Yeah I don't see what the argument here is by some people. I refrained from commenting because I was targeting him as my 26th player out of 26 in a dynasty league. He's a lottery ticket. If he gets cut, that's easy enough and I pick up a kicker. If he makes the team, he'll have injury prone or largely unproven players in front of him so we'll see what happens.Yes, he's a long shot. However if he does hit. His upside is excellent. That's all anyone is saying.
And the non "long shot" on the 'Boys RB depth chart is?Yeah I don't see what the argument here is by some people. I refrained from commenting because I was targeting him as my 26th player out of 26 in a dynasty league. He's a lottery ticket. If he gets cut, that's easy enough and I pick up a kicker. If he makes the team, he'll have injury prone or largely unproven players in front of him so we'll see what happens.Yes, he's a long shot. However if he does hit. His upside is excellent. That's all anyone is saying.
It's not like anyone is investing a first rounder in him.
What does that have to do with Lache? All the more reason to take a chance on him.And the non "long shot" on the 'Boys RB depth chart is?Yeah I don't see what the argument here is by some people. I refrained from commenting because I was targeting him as my 26th player out of 26 in a dynasty league. He's a lottery ticket. If he gets cut, that's easy enough and I pick up a kicker. If he makes the team, he'll have injury prone or largely unproven players in front of him so we'll see what happens.Yes, he's a long shot. However if he does hit. His upside is excellent. That's all anyone is saying.
It's not like anyone is investing a first rounder in him.
Bully! That's precisely the point!What does that have to do with Lache? All the more reason to take a chance on him.And the non "long shot" on the 'Boys RB depth chart is?Yeah I don't see what the argument here is by some people. I refrained from commenting because I was targeting him as my 26th player out of 26 in a dynasty league. He's a lottery ticket. If he gets cut, that's easy enough and I pick up a kicker. If he makes the team, he'll have injury prone or largely unproven players in front of him so we'll see what happens.Yes, he's a long shot. However if he does hit. His upside is excellent. That's all anyone is saying.
It's not like anyone is investing a first rounder in him.
And it's certainly arguable that The Underwear Thief remains so. It's really difficult to see a clear starter in this group at all.Randle fans need not get their panties in a bunch because Lache is in town. If my memory serves me correctly, Joseph Randle was once a "long shot" and we see how that turned out. Lache has as good a chance as anyone on that roster of starting. Buy buy buy.
I didn't even think of that. Boys need a KR with the departure of Harris.I'll grab him on principle. Still think he should be returning kicks. If he gets cut, drop him, screw it.
He was free anyway.
Not sure if he can catch the ball well enough out of the backfield, let alone field kicks. But we'll see.I didn't even think of that. Boys need a KR with the departure of Harris.I'll grab him on principle. Still think he should be returning kicks. If he gets cut, drop him, screw it.
He was free anyway.
Well like I said, I watched his highlight reel and came away unimpressed. That's not supposed to happen.Not sure if he can catch the ball well enough out of the backfield, let alone field kicks. But we'll see.I didn't even think of that. Boys need a KR with the departure of Harris.I'll grab him on principle. Still think he should be returning kicks. If he gets cut, drop him, screw it.
He was free anyway.
do you not like guys who break tackles and run away from DBs? He looks fast with good vision to me. Not sure what you are watching. His weakness is in the passing game and he just wasn't used in that role...Well like I said, I watched his highlight reel and came away unimpressed. That's not supposed to happen.Not sure if he can catch the ball well enough out of the backfield, let alone field kicks. But we'll see.I didn't even think of that. Boys need a KR with the departure of Harris.I'll grab him on principle. Still think he should be returning kicks. If he gets cut, drop him, screw it.
He was free anyway.
At what spot would you be taking him?MAC_32 said:If he falls five more picks I'm picking him in an ongoing draft.
42nd round.At what spot would you be taking him?MAC_32 said:If he falls five more picks I'm picking him in an ongoing draft.
I don't play IDP but I gotta assume at that point, what's the risk? My 25/26th rounds in a non-IDP were Ryan Williams and Lache. In fact I need one of them to either not make the team or go to IR in the preseason because I don't have a kicker at the moment. I'll shoot for the fences and it's no big deal if they both repeat what they've done in their career so far.42nd round.At what spot would you be taking him?MAC_32 said:If he falls five more picks I'm picking him in an ongoing draft.
thisBuzzCagney said:with all the unhype seastrunk is getting it seems to me that he will be the one to hit.
ESPN Dallas' Todd Archer suggests second-year RB Lache Seastrunk could be headed to Dallas' practice squad.
Archer says Seastrunk is the clear No. 5 back behind Joseph Randle, Darren McFadden, Lance Dunbar, and Ryan Williams, and didn't so much as get a practice rep when reporters were there to observe Cowboys spring practices. Archer says it "doesn't appear" Seastrunk is a realistic candidate for the 53-man roster.
Source: ESPN Dallas
Jun 21 - 4:04 PM
Do you think anyone spent "too much" on a guy that was a third round rookie pick before his rookie season and did nothing but get released by three teams during that rookie season? He was a waiver wire add for 99.9% of his owners I'm sure.A majority of the lottery tickets you buy turn out to be losers. Hopefully nobody spent too much.
