Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It's not like some one is going to run out and trade him away for peanuts based on this thread.
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Calvin Johnson to retire - CONFIRMED (2 Viewers)
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Spin
Footballguy
He was pretty upfront that it was a rumor his friend who works within the Lion's org told him. He shared it here, and said from the beginning, multiple times, his friend could be wrong and it was nothing but a rumor.
If you traded Calvin, or made any rash decisions, that's your own fault.
lod01
Footballguy
Ya know, he really did get dolled up this year.
He seemingly went straight from a $5 buzz cut to hiring a personal stylist.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Is Calvin retired yet?
Papa John's
Footballguy
I think he told them, fire Caldwell or else I'll retire. Then the Ford's looked at Calvin's cap number and said ... we were going to fire him but now we'll keep Caldwell.
That's the only thing that makes sense in the Lions recent decision making processes ... And this thread
That's the only thing that makes sense in the Lions recent decision making processes ... And this thread
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Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Did it happen yet?!
All kidding aside, even if he did retire, that wouldn't take away his cap hit, right? Doesn't it accelerate his signing bonus or something? I seem to remember this happening with someone a few years ago, though the specifics escape me.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Van Dyman
Footballguy
I wouldn't have noticed.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
So tomorrow are you going to change the thread title to: Calvin Johnson to retire yesterday
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Deamon
Footballguy
If you didn't read through the thread, that's fine. I changed the headline to "rumor", I didn't make it up as it came from someone within the Lions organization, and was adamant that it could be wrong and to not do anything crazy. I get the reason for the attacks, but it is/was an accurate source but I'm not sure what's up with it. Sorry if I offended anyone with the thread.
I have reached out for more info but haven't gotten a text back today. So maybe he was misinformed, or maybe it's going to happen later on. My apologies again if you didn't read through the thread and traded him away.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
Correct. The signing bonus is prorated over the life of the contract, any remaining balance hits the salary cap. If the cut/retirement happens before June 1st the entire amount hits in 2016. If the cut/retirement is after June 1st the Lions can split the hit between 2016 and 2017.
Deamon
Footballguy
It's not about being right or wrong. But yes, if he does shockingly retire tomorrow, or this offseason, then I'd say the guy who told me had the correct information. If he doesn't, then he was wrong. Just thought I'd pass the info along, but perhaps I shouldn't have.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
red stripe
Footballguy
This is pure speculation but I need to get it off my chest! 
One thing I want to add to this: I am completely disgusted with the Detroit media and how they've latched on to how "overpaid" Calvin is going to be next season and by virtue how he "might have played his last game with the Lions". As far as I can tell that's completely spun by the local yokel media guys around here. It's certainly not coming from the front office since ya know we don't really have one. I can't think of anything more disrespectful to a professional than calling them overpaid and asking if they'd be willing to take a pay cut. It's one thing if it comes from the team but from some dork with the Free Press it's got to be infuriating.
I could see where Calvin could be considering retirement just so he doesn't have to deal with it all any more.
One thing I want to add to this: I am completely disgusted with the Detroit media and how they've latched on to how "overpaid" Calvin is going to be next season and by virtue how he "might have played his last game with the Lions". As far as I can tell that's completely spun by the local yokel media guys around here. It's certainly not coming from the front office since ya know we don't really have one. I can't think of anything more disrespectful to a professional than calling them overpaid and asking if they'd be willing to take a pay cut. It's one thing if it comes from the team but from some dork with the Free Press it's got to be infuriating.
I could see where Calvin could be considering retirement just so he doesn't have to deal with it all any more.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Or LHUCKS stock timing thread.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
WTF you talking about? They are saying the same thing about Brees right now and every high paid player nearing the end of their career. Calvin is not special in this regard.This is pure speculation but I need to get it off my chest!
