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Having a year to learn the offense he should make a big leap.A healthy Jameson Williams.
Having a year to learn the offense he should make a big leap.A healthy Jameson Williams.
I can see him going to the Raiders for a year while they draft a young guy that can learn the system from Brady, who better to teach than him . Carr is gone ,mark my words, that marriage is over.Tom Brady: Again, Brady is a FA this offseason, and he (like lebron) is only going to go to a team that is a QB away from winning it all. So, teams that have a chance for his services (outside of resigning w tampa) are Miami (don't discount the stephen ross love affair w Brady), San Fran (I doubt this), Arizona, or back to Tampa.
In all of those cases he is going to have some really good WRs and barring the injury bug that hit Tampa this year, an O Line.
Fair.For the sake of accuracy, he just turned 28 (Born Dec 20, 1994)He's also about to turn 29, and hasn't played football in a while. I'd be a little concerned about the other mouths to feed - but I do think he'll be worth significantly more in 2023 than he was in 2022, so appropriate for this topic for sure.He's so head and shoulders better then anyone else they have I don't even remotely worry about the mouths to feed. He's going to explode.Ridley is a good call. My only concern if he makes it back both mentally and physically would be too many mouths to feed in that offense. Great for Trevor but not necessarily for Ridley’s fantasy value.Calvin Ridley
This is of course assuming his mental health is good and he is committed to football. If so, seems a perfect fit with Lawrence assending into top 10 QB range. I mean, look at how well Zay Jones has done this year and Ridley is way more talented. Plus, probably pretty cheap in drafts.
As an aside, if I were a Ridley shareholder, I would sell the second he steps on a field in 2023. I can't help but think there's another shoe to drop here - it was super suspicious at the time, and from his comments I didn't exactly get the impression that he thought he did anything wrong.
I picked him up and rostered him in both my keeper leagues and my contract dynasty (guy dropped him because he needed the contract years). I'm taking the opposite viewpoint and would be trying to trade for him since he is probably pretty cheap still. Elite route runner who should thrive with Lawrence in a Doug Peterson offense.
Not really worried about him being out the last year plus. Hopefully, he had time to contemplate how fortunate he is to get another chance to make millions playing a game and takes full advantage.
We shall see
Every Raider fan I know would instantly throw bricks through their televisions while screaming “TUCK RULE” until a vein popped.I can see him going to the Raiders for a year while they draft a young guy that can learn the system from Brady, who better to teach than him . Carr is gone ,mark my words, that marriage is over.Tom Brady: Again, Brady is a FA this offseason, and he (like lebron) is only going to go to a team that is a QB away from winning it all. So, teams that have a chance for his services (outside of resigning w tampa) are Miami (don't discount the stephen ross love affair w Brady), San Fran (I doubt this), Arizona, or back to Tampa.
In all of those cases he is going to have some really good WRs and barring the injury bug that hit Tampa this year, an O Line.
Other than @menobrown you mean?Not one mention of
Rachaad White ????
A lot of good calls a lot of you beat me to. Toney and especially Lance would have headed my list.
I'm not even going to list them out but I already can't wait till March to see how the FA market is going to go for RB's and the impact on so many players values. IMO nothing will have a bigger impact on off-season values then that FA RB movement. And along with that a few vets who could be released, like Fourneette, whose value would not soar but White's might. Some soaring values will be temporary, soon to be crushed by the draft but how both of those things go is going to change the landscape of the RB market more then any off-season in history, IMO.
i didnt read past the first sentence ,sorryOther than @menobrown you mean?Not one mention of
Rachaad White ????
Might wanna save some of those question marks for a rainy day there, chief.
A lot of good calls a lot of you beat me to. Toney and especially Lance would have headed my list.
I'm not even going to list them out but I already can't wait till March to see how the FA market is going to go for RB's and the impact on so many players values. IMO nothing will have a bigger impact on off-season values then that FA RB movement. And along with that a few vets who could be released, like Fourneette, whose value would not soar but White's might. Some soaring values will be temporary, soon to be crushed by the draft but how both of those things go is going to change the landscape of the RB market more then any off-season in history, IMO.
Tom might even be able to make McD appear competent.I can see him going to the Raiders for a year while they draft a young guy that can learn the system from Brady, who better to teach than him . Carr is gone ,mark my words, that marriage is over.Tom Brady: Again, Brady is a FA this offseason, and he (like lebron) is only going to go to a team that is a QB away from winning it all. So, teams that have a chance for his services (outside of resigning w tampa) are Miami (don't discount the stephen ross love affair w Brady), San Fran (I doubt this), Arizona, or back to Tampa.