At this point, yes, he's a ww add for almost everyone.Do you think anyone spent "too much" on a guy that was a third round rookie pick before his rookie season and did nothing but get released by three teams during that rookie season? He was a waiver wire add for 99.9% of his owners I'm sure.A majority of the lottery tickets you buy turn out to be losers. Hopefully nobody spent too much.
He was also going in the 2nd round of most rookie drafts, too early to cast him away, imo. Especially in Dallas with the beasty offensive line.At this point, yes, he's a ww add for almost everyone.Do you think anyone spent "too much" on a guy that was a third round rookie pick before his rookie season and did nothing but get released by three teams during that rookie season? He was a waiver wire add for 99.9% of his owners I'm sure.A majority of the lottery tickets you buy turn out to be losers. Hopefully nobody spent too much.
But as stated much earlier in this thread, there was a time when he was a high (top 5) devy pick for leagues who do that. That's the only reason he even has continued interest and name recognition.
i spent 40% of blind bid cash on him, that's like tge max for too much maybe...who knows what that would have amounted toDo you think anyone spent "too much" on a guy that was a third round rookie pick before his rookie season and did nothing but get released by three teams during that rookie season? He was a waiver wire add for 99.9% of his owners I'm sure.A majority of the lottery tickets you buy turn out to be losers. Hopefully nobody spent too much.
Has he been cut?? Link?Did anyone really think this guy was going to make the roster in Dallas?
Anticipating Darren McFadden or Ryan Williams potentially getting banged up does seem like a pretty foolish stance to take.Did anyone really think this guy was going to make the roster in Dallas?
Those guys can both get injured and he still doesn't touch the field. He's 5th on the depth chart.Anticipating Darren McFadden or Ryan Williams potentially getting banged up does seem like a pretty foolish stance to take.Did anyone really think this guy was going to make the roster in Dallas?
That would then make him third on the depth chart with Dunbar being more of a third down type back - so there could potentially be some opportunity to see the field and then it would be on him to prove his worth. I'm not arguing that he's anything more than a long shot - but he was certainly one to take a chance on for as cheap as he was.Those guys can both get injured and he still doesn't touch the field. He's 5th on the depth chart.Anticipating Darren McFadden or Ryan Williams potentially getting banged up does seem like a pretty foolish stance to take.Did anyone really think this guy was going to make the roster in Dallas?
THe rap sheet on Gus Johnson says he's fairly worthless as a pass catcher and even worse in pass protection and he's not a chain mover, despite his build. I guess that tells why he was undrafted.Williams out of the picture now, so that is one thing going in Lache's favor or does the Gus Johnson addition keep it the same? Can't wait to see this guy behind that deep Cowboys OL in preseason
I tend to agree... Not sure I get all the hype for a guy released by the Redskins, Panthers and Titans before appearing in a regular season game.DawnBTVS said:Not sold on this guy... electric speed and great at running the ball, certainly.
His NFL prospects are (at the moment) virtually nil for two big reasons
1: Not a threat in the passing game despite his size. For a big RB who's 230-240, that's fine but not for somebody of Lache's size.
2: Tying into that, he's untrustworthy in pass pro. At his best, he can be like Sproles and probably chip a guy before going into the flat but Romo is far more valuable to the Cowboys (obviously) and until he can pass protect consistently, he won't surpass anything more than practice squad or deep 3rd/4th RB fodder. All it takes is a missed block or missed assignment to get Romo injured and send a team's year spiraling.
Notice I didn't claim "give this guy 20 pass protections and he'll keep his QB upright!" All he needs are carries. If this kid never sees the field during a regular season game I will be super bummed! Don't let a stud go from 7+ yards a carry to never more than practice squad. Please, Jerry.I tend to agree... Not sure I get all the hype for a guy released by the Redskins, Panthers and Titans before appearing in a regular season game.DawnBTVS said:Not sold on this guy... electric speed and great at running the ball, certainly.
His NFL prospects are (at the moment) virtually nil for two big reasons
1: Not a threat in the passing game despite his size. For a big RB who's 230-240, that's fine but not for somebody of Lache's size.
2: Tying into that, he's untrustworthy in pass pro. At his best, he can be like Sproles and probably chip a guy before going into the flat but Romo is far more valuable to the Cowboys (obviously) and until he can pass protect consistently, he won't surpass anything more than practice squad or deep 3rd/4th RB fodder. All it takes is a missed block or missed assignment to get Romo injured and send a team's year spiraling.
This is too overboard. It's not Lache at all.I don't understand the, he got cut by 3 teams so he must suck argument. Coaches have been wrong multiple times. He didn't even put pads on with the Titans. He obviously has some things to work on and maybe they just didn't have the roster room. Arian Foster, who has been one of the best RBs in the league past few years, started out on the practice squad and nobody else claimed him. Does that mean he sucks? Coaches get it wrong, players take different paths...it happens
I think most people that are hating probably have a fixed mindset meaning they think that players can only be good as they are in that moment in time. There is no working for improvement as you are born with a certain level of ability. I strongly believe in the growth mindset which tells me players can change, develop, and good things can happen if they keep grinding. While I don't know how hard Lache works, but i know he is born with enough athletic ability if he can figure the rest out. Plenty of players have taken weird paths. Look at James Harrison- the Steelers cut him 3 times and the Ravens cut him once- what did he become?
