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Why Baltimore? That backfield is super crowded already.......Neither of those are permanent conditions, like being untalented.
If this guy winds up in Miami, or SD, or Baltimore? I'm interested.
Why Baltimore? That backfield is super crowded already.......Neither of those are permanent conditions, like being untalented.
If this guy winds up in Miami, or SD, or Baltimore? I'm interested.
Washington or Indy make some sense.Neither of those are permanent conditions, like being untalented.
If this guy winds up in Miami, or SD, or Baltimore? I'm interested.
22 man rosters we had to make cut this weekend I kept him. Would still make the same decision - he's too talented IMO.another team may take a shot at him, but the question is if he is worth holding in dynasty.
20ish man roster i'm leaning towards cutting him.
The Buffalo News reports ex-Bills RB Karlos Williams began regaining the weight he had lost early in camp, forcing the team to cut him.
Beat writer Vic Carucci says Williams re-gaining weight "demonstrat(ed) to the Bills he was not serious about football." Adam Schefter reported Williams got as heavy as 261 pounds this offseason, after weighing 230 at the 2015 Combine. "It's a performance-based business," said GM Doug Whaley. "He came in behind." Williams won't be claimed by any NFL team until he gets in shape.
Related: Bills
Source: Vic Carucci on Twitter
Aug 20 - 3:35 PM
yeah, at that age it takes a lot to be 30 lbs overweight.Wow, 261... It's like he ate Eddie Lacy this offseason.
Unlimited Munchies when you're ballin yo!yeah, at that age it takes a lot to be 30 lbs overweight.
They eat a #### ton of calories during training. Like 6-10,000 daily. They need it because of their workouts. When they leave for the offseason some guys can't turn that eating off. That's why you usually see retired players either drop weight quickly (because they were t really wanting to keep that up) or balloon up (because they still eat like they did, but aren't spending hours a day training).yeah, at that age it takes a lot to be 30 lbs overweight.
We'll see if it becomes that drastic, but good call on being so down on him.The hits keep coming. Karlos is suspended 4 games for substance abuse. He might not be long for the league.
Keep in mind that Williams had serious concussion issues last season. I wouldn't be surprised, at some point, to hear suggestions this was the catalyst for the behavioral changes.Defenze said:I don't think it was the weight that got him tossed. Rumor has it the weight was a symptom of increased appetite. Which is indicative of use of (or should I say abuse of ) a certain drug. The Bills know more than there telling IMHO. He's got 4 games to miss no matter who picks him up. And that number could increase if he fails another "random" test.
Reggie Bush, believe it or not.So who is the handcuff to McCoy now?
Gillislee?
We do full IDP.ConnSKINS26 said:Can't imagine dealing a guy with his upside for a random future 4th in dynasty before even seeing what happens in the next couple days. Rosters would have to be small. I mean some people weren't even bailing on Hernandez at that price when he was being cuffed for Christ sakes.
Totally agree. I love playing in leagues with deep benches because of situations like this. Karlos has talent and shown that he can produce when given opportunity. In my leagues with deep benches--I have no problem taking him as one of my last picks as I could easily see him being a difference maker in the fantasy season based on where he gets picked up.massraider said:Well, that was a brief honeymoon.
I'm kind of interested now. I think the BIlls had a crowded backfield, and Karlos messed up in the offseason, but if he winds up in a nice situation, he could actually increase his value.
This is dependent on him pulling his head out of his culo, but the price won't be high.
Karlos Williams goes unclaimed on waiversConnSKINS26 said:Can't imagine dealing a guy with his upside for a random future 4th in dynasty before even seeing what happens in the next couple days. Rosters would have to be small. I mean some people weren't even bailing on Hernandez at that price when he was being cuffed for Christ sakes.
Not surprised by that, he'll need to prove that he can get himself in shape on his own as his first hurdle, I'm sure. Show that he wants it before working out for anybody.
Karlacy WilliamsBojang0301 said:Wow, 261... It's like he ate Eddie Lacy this offseason.
I could be wrong, but his suspension wouldn't kick in until he was on a team, no? Meaning if he's a free agent then those first four games of the NFL season wouldn't count as his punishment should he remain unsigned.He'll probably get signed closer to the end of his suspension. If an RB gets hurt I could see a team taking a gamble on him immediately, but he could probably make more money if he signs after he's back in shape.
I doubt anyone signs him until after week1 so he can be cut at any time wihtout a guarnateed salaryI could be wrong, but his suspension wouldn't kick in until he was on a team, no? Meaning if he's a free agent then those first four games of the NFL season wouldn't count as his punishment should he remain unsigned.
YupI doubt anyone signs him until after week1 so he can be cut at any time wihtout a guarnateed salary
He can serve his suspension as a FA.I could be wrong, but his suspension wouldn't kick in until he was on a team, no? Meaning if he's a free agent then those first four games of the NFL season wouldn't count as his punishment should he remain unsigned.
Suspended free agent RB Karlos Williams visited the Jets.
It's Williams' first-known visit since he cleared waivers on Monday. ESPN New York's termed the visit as "due diligence," and says a deal is not imminent. Suspended and overweight, Williams will be signing at the nadir of his value if he finds a new home this week. His best course of action may be getting his body right and building his extremely slim leverage.
Related: Jets
Source: Rich Cimini on Twitter
Aug 23 - 6:50 PM
Depends on bench size, what's available to replace him. Reports came in that 5 teams are looking into him. At this point I think his career will depend what kind of shape he gets in over the next couple weeks.So hold and see what happens, or just cut him?
To be fair, part of the reason he fell to the 5th round is likely because he played safety for the first 2 years + training camp of his junior season before switching to RB.How big of a problem does a guy have to be to be that talented, but... not get selected until the 5th round, show up at 261, then be unable to stick to a fitness play during camp, get released by his team and pass through waivers unclaimed after a stellar rookie season?
A: a damn big problem. Even Gordon and Blackmon never got released. I cut him in several leagues.
The thing is the weight gain issue happened at FSU. He came into his senior year overweight and lost his job.To be fair, part of the reason he fell to the 5th round is likely because he played safety for the first 2 years + training camp of his junior season before switching to RB.
Let's not forget too that he does carry injury risk. He missed 3 games with a concussion last season.
What makes you think he was trying to be funny? - I'm missing your point here.Thanks?
Next time I want to read someone trying to be funny but failing I will look him up.
This -- I think @Biabreakable was commenting on the RW writer adding his worthless 2 cents and trying to be funny... at least that's how I read it.What makes you think he was trying to be funny? - I'm missing your point here.
ETA: Also Cimini was just reporting Williams visited with the Jets the blurb is Rotoworld's take. Maybe it's the use of "slim" that is throwing you, but what is being said is fairly accurate imo. Right now his value is at it's lowest point and he'd be foolish to sign now before getting in shape.