In all of those cases he is going to have some really good WRs and barring the injury bug that hit Tampa this year, an O Line.
yeah. I think this all has the makings of occurring, especially as Miami now has a QB issue w Tua and Stephen Ross' hard on when it comes to Brady. Now, what does brady have left in the tank? Well, Hill and Waddle make a lot of short passes look like 60 yard bombs so if the king of ball placement can get them the ball where they need it then look out... Mike McD would love to have a TE like Gronk (vs Gesecki who has n place in this offense sadly)The scuttlebutt on this (as they were discussing it) was JE11 was too injured to play at the time he got hurt, but with time off may have recovered to the point he could try to play again. It's rumored that all three guys have already discussed going somewhere and playing together again.Brady is unlikely (also not sure he's enough of an upgrade for them to blow up the Tua experiment). Gronk is even less likely. But EDELMAN?!?!?!?They were just discussing this situation on Boston radio. They were hypothesizing that Brady, Gronk, and Edelman would all go to MIA on below market deals. That offense would be insane if they had anything still left in the tank.Tom Brady: Again, Brady is a FA this offseason, and he (like lebron) is only going to go to a team that is a QB away from winning it all. So, teams that have a chance for his services (outside of resigning w tampa) are Miami (don't discount the stephen ross love affair w Brady), San Fran (I doubt this), Arizona, or back to Tampa.
In all of those cases he is going to have some really good WRs and barring the injury bug that hit Tampa this year, an O Line.
Dude was washed two years ago. And it's not like Miami is desperate for WRs.
I get that it's Boston sports radio, but c'mon!
In 2020, Edleman had a game with 8 receptions for 180 yards with Cam Newton before he got hurt (and we all know Cam can barely throw these days). Gronk put up 55-800-6 in 12 games last year. Both guys could likely chip in more than the options MIA has been using this season. Their third receiving option, Trent Sherfield, has contributed 387 receiving yards this season. Edelman and Gronk likely are situational players that would contribute on a limited number of snaps, but they could certainly be open targets with defenses having to focus on Hill and Waddle.
I don't expect this to happen, but I don't think it is as crazy as it sounds.
Could be although I’d be concerned Zamir would be Michael Carter-ed.That said, there’s a White in Las Vegas whose value could jump if the Raiders decide they don’t want to pay Jacobs.
I roster him in my 16-team IDP - If Mattison moves on to greener pastures, he’s absolutely 1 hit away from exploding.Ty Chandler: Mattison may be moving on and Cook is getting up there in age. Chandler had some buzz in the preseason and could be among the best handcuffs to have in a great offense.
If I were a betting man, I would take the "implode" side of that equation. He's several years from being relevant AND there's no guarantee the league lets him back in next season. He was a Sell For Anything You Can Get when the suspension happened, but now he's merely a I Got Him For Free So HoldHe's so head and shoulders better then anyone else they have I don't even remotely worry about the mouths to feed. He's going to explode.Ridley is a good call. My only concern if he makes it back both mentally and physically would be too many mouths to feed in that offense. Great for Trevor but not necessarily for Ridley’s fantasy value.Calvin Ridley
This is of course assuming his mental health is good and he is committed to football. If so, seems a perfect fit with Lawrence assending into top 10 QB range. I mean, look at how well Zay Jones has done this year and Ridley is way more talented. Plus, probably pretty cheap in drafts.
The guy wins Super bowls and he even admitted it was a fumble , the fans, me included , want to win more than hold a grudgeEvery Raider fan I know would instantly throw bricks through their televisions while screaming “TUCK RULE” until a vein popped.I can see him going to the Raiders for a year while they draft a young guy that can learn the system from Brady, who better to teach than him . Carr is gone ,mark my words, that marriage is over.Tom Brady: Again, Brady is a FA this offseason, and he (like lebron) is only going to go to a team that is a QB away from winning it all. So, teams that have a chance for his services (outside of resigning w tampa) are Miami (don't discount the stephen ross love affair w Brady), San Fran (I doubt this), Arizona, or back to Tampa.
In all of those cases he is going to have some really good WRs and barring the injury bug that hit Tampa this year, an O Line.
Not sure how universal this would be across the fan base, but it would br 100% of the 8 dudes I know.
