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Mixon himself admitted to calling her "gay dude" friend a ######. http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/20/sport/joe-mixon-police-interrogation-video/#
Do you even understand what ad hominem is? Because I am not attacking you, I am attacking your position because I was under the impression that you had a double standard.
Knocking off your own sunglasses is clearly a sign of ableism. And the open palm slap to the neck that didn't turn his head in the slightest surely must have felt like a dude hit him, right? Because why would he lie?
Making a lot of assumptions here. For someone that relies on facts to base his opinions on, I'm surprised
Exactly. If she identified as a man in that instance then it's definitely not as egregious as we all initially find it to be. In fact, we'd be insulting her and feminism (or whatever ism we are offending) by saying a woman identifying as a man should be treated as a woman. Mixon treated her like he would have a man. He felt he was hit by one and responded as such. That explains his over-the-top response with a haymaker . Mixon may have just been behaving politically correct
Firstly, watching the video again, I was wrong about her calling him over. I stated that above. She should have let the situation die, as it appeared that it might. She shouldn't have hit him. She was wrong. I still think she was standing up of her friends who were clearly terrified of, and being bullied by Mixon. In that way, I don't think the was using it as a sword. But she let her anger get the best of her and she shouldn't have acted the way she did. Again, she did waive him over. The first few times I watched it, I thought he was there (just outside of the camera's view) the whole time. My bad--she was wrong for that.
If that's the standard to how hard it takes to "hit like a dude" then almost nobody hits like a dude. So, using your benchmark, he struck her like a girl because he likely doesn't hit like Mike Tyson. So their actions against each other can be seen as equal... using your definition of what it means to hit hard.
strawman arguments... you know you've made a good point when this is the response
Joe Mixon punches hard.
Again, how do you know this? How do you know that she doesn't have a brittle bone disease. Has Mixon ever struck you? Again, I think only Molitor and any other men or women that Mixon has assaulted would know how hard he hits. No one on here can comment with certainty on this. A comparison of his punches to the abilities of Tyson or McGregor is absolutely insane and it shows how far off the deep end you've jumped with this entire topic.
I stopped trying to have a serious conversation with you after your sarcastic sociopolitical tirade. Do you punch hard?
That's why I'm starting to think he'll definitely get drafted if he comes out. Many feel that if someone initiates physical contact they are opening themselves up to retaliation whether they are a man or woman.
My girlfriend saw the video and agreed. She didn't like what Mixon did and said it was brutal but then said the lady was stupid for hitting him in the first place. I'd be interested in hearing more women weighing in on this.
There is close to zero chance the NFL blackballs him. He made a horrible mistake 2.5 years ago as an 18 year old, but doesn't seem to have a history of violence outside of that one incident. If it was completely unprovoked and he initiated the assault might be different. Just can't see all 32 teams passing on him throughout the entire draft.
Oh boy... this thread again.... I thought we let this slip into the deep dark archives next to the David Wilson Bandwagon thread
Don't know, hoping for option #1 but right now I tend to think more likely option #2 and it kind of annoys me to be honest. He got punished and he'll likely get punished again on his rookie contract when he won't get picked as high as he normally would. But RB shelf life is not long and to put an extra wear and tear of a year on him and delay his possible chance after 4 years to hit FA by a year just so he can put a year distance between an event he did a few years ago seems dumb. I just feel like he's getting used, NFL trying to push him off another year so the optics of it might look better next season and OU gets another year out of a legit Heisman contender.
They aren't going to avoid him because of his risk of recurrance, they are going to avoid him because they don't want the negative attention from fans, press, and sponsors.
Hill didn't have video of him caving the girl's face in. That is going to be played all over the place leading up to the draft if Mixon declares. And if it doesn't, it's going to be played all over the place at OU. Do not underestimate mob mentality. Social media has waaaaaay too much power these days and zero filter to it. OU may not even want him back by the time it's all said and done.
Kind of a "control the narrative" type move, because it was getting out regardless. And at least this way it couldn't be painted as a nasty surprise.
18 years old is not a "kid". It's definitely old enough to know right from wrong. And I'd say about 10 years past the age you learn not to hit females.
Not getting into this again. Please read pages 1-6
Yep. Once they knew it was coming, you may as well get it out as soon as possible. Let it hit the fan ASAP and get it in the rear-view mirror ASAP. Now he's able to gauge the reaction and decide if he can declare now or if he needs to stay hidden in college another year. OU is a lot more likely to shield him because of the money involved. He would have no such advocates if he were at the combine and this dropped out of the blue.
I still see him as more like a 5th rounder but as many have said not really important.
