RB D’Andre Swift, CHI (1 Viewer)

[Boston]

He (and anyone who signs him) needs to commit to being a 3rd down/COP RB...that is the best role for him and I think he could thrive if he just concentrates on that role...kind of like how Kevin Faulk did when it became apparent early on that he was not a 3-down RB.

 

[zamboni]

He (and anyone who signs him) needs to commit to being a 3rd down/COP RB...that is the best role for him and I think he could thrive if he just concentrates on that role...kind of like how Kevin Faulk did when it became apparent early on that he was not a 3-down RB.

You could probably add Tony Pollard, with whom Swift will be competing in FA, in that realm. But that's for another thread.

 

[Boston]

He (and anyone who signs him) needs to commit to being a 3rd down/COP RB...that is the best role for him and I think he could thrive if he just concentrates on that role...kind of like how Kevin Faulk did when it became apparent early on that he was not a 3-down RB.

You could probably add Tony Pollard, with whom Swift will be competing in FA, in that realm. But that's for another thread.

I see him more as a member of an RBBC then a 3rd down/COP RB but I definitely get what you are saying.

 

[eighsse2]

He (and anyone who signs him) needs to commit to being a 3rd down/COP RB...that is the best role for him and I think he could thrive if he just concentrates on that role...kind of like how Kevin Faulk did when it became apparent early on that he was not a 3-down RB.

You could probably add Tony Pollard, with whom Swift will be competing in FA, in that realm. But that's for another thread.

I see him more as a member of an RBBC then a 3rd down/COP RB but I definitely get what you are saying.

Wait, you're the one who said 3rd down/COP RB.

 

[Boston]

He (and anyone who signs him) needs to commit to being a 3rd down/COP RB...that is the best role for him and I think he could thrive if he just concentrates on that role...kind of like how Kevin Faulk did when it became apparent early on that he was not a 3-down RB.

You could probably add Tony Pollard, with whom Swift will be competing in FA, in that realm. But that's for another thread.

I see him more as a member of an RBBC then a 3rd down/COP RB but I definitely get what you are saying.

Wait, you're the one who said 3rd down/COP RB.

I said that about Swift...the RBBC is with regard to Pollard.

 

[eighsse2]

He (and anyone who signs him) needs to commit to being a 3rd down/COP RB...that is the best role for him and I think he could thrive if he just concentrates on that role...kind of like how Kevin Faulk did when it became apparent early on that he was not a 3-down RB.

You could probably add Tony Pollard, with whom Swift will be competing in FA, in that realm. But that's for another thread.

I see him more as a member of an RBBC then a 3rd down/COP RB but I definitely get what you are saying.

Wait, you're the one who said 3rd down/COP RB.

I said that about Swift...the RBBC is with regard to Pollard.

Ohh, got it! Makes sense now.

 

[travdogg]

He (and anyone who signs him) needs to commit to being a 3rd down/COP RB...that is the best role for him and I think he could thrive if he just concentrates on that role...kind of like how Kevin Faulk did when it became apparent early on that he was not a 3-down RB.

You could probably add Tony Pollard, with whom Swift will be competing in FA, in that realm. But that's for another thread.

I think Pollard is a FAR better RB than Swift. I don't think there is a single thing a RB is asked to do that Swift is better at. It probably belongs more in the Pollard topic, but I think Pollard is extremely underrated if people just take his 2023 as what he is.

 

[kface]

Nothing about swift would excite me to sign him or pay him.

 

[menobrown]

I think saying he's a third down/COP back is underselling him but agree he's not what you want in a bellcow. Lines can get blurred on this but I don't think he's so much as what you want to build your running game around but someone you want to be a major part of it and all of that fits the mold of a RBBC 1A/B more then a clear cut secondary type associated with a COP.

He played the most games he's ever played, had 78 more carries then he's ever had in the NFL and over 40 more then he ever had in college and to me it was showing in the later part of the season. I think he was wearing down but it also looked like he was running to try and preserve himself. Hard thing to judge but to me he did not show quite enough fight and determination, went down to easily at contact and that was really my only knock on him.

I don't know if he'll be able to hit the type of contracts that Montgomery or Sanders got but possible which is around $5-6M a year with an out after 2 seasons. As second RB contracts go he'll be viewed as having less wear and tear then most and he'll play his next two seasons as a 25 and 26 year old. I think that's absolutely going to be in his favor vs some of the other FA RB's.

