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RB Rhamondre Stevenson, NE (1 Viewer)
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Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Belichek effing this up.
Rhamondre is far from a bum. He just needs all the touches - why they brought in Zeke is beyond me.
Rhamondre is far from a bum. He just needs all the touches - why they brought in Zeke is beyond me.
Stevenson has been HORRIBLE this year. This has NOTHING to do with Zeke (who has also been bad).
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
I disagree. It’s hard AF to play for Bill. Rhamondre is a young guy - them bringing in Zeke Most definitely ruined rhamondre’s mindset.
Sure. He needs to be better. But let’s not act like these guys are not human. It’s one thing for Rhamondre to be fighting for snaps with Damien Harris - it’s another thing when you have a fat belly Zeke in the locker room
Come on. This is the NFL. If he can't handle a little adversity maybe he's not cut out to be a top back.
Seriously. Let's not forget that some people were ecstatic after the Zeke signing it, calling it "best case scenario" for Stevenson.
He's not this bad, but he isn't as good as many thought he was.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Ok. So what changed?
Last year Rhamondre was excellent. Super hyped, everyone was to be able to draft him in the late 2nd this year.
So? What is it? He didn’t just forget how to be good at football - agreed?
It’s either a change in play calling, OR he’s just not getting into a rhythm (which most RB’s need to succeed) because Zeke is there taking too many touches away.
Eff you Bill
Guys have one good year and fizzle out of the league all the time. Maybe he's out of shape. Maybe he's still not healthy. What do I know? Blaming zeke is just an excuse.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
The Pats OL has had no continuity as they’ve been missing some starters each game.
Week 1 they were without both starting guards (Cole Strange and Mike Onwenu). Week 2 they were without their left tackle (Trent Brown). Week 4 they were without Strange again. According to PFF their run blocking ranked dead last in Weeks 1-2 and performed 5th best in Week 3 when they had their top 4 starters (Brown/Strange/Andrews/Onwenu) all available (the teams has been a revolving door at right tackle dating back to last season).
Now why Zeke outperformed Stevenson in that Week 3 I can’t explain. I’m not entirely sure what’s going on but I feel like the inconsistency with the run blocking has to factor in on the lack of production early on. He was pretty effective the last two seasons so hopefully he can get out of his funk soon.
Week 1 they were without both starting guards (Cole Strange and Mike Onwenu). Week 2 they were without their left tackle (Trent Brown). Week 4 they were without Strange again. According to PFF their run blocking ranked dead last in Weeks 1-2 and performed 5th best in Week 3 when they had their top 4 starters (Brown/Strange/Andrews/Onwenu) all available (the teams has been a revolving door at right tackle dating back to last season).
Now why Zeke outperformed Stevenson in that Week 3 I can’t explain. I’m not entirely sure what’s going on but I feel like the inconsistency with the run blocking has to factor in on the lack of production early on. He was pretty effective the last two seasons so hopefully he can get out of his funk soon.
dipandglide
Footballguy
I haven't looked at his total stats. I don't recall any TDs yet. Is there positive regression on the horizon?
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Sure- will positively regress to 17 carries for 60 yards instead of 40 yards lol. The Patriots just can't score TD's- is it any easier at home against NOLA next week?
He needs TDs and the Patriots can't score any. Himself the player doesn't seem to be awful but the team is awful and that sinks his value. Maybe they get it together next week but I doubt it. He joints the long list of many of my fantasy busts!
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
I’m holding. He’s talented, the team is just really bad right now.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Exactly. The Pats offense is terrible, no weapons at WR and teams are lining up to stop the run. It’s not a mystery.
Quite a bit has changed IMO, the OC and some of the linemen for starters, but that isn't the main thing. I'm not going to rehash it all, you can go back in this thread and read it, but IMO he was way overhyped because people ignored the signals.