I think he’s absolutely worth taking a gamble on at a low cost. I’ve held on to him all year, wasting a roster spot along with OBJ.If I were a betting man, I would take the "implode" side of that equation. He's several years from being relevant AND there's no guarantee the league lets him back in next season. He was a Sell For Anything You Can Get when the suspension happened, but now he's merely a I Got Him For Free So HoldHe's so head and shoulders better then anyone else they have I don't even remotely worry about the mouths to feed. He's going to explode.Ridley is a good call. My only concern if he makes it back both mentally and physically would be too many mouths to feed in that offense. Great for Trevor but not necessarily for Ridley’s fantasy value.Calvin Ridley
This is of course assuming his mental health is good and he is committed to football. If so, seems a perfect fit with Lawrence assending into top 10 QB range. I mean, look at how well Zay Jones has done this year and Ridley is way more talented. Plus, probably pretty cheap in drafts.
I don't think Ross is on the radar in any way. I don't see him ever doing anything because of that injury.Crazy talk - Darnold and Baker might actually be worth something. Not an injury rebound but more than they were worth a few months ago.
Justyn Ross - had some hype but hasn’t done anything.
You don’t know my friends very well.the fans, me included , want to win more than hold a grudge
Maybe. I’ll burn an IR spot to find out.I don't think Ross is on the radar in any way. I don't see him every doing anything because of that injury.Crazy talk - Darnold and Baker might actually be worth something. Not an injury rebound but more than they were worth a few months ago.
Justyn Ross - had some hype but hasn’t done anything.
Hard to say - most mocks have the Texans taking Young, then a WR with their 2nd pick.Outside of this: Nico Collins may be a nice WR4 in draft capital that with the right QB could become a WR2 or 3.
Save it for the “bold predictions” topic, pal.Tom might even be able to make McD appear competent.I can see him going to the Raiders for a year while they draft a young guy that can learn the system from Brady, who better to teach than him . Carr is gone ,mark my words, that marriage is over.Tom Brady: Again, Brady is a FA this offseason, and he (like lebron) is only going to go to a team that is a QB away from winning it all. So, teams that have a chance for his services (outside of resigning w tampa) are Miami (don't discount the stephen ross love affair w Brady), San Fran (I doubt this), Arizona, or back to Tampa.
In all of those cases he is going to have some really good WRs and barring the injury bug that hit Tampa this year, an O Line.
I sold this previous off-season. Don't regret it in the least. Only thing I regret is not having done it sooner and getting more value.He's also about to turn 29, and hasn't played football in a while. I'd be a little concerned about the other mouths to feed - but I do think he'll be worth significantly more in 2023 than he was in 2022, so appropriate for this topic for sure.He's so head and shoulders better then anyone else they have I don't even remotely worry about the mouths to feed. He's going to explode.Ridley is a good call. My only concern if he makes it back both mentally and physically would be too many mouths to feed in that offense. Great for Trevor but not necessarily for Ridley’s fantasy value.Calvin Ridley
This is of course assuming his mental health is good and he is committed to football. If so, seems a perfect fit with Lawrence assending into top 10 QB range. I mean, look at how well Zay Jones has done this year and Ridley is way more talented. Plus, probably pretty cheap in drafts.
As an aside, if I were a Ridley shareholder, I would sell the second he steps on a field in 2023. I can't help but think there's another shoe to drop here - it was super suspicious at the time, and from his comments I didn't exactly get the impression that he thought he did anything wrong.
Love this take. I drafted Pickens in redraft. Watched him all year. He has superstar written all over him. Just needs a QB and scheme to break out. Canada getting fired would help make that happenI think if I was making a list that was not tied to FA I'd start with Lance and have Pickens next.
My comp for PIckens coming in was Dez Bryant. Dez did this in 12 games vs Pickens 15 but at this point in their rookie seasons their target load is almost dead equal.
Dez: 73/45/561/6
Pickens: 74/47/700/3
Not telling anyone here what they don't already know, that Pickens just needs to be more involved. I lived in the Dallas area when Dez was a rookie and I can recall people going nuts on sports radio that he was being under-utilized and Pickens has been even more under-utilized. I still believe strongly in the comp and fully expect PIckens role and ascension next season to grow.
oh i have friends like that as well lolYou don’t know my friends very well.the fans, me included , want to win more than hold a grudge
In that case, we have to get the obligatory Khalil Herbert mention in here, yes?Reading the thread title again I think some of us have been answering wrong. Seems like it's not asking which players performance will ascend next year but which players will see a value jump when no games are going.
