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I still think Freeman gets a shot in ATL. They might share time, but I would hardly hand over the starting job to Coleman, yet.
Thinking you must be a long-time Freeman holder.I still think Freeman gets a shot in ATL. They might share time, but I would hardly hand over the starting job to Coleman, yet.
yeah, he sounds like the zac stacy owners last yearThinking you must be a long-time Freeman holder.I still think Freeman gets a shot in ATL. They might share time, but I would hardly hand over the starting job to Coleman, yet.
I'm not an owner and I don't plan to go after Coleman-just trying to be unbiased here but why would you draft a RB where they did if you thought at the end of the day that they would just continue with what they had? If you need depth, there are plenty of UDFA rbs out there. Heck, bring Pierre Thomas in or somebody that you KNOW very weel if you're that comfy with Freeman. So I think that indicates they are not and they spent a reasonably valuable pick to change that situation.
Good comp. Last year there was a lot of talk about how Mason couldn't block and this and that and it DID have an effect early. But, by the time the point comes when fantasy leagues are to be won or lost and going into the next season, Stacy was all but a forgotten player.yeah, he sounds like the zac stacy owners last yearThinking you must be a long-time Freeman holder.I still think Freeman gets a shot in ATL. They might share time, but I would hardly hand over the starting job to Coleman, yet.
I'm not an owner and I don't plan to go after Coleman-just trying to be unbiased here but why would you draft a RB where they did if you thought at the end of the day that they would just continue with what they had? If you need depth, there are plenty of UDFA rbs out there. Heck, bring Pierre Thomas in or somebody that you KNOW very weel if you're that comfy with Freeman. So I think that indicates they are not and they spent a reasonably valuable pick to change that situation.
RBBC maybe? Maybe they'll get each of them 150-200 carries. It's not like they spent a 1st round pick on Coleman. He went in the 3rd, Freeman was drafted in the 4th last year. Personally don't see either as anything great and certainly don't think either is a long term feature back.Thinking you must be a long-time Freeman holder. I'm not an owner and I don't plan to go after Coleman-just trying to be unbiased here but why would you draft a RB where they did if you thought at the end of the day that they would just continue with what they had? If you need depth, there are plenty of UDFA rbs out there. Heck, bring Pierre Thomas in or somebody that you KNOW very weel if you're that comfy with Freeman. So I think that indicates they are not and they spent a reasonably valuable pick to change that situation.I still think Freeman gets a shot in ATL. They might share time, but I would hardly hand over the starting job to Coleman, yet.
Yeah, I really don't see too much here that would make me think Coleman dominates carries. I think Kyle S. has shown flexibility to use it when you have it and don't sweat it when you don't. I guess it will depend if Coleman comes in and just takes the job by the throat. Who knows? But I'm sure he'll get an opportunity and if he isn't dominat, there should be a lot of situational ball being played with the RBS.RBBC maybe? Maybe they'll get each of them 150-200 carries. It's not like they spent a 1st round pick on Coleman. He went in the 3rd, Freeman was drafted in the 4th last year. Personally don't see either as anything great and certainly don't think either is a long term feature back.Thinking you must be a long-time Freeman holder. I'm not an owner and I don't plan to go after Coleman-just trying to be unbiased here but why would you draft a RB where they did if you thought at the end of the day that they would just continue with what they had? If you need depth, there are plenty of UDFA rbs out there. Heck, bring Pierre Thomas in or somebody that you KNOW very weel if you're that comfy with Freeman. So I think that indicates they are not and they spent a reasonably valuable pick to change that situation.I still think Freeman gets a shot in ATL. They might share time, but I would hardly hand over the starting job to Coleman, yet.
General manager Thomas Dimitroff said the team considered drafting Coleman in the second round but opted to address a defensive need with LSU cornerback Jalen Collins, a first-round talent who vowed to put three failed drug tests behind him.
