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Steve McNair Dead (2 Viewers)
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crowe1130
Footballguy
Unknown if this is reliable, but sharing since I saw it:
http://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2009/7/4...n_mcnairs_death
:( 
Guster
Footballguy
That would seem to fit - I would assume that his girlfriend wasn't an intended target, but merely happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
identikit
Footballguy
Some more details:
Female Victim Identified As Sahel Kazemi
Posted by Aaron Wilson on July 4, 2009 10:30 PM
In the wake of former Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair's death from multiple gunshot wounds at a downtown Nashville condominium, police have now confirmed the female victim's identity.
According to the Tennessean, the woman's name is Sahel Kazemi.
She's the 20-year-old woman who was charged two days ago with DUI and refusal to take a Breathalyzer.
CNN has reported that the woman killed was McNair's girlfriend.
Meanwhile, law enforcement officials have stated that McNair was shot multiple times while Kazemi died of a single gunshot wound to the head.
A police spokesman said that the medical examiner will be performing autopsies Sunday.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...s-sahel-kazemi/
Female Victim Identified As Sahel Kazemi
Posted by Aaron Wilson on July 4, 2009 10:30 PM
In the wake of former Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair's death from multiple gunshot wounds at a downtown Nashville condominium, police have now confirmed the female victim's identity.
According to the Tennessean, the woman's name is Sahel Kazemi.
She's the 20-year-old woman who was charged two days ago with DUI and refusal to take a Breathalyzer.
CNN has reported that the woman killed was McNair's girlfriend.
Meanwhile, law enforcement officials have stated that McNair was shot multiple times while Kazemi died of a single gunshot wound to the head.
A police spokesman said that the medical examiner will be performing autopsies Sunday.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...s-sahel-kazemi/
Mark Wimer
Moderator
Horrible news. Thoughts and prayers to the McNair family, and the Kazemi family. Both so young.
Whatever was going on, however it plays out in the media, I'll always remember McNair as a fine NFL QB and an admirable player while in the league.
RIP
Whatever was going on, however it plays out in the media, I'll always remember McNair as a fine NFL QB and an admirable player while in the league.
RIP
don aaron speaks to media
http://www.tennessean.com/section/videonet...eoid=1172251658
volume very low for me
http://www.tennessean.com/section/videonet...eoid=1172251658
volume very low for me
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meh photos of crime scene
last one shows where apartment was if you're curious
http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/galler...0805&Ref=PH
last one shows where apartment was if you're curious
http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/galler...0805&Ref=PH
10 p.n. Tennessean updated story
McNair, the hometown hero who did extensive charity work in Nashville, died of several gunshots and was found on the sofa, police said. Sahel Kazemi, 20, was found alongside him in a Second Avenue condo he rented. She had a single gunshot wound to her head; a pistol was found near her body.
Metro police spokesman Don Aaron said they were leaning toward certain scenarios based on the evidence, but they hadn’t ruled anything out. Still, they were not actively looking for suspects Saturday night.
“The medical examiner will be conducting autopsies (Sunday),” Aaron said. “We expect to make additional conclusions after the autopsy process.”
Though much of the attention was on the Second Avenue crime scene, police also swarmed at the Cherry Creek apartment complex in Hermitage. They were questioning neighbors who said they often saw McNair visiting Kazemi. Sometimes, neighbors said, she would arrive home in a limousine in the early morning hours. She showed up with a new black car she said was a gift from her boyfriend.
She was arrested in that car, a black Cadillac Escalade registered to she and McNair, just two days before the deaths. She was charged with driving under the influence and refusing to take a breath test.
Keith Norfleet, Kazemi’s boyfriend for four years before they broke up five months ago, said he came to pick up the car for Kazemi.
Norfleet said McNair was in the car with her when the stop occurred, a fact that was not in the police affadavit but was confirmed by police Saturday night. McNair later bailed Kazemi out, according to bail bondsmen.
Norfleet said she told him she was seeing McNair, who she met while working as a waitress at Dave & Busters. He was worried about her dating a married man and hopeful they’d get back together. They had been living together for four years, since they moved from her family’s home in Jacksonville, Fla., to Nashville.
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“She is the sweetest girl, and she did not deserve this,” Norfleet said upon learning of her death. “He was making her believe they were going to be together, and everything would be perfect.”
Though they were broken up, Norfleet said they’d been speaking a lot recently and she planned to break it off with McNair. He said she banged on her door early Saturday morning, but he didn’t get there fast enough.
“She was a very strong, independent girl. A hard worker,” Norfleet said. “I mean, she had a huge heart. She was very caring, very loving.”
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UPDATED: 9:10 P.M.
Police have confirmed the female victim is Sahel Kazemi, 20.
Police have confirmed that Steve McNair suffered several gunshots, and Kazemi died of one gunshot to the head.
"The medical examiner will be conducting autopsies tomorrow," Metro police spokesman Don Aaron said. "We expect to make additional conclusions after the autopsy process."
A car registered to Steve McNair and 20-year-old Kazemi was stopped two days ago on Broadway.
The driver and co-owner, Sahel Kazemi, was charged with driving under the influence and refusing to take a breath test. The car was a 2007 black Cadillac Escalade.
Earlier today, a black Escalade was towed from the condominium complex on Second Avenue where McNair and a female who has not yet been identified by police were found dead this afternoon.
It is not clear whether this is the same vehicle involved in the DUI arrest.
Steve McNair is married to Mechelle McNair.
UPDATED: 9:05 P.M.
Police have confirmed that Steve McNair suffered several gunshots, and the woman with him died of one gunshot to the head.
"The medical examiner will be conducting autopsies tomorrow," Metro police spokesman Don Aaron said. "We expect to make additional conclusions after the autopsy process."
A press conference is scheduled for 9:30 p.m.
UPDATED: 7:30 P.M.
The bodies of Steve McNair and an unidentified young woman were found today by a longtime friend of McNair’s.
Wayne Neely, who also rents a condominium with McNair, arrived to find the bodies inside the condo on Lea Avenue off Second Avenue South, said Metro police spokesman Don Aaron.
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The building at 105 Lea Avenue is registered to Charles Cardwell.
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McNair appears to have suffered multiple gunshot wounds, Aaron said.
Neely and another man, Robert Gaddy, were interviewed by police and released, Aaron said.
UPDATED: 6:20 P.M.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron has confirmed that the victim in the double killing was not McNair's wife. The woman killed still has not been named.
Crime scene investigators are meticulously processing the scene, Aaron said.
"Once that processing is done I'll come out with further updates," Aaron said.
A Cadillac Escalade and a Lincoln Navigator were towed away from the scene.