In that sense it seems 90% of the names should be FA's, trade candidates or a player who a trade,release of another player or letting a player walk in FA would jump their value.
Otherwise seems all you got is off-season chatter which does change things. And Ridley was one that really fits because he's out of sight and mind to a lot of people.
I’m with Zado. Sure, as a Raiders fan, the words “tuck rule” make our blood boil and stomachs flip, but at this point in this sad franchise’s situation, if we’re moving on from Carr, I’d take a 1 year band aid of Brady while we look to draft a successor.The guy wins Super bowls and he even admitted it was a fumble , the fans, me included , want to win more than hold a grudge
If I were a betting man, I would take the "implode" side of that equation. He's several years from being relevant AND there's no guarantee the league lets him back in next season. He was a Sell For Anything You Can Get when the suspension happened, but now he's merely a I Got Him For Free So HoldHe's so head and shoulders better then anyone else they have I don't even remotely worry about the mouths to feed. He's going to explode.Ridley is a good call. My only concern if he makes it back both mentally and physically would be too many mouths to feed in that offense. Great for Trevor but not necessarily for Ridley’s fantasy value.Calvin Ridley
This is of course assuming his mental health is good and he is committed to football. If so, seems a perfect fit with Lawrence assending into top 10 QB range. I mean, look at how well Zay Jones has done this year and Ridley is way more talented. Plus, probably pretty cheap in drafts.
Honestly our grudge is with the NFL not Brady, he didnt make that rule call , the refs didI’m with Zado. Sure, as a Raiders fan, the words “tuck rule” make our blood boil and stomachs flip, but at this point in this sad franchise’s situation, if we’re moving on from Carr, I’d take a 1 year band aid of Brady while we look to draft a successor.The guy wins Super bowls and he even admitted it was a fumble , the fans, me included , want to win more than hold a grudge
Sure, if Montgomery signs somewhere else in 2023. He's a UFA.In that case, we have to get the obligatory Khalil Herbert mention in here, yes?Reading the thread title again I think some of us have been answering wrong. Seems like it's not asking which players performance will ascend next year but which players will see a value jump when no games are going.
In that sense it seems 90% of the names should be FA's, trade candidates or a player who a trade,release of another player or letting a player walk in FA would jump their value.
Otherwise seems all you got is off-season chatter which does change things. And Ridley was one that really fits because he's out of sight and mind to a lot of people.
How is his medicals?Metchie, maybe.
While the betting incident was definitey a "knucklehead" move, I don't think it was malicious. Not like he beat up somebody in a bar or rolled somebody on the street to steal their watch. I get the NFL had to hand out a punishment, but the year he got was kind of excessive when you consider other punishments that were less for more egregious acts (DeShawn Watson anyone).Fair.For the sake of accuracy, he just turned 28 (Born Dec 20, 1994)He's also about to turn 29, and hasn't played football in a while. I'd be a little concerned about the other mouths to feed - but I do think he'll be worth significantly more in 2023 than he was in 2022, so appropriate for this topic for sure.He's so head and shoulders better then anyone else they have I don't even remotely worry about the mouths to feed. He's going to explode.Ridley is a good call. My only concern if he makes it back both mentally and physically would be too many mouths to feed in that offense. Great for Trevor but not necessarily for Ridley’s fantasy value.Calvin Ridley
This is of course assuming his mental health is good and he is committed to football. If so, seems a perfect fit with Lawrence assending into top 10 QB range. I mean, look at how well Zay Jones has done this year and Ridley is way more talented. Plus, probably pretty cheap in drafts.
As an aside, if I were a Ridley shareholder, I would sell the second he steps on a field in 2023. I can't help but think there's another shoe to drop here - it was super suspicious at the time, and from his comments I didn't exactly get the impression that he thought he did anything wrong.
I picked him up and rostered him in both my keeper leagues and my contract dynasty (guy dropped him because he needed the contract years). I'm taking the opposite viewpoint and would be trying to trade for him since he is probably pretty cheap still. Elite route runner who should thrive with Lawrence in a Doug Peterson offense.
Not really worried about him being out the last year plus. Hopefully, he had time to contemplate how fortunate he is to get another chance to make millions playing a game and takes full advantage.
We shall see
Also fair is that NFL history is rife with knuckleheads who continue to be knuckleheads and do knuckleheaded things.
Exceedingly rare are the knucklehead redemption stories.
But it’s definitely possible that Ridley is the latter.
Can't find anything on it.How is his medicals?Metchie, maybe.
