Knile Davis RB - Arkansas (1 Viewer)

[Eminence]

Is it possible Davis is drafted high and begins to take the sport as a professional? If I were making $500,000 a year and knew if I played hard could acquire a multimillion dollar contract I'd jump on it.He's got a lot to work with. With proper coaching, could be an impact player. I'd like to see Shanahan (Redskins) get their hands on him. Alfred who?

Everything Davis completely lacks as a player, Morris does very well. His vision, his wiggle, the way he finishes runs, his ability to absorb contact and avoid the big hit (and usually the fumble). Comparing them isn't really fair, if you actually care about the little things that make good RB's in the NFL what they are. Unless all you care about are size/straight-line speed combo. Because that's the only comparison that Knile Davis wins. And I was someone who really liked him as a sleeper pre-combine to the right team. That team just wouldn't be the Redskins.

:(Where would be a good landing spot?

 

[jonboltz]

Is it possible Davis is drafted high and begins to take the sport as a professional? If I were making $500,000 a year and knew if I played hard could acquire a multimillion dollar contract I'd jump on it.He's got a lot to work with. With proper coaching, could be an impact player. I'd like to see Shanahan (Redskins) get their hands on him. Alfred who?

Everything Davis completely lacks as a player, Morris does very well. His vision, his wiggle, the way he finishes runs, his ability to absorb contact and avoid the big hit (and usually the fumble). Comparing them isn't really fair, if you actually care about the little things that make good RB's in the NFL what they are. Unless all you care about are size/straight-line speed combo. Because that's the only comparison that Knile Davis wins. And I was someone who really liked him as a sleeper pre-combine to the right team. That team just wouldn't be the Redskins.

:(Where would be a good landing spot?

I'd imagine the most likely best-case scenarios for Knile would be...-ATL; assuming they bring in a vet to be the starter (SJax, DeAngelo, etc)-IND; if they are confident that Ballard can at least be respectible, they might not shoot for a better RB-HOU; with AF signed, they might want to groom his new backup in-case Tate moves on-BUF; decent O-line, and with a RB that probably isn't going to command 300+ carries-KCC; see BUF-TAM; less desirable due to Martin's ageSeveral teams I excluded from the list because I didn't think it was 'likely' that he goes to a team with 1) an unestablished starter; and 2) a starter with injury concerns.

 

[DaveL]

Waldman on Knile

 

[werdnoynek]

Waldman on Knile

the video evidence is great. sums up pretty much what the naysayers have been saying all thread.

 

[Nero]

[:(Where would be a good landing spot?

San Francisco. Watch Gore for a year, then compete with the undersized Kendall Hunter and LaMichael James.

 

[EBF]

But isn't Frank Gore basically the anti-Knile? Nimble. Amazing vision and instincts. Very tough. Runs low and maximizes his blocking.

Dennis Johnson is more like Frank Gore than Knile Davis is.

Knile is like a thicker McFadden. His game is all vertical. If the crease isn't there, he's not going to make it happen on his own.

My take anyway.

 

[Nero]

Wasn't comparing him to Gore in any way. Just speaking on San Francisco being a good situation to go to. Given they are picking late 3rd, I think its a very plausible scenario.

 

[gianmarco]

Anyone saying Davis will be going later than the 5th is in denial. Yes, the combine is just the combine, but in a weak class where Davis is potentially a top 5 RB he's going to go somewhere in the 3rd-5th rounds.

Some crow to be eaten in this one for all of you saying there was no chance he's going higher than the fifth, Lattimore is better/less injury concern, etc. 6th rb taken, only guy in the 3rd, and lands in a solid situation to be relevant as early as this year in a timeshare.

 

[Nucker101]

Anyone saying Davis will be going later than the 5th is in denial. Yes, the combine is just the combine, but in a weak class where Davis is potentially a top 5 RB he's going to go somewhere in the 3rd-5th rounds.

Some crow to be eaten in this one for all of you saying there was no chance he's going higher than the fifth, Lattimore is better/less injury concern, etc.6th rb taken, only guy in the 3rd, and lands in a solid situation to be relevant as early as this year in a timeshare.

I really believe that he's the most talented runner in this class as long as he can stay healthy.

 

[cstu]

Anyone saying Davis will be going later than the 5th is in denial. Yes, the combine is just the combine, but in a weak class where Davis is potentially a top 5 RB he's going to go somewhere in the 3rd-5th rounds.

Some crow to be eaten in this one for all of you saying there was no chance he's going higher than the fifth, Lattimore is better/less injury concern, etc.6th rb taken, only guy in the 3rd, and lands in a solid situation to be relevant as early as this year in a timeshare.

I'll eat some crow on his draft position but this was a need pick for a role player. He has a worse road to being a starter than even Christine Michael.