I always wonder how much of statements like that are genuine and how much of them are back-handed ways of pumping themselves up like they got a steal.General manager Thomas Dimitroff said the team considered drafting Coleman in the second round but opted to address a defensive need with LSU cornerback Jalen Collins, a first-round talent who vowed to put three failed drug tests behind him.
I wouldn't take any media released statement at face value, but it's certainly plausible, in this case.I always wonder how much of statements like that are genuine and how much of them are back-handed ways of pumping themselves up like they got a steal.General manager Thomas Dimitroff said the team considered drafting Coleman in the second round but opted to address a defensive need with LSU cornerback Jalen Collins, a first-round talent who vowed to put three failed drug tests behind him.
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it could even be taken as a vote of confidence that they took coleman in the 3rd rather than another defensive player.Sources Tell Us "They all have holes, but Collins is what you are looking for in an NFL cornerback with his length and speed. He isn't there yet, but he has the traits and ability to become a high-end starter and maybe the best cornerback from this draft." -- NFC director of personnel
It will depend a lot on your owners drafting, but he's in play starting at 1.06. If those owners are the kind to fall in love with situation, this is one that could catch a fish.Not sure on actual adp yet, but I am expecting him to be more of a late first, 1.08-1.12 range.What's his ADP now in rookie drafts? I like the kid and Atlanta is a decent landing spot but I'm guessing he's an early 2nd now?
I wasn't one of them, but I saw a lot of people list Coleman as the No. 3 RB in their pre-draft rankings - so I wouldn't put it all on situation if he's drafted in that range.Hankmoody said:It will depend a lot on your owners drafting, but he's in play starting at 1.06. If those owners are the kind to fall in love with situation, this is one that could catch a fish.Not sure on actual adp yet, but I am expecting him to be more of a late first, 1.08-1.12 range.What's his ADP now in rookie drafts? I like the kid and Atlanta is a decent landing spot but I'm guessing he's an early 2nd now?
It seems like the smart thing to do would be to steer clear of RBs in round one after Gurley and Gordon are off the board, but it will be very hard to resist Coleman and Yeldon for RB needy teams like myself.Hankmoody said:It will depend a lot on your owners drafting, but he's in play starting at 1.06. If those owners are the kind to fall in love with situation, this is one that could catch a fish.
Agreed. Dude doesn't run patiently. Gets ball, makes quick twitch, and then shoots straight up field. If his own lineman is in the way, so be it. It's like his peripheral vision is 10 yards across. I recall the disaster that was D-Mac in Oakland when they tried to install the ZBS. Didn't fit his game at all.The zone scheme requires patience and can be tough for speedy guys that don't know how to give it time to set up... It could be good, but I don't know if Coleman has that kind of patience at the moment.ETA: I don't know if this is really a match made in heaven... I'm skeptical he's the right kind of back for Shanny. They should have went for Yeldon early or David Johnson, or even Duke Johnson seems like a better fit IMO.That was last year.
This year lil shanny will install that zbs that makes forsett look like Adrian peterson
Yea but that article was wrote in 2013 and they changed the scheme back to a power running scheme and DMC went for 3.3 and 3.4 YPC. Not of the opinion his struggles had to do with the scheme.Agreed. Dude doesn't run patiently. Gets ball, makes quick twitch, and then shoots straight up field. If his own lineman is in the way, so be it. It's like his peripheral vision is 10 yards across. I recall the disaster that was D-Mac in Oakland when they tried to install the ZBS. Didn't fit his game at all.The zone scheme requires patience and can be tough for speedy guys that don't know how to give it time to set up... It could be good, but I don't know if Coleman has that kind of patience at the moment.ETA: I don't know if this is really a match made in heaven... I'm skeptical he's the right kind of back for Shanny. They should have went for Yeldon early or David Johnson, or even Duke Johnson seems like a better fit IMO.That was last year.
This year lil shanny will install that zbs that makes forsett look like Adrian peterson
Coincidentally, here's an article explaining the issue:
"For all McFadden’s athleticism — almost anyone would tell you he’s one of the most naturally-gifted athletes to come into the NFL since the dawn of the 21st century — he’s never had the patience for a zone-blocking scheme. In the ZBS, runners follow linemen. They wait for their blockers to move the pile laterally, creating running lanes for patient runners to exploit. They go left and right before going north and south.