Ridley’s “crime” was worse than watsons by a factor of 100While the betting incident was definitey a "knucklehead" move, I don't think it was malicious. Not like he beat up somebody in a bar or rolled somebody on the street to steal their watch. I get the NFL had to hand out a punishment, but the year he got was kind of excessive when you consider other punishments that were less for more egregious acts (DeShawn Watson anyone).Fair.For the sake of accuracy, he just turned 28 (Born Dec 20, 1994)He's also about to turn 29, and hasn't played football in a while. I'd be a little concerned about the other mouths to feed - but I do think he'll be worth significantly more in 2023 than he was in 2022, so appropriate for this topic for sure.He's so head and shoulders better then anyone else they have I don't even remotely worry about the mouths to feed. He's going to explode.Ridley is a good call. My only concern if he makes it back both mentally and physically would be too many mouths to feed in that offense. Great for Trevor but not necessarily for Ridley’s fantasy value.Calvin Ridley
This is of course assuming his mental health is good and he is committed to football. If so, seems a perfect fit with Lawrence assending into top 10 QB range. I mean, look at how well Zay Jones has done this year and Ridley is way more talented. Plus, probably pretty cheap in drafts.
As an aside, if I were a Ridley shareholder, I would sell the second he steps on a field in 2023. I can't help but think there's another shoe to drop here - it was super suspicious at the time, and from his comments I didn't exactly get the impression that he thought he did anything wrong.
I picked him up and rostered him in both my keeper leagues and my contract dynasty (guy dropped him because he needed the contract years). I'm taking the opposite viewpoint and would be trying to trade for him since he is probably pretty cheap still. Elite route runner who should thrive with Lawrence in a Doug Peterson offense.
Not really worried about him being out the last year plus. Hopefully, he had time to contemplate how fortunate he is to get another chance to make millions playing a game and takes full advantage.
We shall see
Also fair is that NFL history is rife with knuckleheads who continue to be knuckleheads and do knuckleheaded things.
Exceedingly rare are the knucklehead redemption stories.
But it’s definitely possible that Ridley is the latter.
Good call - I was going to mention him along with the aforementioned Nico Collins. I think Cooks is gone, so one of these guys could ascend if they don’t draft a top tier rookie. Collins flashed for a bit earlier this year - wish we had seen more of him.Metchie, maybe.
Of course, but that’s the point of this thread - mainly for deep keeper/dynasty leagues. Guys you might be able to get at a discount now, but if they don’t pan out in the offseason, you move on.IMO, a lot of this type of discussion will lead to speculative adds that probably won't turn out as expected or hoped for.
My point exactly.Sure, if Montgomery signs somewhere else in 2023. He's a UFA.In that case, we have to get the obligatory Khalil Herbert mention in here, yes?Reading the thread title again I think some of us have been answering wrong. Seems like it's not asking which players performance will ascend next year but which players will see a value jump when no games are going.
In that sense it seems 90% of the names should be FA's, trade candidates or a player who a trade,release of another player or letting a player walk in FA would jump their value.
Otherwise seems all you got is off-season chatter which does change things. And Ridley was one that really fits because he's out of sight and mind to a lot of people.
He wasn't playing when he made the bets. But they did involve the Falcons games. I would agree with you 100 percent if he had played in the game.Ridley’s “crime” was worse than watsons by a factor of 100While the betting incident was definitey a "knucklehead" move, I don't think it was malicious. Not like he beat up somebody in a bar or rolled somebody on the street to steal their watch. I get the NFL had to hand out a punishment, but the year he got was kind of excessive when you consider other punishments that were less for more egregious acts (DeShawn Watson anyone).Fair.For the sake of accuracy, he just turned 28 (Born Dec 20, 1994)He's also about to turn 29, and hasn't played football in a while. I'd be a little concerned about the other mouths to feed - but I do think he'll be worth significantly more in 2023 than he was in 2022, so appropriate for this topic for sure.He's so head and shoulders better then anyone else they have I don't even remotely worry about the mouths to feed. He's going to explode.Ridley is a good call. My only concern if he makes it back both mentally and physically would be too many mouths to feed in that offense. Great for Trevor but not necessarily for Ridley’s fantasy value.Calvin Ridley
This is of course assuming his mental health is good and he is committed to football. If so, seems a perfect fit with Lawrence assending into top 10 QB range. I mean, look at how well Zay Jones has done this year and Ridley is way more talented. Plus, probably pretty cheap in drafts.