 

[Faust]

Keep in mind this is directly from the Chief's web site:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Chiefs-Select-RB-Knile-Davis-with-96th-Pick/450a4395-b4c1-4749-bf93-6a4e07a39a79

Chiefs Select RB Knile Davis with 96th PickReid Ferrin

Chiefs Insider

KCChiefs.com

Team adds more strength and speed to RB corpsThe Kansas City Chiefs used their 96th overall pick to select RB Knile Davis, from the University of Arkansas.

Davis (5’10", 227lbs) has the strength and speed that Chiefs RB coach Eric Bieniemy will put to great use.

Although injuries have slowed his seasons at times, when healthy, Davis is as good as advertised. He played in 10 games during the 2012 season, carrying the ball 112 times for 444 yards and two TDs.

Despite being voted a team captain and named to numerous preseason All-America and All-SEC teams, he missed the entire 2011 season after suffering an injury Aug. 11 during a preseason scrimmage.Following limited carries in 2009, opportunity knocked in 2010 because of injuries to teammates (running back Dennis Johnson, receiver Greg Childs) and Davis made the most of it, leading the SEC in rushing with 1,322 yards, the most by a running back in the conference and the fourth-highest single-season total in program history. His average of 101.7 rushing yards per game ranked just second in the SEC and 16th in the NCAA. Davis also ranked sixth in the SEC with 13 rushing touchdowns, tied for the 10th-highest single-season total in Arkansas history and tied for sixth in the SEC for points by a non-kicker with 84.

Davis' six 100-yard rushing games tied for the fourth-highest single-season total. His 6.48 yards per rushing attempt was the highest in the NCAA among running backs that carried the ball a minimum of 200 times and ranked as the fifth-highest single-season average at Arkansas. He averaged 112.2 all-purpose yards per game, which ranked sixth in the SEC.

Despite the injuries, Davis said that he used the 2013 NFL Scouting Combine to help prove he is worthy and strong enough to play in the league.

"That was my goal coming off that bad season," Davis said. "I needed something to kind of resurrect my career back to where it was. I think that definitely helped.”

He ran a group best 4.37-sec 40-yard dash and bench pressed 225-lbs 31 times and added a 33.5-inch vertical jump.

The Chiefs see the upside in Davis and proved it by making him their final third-round pick.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Anyone saying Davis will be going later than the 5th is in denial. Yes, the combine is just the combine, but in a weak class where Davis is potentially a top 5 RB he's going to go somewhere in the 3rd-5th rounds.

Some crow to be eaten in this one for all of you saying there was no chance he's going higher than the fifth, Lattimore is better/less injury concern, etc.6th rb taken, only guy in the 3rd, and lands in a solid situation to be relevant as early as this year in a timeshare.

I'll eat some crow on his draft position but this was a need pick for a role player. He has a worse road to being a starter than even Christine Michael.

So let's assume both Jamaal Charles and Marshawn Lynch tear their ACLs in week 1, you think Shaun Draughn and Cyrus Gray are stiffer competition for being a starting RB than Robert Turbin is?

It may take a year, but imo Knile Davis could be one Jamaal Charles injury from getting the lions share of the Chiefs carries, and given their current lack of big backs I could see Davis having a role right away.

As for Christine Michael on the Seahawks, I would think Turbin's presence would prevent Christine Michael from getting the lion share of the Seahawks carries even if Marshawn Lynch went down, not to mention Turbin has both the size to handle goal line duties and the pass catching ability to be the 3rd down back.

 

[cstu]

Anyone saying Davis will be going later than the 5th is in denial. Yes, the combine is just the combine, but in a weak class where Davis is potentially a top 5 RB he's going to go somewhere in the 3rd-5th rounds.

Some crow to be eaten in this one for all of you saying there was no chance he's going higher than the fifth, Lattimore is better/less injury concern, etc.6th rb taken, only guy in the 3rd, and lands in a solid situation to be relevant as early as this year in a timeshare.

I'll eat some crow on his draft position but this was a need pick for a role player. He has a worse road to being a starter than even Christine Michael.

So let's assume both Jamaal Charles and Marshawn Lynch tear their ACLs in week 1, you think Shaun Draughn and Cyrus Gray are stiffer competition for being a starting RB than Robert Turbin is?

It may take a year, but imo Knile Davis could be one Jamaal Charles injury from getting the lions share of the Chiefs carries, and given their current lack of big backs I could see Davis having a role right away.

As for Christine Michael on the Seahawks, I would think Turbin's presence would prevent Christine Michael from getting the lion share of the Seahawks carries even if Marshawn Lynch went down, not to mention Turbin has both the size to handle goal line duties and the pass catching ability to be the 3rd down back.