That’s just not McFadden’s style, who for all his athletic prowess prefers to operate like a true power back, seeing the hole and hitting the hole. DMC likes to make one cut and get up field. He doesn’t like to read blocks. It’s this interfusion of aggression, power and athleticism that led him to an elite 5.3 yards per carry the two years Hue Jackson was employing a power-blocking scheme and calling the Raiders’ plays.
McFadden confirmed as much in an interview earlier this month. "I am the type of guy who likes to go downhill,make a cut and go; that's my thing," McFadden said as he explained his struggles in the ZBS. Why the Raiders didn’t heed this obvious truth last season will remain a mystery forever more."
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/43031/352/what-went-wrong-mcfadden
Here's the thing about Coleman - he's built like Demarco Murray but runs stiff like McFadden.Obviously it was kinda of lost on people that Coleman measured in at the combine at 5'11" 206 lbs rather than 6'1" 206 lbs. That makes him closer to Lesean McCoy size than Darren Mcfadden but feel free to continue to knock him for his stature.
And his legs really look like twigs here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zsr_FBvEdE I am surprised he doesn't just tip over - right?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution projects Tevin Coleman as 1A on the depth chart and Devona Freeman as 1B.
Coleman, the third-round rookie out of Indiana, brings superior physical skills to the table. The diminutive Freeman will remain in the mix as a change-of-pace option and potential third-down back. And homerun hitter Antone Smith also figures to get some chances as well. But as long as Coleman keeps his nose in front of this committee, he'll have serious upside thanks in large part to the presence of run-game guru Kyle Shanahan.
Related: Devonta Freeman
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution
May 5 - 9:21 AM
For dynasty purposes, Antone Smith turns 30 this year, so shouldn't be a long term obstacle.For certain RBBC. Freeman gets a shot for sure. The also have A. Smith back who was lethal last season. The whole running game goes up a couple notches with the newly installed zone blocking and more qb play action if the Oline can stay healthy after 2 years of unusual injuriy bugs.
Ive seen the 5th round pick thrown around a couple times with regard to Freeman. Not that its all that important, but in the interest of accuracy he was a 4th round pick. I was pretty sure this was the case, but confirmed it with a Wikipedia search:Bob Magaw said:For dynasty purposes, Antone Smith turns 30 this year, so shouldn't be a long term obstacle.texasbirdfan said:For certain RBBC. Freeman gets a shot for sure. The also have A. Smith back who was lethal last season. The whole running game goes up a couple notches with the newly installed zone blocking and more qb play action if the Oline can stay healthy after 2 years of unusual injuriy bugs.
I think Coleman could be seriously underrated. Just got caught up on the thread in the past few minutes.
1 - How many yards would he have had in Wisconsin?
2 - If he had blown scouts away at the combine (say, been the only one to run a sub-4.5?), might have gone higher.
3 - Played with a broken foot last year (final 1,200 yards?), tough, plays through pain.
4 - As noted upthread (Dr. Octopus?), Freeman was a fifth rounder picked by the old HC - though same GM.
5 - Shanahan is the new OC, he has turned other RBs into stars that may not have been as talented as Coleman.
6 - Will he ever see stacked boxes, on the same team with Ryan, Julio and White?
7 - Some may be laying off due to concern about Freeman (misplaced, imo), murky situations always tend to drive value down in early drafts, which can be exploited - if he beats out Freeman for lead back role, his value could surge closer to the start of the season.
Names like McFadden (ubiquitous comp) and Murray have been thrown around, but a more old school one I liked was Robert Smith. Though physical stature-wise, Smith was a lanky 6'2", 210 lbs., Coleman a thicker, stockier 5'11", 206 lbs. Smith had elite speed (Ohio State sprinter?), also an upright running style and a checkered medical file in the NFL.