As an aside, if I were a Ridley shareholder, I would sell the second he steps on a field in 2023. I can't help but think there's another shoe to drop here - it was super suspicious at the time, and from his comments I didn't exactly get the impression that he thought he did anything wrong.
I picked him up and rostered him in both my keeper leagues and my contract dynasty (guy dropped him because he needed the contract years). I'm taking the opposite viewpoint and would be trying to trade for him since he is probably pretty cheap still. Elite route runner who should thrive with Lawrence in a Doug Peterson offense.
Not really worried about him being out the last year plus. Hopefully, he had time to contemplate how fortunate he is to get another chance to make millions playing a game and takes full advantage.
We shall see
Also fair is that NFL history is rife with knuckleheads who continue to be knuckleheads and do knuckleheaded things.
Exceedingly rare are the knucklehead redemption stories.
But it’s definitely possible that Ridley is the latter.
He gambled on a game in which he played.
It calls into question the integrity of every game in the sport, and IMO rather than being excessive, I’d say he was lucky to have not been banned for life.
Reasonable minds can disagree
Herbert seemed like he had more future potential upside before he got hurt. Seemed to be splitting with Montgomery, maybe even taking over. Now with Montgomery regaining control of the backfield, not sure if that is an indication that Eberflus has soured on Herbert and he may not be the heir apparent if Montgomery leaves.My point exactly.Sure, if Montgomery signs somewhere else in 2023. He's a UFA.In that case, we have to get the obligatory Khalil Herbert mention in here, yes?Reading the thread title again I think some of us have been answering wrong. Seems like it's not asking which players performance will ascend next year but which players will see a value jump when no games are going.
In that sense it seems 90% of the names should be FA's, trade candidates or a player who a trade,release of another player or letting a player walk in FA would jump their value.
Otherwise seems all you got is off-season chatter which does change things. And Ridley was one that really fits because he's out of sight and mind to a lot of people.
I'd say it's 50/50. Herbert isn't an UFA until 2025.Herbert seemed like he had more future potential upside before he got hurt. Seemed to be splitting with Montgomery, maybe even taking over. Now with Montgomery regaining control of the backfield, not sure if that is an indication that Eberflus has soured on Herbert and he may not be the heir apparent if Montgomery leaves.My point exactly.Sure, if Montgomery signs somewhere else in 2023. He's a UFA.In that case, we have to get the obligatory Khalil Herbert mention in here, yes?Reading the thread title again I think some of us have been answering wrong. Seems like it's not asking which players performance will ascend next year but which players will see a value jump when no games are going.
In that sense it seems 90% of the names should be FA's, trade candidates or a player who a trade,release of another player or letting a player walk in FA would jump their value.
Otherwise seems all you got is off-season chatter which does change things. And Ridley was one that really fits because he's out of sight and mind to a lot of people.
My gut sense is that Montgomery will find a lukewarm market for his services and re-signs with the Bears.
Yeah, well, I’m not totally sure I believe that. There was a video compilation going around at the time that showed him actively trying to not score on sure-fire TD receptions - some of them preposterously inexplicable.He wasn't playing when he made the bets. But they did involve the Falcons games. I would agree with you 100 percent if he had played in the game.Ridley’s “crime” was worse than watsons by a factor of 100While the betting incident was definitey a "knucklehead" move, I don't think it was malicious. Not like he beat up somebody in a bar or rolled somebody on the street to steal their watch. I get the NFL had to hand out a punishment, but the year he got was kind of excessive when you consider other punishments that were less for more egregious acts (DeShawn Watson anyone).Fair.For the sake of accuracy, he just turned 28 (Born Dec 20, 1994)He's also about to turn 29, and hasn't played football in a while. I'd be a little concerned about the other mouths to feed - but I do think he'll be worth significantly more in 2023 than he was in 2022, so appropriate for this topic for sure.He's so head and shoulders better then anyone else they have I don't even remotely worry about the mouths to feed. He's going to explode.Ridley is a good call. My only concern if he makes it back both mentally and physically would be too many mouths to feed in that offense. Great for Trevor but not necessarily for Ridley’s fantasy value.Calvin Ridley
This is of course assuming his mental health is good and he is committed to football. If so, seems a perfect fit with Lawrence assending into top 10 QB range. I mean, look at how well Zay Jones has done this year and Ridley is way more talented. Plus, probably pretty cheap in drafts.