UPDATED 5:57 PM
Statement From Governor Phil Bredesen On The Death of Steve McNair:
"Andrea and I were very saddened by the news of Steve McNair's death. He has always felt like part of the Nashville family, and he will be sorely missed."
REPORTED EARLIER
Former Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair and an unidentified woman were found shot to death today in downtown Nashville.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron confirmed that McNair and the woman were found at a condominium complex at Second Avenue South and Lea Street. He did not say when the shooting occurred or provide any other details.
McNair, a quarterback with the Oilers/Titans from 1995-2005, led the team to its only Super Bowl appearance in 2000. He also shared the league's MVP award with Peyton Manning in 2003.
"We are saddened and shocked to hear the news of Steve McNair's passing today," Titans owner Bud Adams said today in a statement. "He was one of the finest players to play for our organization and one of the most beloved players by our fans. He played with unquestioned heart and leadership and led us to places that we had never reached, including our only Super Bowl. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family as they deal with his untimely passing."
He is second on the franchise career list for pass attempts (3,871), completions (2,305), yards (27,141) and third in touchdowns (156).
As news spread, dozens of shocked fans began to gather, expressing shock and disbelief.
One unidentified woman said, "First Michael Jackson and now this."
Chad Daniels, who lives near the Second Avenue South condominium where the shooting took place, stopped by to bring flowers and share his grief.
"I think all of Nashville is pretty heartbroken over this," he said, near tears. "He built the franchise. He built the Titans organization."
Shaheed Rahman, who said he was McNair's friend and sometimes driver, spoke to McNair two weeks ago, just before the opening of his new restaurant. He said the former quarterback was in good spirits and loved being in Nashville.
"We're just trying to put the pieces together to find out what happened. To those of us who knew him, this is not a joyous moment. We don't want to remember McNair. We want him to still be here."
Check back at Tennessean.com for more updates.
“She is the sweetest girl, and she did not deserve this,” Norfleet said upon learning of her death. “He was making her believe they were going to be together, and everything would be perfect.”
Though they were broken up, Norfleet said they’d been speaking a lot recently and she planned to break it off with McNair. He said she banged on her door early Saturday morning, but he didn’t get there fast enough.
“She was a very strong, independent girl. A hard worker,” Norfleet said. “I mean, she had a huge heart. She was very caring, very loving.”
UPDATED: 9:10 P.M.
Police have confirmed the female victim is Sahel Kazemi, 20.
Police have confirmed that Steve McNair suffered several gunshots, and Kazemi died of one gunshot to the head.
"The medical examiner will be conducting autopsies tomorrow," Metro police spokesman Don Aaron said. "We expect to make additional conclusions after the autopsy process."
A car registered to Steve McNair and 20-year-old Kazemi was stopped two days ago on Broadway.
The driver and co-owner, Sahel Kazemi, was charged with driving under the influence and refusing to take a breath test. The car was a 2007 black Cadillac Escalade.
Earlier today, a black Escalade was towed from the condominium complex on Second Avenue where McNair and a female who has not yet been identified by police were found dead this afternoon.
It is not clear whether this is the same vehicle involved in the DUI arrest.
Steve McNair is married to Mechelle McNair.
UPDATED: 9:05 P.M.
Police have confirmed that Steve McNair suffered several gunshots, and the woman with him died of one gunshot to the head.
"The medical examiner will be conducting autopsies tomorrow," Metro police spokesman Don Aaron said. "We expect to make additional conclusions after the autopsy process."
A press conference is scheduled for 9:30 p.m.
UPDATED: 7:30 P.M.
The bodies of Steve McNair and an unidentified young woman were found today by a longtime friend of McNair’s.
Wayne Neely, who also rents a condominium with McNair, arrived to find the bodies inside the condo on Lea Avenue off Second Avenue South, said Metro police spokesman Don Aaron.
(3 of 3)
The building at 105 Lea Avenue is registered to Charles Cardwell.
Advertisement
McNair appears to have suffered multiple gunshot wounds, Aaron said.
Neely and another man, Robert Gaddy, were interviewed by police and released, Aaron said.
UPDATED: 6:20 P.M.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron has confirmed that the victim in the double killing was not McNair's wife. The woman killed still has not been named.
Crime scene investigators are meticulously processing the scene, Aaron said.
"Once that processing is done I'll come out with further updates," Aaron said.
A Cadillac Escalade and a Lincoln Navigator were towed away from the scene.
UPDATED 5:57 PM
Statement From Governor Phil Bredesen On The Death of Steve McNair:
"Andrea and I were very saddened by the news of Steve McNair's death. He has always felt like part of the Nashville family, and he will be sorely missed."
REPORTED EARLIER
Former Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair and an unidentified woman were found shot to death today in downtown Nashville.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron confirmed that McNair and the woman were found at a condominium complex at Second Avenue South and Lea Street. He did not say when the shooting occurred or provide any other details.
McNair, a quarterback with the Oilers/Titans from 1995-2005, led the team to its only Super Bowl appearance in 2000. He also shared the league's MVP award with Peyton Manning in 2003.
"We are saddened and shocked to hear the news of Steve McNair's passing today," Titans owner Bud Adams said today in a statement. "He was one of the finest players to play for our organization and one of the most beloved players by our fans. He played with unquestioned heart and leadership and led us to places that we had never reached, including our only Super Bowl. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family as they deal with his untimely passing."
He is second on the franchise career list for pass attempts (3,871), completions (2,305), yards (27,141) and third in touchdowns (156).
McNair appears to have suffered multiple gunshot wounds, Aaron said.
Neely and another man, Robert Gaddy, were interviewed by police and released, Aaron said.
UPDATED: 6:20 P.M.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron has confirmed that the victim in the double killing was not McNair's wife. The woman killed still has not been named.
Crime scene investigators are meticulously processing the scene, Aaron said.
"Once that processing is done I'll come out with further updates," Aaron said.
A Cadillac Escalade and a Lincoln Navigator were towed away from the scene.
UPDATED 5:57 PM
Statement From Governor Phil Bredesen On The Death of Steve McNair:
"Andrea and I were very saddened by the news of Steve McNair's death. He has always felt like part of the Nashville family, and he will be sorely missed."
REPORTED EARLIER
Former Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair and an unidentified woman were found shot to death today in downtown Nashville.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron confirmed that McNair and the woman were found at a condominium complex at Second Avenue South and Lea Street. He did not say when the shooting occurred or provide any other details.
As news spread, dozens of shocked fans began to gather, expressing shock and disbelief.
One unidentified woman said, "First Michael Jackson and now this."
Chad Daniels, who lives near the Second Avenue South condominium where the shooting took place, stopped by to bring flowers and share his grief.
"I think all of Nashville is pretty heartbroken over this," he said, near tears. "He built the franchise. He built the Titans organization."