Coleman had nearly 170 rushing yards per game, was fourth fastest to 2,000 yards in FBS/Div 1 history (264 carries) and his average TD distance (15 scores) was a ridiculous 40+ yards. Home run hitter that may be a little bigger and stronger than given credit for (he is narrow waisted and has a somewhat thin lower body, a concern, not sure lateral agility, contact balance or tackle breaking ability will ever be strengths - somewhat straightlinish, so I can see the McFadden comparisons there, along with the upright running style, which could always make him more vulnerable to injury, presenting a bigger target to defenders), some scouts think he is a functional receiver out of the backfield, with pass pro ability that could have three down, feature RB ability.
* Just got him at 1.13, as the fifth RB taken (also after Abdullah as well as Yeldon), and consider myself fortunate.
** What if (BIG IF) he could be a McFadden-like talent but more resilient with less injuries, or at least able to play through them at a higher level - how valuable would McFadden have been, as a healthier iteration in some parallel fantasy football universe? I see him as better than former Falcon Jerious Norwood (point taken he had a great Y/C average), though they have near identical triangle numbers (height/weight/40 time), physical stature and same third round pedigree. Norwood was always a complementary RB, and I don't think ever got a shot at being a feature RB, which it looks like Coleman might.
He was hurt at the combine.Do you think it's a red flag Tevin Coleman never did the 3 cone, vert, and broad jump? I"m looking at the top RBs now and past and almost ALL of them performed these drills at the combine.
underrated my behind, lol. He's way overrated.ILUVBEER99 said:Very under-rated RB. He does run a bit high but is very tough through the hole and once he sees daylight goodbye.
This is a tough RB who can break off long runs like they're nothing. Probably not a 300 carry type guy, but can handle 225-270 with a high YPC.
got him as the 4th RB in the class behind Gurley/Gordon/Yeldon.
Could you elaborate, expand on that?underrated my behind, lol. He's way overrated.ILUVBEER99 said:Very under-rated RB. He does run a bit high but is very tough through the hole and once he sees daylight goodbye.
This is a tough RB who can break off long runs like they're nothing. Probably not a 300 carry type guy, but can handle 225-270 with a high YPC.
got him as the 4th RB in the class behind Gurley/Gordon/Yeldon.
He's being taken ahead of Abdullah and Ajayi in most leagues and head of Yeldon in some, so I don't think he's being underrated at all.Could you elaborate, expand on that?underrated my behind, lol. He's way overrated.ILUVBEER99 said:Very under-rated RB. He does run a bit high but is very tough through the hole and once he sees daylight goodbye.
This is a tough RB who can break off long runs like they're nothing. Probably not a 300 carry type guy, but can handle 225-270 with a high YPC.
got him as the 4th RB in the class behind Gurley/Gordon/Yeldon.
So does that make him overrated then? If so, where should he slot in?He's being taken ahead of Abdullah and Ajayi in most leagues and head of Yeldon in some, so I don't think he's being underrated at all.Could you elaborate, expand on that?underrated my behind, lol. He's way overrated.ILUVBEER99 said:Very under-rated RB. He does run a bit high but is very tough through the hole and once he sees daylight goodbye.
This is a tough RB who can break off long runs like they're nothing. Probably not a 300 carry type guy, but can handle 225-270 with a high YPC.
got him as the 4th RB in the class behind Gurley/Gordon/Yeldon.
Bia, while that's interesting stuff, I'm just not sure how to value it. I might be misremembering, but it seems last year's draft was on the whole, a lot stronger than this year's. At least a few players who were drafted last year would likely have gone higher in this year's draft. It's entirely possible that Freeman would have gone in the 3rd this year.In regards to the draft position comparison between Tevin Coleman and Devonta Freeman.