As an aside, if I were a Ridley shareholder, I would sell the second he steps on a field in 2023. I can't help but think there's another shoe to drop here - it was super suspicious at the time, and from his comments I didn't exactly get the impression that he thought he did anything wrong.
I picked him up and rostered him in both my keeper leagues and my contract dynasty (guy dropped him because he needed the contract years). I'm taking the opposite viewpoint and would be trying to trade for him since he is probably pretty cheap still. Elite route runner who should thrive with Lawrence in a Doug Peterson offense.
Not really worried about him being out the last year plus. Hopefully, he had time to contemplate how fortunate he is to get another chance to make millions playing a game and takes full advantage.
We shall see
Also fair is that NFL history is rife with knuckleheads who continue to be knuckleheads and do knuckleheaded things.
Exceedingly rare are the knucklehead redemption stories.
But it’s definitely possible that Ridley is the latter.
He gambled on a game in which he played.
It calls into question the integrity of every game in the sport, and IMO rather than being excessive, I’d say he was lucky to have not been banned for life.
Reasonable minds can disagree
Ridley placed the bets during a period spanning Nov. 23-28, at a time when the receiver was away from the team on the non-football illness (NFI) list. He needed a break from football to focus on his mental well-being, he had written in an Oct. 31 statement.
Where have you been in 2022? The Colts OL has been horrible. Decent WRs? hmm......OK, decent with Pittman and I do believe Pierce will get better in 2023. The Colts are going to have to do some major improvements to the OL as far as pass blocking. They've gotten every QB killed this year and last year.some good calls in here. you're missing:
Deshaun Watson - he'll get his stuff together and start throwing darts again. A new coaching staff will do wonders. how can you keep the current staff in place?
The Colts, ladies and Gentlemen, The Colts are the team that would benefit from Brady or A. Rogers arrival. best o-line, decent WRs that a draft pick or two could improve, good RB. Get some competent coaching and a good QB and you're off to the races.
Wasn't the suspension "Indefinite, can apply for reinstatement after 1 year?"Yeah, well, I’m not totally sure I believe that. There was a video compilation going around at the time that showed him actively trying to not score on sure-fire TD receptions - some of them preposterously inexplicable.He wasn't playing when he made the bets. But they did involve the Falcons games. I would agree with you 100 percent if he had played in the game.Ridley’s “crime” was worse than watsons by a factor of 100While the betting incident was definitey a "knucklehead" move, I don't think it was malicious. Not like he beat up somebody in a bar or rolled somebody on the street to steal their watch. I get the NFL had to hand out a punishment, but the year he got was kind of excessive when you consider other punishments that were less for more egregious acts (DeShawn Watson anyone).Fair.For the sake of accuracy, he just turned 28 (Born Dec 20, 1994)He's also about to turn 29, and hasn't played football in a while. I'd be a little concerned about the other mouths to feed - but I do think he'll be worth significantly more in 2023 than he was in 2022, so appropriate for this topic for sure.He's so head and shoulders better then anyone else they have I don't even remotely worry about the mouths to feed. He's going to explode.Ridley is a good call. My only concern if he makes it back both mentally and physically would be too many mouths to feed in that offense. Great for Trevor but not necessarily for Ridley’s fantasy value.Calvin Ridley
This is of course assuming his mental health is good and he is committed to football. If so, seems a perfect fit with Lawrence assending into top 10 QB range. I mean, look at how well Zay Jones has done this year and Ridley is way more talented. Plus, probably pretty cheap in drafts.
As an aside, if I were a Ridley shareholder, I would sell the second he steps on a field in 2023. I can't help but think there's another shoe to drop here - it was super suspicious at the time, and from his comments I didn't exactly get the impression that he thought he did anything wrong.
I picked him up and rostered him in both my keeper leagues and my contract dynasty (guy dropped him because he needed the contract years). I'm taking the opposite viewpoint and would be trying to trade for him since he is probably pretty cheap still. Elite route runner who should thrive with Lawrence in a Doug Peterson offense.
Not really worried about him being out the last year plus. Hopefully, he had time to contemplate how fortunate he is to get another chance to make millions playing a game and takes full advantage.
We shall see
Also fair is that NFL history is rife with knuckleheads who continue to be knuckleheads and do knuckleheaded things.
Exceedingly rare are the knucklehead redemption stories.
But it’s definitely possible that Ridley is the latter.
He gambled on a game in which he played.
It calls into question the integrity of every game in the sport, and IMO rather than being excessive, I’d say he was lucky to have not been banned for life.