You can't count on injuries for these guys to see playing time. Charles is younger and is signed through 2015 on a relatively cheap contract. Lynch will be 30 in 2015 (the last year of his deal) and have a cap hit of $9M. He could be let go for a younger back the way SJax was so you're looking at a one year shorter path to a starting job for Michael than Davis.

 

[werdnoynek]

Anyone saying Davis will be going later than the 5th is in denial. Yes, the combine is just the combine, but in a weak class where Davis is potentially a top 5 RB he's going to go somewhere in the 3rd-5th rounds.

Some crow to be eaten in this one for all of you saying there was no chance he's going higher than the fifth, Lattimore is better/less injury concern, etc.6th rb taken, only guy in the 3rd, and lands in a solid situation to be relevant as early as this year in a timeshare.

I'll eat some crow on his draft position but this was a need pick for a role player. He has a worse road to being a starter than even Christine Michael.

So let's assume both Jamaal Charles and Marshawn Lynch tear their ACLs in week 1, you think Shaun Draughn and Cyrus Gray are stiffer competition for being a starting RB than Robert Turbin is?

It may take a year, but imo Knile Davis could be one Jamaal Charles injury from getting the lions share of the Chiefs carries, and given their current lack of big backs I could see Davis having a role right away.

As for Christine Michael on the Seahawks, I would think Turbin's presence would prevent Christine Michael from getting the lion share of the Seahawks carries even if Marshawn Lynch went down, not to mention Turbin has both the size to handle goal line duties and the pass catching ability to be the 3rd down back.

You can't count on injuries for these guys to see playing time. Charles is younger and is signed through 2015 on a relatively cheap contract. Lynch will be 30 in 2015 (the last year of his deal) and have a cap hit of $9M. He could be let go for a younger back the way SJax was so you're looking at a one year shorter path to a starting job for Michael than Davis.

It's a fantastic situation for Davis. I still question his ability to become a producer at RB. He needs to establish himself as more than a straight line guy. If he can return to the 2010 form, I'd be shocked and a believer. Until then... pass.

 

[gianmarco]

Anyone saying Davis will be going later than the 5th is in denial. Yes, the combine is just the combine, but in a weak class where Davis is potentially a top 5 RB he's going to go somewhere in the 3rd-5th rounds.

Some crow to be eaten in this one for all of you saying there was no chance he's going higher than the fifth, Lattimore is better/less injury concern, etc.6th rb taken, only guy in the 3rd, and lands in a solid situation to be relevant as early as this year in a timeshare.

I'll eat some crow on his draft position but this was a need pick for a role player. He has a worse road to being a starter than even Christine Michael.

So let's assume both Jamaal Charles and Marshawn Lynch tear their ACLs in week 1, you think Shaun Draughn and Cyrus Gray are stiffer competition for being a starting RB than Robert Turbin is? It may take a year, but imo Knile Davis could be one Jamaal Charles injury from getting the lions share of the Chiefs carries, and given their current lack of big backs I could see Davis having a role right away. As for Christine Michael on the Seahawks, I would think Turbin's presence would prevent Christine Michael from getting the lion share of the Seahawks carries even if Marshawn Lynch went down, not to mention Turbin has both the size to handle goal line duties and the pass catching ability to be the 3rd down back.

You can't count on injuries for these guys to see playing time. Charles is younger and is signed through 2015 on a relatively cheap contract. Lynch will be 30 in 2015 (the last year of his deal) and have a cap hit of $9M. He could be let go for a younger back the way SJax was so you're looking at a one year shorter path to a starting job for Michael than Davis.

It's a fantastic situation for Davis. I still question his ability to become a producer at RB. He needs to establish himself as more than a straight line guy. If he can return to the 2010 form, I'd be shocked and a believer. Until then... pass.

Agree, mostly. More than content with his landing spot and should be able to show something in first couple years to see what he has.

 

[jonboltz]

About as good as a situation as he could have expected. I feel it was a terrible pick for KC, but I'm not a GM. Should be able to learn how good he is sooner than later.

 

[delusional]

About as good as a situation as he could have expected. I feel it was a terrible pick for KC, but I'm not a GM. Should be able to learn how good he is sooner than later.

Has Reid written all over it.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Per the Kansas City Star, third-round RB Knile Davis has been one of the early disappointments of training camp.
Predictably. Davis has been working as the Chiefs' kick returner, and he's muffed a couple. He's also proceeded to drop multiple passes out of the backfield. A chronic fumbler in college, the Chiefs will get their first look at Davis in pads on Sunday. He's competing with Shaun Draughn for No. 2 back duties.

Source: Kansas City Star

The Chiefs are hoping third-round pick Knile Davis can be their kickoff return specialist.

Davis proceeded to drop a kickoff on the first day of full-squad camp. "We'll get that fixed," coach Andy Reid promised. Davis' game tape as a running back was not impressive at Arkansas. He also never returned a kick in college.