Doesn't matter how many carries he gets. If you cannot pass protect in the NFL, you're not going to get carries. It's that simple.Notice I didn't claim "give this guy 20 pass protections and he'll keep his QB upright!" All he needs are carries. If this kid never sees the field during a regular season game I will be super bummed! Don't let a stud go from 7+ yards a carry to never more than practice squad. Please, Jerry.I tend to agree... Not sure I get all the hype for a guy released by the Redskins, Panthers and Titans before appearing in a regular season game.DawnBTVS said:Not sold on this guy... electric speed and great at running the ball, certainly.
His NFL prospects are (at the moment) virtually nil for two big reasons
1: Not a threat in the passing game despite his size. For a big RB who's 230-240, that's fine but not for somebody of Lache's size.
2: Tying into that, he's untrustworthy in pass pro. At his best, he can be like Sproles and probably chip a guy before going into the flat but Romo is far more valuable to the Cowboys (obviously) and until he can pass protect consistently, he won't surpass anything more than practice squad or deep 3rd/4th RB fodder. All it takes is a missed block or missed assignment to get Romo injured and send a team's year spiraling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1oewW3nNJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT8yGd1I6vs
Keeping the dream alive with highlight vids.
MJD, DMC, Toby Gerhart, a dead legged Ben Tate, all the Arizona RB's beyond Ellington were not capable of running the football last year but were given the opportunity to do so. I don't have faith in NFL personnel people 100%. They are human and judge things beyond simply ones running ability. Most of the time they are correct in their assessments and we follow their lead in our team construction. This just happens to be one of those times where, while I don't necessarily feel they are wrong for why they didn't keep Seastrunk around, I feel raw talent is high and if the intangibles come around its not something I wish to miss on. Especially if it happens behind the Dallas oline. Hopefully he breaks camp with the team. Probably more likely on PS again but I'm holding my breath and its as good a joker to have in your hand as any.Doesn't matter how many carries he gets. If you cannot pass protect in the NFL, you're not going to get carries. It's that simple.Notice I didn't claim "give this guy 20 pass protections and he'll keep his QB upright!" All he needs are carries. If this kid never sees the field during a regular season game I will be super bummed! Don't let a stud go from 7+ yards a carry to never more than practice squad. Please, Jerry.I tend to agree... Not sure I get all the hype for a guy released by the Redskins, Panthers and Titans before appearing in a regular season game.DawnBTVS said:Not sold on this guy... electric speed and great at running the ball, certainly.
His NFL prospects are (at the moment) virtually nil for two big reasons
1: Not a threat in the passing game despite his size. For a big RB who's 230-240, that's fine but not for somebody of Lache's size.
2: Tying into that, he's untrustworthy in pass pro. At his best, he can be like Sproles and probably chip a guy before going into the flat but Romo is far more valuable to the Cowboys (obviously) and until he can pass protect consistently, he won't surpass anything more than practice squad or deep 3rd/4th RB fodder. All it takes is a missed block or missed assignment to get Romo injured and send a team's year spiraling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1oewW3nNJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT8yGd1I6vs
Keeping the dream alive with highlight vids.
Almost every single RB can run the ball in the NFL from the starters on down to the 3rd and 4th stringers. They are all athletic and have enough speed. There's also a reason why 'pass protection' is treated as a core value of drafting or acquiring a RB by NFL teams and to ignore that for the sake of 'fantasy' is doing a disservice to yourself as an evaluator of talent.
For every Justin Forsett or Priest Holmes, there's a Mike Hart or James Davis.
13-34-1I tend to agree... Not sure I get all the hype for a guy released by the Redskins, Panthers and Titans before appearing in a regular season game.DawnBTVS said:Not sold on this guy... electric speed and great at running the ball, certainly.
His NFL prospects are (at the moment) virtually nil for two big reasons
1: Not a threat in the passing game despite his size. For a big RB who's 230-240, that's fine but not for somebody of Lache's size.
2: Tying into that, he's untrustworthy in pass pro. At his best, he can be like Sproles and probably chip a guy before going into the flat but Romo is far more valuable to the Cowboys (obviously) and until he can pass protect consistently, he won't surpass anything more than practice squad or deep 3rd/4th RB fodder. All it takes is a missed block or missed assignment to get Romo injured and send a team's year spiraling.
Yeah, but with Blount's issues who knows what was going on with him...could say the same of Seastrunk, he's allegedly a weird dude, and a guy coaches don't like. Not sure if that's a comment on work ethic, personality, etc. or if it's just internet rumor but I've seen it around multiple places.Didn't the Titans keep Javon Ringer and release Blount before he tore it up with the Bucs?
Blount cut himself. It was a tight race. He had four chances to pound it in from the one and failed each time.Didn't the Titans keep Javon Ringer and release Blount before he tore it up with the Bucs?