Got no idea where he might land. Did Brian Johnson like him or just live with him? If it's the former maybe pairing him with Robinson if the money is a viable plan for Washington, that would be a good duo IMO.

 

[Snotbubbles]

He (and anyone who signs him) needs to commit to being a 3rd down/COP RB...that is the best role for him and I think he could thrive if he just concentrates on that role...kind of like how Kevin Faulk did when it became apparent early on that he was not a 3-down RB.

You could probably add Tony Pollard, with whom Swift will be competing in FA, in that realm. But that's for another thread.

I think Pollard is a FAR better RB than Swift. I don't think there is a single thing a RB is asked to do that Swift is better at. It probably belongs more in the Pollard topic, but I think Pollard is extremely underrated if people just take his 2023 as what he is.

Pollard looks like he lost his burst.

 

[LawFitz]

Not a bellcow, but can play more than just a COP role for mild stretches of a season.

If his market is bare, I could see him signing with KC. His share of the jersey sales alone, would make up for a big portion of the lack of salary, yet less all the additional marketing and publicity that would surely come his way.

And he would be a legit upgrade over Jerick McKinnon in that role.

 

[zamboni]

If his market is bare, I could see him signing with KC. His share of the jersey sales alone, would make up for a big portion of the lack of salary, yet less all the additional marketing and publicity that would surely come his way.

That would be interesting considering just about everyone thought the Chiefs were going to draft Swift, only to pivot and draft CEH instead. Obviously that draft mistake really cost them in the end.

 

[eighsse2]

Swift's ratio of targets:rushes in 2023 was 30% of what it was in 2022. I mean, I guess that comes with getting a lot of rushing attempts after getting only 100 with Detroit in 2022. But still, I'd have liked to have seen 100 targets last year, not 50. Even if they ran him a little less.

 

[travdogg]

Swift's ratio of targets:rushes in 2023 was 30% of what it was in 2022. I mean, I guess that comes with getting a lot of rushing attempts after getting only 100 with Detroit in 2022. But still, I'd have liked to have seen 100 targets last year, not 50. Even if they ran him a little less.

Tough for the #4 option in a passing game to ever see 100 targets, and Swift was certainly a lot less deserving of targets than AJ/Smith/Goedert.

 

[zamboni]

Swift's ratio of targets:rushes in 2023 was 30% of what it was in 2022. I mean, I guess that comes with getting a lot of rushing attempts after getting only 100 with Detroit in 2022. But still, I'd have liked to have seen 100 targets last year, not 50. Even if they ran him a little less.

Tough for the #4 option in a passing game to ever see 100 targets, and Swift was certainly a lot less deserving of targets than AJ/Smith/Goedert.

Also a different offensive philosophy between Philly and Detroit. Hurts' mobility has a lot to do with it in terms of not needing to check down because he can just take off. Goff is obviously much more of a pocket passer.

 

[menobrown]

Feel like Swift will be another hot topic of disagreement this off-season.

3/24 with over 15 guaranteed is initial reporting and I'm sure the details will be less favorable but they obviously had a deal worked out for him and this is someone they wanted. That's great for him.

The negative is that Caleb holds the ball a long time looking for a big play, if he does that in the NFL that will often limit the dump offs or easier throws to RB's. Goal line he might cede carries to Roschon and Caleb can move. Still expect him to get a lot more targets and goal line TD chances then he had in Philly, less of an OL though.

All in all stock up for me. Good RB2.

 

[menobrown]

Report now on his contract is that he'll see a legit $8.25M the first two years of the deal and the Eagles tried to keep him.

 

[farfromforgotten]

Downgrades to QB, OL, all of the offense in general. I like the player alright but I’m glad I traded him away a couple of weeks ago.

 

[JohnnyU]

Mortimer, sell Roschon Johnson and Khalil Herbert, SELL!! Oh wait....too late.

 

[nysfl2]

Report now on his contract is that he'll see a legit $8.25M the first two years of the deal and the Eagles tried to keep him.

That seems like a crazy amount of money for swift

 

[menobrown]

Report now on his contract is that he'll see a legit $8.25M the first two years of the deal and the Eagles tried to keep him.

That seems like a crazy amount of money for swift

I thought he was a $6-7M per year guy, so a little higher then I estimated but pretty far from crazy.

 

[flapgreen]

Report now on his contract is that he'll see a legit $8.25M the first two years of the deal and the Eagles tried to keep him.