Jul 26 - 9:40 PM

Source: Kansas City Star

Chiefs third-round RB Knile Davis says his fumble issues are "under control."

At Arkansas last season, Davis had seven fumbles on 112 carries. Chiefs coaches are teaching him to hold the ball high and tight. "It's fixed," said Davis. "I think I'll never fumble again. ... It's not really that big of a deal. I had two bad games last year where I fumbled a lot. It was just me not focusing on it." Davis is competing to be Jamaal Charles' primary backup and handcuff.

May 30 - 11:38 AM

Source: Kansas City Star

 

[Faust]

Wow, Rotoworld really doesn't like Davis.

 

[Shanahanigans]

Wow, Rotoworld really doesn't like Davis.

Ya. They hated CJ Spiller too.

 

[ShaHBucks]

That's harsh criticism given he's never returned kicks before.

 

[ShaHBucks]

http://www.juanelway.com/jamaal-charles-invades-knile-davis-room-vine/

 

[FGITLOTR]

Both Hansen and Kaplan stated on Sirius Radio today that their sources told them the Chiefs are raving about Davis and will get around 7-10 touches a game...I'm not a fan, but I wanted to pass this along

 

[(HULK)]

Bump.

If something is wrong with Charles, what would people predict for Knile?

 

[Shutout]

I know the buzz is around him today because of yesterday's issue but overall, Davis has meant nothing noteworthy to fantasy ballers to this point.

First and foremost, the only way he has any relevance is with an injury. THat is legit, not saying its not a reason to look at him but more as a way of saying he hasn't got any value as a stand alone guy that will get 12-15 carries a game or anything.

The other issue with him is still the same. The knock on him has always been that yeah, he has this speed but he doesn't have the inside game to do what he should do at that size. That may very well be fixable. I don't know but if I were looking at adding him or anything, I would want to watch some playing time with him and judge that. The other stuff (fumbles, etc) I think you just have to decide for yourself if that is important to you or not.

 

[gianmarco]

(Rotoworld)Third-round rookie Knile Davis has been the clear-cut No. 2 running back at Chiefs camp.

Analysis: Davis has zoomed past Shaun Draughn and Cyrus Gray without issue, showing "game-breaking speed" and "uncanny elusiveness" as a runner. His notorious fumble issues haven't cropped up yet. It's something to file away as we await official word on Jamaal Charles' foot injury.

Analysis: Reid did not provide a timetable for Charles' return. There have a number of conflicting reports regarding the injury already, with Reid telling Sirius XM that his offensive centerpiece could return Tuesday while ESPN's Adam Schefter reported an hour earlier that Chiefs' officials are "privately concerned". The likelihood is that the injury is not serious, but it is notable that most of the practice reps after Charles' departure went to rookie Knile Davis

And, Knile Davis 70 yard kickoff return last week

 

[jmo87usc]

(Rotoworld)Third-round rookie Knile Davis has been the clear-cut No. 2 running back at Chiefs camp.

Analysis: Davis has zoomed past Shaun Draughn and Cyrus Gray without issue, showing "game-breaking speed" and "uncanny elusiveness" as a runner. His notorious fumble issues haven't cropped up yet. It's something to file away as we await official word on Jamaal Charles' foot injury.

Analysis: Reid did not provide a timetable for Charles' return. There have a number of conflicting reports regarding the injury already, with Reid telling Sirius XM that his offensive centerpiece could return Tuesday while ESPN's Adam Schefter reported an hour earlier that Chiefs' officials are "privately concerned". The likelihood is that the injury is not serious, but it is notable that most of the practice reps after Charles' departure went to rookie Knile Davis

And, Knile Davis 70 yard kickoff return last week

Nice cut on that return. Knile can be very dangerous in the open field and I think a coach like Reid will figure out how to get him the ball.

That being said, it looks like the Chiefs have no plans to retire Dale Carter's number.

 

[ShaHBucks]

He was running stiff and looked like he was too worried about fumbling in the preseason game.

 

[Warhogs]

I think people have been a bit slow to warm up to him and he is now getting some buzz with the injury scare. He certainly isn't a huge threat to a healthy Charles at this time but the Chiefs liked him enough to take him in round 3. There has been a ton more buzz about a lot of rookie RB taken later in the draft. He seems to have nice physical skills.

 

[menobrown]

He was running stiff and looked like he was too worried about fumbling in the preseason game.

I agree with half of that statement. I did not think he ran stiff but that's a subjective opinion. I mean compared to Charles I could see that but I thought he ran with decisiveness and power. It was extremely obvious that he was thinking to much about fumbling and this was very evident on two receptions he had when he was in open space and seemed to pause to adjust the ball properly when he should have been moving.

He also dropped a screen pass.