Shaheed Rahman, who said he was McNair's friend and sometimes driver, spoke to McNair two weeks ago, just before the opening of his new restaurant. He said the former quarterback was in good spirits and loved being in Nashville.
"We're just trying to put the pieces together to find out what happened. To those of us who knew him, this is not a joyous moment. We don't want to remember McNair. We want him to still be here."
Check back at Tennessean.com for more updates.
McNair, the hometown hero who did extensive charity work in Nashville, died of several gunshots and was found on the sofa, police said. Sahel Kazemi, 20, was found alongside him in a Second Avenue condo he rented. She had a single gunshot wound to her head; a pistol was found near her body.
Metro police spokesman Don Aaron said they were leaning toward certain scenarios based on the evidence, but they hadn’t ruled anything out. Still, they were not actively looking for suspects Saturday night.
“The medical examiner will be conducting autopsies (Sunday),” Aaron said. “We expect to make additional conclusions after the autopsy process.”
Though much of the attention was on the Second Avenue crime scene, police also swarmed at the Cherry Creek apartment complex in Hermitage. They were questioning neighbors who said they often saw McNair visiting Kazemi. Sometimes, neighbors said, she would arrive home in a limousine in the early morning hours. She showed up with a new black car she said was a gift from her boyfriend.
She was arrested in that car, a black Cadillac Escalade registered to she and McNair, just two days before the deaths. She was charged with driving under the influence and refusing to take a breath test.
Keith Norfleet, Kazemi’s boyfriend for four years before they broke up five months ago, said he came to pick up the car for Kazemi.
Norfleet said McNair was in the car with her when the stop occurred, a fact that was not in the police affadavit but was confirmed by police Saturday night. McNair later bailed Kazemi out, according to bail bondsmen.
Norfleet said she told him she was seeing McNair, who she met while working as a waitress at Dave & Busters. He was worried about her dating a married man and hopeful they’d get back together. They had been living together for four years, since they moved from her family’s home in Jacksonville, Fla., to Nashville.
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“She is the sweetest girl, and she did not deserve this,” Norfleet said upon learning of her death. “He was making her believe they were going to be together, and everything would be perfect.”
Though they were broken up, Norfleet said they’d been speaking a lot recently and she planned to break it off with McNair. He said she banged on her door early Saturday morning, but he didn’t get there fast enough.
“She was a very strong, independent girl. A hard worker,” Norfleet said. “I mean, she had a huge heart. She was very caring, very loving.”
Advertisement
UPDATED: 9:10 P.M.
Police have confirmed the female victim is Sahel Kazemi, 20.
Police have confirmed that Steve McNair suffered several gunshots, and Kazemi died of one gunshot to the head.
"The medical examiner will be conducting autopsies tomorrow," Metro police spokesman Don Aaron said. "We expect to make additional conclusions after the autopsy process."
A car registered to Steve McNair and 20-year-old Kazemi was stopped two days ago on Broadway.
The driver and co-owner, Sahel Kazemi, was charged with driving under the influence and refusing to take a breath test. The car was a 2007 black Cadillac Escalade.
Earlier today, a black Escalade was towed from the condominium complex on Second Avenue where McNair and a female who has not yet been identified by police were found dead this afternoon.
It is not clear whether this is the same vehicle involved in the DUI arrest.
Steve McNair is married to Mechelle McNair.
UPDATED: 9:05 P.M.
Police have confirmed that Steve McNair suffered several gunshots, and the woman with him died of one gunshot to the head.
"The medical examiner will be conducting autopsies tomorrow," Metro police spokesman Don Aaron said. "We expect to make additional conclusions after the autopsy process."
A press conference is scheduled for 9:30 p.m.
UPDATED: 7:30 P.M.
The bodies of Steve McNair and an unidentified young woman were found today by a longtime friend of McNair’s.
Wayne Neely, who also rents a condominium with McNair, arrived to find the bodies inside the condo on Lea Avenue off Second Avenue South, said Metro police spokesman Don Aaron.
(3 of 3)
The building at 105 Lea Avenue is registered to Charles Cardwell.
Advertisement
McNair appears to have suffered multiple gunshot wounds, Aaron said.
Neely and another man, Robert Gaddy, were interviewed by police and released, Aaron said.
UPDATED: 6:20 P.M.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron has confirmed that the victim in the double killing was not McNair's wife. The woman killed still has not been named.
Crime scene investigators are meticulously processing the scene, Aaron said.
"Once that processing is done I'll come out with further updates," Aaron said.
A Cadillac Escalade and a Lincoln Navigator were towed away from the scene.
UPDATED 5:57 PM
Statement From Governor Phil Bredesen On The Death of Steve McNair:
"Andrea and I were very saddened by the news of Steve McNair's death. He has always felt like part of the Nashville family, and he will be sorely missed."
REPORTED EARLIER
Former Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair and an unidentified woman were found shot to death today in downtown Nashville.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron confirmed that McNair and the woman were found at a condominium complex at Second Avenue South and Lea Street. He did not say when the shooting occurred or provide any other details.
McNair, a quarterback with the Oilers/Titans from 1995-2005, led the team to its only Super Bowl appearance in 2000. He also shared the league's MVP award with Peyton Manning in 2003.
"We are saddened and shocked to hear the news of Steve McNair's passing today," Titans owner Bud Adams said today in a statement. "He was one of the finest players to play for our organization and one of the most beloved players by our fans. He played with unquestioned heart and leadership and led us to places that we had never reached, including our only Super Bowl. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family as they deal with his untimely passing."
He is second on the franchise career list for pass attempts (3,871), completions (2,305), yards (27,141) and third in touchdowns (156).
As news spread, dozens of shocked fans began to gather, expressing shock and disbelief.
One unidentified woman said, "First Michael Jackson and now this."
Chad Daniels, who lives near the Second Avenue South condominium where the shooting took place, stopped by to bring flowers and share his grief.
"I think all of Nashville is pretty heartbroken over this," he said, near tears. "He built the franchise. He built the Titans organization."
Shaheed Rahman, who said he was McNair's friend and sometimes driver, spoke to McNair two weeks ago, just before the opening of his new restaurant. He said the former quarterback was in good spirits and loved being in Nashville.
"We're just trying to put the pieces together to find out what happened. To those of us who knew him, this is not a joyous moment. We don't want to remember McNair. We want him to still be here."
Check back at Tennessean.com for more updates.
“She is the sweetest girl, and she did not deserve this,” Norfleet said upon learning of her death. “He was making her believe they were going to be together, and everything would be perfect.”
Though they were broken up, Norfleet said they’d been speaking a lot recently and she planned to break it off with McNair. He said she banged on her door early Saturday morning, but he didn’t get there fast enough.