His usage is more than fine if you look deeper- the main reason he put up the points he did last year was because Harris didn't stay healthy. In games that Harris finished, they split carries ~50/50 and he averaged under 11 carries per game. 2/3rds of his total TDs came in the ~40% of the time Harris was out. This season he's getting almost 2/3rds of the carry split with Zeke and averaging 15 carries per game, so it certainly isn't because Zeke is taking too many touches away.
shadrap
Footballguy
this is the correct answer & is 90% the reason for his demise. IMHO
Boston
Footballguy
Worst-case scenario across the board...O is complete garbage, defenses do not have to respect the passing game, O line is banged up and would not be anything special if it was totally healthy and Stevenson doesn't look the same as last year...kid still has talent but right now he is not in a good spot.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
But the question is, is the team going to get any better?
The Finist
Footballguy
Feel like a lot these people were the same people banging the Charbonnet is gonna really impact K9 drum. A lot of really bad takes for it to be called a shark pool.
fatness
Footballguy
That from a Dr. Suess book isn't it? The one about the fat belly Zekes and the thin belly Zekes?
I'd say a rest day. Wasn't there something like 10 partials in NE practice report today?
Down Under
Footballguy
Any new news on this guy? Can we assume he is playing?
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Got Stevenson in the offseason with Javonte and a 2nd round pick for Chubb. Was happy but unloaded Stevenson already for Kupp. Will take the aging WR and needed to get out of the NE RB situation
Problem is most people are going to think like you
Owners in my league think he is just one week from being RB1 and they will figure it out
Yikes
Yeah, I thought that was pretty bad when it hit my inbox.
Streetduck
Footballguy
No, but amazingly zeke has looked better.
Banger
Footballguy
I don't think it's him as much as it is the entire offense is a dumpster fire. They have no wr's and Mac Jones looks lost....I just worry that there's too much wrong to hope for any appreciable bounce back. I'm holding and hopeful but certainly not confident that there are better days ahead....
Lansdowne
Footballguy
It's also really going to depend on the health of the offensive line. On top of facing tough run defenses, the Pats were without both their starting guards last week with Strange inactive and Onwenu injured during the game. It is a decent line when Brown, Strange, Andrews, and Onwenu are in there with whatever scrub they have at right tackle (they apparently had to use their intended RT Riley Reiff at guard because of the Onwenu injury), but they haven't had that line together all season so far. And there's just no quality depth on the line either.
Stevenson still gets considerable volume and may have better luck against the Raiders, but I don't fault anyone for benching him until he shows something. Hard to trust anyone on the Patriots right now.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Didn't @Anarchy99 make about 400 posts trying to warn us off this guy?
He didn't predict the Pats offense would not be in any way functional but still.....
Shoutout to the homers who know what they know.
He didn't predict the Pats offense would not be in any way functional but still.....
Shoutout to the homers who know what they know.
Fezza
Footballguy
He's going to sit on my bench dude, just as Mattison did.
Mattison's snap share is decreasing week on week and Mondre literally cannot get any worse. It's not blind faith, I'm just happy to take a chance.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
That was less “RS is going to suck” and more “don’t sleep on Zeke”. As it stands, neither RB has been anything to write home about thus far. I still think RS will see better days this season, while Zeke’s best days are behind him. I had previously rostered Zeke in case he ended up being the next “Corey Dillon on the Pats” but instead he’s looked more like “Fred Taylor on the Pats”. In fairness to Zeke, he’ll outproduce Taylor just by virtue of staying healthy.
If you have RS and are looking to sell, I’d wait and see if he has a big game against the Raiders this week. He can’t do any worse than the last two weeks at least.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Dynasty.. sold Stevenson and mid 2nd rounder for Kupp. Had ARSB, Higgins, and DJohnson all out last week and stacked at RB (CMC, Barkley, Henry, Ettiene, JJacobs, JavWilliams)
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
But before Zeke signed he made numerous arguments why Rhamondre might not be what we’re hoping he would be
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