Reasonable minds can disagree
Ridley placed the bets during a period spanning Nov. 23-28, at a time when the receiver was away from the team on the non-football illness (NFI) list. He needed a break from football to focus on his mental well-being, he had written in an Oct. 31 statement.
I believe he was gambling on games he played in - the evidence on the field seemed extremely clear. IMO that’s why they dropped the hammer on him.
I also believe his mental issues may have been “consciousness of guilt” or “anxiety that he was about to be exposed”.
It would be in the NFL’s best interest to sweep truly damning stuff under the rug, too, so what’s in the official statements can maybe be taken with a grain of salt.
I’m the complete opposite of a conspiracy theorist - but watching that dude completely beat coverage downfield and then inexplicably run backwards into a tackle seemed sus at the time, and then when it came out later that he’d gambled suddenly it made sense.
We don’t have to re-litigate it here, but I thought he deserved harsher than 1 year.
Yes - that’s exactly what it was.Wasn't the suspension "Indefinite, can apply for reinstatement after 1 year?"Yeah, well, I’m not totally sure I believe that. There was a video compilation going around at the time that showed him actively trying to not score on sure-fire TD receptions - some of them preposterously inexplicable.He wasn't playing when he made the bets. But they did involve the Falcons games. I would agree with you 100 percent if he had played in the game.Ridley’s “crime” was worse than watsons by a factor of 100While the betting incident was definitey a "knucklehead" move, I don't think it was malicious. Not like he beat up somebody in a bar or rolled somebody on the street to steal their watch. I get the NFL had to hand out a punishment, but the year he got was kind of excessive when you consider other punishments that were less for more egregious acts (DeShawn Watson anyone).Fair.For the sake of accuracy, he just turned 28 (Born Dec 20, 1994)He's also about to turn 29, and hasn't played football in a while. I'd be a little concerned about the other mouths to feed - but I do think he'll be worth significantly more in 2023 than he was in 2022, so appropriate for this topic for sure.He's so head and shoulders better then anyone else they have I don't even remotely worry about the mouths to feed. He's going to explode.Ridley is a good call. My only concern if he makes it back both mentally and physically would be too many mouths to feed in that offense. Great for Trevor but not necessarily for Ridley’s fantasy value.Calvin Ridley
This is of course assuming his mental health is good and he is committed to football. If so, seems a perfect fit with Lawrence assending into top 10 QB range. I mean, look at how well Zay Jones has done this year and Ridley is way more talented. Plus, probably pretty cheap in drafts.
As an aside, if I were a Ridley shareholder, I would sell the second he steps on a field in 2023. I can't help but think there's another shoe to drop here - it was super suspicious at the time, and from his comments I didn't exactly get the impression that he thought he did anything wrong.
I picked him up and rostered him in both my keeper leagues and my contract dynasty (guy dropped him because he needed the contract years). I'm taking the opposite viewpoint and would be trying to trade for him since he is probably pretty cheap still. Elite route runner who should thrive with Lawrence in a Doug Peterson offense.
Not really worried about him being out the last year plus. Hopefully, he had time to contemplate how fortunate he is to get another chance to make millions playing a game and takes full advantage.
We shall see
Also fair is that NFL history is rife with knuckleheads who continue to be knuckleheads and do knuckleheaded things.
Exceedingly rare are the knucklehead redemption stories.
But it’s definitely possible that Ridley is the latter.
He gambled on a game in which he played.
It calls into question the integrity of every game in the sport, and IMO rather than being excessive, I’d say he was lucky to have not been banned for life.
Reasonable minds can disagree
Ridley placed the bets during a period spanning Nov. 23-28, at a time when the receiver was away from the team on the non-football illness (NFI) list. He needed a break from football to focus on his mental well-being, he had written in an Oct. 31 statement.
I believe he was gambling on games he played in - the evidence on the field seemed extremely clear. IMO that’s why they dropped the hammer on him.
I also believe his mental issues may have been “consciousness of guilt” or “anxiety that he was about to be exposed”.
It would be in the NFL’s best interest to sweep truly damning stuff under the rug, too, so what’s in the official statements can maybe be taken with a grain of salt.
I’m the complete opposite of a conspiracy theorist - but watching that dude completely beat coverage downfield and then inexplicably run backwards into a tackle seemed sus at the time, and then when it came out later that he’d gambled suddenly it made sense.
We don’t have to re-litigate it here, but I thought he deserved harsher than 1 year.
I feel like when it came out people were saying there was no guarantee he'd play again