2014 draft
2 54 TEN Bishop Sankey RB 22
2 55 CIN Jeremy Hill RB 21
2 57 SFO Carlos Hyde RB 24
3 69 TAM Charles Sims RB 24
3 75 STL Tre Mason RB 21
3 94 CLE Terrance West RB 23
3 96 MIN Jerick McKinnon RB 22
4 103 ATL Devonta Freeman RB 22
4 113 NYG Andre Williams RB 22
4 117 CHI Ka'Deem Carey RB 21
4 124 KAN De'Anthony Thomas 21
4 130 NWE James White RB 23
4 138 BAL Lorenzo Taliaferro 22
6 181 HOU Alfred Blue RB 23
6 186 WAS Lache Seastrunk RB 23
6 201 SDG Marion Grice RB 23
6 204 CAR Tyler Gaffney RB 23
7 222 JAX Storm Johnson RB 22
7 227 SEA Kiero Small RB 25
Freeman was the 8th RB selected. He was the first RB selected in the fourth round.
He was picked 9 spots after Terrance West and 7 spots after Jerrick McKinnon.
Andre Williams was picked 10 spots after Freeman so he is about as close to West/McKinnon in draft position as he was to Williams.
1 10 STL Todd Gurley RB 21
1 15 SDG Melvin Gordon RB 22
2 36 JAX T.J. Yeldon RB 21
2 54 DET Ameer Abdullah RB 22
3 73 ATL Tevin Coleman RB 22
3 77 CLE Duke Johnson RB 21
3 86 ARI David Johnson RB 23
3 95 WAS Matt Jones RB
4 106 CHI Jeremy Langford RB 23
4 125 BAL Javorius Allen RB 24
4 126 SFO Mike Davis RB 22
5 138 TEN David Cobb RB 22
5 149 MIA Jay Ajayi RB 21
5 155 BUF Karlos Williams RB 22
5 174 CAR Cameron Artis-Payne 23
6 205 IND Josh Robinson RB 23
7 230 NOR Marcus Murphy RB
7 235 HOU Kenny Hilliard RB 23
Coleeman was the fifth RB selected. He was the first RB selected in the third round.
He was picked 19 spots after Ameer Abdullah.
Duke Johnson was picked four spots after Coleeman. David Johnson was picked 13 spots after Coleman so he is as closer to the two Johnsons in draft position as he was to Ameer Abdullah.
If we combine draft position of the two draft classes:
1 10 STL Todd Gurley RB 21
1 15 SDG Melvin Gordon RB 22
2 36 JAX T.J. Yeldon RB 21
2 54 DET Ameer Abdullah RB 22
2 54 TEN Bishop Sankey RB 22
2 55 CIN Jeremy Hill RB 21
2 57 SFO Carlos Hyde RB 24
3 69 TAM Charles Sims RB 24
3 73 ATL Tevin Coleman RB 22
3 75 STL Tre Mason RB 21
3 77 CLE Duke Johnson RB 21
3 86 ARI David Johnson RB 23
3 94 CLE Terrance West RB 23
3 95 WAS Matt Jones RB
3 96 MIN Jerick McKinnon RB 22
4 103 ATL Devonta Freeman RB 22
4 106 CHI Jeremy Langford RB 23
4 113 NYG Andre Williams RB 22
4 117 CHI Ka'Deem Carey RB 21
4 124 KAN De'Anthony Thomas 21
4 125 BAL Javorius Allen RB 24
4 126 SFO Mike Davis RB 22
4 130 NWE James White RB 23
4 138 BAL Lorenzo Taliaferro 22
5 138 TEN David Cobb RB 22
5 149 MIA Jay Ajayi RB 21
5 155 BUF Karlos Williams RB 22
5 174 CAR Cameron Artis-Payne 23
6 181 HOU Alfred Blue RB 23
6 186 WAS Lache Seastrunk RB 23
6 201 SDG Marion Grice RB 23
6 204 CAR Tyler Gaffney RB 23
6 205 IND Josh Robinson RB 23
7 222 JAX Storm Johnson RB 22
7 227 SEA Kiero Small RB 25
Tevin Coleman is sandwiched between Chales Sims and Tre Mason. Freeman between Jerrick McKinnon and Jeremy Langford.
