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Dynasty & Redraft: RB Terrance West, Ravens (1 Viewer)
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Faust
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Browns RBs Duke Johnson and Terrance West could miss a little time with hamstring and calf injuries:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/08/browns_rbs_duke_johnson_and_te.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/08/browns_rbs_duke_johnson_and_te.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Ummm not a West fan, clearly writing that up. On those numbers presented, how do you get West is worse than Crowell? Oy....
West is setting up to be the perfect guy for BB to give a late pick for, have success in NE, and us fans to question how he pulls stuff off like that.
jurb26
Footballguy
And look at what they write about Crowell who looked worse than West in this game. The bias is mind boggling.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
Neither looked good IMO. The difference is West dances and Crowell doesn't. Similar results.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
. #DawgPress@DawgPressNet 28m28 minutes ago
Breaking News: #Browns RB Terrence West on trading block. On his way to take a physical with undisclosed team.
Breaking News: #Browns RB Terrence West on trading block. On his way to take a physical with undisclosed team.
Ian RapoportVerified account@RapSheet
Texans for one RT @ConorOrr: Could get interesting if West isn’t cut: Browns have fielded offers on former 3rdrounder http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000523045/article/cleveland-browns-fielding-offers-for-terrance-west …
10:41 AM - 5 Sep 2015
Texans for one RT @ConorOrr: Could get interesting if West isn’t cut: Browns have fielded offers on former 3rdrounder http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000523045/article/cleveland-browns-fielding-offers-for-terrance-west …
10:41 AM - 5 Sep 2015
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Holding both him and Crowell hoping West ends up anywhere at all other than Cleveland. Plenty of teams could use "just a guy" with West's burst after contact.
cr8f
Footballguy
Heard Dallas say Cleveland was asking too much.
@AaronWilson_NFL
Browns preliminary trade discussions with Cowboys included talks about Terrance West, but no deal. Cleveland asked for too much, sources say
Faust
MVP
Titans acquire Terrance West; place David Cobb on IR
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000523516/article/titans-acquire-terrance-west-place-david-cobb-on-ir
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000523516/article/titans-acquire-terrance-west-place-david-cobb-on-ir
Biabreakable
Footballguy
What kind of team spends a 3rd round pick on a RB then trades that same player away after one season for a 7th round pick?
The Browns always take one step forward two steps back.
Somehow someway Crowell will be as good for as long as Germane.
Then the Duke will say "What is it now pilgrim....your conscience?"
http://www.quotes.net/quote/45255
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Don't sleep on Mostert. Not much is known about him. Tremendously raw, SPARQ freak.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
He was active but didn't receive a single offensive snap. Harbaugh did say Mostert could see more snaps moving forward, which makes sense since I don't think anyone believed Allen was going to completely monopolize the snaps/touches from here on out.
I liked what I saw from Mostert during preseason action so I think he's worth keeping an eye on. I'll be keeping closer tabs on him than West at least.
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Van Dyman
Footballguy
Sorry. I meant no offensive snaps. Funny thing crossed my mind. Flacco finished the game. If they just didn't trust Mostert to protect their franchise QB then, well, that's not a problem anymore!
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I agree it's bad he got no offensive snaps. I'm just saying if you have deep enough rosters to look at West then watch Mostert too. From what I can gather he has always primarily been a special teams guy. He was named "fastest in the Big 10" last year and has a sprinters background. I'm sure he's just learning the position and has only been with the Ravens for a little over a month. I'm curious and a bit excited to see what he could do if given shot. He could be Sproles/Lewis-esk or he could be another athlete that can't figure out the little things of the NFL. Unlike most guys that bounce around I think with him being so raw, landing on two active rosters after being cut in preseason is a good sign.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
I don't think Forsett is very expensive next year. If they cut him, it won't be for cap reasons.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
tone1oc
Footballguy
The Ravens have a projected ~5M in cap room for 2016. That's not a lot to resign players, & sign rookies and FA. The only players currently on their roster that could net them decent cap relief for 2016 without substantial dead money is Forsett. If Steve Smith does retire, that would save them 3M as well.
tone1oc
Footballguy
I'm not sure on that, I used overthecap.com which projects the cap at 150M in 2016.
ETA: A quick search on the net looks like that 150M is the correct expected cap number.
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The RBs are not the pricey part of the team. They could all stay, depends on Ozzie.ROYALWITCHEESE said:
They have 67 mil active and 49 mil on injured reserve.
Cursory look at their cap, I see some older guys that always is possible.