One thing I want to add to this: I am completely disgusted with the Detroit media and how they've latched on to how "overpaid" Calvin is going to be next season and by virtue how he "might have played his last game with the Lions". As far as I can tell that's completely spun by the local yokel media guys around here. It's certainly not coming from the front office since ya know we don't really have one. I can't think of anything more disrespectful to a professional than calling them overpaid and asking if they'd be willing to take a pay cut. It's one thing if it comes from the team but from some dork with the Free Press it's got to be infuriating.
I could see where Calvin could be considering retirement just so he doesn't have to deal with it all any more.
No waiting until June 1st anymore. You can release a player earlier and designate them as a June 1st cut. I think it was part of the new bargaining agreement so that vets didn't have to wait until after June 1st to be able to find a new team, which makes sense with mini-camps/OTAs in April and May.Dezbelief said:
Assuming that the source would have no real interest in lying, the most likely case is simply that Calvin changed his mind.
Easy to see how a frustrated player after a frustrating season might say something about quitting in an unguarded moment. Might even intend to do it, but then be talked out of it by teammates, coaches, etc. Maybe he just went home, had a good night's sleep and decided it was premature.
For that matter, he may come back and retire later in the offseason. Or wait to see whether the Lions actually keep their coach.
Nothing wrong with posting this initial report. Just too bad no one here has the sources to dig out what actually happened or didn't.
Easy to see how a frustrated player after a frustrating season might say something about quitting in an unguarded moment. Might even intend to do it, but then be talked out of it by teammates, coaches, etc. Maybe he just went home, had a good night's sleep and decided it was premature.
For that matter, he may come back and retire later in the offseason. Or wait to see whether the Lions actually keep their coach.
Nothing wrong with posting this initial report. Just too bad no one here has the sources to dig out what actually happened or didn't.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
As usual the SP is blowing a gasket over nothing. Someone overheard a rumor and wanted to share. Had it been correct or if Johnson is no longer a Lion next season for whatever reason then I think the OP was more than justified.
I say bring the rumors and we will decide if they are horsespit or not.
I'm MOP and I approve this message.
I say bring the rumors and we will decide if they are horsespit or not.
I'm MOP and I approve this message.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Is it tomorrow yet?!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Traded him for two future 2nds, I hope you're not wrong.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I just heard Calvin Klein might also retire.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Did he get his new tires yet?
Exactly. The crap flowing toward the OP is really ridiculous.
OPTION 1: post the rumor(s), and allow every person that reads them to make his/her own choice about how much credence to give it.
OPTION 2: post no rumors, and know just as little as your leaguemates that do nothing but glance at the ESPN scrawl.
I'll take option 1. Anyone that would prefer option 2 is in the wrong forum.
Papa John's
Footballguy
Hateful posts are never in order for anyone.
A little sarcastic ribbing is generally in good fun and part of the SharkPool. Isn't that what we all do over beers with friends? The best part of the SharkPool is sharing and ribbing with peers who share our crazy FF addiction.
Cheers!
A little sarcastic ribbing is generally in good fun and part of the SharkPool. Isn't that what we all do over beers with friends? The best part of the SharkPool is sharing and ribbing with peers who share our crazy FF addiction.
Cheers!
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Today is tomorrow, yesterday.
Local reporter with more speculation.
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/01/06/terry-foster-calvin-johnson-is-seriously-considering-retiring/?cid=twitter_971theticketxyt
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/01/06/terry-foster-calvin-johnson-is-seriously-considering-retiring/?cid=twitter_971theticketxyt
Dave Birkett @davebirkett
I've thought he & the Lions would work things out, but people who know him better than me think retirement possible https://twitter.com/bjam69/status/684810728344301568 …
12:59 PM - 6 Jan 2016
I've thought he & the Lions would work things out, but people who know him better than me think retirement possible https://twitter.com/bjam69/status/684810728344301568 …
12:59 PM - 6 Jan 2016
LAUNCH
Footballguy
@kmeinke Just talked to one ex-Lions player who has spoken with Calvin Johnson about retirement. Asked whether CJ would do it, got one word. "Yep."
https://twitter.com/kmeinke/status/684814112333901825
https://twitter.com/kmeinke/status/684814112333901825