“She was a very strong, independent girl. A hard worker,” Norfleet said. “I mean, she had a huge heart. She was very caring, very loving.”
UPDATED: 9:10 P.M.
Police have confirmed the female victim is Sahel Kazemi, 20.
Police have confirmed that Steve McNair suffered several gunshots, and Kazemi died of one gunshot to the head.
"The medical examiner will be conducting autopsies tomorrow," Metro police spokesman Don Aaron said. "We expect to make additional conclusions after the autopsy process."
A car registered to Steve McNair and 20-year-old Kazemi was stopped two days ago on Broadway.
The driver and co-owner, Sahel Kazemi, was charged with driving under the influence and refusing to take a breath test. The car was a 2007 black Cadillac Escalade.
Earlier today, a black Escalade was towed from the condominium complex on Second Avenue where McNair and a female who has not yet been identified by police were found dead this afternoon.
It is not clear whether this is the same vehicle involved in the DUI arrest.
Steve McNair is married to Mechelle McNair.
UPDATED: 9:05 P.M.
Police have confirmed that Steve McNair suffered several gunshots, and the woman with him died of one gunshot to the head.
"The medical examiner will be conducting autopsies tomorrow," Metro police spokesman Don Aaron said. "We expect to make additional conclusions after the autopsy process."
A press conference is scheduled for 9:30 p.m.
UPDATED: 7:30 P.M.
The bodies of Steve McNair and an unidentified young woman were found today by a longtime friend of McNair’s.
Wayne Neely, who also rents a condominium with McNair, arrived to find the bodies inside the condo on Lea Avenue off Second Avenue South, said Metro police spokesman Don Aaron.
(3 of 3)
The building at 105 Lea Avenue is registered to Charles Cardwell.
Advertisement
McNair appears to have suffered multiple gunshot wounds, Aaron said.
Neely and another man, Robert Gaddy, were interviewed by police and released, Aaron said.
UPDATED: 6:20 P.M.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron has confirmed that the victim in the double killing was not McNair's wife. The woman killed still has not been named.
Crime scene investigators are meticulously processing the scene, Aaron said.
"Once that processing is done I'll come out with further updates," Aaron said.
A Cadillac Escalade and a Lincoln Navigator were towed away from the scene.
UPDATED 5:57 PM
Statement From Governor Phil Bredesen On The Death of Steve McNair:
"Andrea and I were very saddened by the news of Steve McNair's death. He has always felt like part of the Nashville family, and he will be sorely missed."
REPORTED EARLIER
Former Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair and an unidentified woman were found shot to death today in downtown Nashville.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron confirmed that McNair and the woman were found at a condominium complex at Second Avenue South and Lea Street. He did not say when the shooting occurred or provide any other details.
McNair, a quarterback with the Oilers/Titans from 1995-2005, led the team to its only Super Bowl appearance in 2000. He also shared the league's MVP award with Peyton Manning in 2003.
"We are saddened and shocked to hear the news of Steve McNair's passing today," Titans owner Bud Adams said today in a statement. "He was one of the finest players to play for our organization and one of the most beloved players by our fans. He played with unquestioned heart and leadership and led us to places that we had never reached, including our only Super Bowl. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family as they deal with his untimely passing."
He is second on the franchise career list for pass attempts (3,871), completions (2,305), yards (27,141) and third in touchdowns (156).
McNair appears to have suffered multiple gunshot wounds, Aaron said.
Neely and another man, Robert Gaddy, were interviewed by police and released, Aaron said.
UPDATED: 6:20 P.M.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron has confirmed that the victim in the double killing was not McNair's wife. The woman killed still has not been named.
Crime scene investigators are meticulously processing the scene, Aaron said.
"Once that processing is done I'll come out with further updates," Aaron said.
A Cadillac Escalade and a Lincoln Navigator were towed away from the scene.
UPDATED 5:57 PM
Statement From Governor Phil Bredesen On The Death of Steve McNair:
"Andrea and I were very saddened by the news of Steve McNair's death. He has always felt like part of the Nashville family, and he will be sorely missed."
REPORTED EARLIER
Former Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair and an unidentified woman were found shot to death today in downtown Nashville.
Metro Police spokesman Don Aaron confirmed that McNair and the woman were found at a condominium complex at Second Avenue South and Lea Street. He did not say when the shooting occurred or provide any other details.
As news spread, dozens of shocked fans began to gather, expressing shock and disbelief.
One unidentified woman said, "First Michael Jackson and now this."
Chad Daniels, who lives near the Second Avenue South condominium where the shooting took place, stopped by to bring flowers and share his grief.
"I think all of Nashville is pretty heartbroken over this," he said, near tears. "He built the franchise. He built the Titans organization."
Shaheed Rahman, who said he was McNair's friend and sometimes driver, spoke to McNair two weeks ago, just before the opening of his new restaurant. He said the former quarterback was in good spirits and loved being in Nashville.
"We're just trying to put the pieces together to find out what happened. To those of us who knew him, this is not a joyous moment. We don't want to remember McNair. We want him to still be here."
Check back at Tennessean.com for more updates.
well if you don't care......
HellToupee
Footballguy
he co-owned the car with his girlfriend/killer & co-owned the condo with another guy. So the condo was their pad
co-owner who found the two doesn't immediately call police when he finds the bodies is a little out of the ordinary
co-owner who found the two doesn't immediately call police when he finds the bodies is a little out of the ordinary
HellToupee
Footballguy
sorry man I thought it might actually work best in a multiple page thread. Read from the last point you "checked in on the story" and skip the rest.
Jeff Tefertiller
Footballguy
As the details come out, I would like to ask/remind everyone to be considerate that there is loss of life. There may be some issues involved that may or may not be items we want to remember McNair for, but let's try to be cool about things. The man was an icon for many in many ways.
Sister Havana
Footballguy
How sad. Condolences to the McNair and Kazemi families.
Matt Waldman
Footballguy
I just finished having a nice 4th of July evening with my fiancee and I checked FBGs for the news.
Steve McNair was the biggest reason I became a Titans fan and he and Earnest Byner were my favorite two players, but I only own one football jersey and it's McNair's. I'm so shocked and sadden. I've never felt this way about a celebrity's passing and I never thought I would feel this way. I'm watching ESPN right now and just want to cry, but can't do it. He epitomized what it meant to be a man and a warrior on the football field. He was the closest thing to an athletic hero I ever had because it wasn't about how many championships or MVPs a player won, but how hard a player competed. When it came to competing he let very little get in the way of him making it tough on teams that on paper overmatched him. He was the ultimate professional by the way he played, not the stats or wins. He played the way a character like Hector fought. He may have not been the best, but he gave the best everything they could handle. McNair and Byner were similar players and it is way I loved watching them. It's competitors like them that inspire me in life to do my best when I have moments where I don't want to.