I guess Suggs hangs it up when he wants but torn achilles at his age has me leery.
Their Oline is expensive
IMO their D should have very few "safe" players especially their secondary which is pricey.
Ozzie knows what he's doing. I wouldn't be concerned
tone1oc
Footballguy
He's had consistent buzz everyday. Silva is speculating (and now rotoworld blurb) and I agree that Forsett could be cut, in favor of West as lead back. Not sure how the rest of the roster shakes out, but with all of the WR injuries they may need to carry more WRs and not have luxury of carrying 4 RBs. If that's the case, I think West has definitely played himself on to the team and they aren't going to cut the young guys.
I think they like Buck Allen on passing downs and Dixon is a complete wildcard with the knee issues and not getting any reps. I don't think the Ravens would view Dixon as someone they need to force out there because of draft capital invested. I say that because I believe the Ravens (Harbaugh/Newsome) do not play politics and would truly want the best player on the field, I know many teams pay that lip service but few actually subscribe to it. Looking back to 2014, it was Bernard Pierce who was the young RB who they acuired in the 3rd round of 2012 draft after moving up to get him. Most believed he was the next man up, but was outplayed by Forsett and then subsequently benched. This situation feels very similar to me.
I think that Terrance West is this year's Dion Lewis, the guy in a muddled backfield with a history of not living up to talent who breaks through and becomes a must start for owners. I'm all in!
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tone1oc
Footballguy
Nice.. My last waiver ran this morning, I was kind of waiting before I came hot with my West love. GL!
I doubt that. Evan used to be a regular here. I never follow his cause and reaction thoughts....never. He's excellent with researching stats and all, but whenever I think things through (as he did, reading the article) I disagree.tone1oc said:
You wrote of four RBs. That's fairly normal for an NFL team, without any cuts. Forsett caught 44 balls two years ago, 31 last year in 10 games. He's got hands to be the guy that comes in on third and the quality backup.
Most teams use two backs as the lead back during a season. Deangelo and Leveon. Cincy, Chargers, and the Browns use two all the time.
Cowboys added Alfred Morris as their feature back and then he became a backup on draft day. Titans added two.
Injuries, the rest of a play off, maybe a different style to em'....myriad of reasons to have two backs that are very good.
West was mouthy in Cleveland. They had good backs and didn't "straighten him out" like you'd probably expect would happen to a team's leading rusher. In Tennessee, I was thrown by his lack of use. Whisenhunt was horrible at developing young talent. IIRC He had a fumble, maybe a second, and was done. Tennessee was a different planet the last two years. The RB was not assured holes or any blocking whatsoever. Antonio Andrews has some beast to him and could take on defenders. He got hurt at the end of camp and once he returned from injury he took over. West looked fine, but like he was overwhelmed by the poor blocking. He should have been.
I would not have kept Cobb. He stunk in OTAs, didn't study in minicamp, looked good in a single game in preseason against third stringers and very ordinary against the ones, then he got hurt. When he was healthy, late, he did not play right away and step right in. In fact he got like a carry or two a game. They were so fortunate to get Cleveland's lead back. Nothing in here says "keep Cobb" other than their GM worried of losing his job. Cobb got in more and looked foolish a couple times. He whiffed on blocks and on two screen passes, he was behind Mariota where he couldn't see him. Andrews missed a key block and Mariota got hurt. Despite being the best blocker all year(or that it was a stupid play to have the RB take on the DL by himself) this was held against him and he barely played the last bit there. Mularkey showed some faith and kudos, Cobb did well in week 17. I was pleasantly surprised. Still though, when West was there, they had "no business" keeping Cobb over him. Same could be said for Sankey.
West has some spunk to him when he hits the OL. He's a different sort of back. You can tell he's prideful. He'll get zero yards or negative one, then has this fight to him that gets him six or seven yards. I'd like to see what he can without every yard having to be earned- with some good blockers for a change. I think he's only got one fight move to him every run. If he has to bust thru a line with no holes, he's not taking off. I'm not sure if I've seen him have a run over 20 yards. Over at PFR he had four runs over 20 yards with the Browns, none in year two. His longest run was 17 yards in year two. The Browns line two years ago wasn't horrible but they couldn't pass well.
West hasn't averaged 4+ypc yet. I'm totally willing to blame that on the lines or teams he's played for, but next year that'll be used against him if it doesn't change.
thatguythere
Footballguy
Is this guy not included in the subscriber contest or am I just missing him.