All of this jives 100% with camp reports on him. Those reports stated the Chiefs are very happy with what they have seen from him with respect to his running ability, that he has not fumbled one single time in training camp but the big knock on him to this point has been constant drops.

All in all his only value in redraft leagues is an injury to Charles but from a dynasty angle I thought pretty encouraging. Like a lot of rookies he's thinking to much and to overly concerned with making a mistake but in time the game will come more naturally to him.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

(Rotoworld)Third-round rookie Knile Davis has been the clear-cut No. 2 running back at Chiefs camp.

Analysis: Davis has zoomed past Shaun Draughn and Cyrus Gray without issue, showing "game-breaking speed" and "uncanny elusiveness" as a runner. His notorious fumble issues haven't cropped up yet. It's something to file away as we await official word on Jamaal Charles' foot injury.

Analysis: Reid did not provide a timetable for Charles' return. There have a number of conflicting reports regarding the injury already, with Reid telling Sirius XM that his offensive centerpiece could return Tuesday while ESPN's Adam Schefter reported an hour earlier that Chiefs' officials are "privately concerned". The likelihood is that the injury is not serious, but it is notable that most of the practice reps after Charles' departure went to rookie Knile Davis

And, Knile Davis 70 yard kickoff return last week

Nice cut on that return. Knile can be very dangerous in the open field and I think a coach like Reid will figure out how to get him the ball.

That being said, it looks like the Chiefs have no plans to retire Dale Carter's number.

I don't know, especially considering that the Saints had trouble defending the return all night long, my impression is he got caught on the kickoff return where other speedier guys would have scored, and his running was plodding, not great, nothing special. I thought Draughn looked better.

 

[menobrown]

(Rotoworld)Third-round rookie Knile Davis has been the clear-cut No. 2 running back at Chiefs camp.

Analysis: Davis has zoomed past Shaun Draughn and Cyrus Gray without issue, showing "game-breaking speed" and "uncanny elusiveness" as a runner. His notorious fumble issues haven't cropped up yet. It's something to file away as we await official word on Jamaal Charles' foot injury.

Analysis: Reid did not provide a timetable for Charles' return. There have a number of conflicting reports regarding the injury already, with Reid telling Sirius XM that his offensive centerpiece could return Tuesday while ESPN's Adam Schefter reported an hour earlier that Chiefs' officials are "privately concerned". The likelihood is that the injury is not serious, but it is notable that most of the practice reps after Charles' departure went to rookie Knile Davis

And, Knile Davis 70 yard kickoff return last week

Nice cut on that return. Knile can be very dangerous in the open field and I think a coach like Reid will figure out how to get him the ball.

That being said, it looks like the Chiefs have no plans to retire Dale Carter's number.

I don't know, especially considering that the Saints had trouble defending the return all night long, my impression is he got caught on the kickoff return where other speedier guys would have scored, and his running was plodding, not great, nothing special. I thought Draughn looked better.

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder:

Knile Davis, the Chiefs' third-round draft pick, stepped into Charles' place with the first-team offense for the remainder of Monday's practice. Davis had already moved past veteran Shaun Draughn and second-year running back Cyrus Gray to No. 2 on the depth chart.

"He went down. I had to get in, step in and play my role," Davis said. "[Reid's] whole goal was to build a team where if one man went down the next man would step up."

Reid said that the reps that Davis got with the first-team offense were invaluable.

The former Arkansas star was considered a first-round talent coming out of college, but he slipped down draft boards because of injury concerns and a propensity for fumbling. Already, he's shown game-breaking speed and uncanny elusiveness early in training camp.

"It was good work for Knile today, if you want to take a positive from it," Reid said. "It gives another guy an opportunity to practice. That's how I look at it. It allowed Knile, our young running back, to get good work with the ones."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/story/_/id/9560515/jamaal-charles-kansas-city-chiefs-hurts-foot-x-rays-negative

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

(Rotoworld)Third-round rookie Knile Davis has been the clear-cut No. 2 running back at Chiefs camp.

Analysis: Davis has zoomed past Shaun Draughn and Cyrus Gray without issue, showing "game-breaking speed" and "uncanny elusiveness" as a runner. His notorious fumble issues haven't cropped up yet. It's something to file away as we await official word on Jamaal Charles' foot injury.

Analysis: Reid did not provide a timetable for Charles' return. There have a number of conflicting reports regarding the injury already, with Reid telling Sirius XM that his offensive centerpiece could return Tuesday while ESPN's Adam Schefter reported an hour earlier that Chiefs' officials are "privately concerned". The likelihood is that the injury is not serious, but it is notable that most of the practice reps after Charles' departure went to rookie Knile Davis

And, Knile Davis 70 yard kickoff return last week

Nice cut on that return. Knile can be very dangerous in the open field and I think a coach like Reid will figure out how to get him the ball.