When he was a young player, he was as dynamic a runner/passer as there was in the league and he matured into one of the more dangerous, complete QBs in football history. If he had a wide receiver other than Derrick Mason, he could have been amazing statistically. I have several memories as a fan:
When he was still in Houston and brought off the bench in the second half of a game as a rookie, replacing Chris Chandler, and rolling right to unfurl a bomb to Chris Sanders for a score. If you watched his highlights at Alcorn St., you'd see his propensity to throw lasers on the move unlike most QBs I ever saw. The injuries took a toll on his arm strength, because his ankles and legs lacked the flexibility he once had to rifle the ball across his body.
I remember watching him playing with a back injury so bad that they had to wheel him off a plane on something they used in the movie Silence of the Lambs to wheel Hannibal Lecter. It was against Oakland and he played with the kind of ferocity and poise that helped Tennessee win the game.
There was McNair in a grind it out game that same season against the Giants and a Michael Strahan in his prime. The QB had his typical game where he'd get put on his back, get up, and then kill the defense with timely third down conversions to drive them down the field despite him taking a beating all the way. I saw it repeatedly versus teams like Pittsburgh and Jacksonville.
One of the greatest games in his career or for a QB in playoff history was McNair's 5-score game to whip the favorite, Jaguars in the AFC Championship when the Jags were the home team. He was masterful in that game.
Talk about QBs who threw his body around...there was a MNF game where he beat NE in their house. He had a great run for a score where he lowered his shoulder into Rodney Harrison and (I think it was Ty Law) a second DB, knocking them to the ground and splitting them for the TD. He also had three great passes where McCareins dropped at least two of them in the end zone. He could do it all.
I remember him in Denver in a preseason game, rolling left with a defender hanging off him and completing a perfect pass on the run to convert a third down play about 15 yards downfield. It was these little things from about 1999-2003 that made him an amazing QB, especially when his injuries didn't rob him of his physical skills just yet.
I could go on an on about the SB, the clashes against the Ravens, and even his first year in Baltimore and that Chargers game where he brought them back and flashed the McNair of old.
I just wish I had some highlights of him to watch right now. There aren't many truly good ones of his prime years on YouTube.
I don't want to speculate about the circumstances of his death. Every man is flawed. I was just reading about Brett Favre throwing to one of McNair's sons while working out at the local high school. His four kids, his wife, and his friends, family, fans, and former teammates are all in my thoughts. Again, I'm shocked, saddened, and sickened by the news.
Steve McNair was the biggest reason I became a Titans fan and he and Earnest Byner were my favorite two players, but I only own one football jersey and it's McNair's. I'm so shocked and sadden. I've never felt this way about a celebrity's passing and I never thought I would feel this way. I'm watching ESPN right now and just want to cry, but can't do it. He epitomized what it meant to be a man and a warrior on the football field. He was the closest thing to an athletic hero I ever had because it wasn't about how many championships or MVPs a player won, but how hard a player competed. When it came to competing he let very little get in the way of him making it tough on teams that on paper overmatched him. He was the ultimate professional by the way he played, not the stats or wins. He played the way a character like Hector fought. He may have not been the best, but he gave the best everything they could handle. McNair and Byner were similar players and it is way I loved watching them. It's competitors like them that inspire me in life to do my best when I have moments where I don't want to.
When he was a young player, he was as dynamic a runner/passer as there was in the league and he matured into one of the more dangerous, complete QBs in football history. If he had a wide receiver other than Derrick Mason, he could have been amazing statistically. I have several memories as a fan:
When he was still in Houston and brought off the bench in the second half of a game as a rookie, replacing Chris Chandler, and rolling right to unfurl a bomb to Chris Sanders for a score. If you watched his highlights at Alcorn St., you'd see his propensity to throw lasers on the move unlike most QBs I ever saw. The injuries took a toll on his arm strength, because his ankles and legs lacked the flexibility he once had to rifle the ball across his body.
I remember watching him playing with a back injury so bad that they had to wheel him off a plane on something they used in the movie Silence of the Lambs to wheel Hannibal Lecter. It was against Oakland and he played with the kind of ferocity and poise that helped Tennessee win the game.
There was McNair in a grind it out game that same season against the Giants and a Michael Strahan in his prime. The QB had his typical game where he'd get put on his back, get up, and then kill the defense with timely third down conversions to drive them down the field despite him taking a beating all the way. I saw it repeatedly versus teams like Pittsburgh and Jacksonville.
One of the greatest games in his career or for a QB in playoff history was McNair's 5-score game to whip the favorite, Jaguars in the AFC Championship when the Jags were the home team. He was masterful in that game.
Talk about QBs who threw his body around...there was a MNF game where he beat NE in their house. He had a great run for a score where he lowered his shoulder into Rodney Harrison and (I think it was Ty Law) a second DB, knocking them to the ground and splitting them for the TD. He also had three great passes where McCareins dropped at least two of them in the end zone. He could do it all.
I remember him in Denver in a preseason game, rolling left with a defender hanging off him and completing a perfect pass on the run to convert a third down play about 15 yards downfield. It was these little things from about 1999-2003 that made him an amazing QB, especially when his injuries didn't rob him of his physical skills just yet.
I could go on an on about the SB, the clashes against the Ravens, and even his first year in Baltimore and that Chargers game where he brought them back and flashed the McNair of old.
I just wish I had some highlights of him to watch right now. There aren't many truly good ones of his prime years on YouTube.
I don't want to speculate about the circumstances of his death. Every man is flawed. I was just reading about Brett Favre throwing to one of McNair's sons while working out at the local high school. His four kids, his wife, and his friends, family, fans, and former teammates are all in my thoughts. Again, I'm shocked, saddened, and sickened by the news.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Horrible news, and certainly impactful personally b/c he's my contemporary.
While it certainly appears that the circumstances surrounding his death are tragic, and strongly indicate Steve was a flawed man; I would hope that people can separate the way they may feel about his alleged infidelity from the notion that he didn't deserve this fate.
While it certainly appears that the circumstances surrounding his death are tragic, and strongly indicate Steve was a flawed man; I would hope that people can separate the way they may feel about his alleged infidelity from the notion that he didn't deserve this fate.
Matt Waldman
Footballguy
Link
From Mike Freeman at CBS Sportsline.
The last time I spoke with Steve McNair was approximately three months ago. It was a brief conversation. His help was needed for an upcoming project and, as was his penchant, he was ready to oblige.
We set up a time to talk later this summer. Never thought it would be the last time we would ever speak.