Here are all of the RB drafted from 1989-2014 who were picked within 10 picks before or after pick 73 where Coleman was drafted:
Brandon Jackson
Jay Graham
Kevin Smith
Detron Smith
James Jackson
Frank Gore
Shonn Greene
Ronnie Hillman
Skip Hicks
Charles Sims
Elroy Harris
Duce Staley
Lorenzo Booker
DeMarco Murray
Tevin Coleman
Russell White
Lamar Smith
Winslow Oliver
Vernand Morency
Jamaal Charles
Stevan Ridley
Curtis Martin HOF
Brian Calhoun
Glen Coffee
Moe Williams
Tre Mason
Robert Drummond
Ricky Ervins
Ahman Green
J.R. Redmond
Musa Smith
Ryan Moats
Terry Kirby
Jerious Norwood
Robert Wilson
Calvin Jones
Karim Abdul-Jabbar
Kevan Barlow
Chris Floyd
Reuben Droughns
James Bostic
Jerald Moore
Here are all of the RB drafted from 1989-2014 who were picked within 10 picks before or after pick 103 where Devonta Freeman was drafted:
Lewis Tillman
Chris Brown
Garrett Wolfe
Derrick Lassic
Terrance West
Gary Downs
Michael Pittman
Amos Zereoue
Alex Green
Knile Davis
Jerick McKinnon
Curvin Richards
Curtis Keaton
Lamar Miller
Dri Archer
Jonathan Wells
Artose Pinner
Eddie Fuller
Rudi Johnson
Michael Bush
Tavian Banks
Domanick Williams
Maurice Clarett
Stephen Davis
Edgar Bennett
Larry Jones
Ricky Whittle
Sedrick Irvin
Devonta Freeman
Aaron Hayden
Leon Johnson
Darnell Autry
Onterrio Smith
Roy Helu
Robert Turbin
Antonio Pittman
George Layne
Quentin Griffin
Derek Brown
Marion Barber
Brandon Jacobs
Dwayne Wright
Mike Goodson
Jon Vaughn
Sean Bennett
Ciatrick Fason
Joe McKnight
Maury Toy
Andre Williams
In regards to the draft position comparison between Tevin Coleman and Devonta Freeman.
2014 draft
2 54 TEN Bishop Sankey RB 22
2 55 CIN Jeremy Hill RB 21
2 57 SFO Carlos Hyde RB 24
3 69 TAM Charles Sims RB 24
3 75 STL Tre Mason RB 21
3 94 CLE Terrance West RB 23
3 96 MIN Jerick McKinnon RB 22
4 103 ATL Devonta Freeman RB 22
4 113 NYG Andre Williams RB 22
4 117 CHI Ka'Deem Carey RB 21
4 124 KAN De'Anthony Thomas 21
4 130 NWE James White RB 23
4 138 BAL Lorenzo Taliaferro 22
6 181 HOU Alfred Blue RB 23
6 186 WAS Lache Seastrunk RB 23
6 201 SDG Marion Grice RB 23
6 204 CAR Tyler Gaffney RB 23
7 222 JAX Storm Johnson RB 22
7 227 SEA Kiero Small RB 25
Freeman was the 8th RB selected. He was the first RB selected in the fourth round.
He was picked 9 spots after Terrance West and 7 spots after Jerrick McKinnon.
Andre Williams was picked 10 spots after Freeman so he is about as close to West/McKinnon in draft position as he was to Williams.
1 10 STL Todd Gurley RB 21
1 15 SDG Melvin Gordon RB 22
2 36 JAX T.J. Yeldon RB 21
2 54 DET Ameer Abdullah RB 22
3 73 ATL Tevin Coleman RB 22
3 77 CLE Duke Johnson RB 21
3 86 ARI David Johnson RB 23
3 95 WAS Matt Jones RB
4 106 CHI Jeremy Langford RB 23
4 125 BAL Javorius Allen RB 24
4 126 SFO Mike Davis RB 22
5 138 TEN David Cobb RB 22
5 149 MIA Jay Ajayi RB 21
5 155 BUF Karlos Williams RB 22
5 174 CAR Cameron Artis-Payne 23
6 205 IND Josh Robinson RB 23
7 230 NOR Marcus Murphy RB
7 235 HOU Kenny Hilliard RB 23
Coleeman was the fifth RB selected. He was the first RB selected in the third round.