That being said, it looks like the Chiefs have no plans to retire Dale Carter's number.

I don't know, especially considering that the Saints had trouble defending the return all night long, my impression is he got caught on the kickoff return where other speedier guys would have scored, and his running was plodding, not great, nothing special. I thought Draughn looked better.

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder:

Knile Davis, the Chiefs' third-round draft pick, stepped into Charles' place with the first-team offense for the remainder of Monday's practice. Davis had already moved past veteran Shaun Draughn and second-year running back Cyrus Gray to No. 2 on the depth chart.

"He went down. I had to get in, step in and play my role," Davis said. "[Reid's] whole goal was to build a team where if one man went down the next man would step up."

Reid said that the reps that Davis got with the first-team offense were invaluable.

The former Arkansas star was considered a first-round talent coming out of college, but he slipped down draft boards because of injury concerns and a propensity for fumbling. Already, he's shown game-breaking speed and uncanny elusiveness early in training camp.

"It was good work for Knile today, if you want to take a positive from it," Reid said. "It gives another guy an opportunity to practice. That's how I look at it. It allowed Knile, our young running back, to get good work with the ones."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/story/_/id/9560515/jamaal-charles-kansas-city-chiefs-hurts-foot-x-rays-negative

And 5/7/0 on the ground, 4/18/0 by air, and being caught in an open KO lane all must look great to Coach, I guess.

 

[gianmarco]

(Rotoworld)Third-round rookie Knile Davis has been the clear-cut No. 2 running back at Chiefs camp.

Analysis: Davis has zoomed past Shaun Draughn and Cyrus Gray without issue, showing "game-breaking speed" and "uncanny elusiveness" as a runner. His notorious fumble issues haven't cropped up yet. It's something to file away as we await official word on Jamaal Charles' foot injury.

Analysis: Reid did not provide a timetable for Charles' return. There have a number of conflicting reports regarding the injury already, with Reid telling Sirius XM that his offensive centerpiece could return Tuesday while ESPN's Adam Schefter reported an hour earlier that Chiefs' officials are "privately concerned". The likelihood is that the injury is not serious, but it is notable that most of the practice reps after Charles' departure went to rookie Knile Davis

And, Knile Davis 70 yard kickoff return last week

Nice cut on that return. Knile can be very dangerous in the open field and I think a coach like Reid will figure out how to get him the ball.

That being said, it looks like the Chiefs have no plans to retire Dale Carter's number.

I don't know, especially considering that the Saints had trouble defending the return all night long, my impression is he got caught on the kickoff return where other speedier guys would have scored, and his running was plodding, not great, nothing special. I thought Draughn looked better.

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder:

Knile Davis, the Chiefs' third-round draft pick, stepped into Charles' place with the first-team offense for the remainder of Monday's practice. Davis had already moved past veteran Shaun Draughn and second-year running back Cyrus Gray to No. 2 on the depth chart.

"He went down. I had to get in, step in and play my role," Davis said. "[Reid's] whole goal was to build a team where if one man went down the next man would step up."

Reid said that the reps that Davis got with the first-team offense were invaluable.

The former Arkansas star was considered a first-round talent coming out of college, but he slipped down draft boards because of injury concerns and a propensity for fumbling. Already, he's shown game-breaking speed and uncanny elusiveness early in training camp.

"It was good work for Knile today, if you want to take a positive from it," Reid said. "It gives another guy an opportunity to practice. That's how I look at it. It allowed Knile, our young running back, to get good work with the ones."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/story/_/id/9560515/jamaal-charles-kansas-city-chiefs-hurts-foot-x-rays-negative

And 5/7/0 on the ground, 4/18/0 by air, and being caught in an open KO lane all must look great to Coach, I guess.

The guy is 228 lbs and took it 80 yds on a kickoff. There was only one guy fast enough to catch him and I would hope one of those speed guys would be able to track down a 230lb guy (even if takes 80 yards to do so).

ETA--The guy who caught him, #38 Rod Sweeting, is a 185 lb CB who ran as low as a 4.32. There's things to nitpick on with Knile for sure, but being caught by ONE speedy DB after an 80 yard return when the guy is the size that he is is a bit silly to me.

 

[Papa Georgio]

And 5/7/0 on the ground, 4/18/0 by air, and being caught in an open KO lane all must look great to Coach, I guess.

I am sure you are but there's this thing called angles that allows people to cut off and get in front of people even if they are faster.

 

[gianmarco]

Could be worse against SF.

 

[Bob Magaw]

explosive 109 yd kickoff return (to say TD would be redundant )...