Steve McNair came out of Alcorn State in 1995 and became a pioneer in the NFL. (Getty Images) There were no hints that anything was different from the previous two dozen or more instances we spoke over a 10-year period. I'm not saying I knew McNair well, but I knew him well enough. In that last conversation he asked how my wife was doing, what was new in my life, how the job was going. McNair was always interested in you. It was his nature.
He ended the conversation: Talk to you this summer.
That was it. That was all.
And now he's gone.
You will always hear people speak about the dead in eloquent terms. Sometimes those nice words are forced, sometimes they aren't. With McNair, trust me on this, they are not.
This isn't to say all corners of his life were unblemished. McNair nevertheless was one of the great class acts in the sport.
McNair's personality was like his game on the field: rugged, unpolished and gritty. And, maybe more than anything else, understated. Beneath the strong Southern accent was a certain stoic eloquence and humbleness. He was just as smart as you were, but, unlike other athletes, never felt the need to jab you in the chest and let you know for sure.
We got to know each other when I worked for the New York Times and McNair was a Tennessee Titan. I saw him at Titans camps, we spoke on the phone once a month or so, about anything and everything. Others in the media knew McNair better, but I got to know him pretty well.
After Super Bowl XXXIV, when the Titans came inches from tying the score with no time on the clock, McNair told a small group of us "this close. This doggone close." He held his hands a short space apart. Whenever I would see him after that, I would repeat his gesture and he would play along.
Not many of our conversations passed without McNair defending the level of play at the Historically Black Colleges. He defended Alcorn State constantly and derided any notion that black-college football was inferior to any other.
When McNair was asked to leave the Titans' facility in 2006 over a contract dispute, there were private moments of anger but he never publicly lashed out. Because, above all, for the most part, McNair was classy.
He was also one of the toughest players I've ever seen in two decades of covering the sport. He took brutal shot after brutal shot and simply got back up. There was no whining. I used to joke with McNair that Jim Brown had been reincarnated as him.
It was that toughness which teammates admired most about McNair. A Tennessee offensive lineman once told me that McNair and Eddie George were the only players they considered one of them. If you ranked the greatest pure athletes in NFL history, McNair might make the top 10. If you ranked the toughest, he would definitely make the top 10.
I don't know what happened. I don't know why he's gone. That information will come later and be diced and sliced. Some of the information might make those of us who knew and admired him uncomfortable, or even sad.
But for now -- for right now -- I'll remember the man who always greeted me with a smile and a handshake. The man who always asked me about me -- and meant it.
In that last conversation, we chatted a little about the historic nature of the election of President Obama. As with many African-Americans, he felt it was a life-altering moment.
Few historical moments will reach that of Obama's, but it was McNair who allowed people like Daunte Culpepper, Donovan McNabb and other black quarterbacks to enter the NFL and not face as many closed doors.
McNair always appreciated and knew that, but in typical McNair form he rarely felt the need to constantly point it out.
That was him.
Typical Steve.
From Mike Freeman at CBS Sportsline.
The last time I spoke with Steve McNair was approximately three months ago. It was a brief conversation. His help was needed for an upcoming project and, as was his penchant, he was ready to oblige.
We set up a time to talk later this summer. Never thought it would be the last time we would ever speak.
Steve McNair came out of Alcorn State in 1995 and became a pioneer in the NFL. (Getty Images) There were no hints that anything was different from the previous two dozen or more instances we spoke over a 10-year period. I'm not saying I knew McNair well, but I knew him well enough. In that last conversation he asked how my wife was doing, what was new in my life, how the job was going. McNair was always interested in you. It was his nature.
He ended the conversation: Talk to you this summer.
That was it. That was all.
And now he's gone.
You will always hear people speak about the dead in eloquent terms. Sometimes those nice words are forced, sometimes they aren't. With McNair, trust me on this, they are not.
This isn't to say all corners of his life were unblemished. McNair nevertheless was one of the great class acts in the sport.
McNair's personality was like his game on the field: rugged, unpolished and gritty. And, maybe more than anything else, understated. Beneath the strong Southern accent was a certain stoic eloquence and humbleness. He was just as smart as you were, but, unlike other athletes, never felt the need to jab you in the chest and let you know for sure.
We got to know each other when I worked for the New York Times and McNair was a Tennessee Titan. I saw him at Titans camps, we spoke on the phone once a month or so, about anything and everything. Others in the media knew McNair better, but I got to know him pretty well.
After Super Bowl XXXIV, when the Titans came inches from tying the score with no time on the clock, McNair told a small group of us "this close. This doggone close." He held his hands a short space apart. Whenever I would see him after that, I would repeat his gesture and he would play along.
Not many of our conversations passed without McNair defending the level of play at the Historically Black Colleges. He defended Alcorn State constantly and derided any notion that black-college football was inferior to any other.
When McNair was asked to leave the Titans' facility in 2006 over a contract dispute, there were private moments of anger but he never publicly lashed out. Because, above all, for the most part, McNair was classy.
He was also one of the toughest players I've ever seen in two decades of covering the sport. He took brutal shot after brutal shot and simply got back up. There was no whining. I used to joke with McNair that Jim Brown had been reincarnated as him.
It was that toughness which teammates admired most about McNair. A Tennessee offensive lineman once told me that McNair and Eddie George were the only players they considered one of them. If you ranked the greatest pure athletes in NFL history, McNair might make the top 10. If you ranked the toughest, he would definitely make the top 10.
I don't know what happened. I don't know why he's gone. That information will come later and be diced and sliced. Some of the information might make those of us who knew and admired him uncomfortable, or even sad.
But for now -- for right now -- I'll remember the man who always greeted me with a smile and a handshake. The man who always asked me about me -- and meant it.
In that last conversation, we chatted a little about the historic nature of the election of President Obama. As with many African-Americans, he felt it was a life-altering moment.
Few historical moments will reach that of Obama's, but it was McNair who allowed people like Daunte Culpepper, Donovan McNabb and other black quarterbacks to enter the NFL and not face as many closed doors.
McNair always appreciated and knew that, but in typical McNair form he rarely felt the need to constantly point it out.
That was him.
Typical Steve.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
No way. No way. Un-#######-believable.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Picture of G/F Sahel
I am deeply saddened...McNair paved the way for others. ESPN showcased him at Alcorn St. I remember a lot of plays McNair made in the NFL...I'm bummed.
I am deeply saddened...McNair paved the way for others. ESPN showcased him at Alcorn St. I remember a lot of plays McNair made in the NFL...I'm bummed.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
wow
someone wanted steve dead. shot to the temple?
And I know that these guys (altheles) all have girls on the side in a few towns or whatever but he has 4 kids that will now know that he died with some floozy and she might have pulled the trigger
yikes
someone wanted steve dead. shot to the temple?