He was picked 19 spots after Ameer Abdullah.
Duke Johnson was picked four spots after Coleeman. David Johnson was picked 13 spots after Coleman so he is as closer to the two Johnsons in draft position as he was to Ameer Abdullah.
If we combine draft position of the two draft classes:
1 10 STL Todd Gurley RB 21
1 15 SDG Melvin Gordon RB 22
2 36 JAX T.J. Yeldon RB 21
2 54 DET Ameer Abdullah RB 22
2 54 TEN Bishop Sankey RB 22
2 55 CIN Jeremy Hill RB 21
2 57 SFO Carlos Hyde RB 24
3 69 TAM Charles Sims RB 24
3 73 ATL Tevin Coleman RB 22
3 75 STL Tre Mason RB 21
3 77 CLE Duke Johnson RB 21
3 86 ARI David Johnson RB 23
3 94 CLE Terrance West RB 23
3 95 WAS Matt Jones RB
3 96 MIN Jerick McKinnon RB 22
4 103 ATL Devonta Freeman RB 22
4 106 CHI Jeremy Langford RB 23
4 113 NYG Andre Williams RB 22
4 117 CHI Ka'Deem Carey RB 21
4 124 KAN De'Anthony Thomas 21
4 125 BAL Javorius Allen RB 24
4 126 SFO Mike Davis RB 22
4 130 NWE James White RB 23
4 138 BAL Lorenzo Taliaferro 22
5 138 TEN David Cobb RB 22
5 149 MIA Jay Ajayi RB 21
5 155 BUF Karlos Williams RB 22
5 174 CAR Cameron Artis-Payne 23
6 181 HOU Alfred Blue RB 23
6 186 WAS Lache Seastrunk RB 23
6 201 SDG Marion Grice RB 23
6 204 CAR Tyler Gaffney RB 23
6 205 IND Josh Robinson RB 23
7 222 JAX Storm Johnson RB 22
7 227 SEA Kiero Small RB 25
Tevin Coleman is sandwiched between Chales Sims and Tre Mason. Freeman between Jerrick McKinnon and Jeremy Langford.
Here are all of the RB drafted from 1989-2014 who were picked within 10 picks before or after pick 73 where Coleman was drafted:
Brandon Jackson
Jay Graham
Kevin Smith
Detron Smith
James Jackson
Frank Gore
Shonn Greene
Ronnie Hillman
Skip Hicks
Charles Sims
Elroy Harris
Duce Staley
Lorenzo Booker
DeMarco Murray
Tevin Coleman
Russell White
Lamar Smith
Winslow Oliver
Vernand Morency
Jamaal Charles
Stevan Ridley
Curtis Martin HOF
Brian Calhoun
Glen Coffee
Moe Williams
Tre Mason
Robert Drummond
Ricky Ervins
Ahman Green
J.R. Redmond
Musa Smith
Ryan Moats
Terry Kirby
Jerious Norwood
Robert Wilson
Calvin Jones
Karim Abdul-Jabbar
Kevan Barlow
Chris Floyd
Reuben Droughns
James Bostic
Jerald Moore
Here are all of the RB drafted from 1989-2014 who were picked within 10 picks before or after pick 103 where Devonta Freeman was drafted:
Lewis Tillman
Chris Brown
Garrett Wolfe
Derrick Lassic
Terrance West
Gary Downs
Michael Pittman
Amos Zereoue
Alex Green
Knile Davis
Jerick McKinnon
Curvin Richards
Curtis Keaton
Lamar Miller
Dri Archer
Jonathan Wells
Artose Pinner
Eddie Fuller
Rudi Johnson
Michael Bush
Tavian Banks
Domanick Williams
Maurice Clarett
Stephen Davis
Edgar Bennett
Larry Jones
Ricky Whittle
Sedrick Irvin
Devonta Freeman
Aaron Hayden
Leon Johnson
Darnell Autry
Onterrio Smith
Roy Helu
Robert Turbin
Antonio Pittman
George Layne
Quentin Griffin
Derek Brown
Marion Barber
Brandon Jacobs
Dwayne Wright
Mike Goodson
Jon Vaughn
Sean Bennett
Ciatrick Fason
Joe McKnight
Maury Toy
Andre Williams
he likes ameer abdullah betterCould you elaborate, expand on that?underrated my behind, lol. He's way overrated.ILUVBEER99 said:Very under-rated RB. He does run a bit high but is very tough through the hole and once he sees daylight goodbye.