 

[gianmarco]

109 yard Kickoff Return

That's a 230lb man

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Chiefs RB Knile Davis rushed five times for 12 yards in Saturday's third preseason game, and also lost a fumble.
Davis' fumble was soft, but he redeemed himself just moments later with a 109-yard kick-return touchdown. Nevertheless, the cough up was an ominous sign for the KnownFumbler™ heading into the regular season. Locked in as Jamaal Charles' backup, the talented but inconsistent rookie has 20 carries for only 56 yards (2.8 YPC) through three preseason games.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Rotoworld:

Chiefs RB Knile Davis rushed five times for 12 yards in Saturday's third preseason game, and also lost a fumble.

Davis' fumble was soft, but he redeemed himself just moments later with a 109-yard kick-return touchdown. Nevertheless, the cough up was an ominous sign for the KnownFumbler™ heading into the regular season. Locked in as Jamaal Charles' backup, the talented but inconsistent rookie has 20 carries for only 56 yards (2.8 YPC) through three preseason games.

as to low YPC, he lacks make-you-miss ability as RB...

but big time size/speed prospect... If he could have sustained the level at his best for 2-3 years and been clean medically, might have been a top 10-15 overall RB...

if it is blocked up right, or a defender gets out of position, he can take it to the house...

 

[EBF]

Rotoworld:

Chiefs RB Knile Davis rushed five times for 12 yards in Saturday's third preseason game, and also lost a fumble.

Davis' fumble was soft, but he redeemed himself just moments later with a 109-yard kick-return touchdown. Nevertheless, the cough up was an ominous sign for the KnownFumbler™ heading into the regular season. Locked in as Jamaal Charles' backup, the talented but inconsistent rookie has 20 carries for only 56 yards (2.8 YPC) through three preseason games.

as to low YPC, he lacks make-you-miss ability as RB...

but big time size/speed prospect... If he could have sustained the level at his best for 2-3 years and been clean medically, might have been a top 10-15 overall RB...

if it is blocked up right, or a defender gets out of position, he can take it to the house...

He really is like a bigger DMC.

Give him wide lanes and let him use his speed, and he looks like an All-Pro.

Force him to operate in tight quarters and he'll get you about 2 YPC.

I'm conflicted because I don't like his running style at all, but I also think he's criminally underrated in rookie drafts based on his draft slot. It's very rare to see a 3rd round rookie RB fall to the 3rd-4th round of rookie drafts. I had to take him in one league because it was pick 3.11, he was still out there, and I just couldn't justify passing.

I'm just hoping he'll bust a few long runs at some point so I can trade him for a high pick.

 

[hines]

Rotoworld:

Chiefs RB Knile Davis rushed five times for 12 yards in Saturday's third preseason game, and also lost a fumble.

Davis' fumble was soft, but he redeemed himself just moments later with a 109-yard kick-return touchdown. Nevertheless, the cough up was an ominous sign for the KnownFumbler™ heading into the regular season. Locked in as Jamaal Charles' backup, the talented but inconsistent rookie has 20 carries for only 56 yards (2.8 YPC) through three preseason games.

as to low YPC, he lacks make-you-miss ability as RB...

but big time size/speed prospect... If he could have sustained the level at his best for 2-3 years and been clean medically, might have been a top 10-15 overall RB...

if it is blocked up right, or a defender gets out of position, he can take it to the house...

He really is like a bigger DMC.

Give him wide lanes and let him use his speed, and he looks like an All-Pro.

Force him to operate in tight quarters and he'll get you about 2 YPC.

I'm conflicted because I don't like his running style at all, but I also think he's criminally underrated in rookie drafts based on his draft slot. It's very rare to see a 3rd round rookie RB fall to the 3rd-4th round of rookie drafts. I had to take him in one league because it was pick 3.11, he was still out there, and I just couldn't justify passing.

I'm just hoping he'll bust a few long runs at some point so I can trade him for a high pick.

Knile Davis is nothing anywhere near Darren McFadden. I've watched every play of Razorback football for years, Davis runs soft, McFadden runs as strong as anyone, Davis has as bad a fumbling problem as any back in the league, McFadden doesn't. McFadden has a power stiff arm, Davis doesn't. Davis is fast and McFadden doesn't have many jukes but Davis has very little chance of ever making the impact McFadden has made in bursts. he had a good season for Arkansas because we had a very good line and an elite QB in Mallett with many great WRs so defenses sat back and left the run open. Dennis Johnson, our other RB at Arkansas, was orders of magnitude better clearly every year both were there

 

[EBF]

Knile Davis is nothing anywhere near Darren McFadden. I've watched every play of Razorback football for years, Davis runs soft, McFadden runs as strong as anyone,

Well, Davis has the potential to run with some power, if not the will. I would say McFadden is the opposite.

I think they share some similarities in terms of playing style and strengths/weaknesses. Both are long striders with great speed. Neither is very agile in tight spaces.