And I know that these guys (altheles) all have girls on the side in a few towns or whatever but he has 4 kids that will now know that he died with some floozy and she might have pulled the trigger
yikes
David Dodds
Administrator
damn this bums me out so bad. I loved McNair as a player. He was a warrior that would always take the field no matter how banged up. I hope there is more to the story here, but even if not I will always remember McNair as that warrior on the field. To his wife, their children and the two lives lost before their time, our hearts are with you. Very tragic.
ex boyfriend of girl, for four years previously. Still kept in touch
Heep
Footballguy
I'm curious to hear what his wife has to say. I think they have been split up for a while now. Reports are that his wife hadn't talked to him in 3 days or so, and that him and the other victim had an Escalade registered in both their names. So obviously he wasn't trying to keep anything hidden. And you would think McNair wouldn't put her name on a vehicle with him if it wasn't getting lengthy and serious.
This is just a horrible day for the NFL and its fans. Being a Titans fan, I loved watching McNair on and off the field. Hard worker and dedicated whether it was on the field, in an interview, or in the locker room. Steve, I will wear your jersey tomorrow in remembrance. RIP Air McNair
This is just a horrible day for the NFL and its fans. Being a Titans fan, I loved watching McNair on and off the field. Hard worker and dedicated whether it was on the field, in an interview, or in the locker room. Steve, I will wear your jersey tomorrow in remembrance. RIP Air McNair
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Man, just got back from a nice 4th of July evening to see this. Just bums me out. McNair had just about as much heart as anybody I've ever seen play in the NFL. He'll be missed.
RIP Steve
RIP Steve
Her mother was a native of Iran and was murdered when Sahel was 9, she was raised by her sister, so it doesn't look like her parents were around.Still don't get why Wayne Neely who found them called a friend and not 911 after finding them.
that's not so uncommon. People panic and don't know what to do til they're reminded to call 911.
Clash of the Titans
IBL Representative
this is just so surreal..........today makes you think about what's really important in life.........regardless it's gonna be a long sleepless night........ 
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Good work in here tonight, Bri. Thanks for the updates.
This one hit me hard. I've been in a daze for several hours.
This one hit me hard. I've been in a daze for several hours.
HellToupee
Footballguy
maybe because he'd have a lot of explaining to do with his family as to what the condo was used for
HellToupee
Footballguy
some of the statements by Norfleet and his myspaces page are very oddhttp://www.myspace.com/460719734
http://www.myspace.com/postedinthaoch
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identikit
Footballguy
A well-written and even-handed commentary on the life and times of Steve McNair by a Houston journalist:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6513317.html
Commentary: In his football career, McNair was a pro’s pro
By RICHARD JUSTICE Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
There was the time Steve McNair underwent surgery to repair a broken chest bone. Doctors inserted wire to help the bone heal and sent him off to recover.
Under no circumstances was McNair to play football. But then Neil O’Donnell got hurt, and McNair did what he always did. He answered the bell for his teammates and his franchise and his coaches and the people who cared about the Tennessee Titans.
Later, the Pittsburgh Steelers would tell of hitting McNair and hearing him wheeze through the wire, hearing him groan and then watching him get up and run another play. McNair was in unimaginable pain that afternoon, yet he wouldn’t come out of the game.
He led the Titans to a victory, and that was around the time he had talked to Jeff Fisher about quitting football because he was tired of being booed, tired of being the guy who was never quite good enough.
He got huge cheers the following week after fans learned what he had endured to beat the Steelers, and that was pretty much the end of people’s questioning Steve McNair about anything.
He’s gone now, at 36, via a tabloid death. He died of multiple gunshot wounds along with a woman not his wife.
He’s a reminder to us all that we put the wrong people on pedestals, that running fast and jumping high defines one only narrowly.
Being brilliant in the fourth quarter of a close game doesn’t make one a great husband or father.
So as we honor a great athlete who touched hundreds and lived his public life with grace and dignity, we are reminded that men have flaws.
Super Bowl thriller
McNair would be the NFL’s co-MVP that year he beat the Steelers, and he got the Titans within inches of taking a Super Bowl into overtime.
Back when the Oilers were evaluating him before the draft, there were questions about whether a kid who had run the shotgun at Alcorn State could play quarterback in the NFL. Unspoken, of course, was whether a black kid from the Southwestern Athletic Conference was smart enough to be a winning quarterback in the NFL.
Yes, it was a white boy’s position at that time.
The Oilers talked to McNair’s coaches and teammates, and the more they heard about him, the more they were impressed.
A psychiatrist who evaluated him confirmed that everything the Oilers thought they knew about McNair as a leader was absolutely correct.
As for intelligence, the Oilers gave him basic football tests and discovered he was a brilliant, instinctive player.
Back when the Oilers were our team, they brought in Chris Chandler to play quarterback while Jerry Rhome tutored McNair. At some point, center Mark Stepnoski was the first to say what plenty of others were saying privately. He wanted McNair on the field, and he wanted him immediately.
It wasn’t just the ability. Everyone could see McNair had great ability. It was something more than that. It was the way he carried himself, the way he interacted with teammates, the respect he garnered from those around him.
Charitable nature
He was that way with kids and with a lot of people who needed help. He had a charitable heart. If you needed something, he would be there with a smile and a handshake. He was a private person in a public business, accepting of the scrutiny but never seeking it.
Quarterbacks are different. From the earliest age, they’re the ones of whom the most is expected. They’re usually the toughest guys on the field and sometimes the smartest.
The best ones accept the blame when things go bad and deflect the credit when things go well. They’re the leaders in the locker room and the faces of franchises.
They’re some odd combination of labor and management, and there’s no other position in sports like quarterback.
The really good ones, the Steve McNairs and Peyton Mannings and Tom Bradys, play this role effortlessly. They’re the ones who own the room when they walk in. They don’t do it with words, but with a confidence and a presence everyone can sense.
McNair was like that. He was quiet, and he was tough as nails. He cared about his teammates.
He was a farm boy at heart. His teammates lifted weights; McNair baled hay on his farm.
In those first years with the Oilers, he got a call from an Alcorn teammate telling him about a Houston teen who was in trouble, who seemed about to be swallowed up by gangs and drugs.
Would Steve go see the kid, try to convince him he was headed down a bad road?
Vince Young has said McNair was one of the people who saved his life, and they became lifelong friends.
Last fall when Young quit on his team, McNair came back and talked to him again.
Measure of character
I don’t know what happened to McNair. I don’t know the circumstances of his death.
I just know there are layers to all of us, that none of us is perfect, that it’s foolish to paint someone with a single brush.
I also know Steve McNair cared about people and performed brilliantly and courageously on the football field. In the ways we should measure a professional athlete, there were few better than McNair.