This is a tough RB who can break off long runs like they're nothing. Probably not a 300 carry type guy, but can handle 225-270 with a high YPC.
got him as the 4th RB in the class behind Gurley/Gordon/Yeldon.
I noticed later you already answered with something more substantive than my behind above, or I wouldn't have asked.He's being taken ahead of Abdullah and Ajayi in most leagues and head of Yeldon in some, so I don't think he's being underrated at all.Could you elaborate, expand on that?underrated my behind, lol. He's way overrated.ILUVBEER99 said:Very under-rated RB. He does run a bit high but is very tough through the hole and once he sees daylight goodbye.
This is a tough RB who can break off long runs like they're nothing. Probably not a 300 carry type guy, but can handle 225-270 with a high YPC.
got him as the 4th RB in the class behind Gurley/Gordon/Yeldon.
Freudian slip or autocorrect?I noticed later you already answered with something more substantive than my behind above, or I wouldn't have asked.He's being taken ahead of Abdullah and Ajayi in most leagues and head of Yeldon in some, so I don't think he's being underrated at all.Could you elaborate, expand on that?underrated my behind, lol. He's way overrated.ILUVBEER99 said:Very under-rated RB. He does run a bit high but is very tough through the hole and once he sees daylight goodbye.
This is a tough RB who can break off long runs like they're nothing. Probably not a 300 carry type guy, but can handle 225-270 with a high YPC.
got him as the 4th RB in the class behind Gurley/Gordon/Yeldon.
Post #120 - "Couple his upright running style and twig legs, I see a Red Cross in his future."
He does have an upright running style (so did the taller Dickerson, but it is true scouts don't consider it ideal), twigs might be a slight exaggeration, but he doesn't have mammoth, three trunk, Robert Newhouse, Theotis Brown (couldn't wear off the rack slacks, as his thigh size was bigger than his waist!! ), Earl Campbell legs, and he has been injured, in 2013 and a broken foot in 2014, which is why he wasn't able to participate in most of the combine. It is to his credit that he toughed it out and played through pain last year, but the injury pattern (not sure if it extends to prep days?) is a concern. OTOH, I wonder if he would have done even better last year, in by all accounts a stellar year, if no foot injury?
Anyways, glad I asked, because I haven't looked at too much ADP data yet. In my league that I took him, he went after Abdullah and Yeldon, though before Ajayi. Abdullah went in the in the mid-second, Yeldon early second and Coleman early third, so that fits based on pedigree (and expected opportunity). Ajayi went in the fifth, and there was talk that he may have a bone-on-bone condition, which would explain his precipitous drop in the actual draft, and may cause him to fall below the trio above in current dynasty drafts.
Interesting. Coleman in a zone scheme is a pretty polarizing topic. Some feel it would be why he succeeds. Some feel it would be why he fails.Faust said:
This coming from the guy who said he had "twig legs"underrated my behind, lol. He's way overrated.Very under-rated RB. He does run a bit high but is very tough through the hole and once he sees daylight goodbye.
This is a tough RB who can break off long runs like they're nothing. Probably not a 300 carry type guy, but can handle 225-270 with a high YPC.
got him as the 4th RB in the class behind Gurley/Gordon/Yeldon.