Dennis Johnson, our other RB at Arkansas, was orders of magnitude better clearly every year both were there

I like Johnson. I'm stashing him in a few leagues. He's much closer to the style of runner that I prefer. Compact and elusive. He's a bit smurfish, but could still be big enough to thrive. I've got an eye on the Texans RB3 battle and I think he'll beat out Wood and Graham when it's all said and done. His game performances have been less than convincing in limited duty, but that can change quickly tomorrow and next week.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Chiefs running backs coach Eric Bieniemy said he's pleased with Knile Davis' progress.
Davis is averaging just 1.5 touches per game over the last six weeks, but it's not that he's doing anything wrong. "I've got to do a better of getting Knile in the mix," Bieniemy said. "(But) it's hard to pull Jamaal off the field doing the things he's doing." Davis remains a solid lottery ticket stash because he'd see heavy volume if Charles were to miss time.

Source: Kansas City Star

 

[ShaHBucks]

Davis had a a few pretty nice touches vs Den. He almost scored on the drive CJ fumbled if not for Danny Travathan being such a sure tackler in space. This is the same way Andy developed Westbrook, McCoy and Bryce Brown. Jamaal Charles is just the greatest roadblock.

 

[gianmarco]

@ that return today.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Knile Davis is nothing anywhere near Darren McFadden. I've watched every play of Razorback football for years, Davis runs soft, McFadden runs as strong as anyone,

Well, Davis has the potential to run with some power, if not the will. I would say McFadden is the opposite.

I think they share some similarities in terms of playing style and strengths/weaknesses. Both are long striders with great speed. Neither is very agile in tight spaces.

Dennis Johnson, our other RB at Arkansas, was orders of magnitude better clearly every year both were there

I like Johnson. I'm stashing him in a few leagues. He's much closer to the style of runner that I prefer. Compact and elusive. He's a bit smurfish, but could still be big enough to thrive. I've got an eye on the Texans RB3 battle and I think he'll beat out Wood and Graham when it's all said and done. His game performances have been less than convincing in limited duty, but that can change quickly tomorrow and next week.

I can't find who made this last quote but they don't know what they are talking about. No doubt, his junior and senior year were a big disappointment/bust. He didn't look good, he was hurt and didn't look like he would regain the burst and confidence to cut like he did his sophomore year. We had very high hopes for Dennis Johnson, he did ok, not great, and not even good really ...

Davis had a fantastic sophomore year - so much so that the following year he was ranked very high in the preseason Heisman discussion.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Coach Andy Reid said the coaching staff is gaining more trust in Knile Davis.
"I just think it's a matter of reps under his belt and production," Reid said. "It's getting used to the NFL, protections in particular. I think everybody's got quite a bit of trust in him to go out there and do a good job." Davis was a fumbler at Arkansas, but hasn't lost a single one on 40 NFL touches so far. He's a must-own handcuff for Jamaal Charles owners heading into the final two weeks of the fantasy season.

Source: Kansas City Star

 

[iamkoza]

if denver wins Thursday night, would Reid dramatically reduce charles reps for this week? Chiefs are effectively 2 games behind Denver and are basically locked in to the 5 seed.... I dont see broncos losing to Texans and Raiders the last 2 weeks

 

[hines]

Knile Davis is nothing anywhere near Darren McFadden. I've watched every play of Razorback football for years, Davis runs soft, McFadden runs as strong as anyone,

Well, Davis has the potential to run with some power, if not the will. I would say McFadden is the opposite.

I think they share some similarities in terms of playing style and strengths/weaknesses. Both are long striders with great speed. Neither is very agile in tight spaces.

Dennis Johnson, our other RB at Arkansas, was orders of magnitude better clearly every year both were there

I like Johnson. I'm stashing him in a few leagues. He's much closer to the style of runner that I prefer. Compact and elusive. He's a bit smurfish, but could still be big enough to thrive. I've got an eye on the Texans RB3 battle and I think he'll beat out Wood and Graham when it's all said and done. His game performances have been less than convincing in limited duty, but that can change quickly tomorrow and next week.

I can't find who made this last quote but they don't know what they are talking about. No doubt, his junior and senior year were a big disappointment/bust. He didn't look good, he was hurt and didn't look like he would regain the burst and confidence to cut like he did his sophomore year. We had very high hopes for Dennis Johnson, he did ok, not great, and not even good really ...

Davis had a fantastic sophomore year - so much so that the following year he was ranked very high in the preseason Heisman discussion.

you must not have watched many Arkansas games. Johnson was by far the superior back during their two careers. Davis had the benefit his sophomore year of running behind Petrino's best line into defenses that always played the pass first due to Mallett's arm and the great WRs we had at the time. Davis has more tools (size and speed) but was never near Johnson in actual on-field skill. maybe the light has come on for him now, but he never stacked up to Johnson in college