I know he touched a lot of people in the right way, and today their hearts are breaking.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6513317.html
Commentary: In his football career, McNair was a pro’s pro
By RICHARD JUSTICE Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
There was the time Steve McNair underwent surgery to repair a broken chest bone. Doctors inserted wire to help the bone heal and sent him off to recover.
Under no circumstances was McNair to play football. But then Neil O’Donnell got hurt, and McNair did what he always did. He answered the bell for his teammates and his franchise and his coaches and the people who cared about the Tennessee Titans.
Later, the Pittsburgh Steelers would tell of hitting McNair and hearing him wheeze through the wire, hearing him groan and then watching him get up and run another play. McNair was in unimaginable pain that afternoon, yet he wouldn’t come out of the game.
He led the Titans to a victory, and that was around the time he had talked to Jeff Fisher about quitting football because he was tired of being booed, tired of being the guy who was never quite good enough.
He got huge cheers the following week after fans learned what he had endured to beat the Steelers, and that was pretty much the end of people’s questioning Steve McNair about anything.
He’s gone now, at 36, via a tabloid death. He died of multiple gunshot wounds along with a woman not his wife.
He’s a reminder to us all that we put the wrong people on pedestals, that running fast and jumping high defines one only narrowly.
Being brilliant in the fourth quarter of a close game doesn’t make one a great husband or father.
So as we honor a great athlete who touched hundreds and lived his public life with grace and dignity, we are reminded that men have flaws.
Super Bowl thriller
McNair would be the NFL’s co-MVP that year he beat the Steelers, and he got the Titans within inches of taking a Super Bowl into overtime.
Back when the Oilers were evaluating him before the draft, there were questions about whether a kid who had run the shotgun at Alcorn State could play quarterback in the NFL. Unspoken, of course, was whether a black kid from the Southwestern Athletic Conference was smart enough to be a winning quarterback in the NFL.
Yes, it was a white boy’s position at that time.
The Oilers talked to McNair’s coaches and teammates, and the more they heard about him, the more they were impressed.
A psychiatrist who evaluated him confirmed that everything the Oilers thought they knew about McNair as a leader was absolutely correct.
As for intelligence, the Oilers gave him basic football tests and discovered he was a brilliant, instinctive player.
Back when the Oilers were our team, they brought in Chris Chandler to play quarterback while Jerry Rhome tutored McNair. At some point, center Mark Stepnoski was the first to say what plenty of others were saying privately. He wanted McNair on the field, and he wanted him immediately.
It wasn’t just the ability. Everyone could see McNair had great ability. It was something more than that. It was the way he carried himself, the way he interacted with teammates, the respect he garnered from those around him.
Charitable nature
He was that way with kids and with a lot of people who needed help. He had a charitable heart. If you needed something, he would be there with a smile and a handshake. He was a private person in a public business, accepting of the scrutiny but never seeking it.
Quarterbacks are different. From the earliest age, they’re the ones of whom the most is expected. They’re usually the toughest guys on the field and sometimes the smartest.
The best ones accept the blame when things go bad and deflect the credit when things go well. They’re the leaders in the locker room and the faces of franchises.
They’re some odd combination of labor and management, and there’s no other position in sports like quarterback.
The really good ones, the Steve McNairs and Peyton Mannings and Tom Bradys, play this role effortlessly. They’re the ones who own the room when they walk in. They don’t do it with words, but with a confidence and a presence everyone can sense.
McNair was like that. He was quiet, and he was tough as nails. He cared about his teammates.
He was a farm boy at heart. His teammates lifted weights; McNair baled hay on his farm.
In those first years with the Oilers, he got a call from an Alcorn teammate telling him about a Houston teen who was in trouble, who seemed about to be swallowed up by gangs and drugs.
Would Steve go see the kid, try to convince him he was headed down a bad road?
Vince Young has said McNair was one of the people who saved his life, and they became lifelong friends.
Last fall when Young quit on his team, McNair came back and talked to him again.
Measure of character
I don’t know what happened to McNair. I don’t know the circumstances of his death.
I just know there are layers to all of us, that none of us is perfect, that it’s foolish to paint someone with a single brush.
I also know Steve McNair cared about people and performed brilliantly and courageously on the football field. In the ways we should measure a professional athlete, there were few better than McNair.
I know he touched a lot of people in the right way, and today their hearts are breaking.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
So ESPN basically reported this morning on Sportscenter that it appears the woman shot McNair several times including a fatal shot to the head, then turned the gun on herself. Police are not actively pursuing any suspects, etc...
Here is where maybe some of you with far more insight and wisdom than I possess can figure this out. While we don't know 100%, it seems like he was seperated from his wife. He bought an Escalade with this woman, and it sure didn't look like he was hiding the fact they were together.
So whaty exactly would possess this woman to kill him and then herself? If they had been dating for a few months, it seems natural that McNair was doing maybe not the right things but he wasn't showing this woman thru actions that he didn't want to be with her. When you buy a Cadillac together that is a pretty strong step for a relationship that was a few months old. What did this woman want...to walk down the aisle immediately? The ex-b/f said McNair was telling her they would be together and eveything was going to be great...doesn't sound like McNair was showing up for a booty call and then leaving this woman...he was going places in public with her.
Could she have been trying to break up with McNair? Wouldn't seem to fit as once she killed him I would think she wouldn't turn the gun on herself but would try and say it was self defense.
Very strange to me. Maybe Steve was breaking it off with her and wanted to come back to his wife. So many disturbing questions with this.
Here is where maybe some of you with far more insight and wisdom than I possess can figure this out. While we don't know 100%, it seems like he was seperated from his wife. He bought an Escalade with this woman, and it sure didn't look like he was hiding the fact they were together.
So whaty exactly would possess this woman to kill him and then herself? If they had been dating for a few months, it seems natural that McNair was doing maybe not the right things but he wasn't showing this woman thru actions that he didn't want to be with her. When you buy a Cadillac together that is a pretty strong step for a relationship that was a few months old. What did this woman want...to walk down the aisle immediately? The ex-b/f said McNair was telling her they would be together and eveything was going to be great...doesn't sound like McNair was showing up for a booty call and then leaving this woman...he was going places in public with her.
Could she have been trying to break up with McNair? Wouldn't seem to fit as once she killed him I would think she wouldn't turn the gun on herself but would try and say it was self defense.
Very strange to me. Maybe Steve was breaking it off with her and wanted to come back to his wife. So many disturbing questions with this.
And there's still that weird comment by the ex-boyfriend that didn't really make any sense, about banging on the door Saturday morning (her door? his door?).Where are you guys getting that the police were not called immediately? I didn't see that in the update reel, but it is hard to read.
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