That seems like a crazy amount of money for swift

No

 

[menobrown]

What is crazy is that for over half an hour he was the only FA to switch teams, think Greenard just went to Vikings as second one.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Report now on his contract is that he'll see a legit $8.25M the first two years of the deal and the Eagles tried to keep him.

That seems like a crazy amount of money for swift

The crazy part was that Philly seemed to under-utilize him even when he looked great……

 

[flapgreen]

Pollard got the same amount from the Titans

 

[SuperFantasyFootballGuy]

I love it for Chicago, we haven't had a home run runningback since Matt Forte.


Thunder and lightning with Roschon. Bring in Caleb Williams and a WR to pair him with and the Bears are legit contenders for the NFC North.


Bear down!!

 

[socrates]

Feel like Swift will be another hot topic of disagreement this off-season.

3/24 with over 15 guaranteed is initial reporting and I'm sure the details will be less favorable but they obviously had a deal worked out for him and this is someone they wanted. That's great for him.

The negative is that Caleb holds the ball a long time looking for a big play, if he does that in the NFL that will often limit the dump offs or easier throws to RB's. Goal line he might cede carries to Roschon and Caleb can move. Still expect him to get a lot more targets and goal line TD chances then he had in Philly, less of an OL though.

All in all stock up for me. Good RB2.

Huh? I feel like this is the middle of a conversation I missed . . .

 

[eighsse2]

Feel like Swift will be another hot topic of disagreement this off-season.

3/24 with over 15 guaranteed is initial reporting and I'm sure the details will be less favorable but they obviously had a deal worked out for him and this is someone they wanted. That's great for him.

The negative is that Caleb holds the ball a long time looking for a big play, if he does that in the NFL that will often limit the dump offs or easier throws to RB's. Goal line he might cede carries to Roschon and Caleb can move. Still expect him to get a lot more targets and goal line TD chances then he had in Philly, less of an OL though.

All in all stock up for me. Good RB2.

Huh? I feel like this is the middle of a conversation I missed . . .

I don't understand what is to not understand. You're aware he signed with the Bears?

 

[menobrown]

Feel like Swift will be another hot topic of disagreement this off-season.

3/24 with over 15 guaranteed is initial reporting and I'm sure the details will be less favorable but they obviously had a deal worked out for him and this is someone they wanted. That's great for him.

The negative is that Caleb holds the ball a long time looking for a big play, if he does that in the NFL that will often limit the dump offs or easier throws to RB's. Goal line he might cede carries to Roschon and Caleb can move. Still expect him to get a lot more targets and goal line TD chances then he had in Philly, less of an OL though.

All in all stock up for me. Good RB2.

Huh? I feel like this is the middle of a conversation I missed . . .

I don't understand what is to not understand. You're aware he signed with the Bears?

Thanks for asking that question, I was going to answer Socrates but was not sure what to address.

 

[socrates]

Feel like Swift will be another hot topic of disagreement this off-season.

3/24 with over 15 guaranteed is initial reporting and I'm sure the details will be less favorable but they obviously had a deal worked out for him and this is someone they wanted. That's great for him.

The negative is that Caleb holds the ball a long time looking for a big play, if he does that in the NFL that will often limit the dump offs or easier throws to RB's. Goal line he might cede carries to Roschon and Caleb can move. Still expect him to get a lot more targets and goal line TD chances then he had in Philly, less of an OL though.

All in all stock up for me. Good RB2.

Huh? I feel like this is the middle of a conversation I missed . . .

I don't understand what is to not understand. You're aware he signed with the Bears?

I figured that must be the case, but I had not seen that report. Thanks!

 

[Buckna]

Downgrades to QB, OL, all of the offense in general. I like the player alright but I’m glad I traded him away a couple of weeks ago.

His value was already in the toilet after the Eagles imploded to end the season and they forgot about the run game. Multiple posters on these boards talking about him not being worth anything and would be lucky to sign as a backup. Its not the best landing spot sure, but its better than what most were expecting 24 hours ago.

 

[ffmail4me]

Don't own many shares (thankfully) but I see this is a great landing spot all things considered

 

[eighsse2]

As president of the D'Andre Swift Fan Club, I believe this is going to be good.

 

[SuperFantasyFootballGuy]

I don't think there was a better landing spot than this. Bear down!!

 

[The Frankman]

Bears agreed to terms with RB D’Andre Swift, formerly of the Eagles, on a three-year, $24.5 million contract.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports the deal includes $15.3 million guaranteed. It’s a questionable commitment in a loaded running back class for a team that already wasn’t hurting for running back depth. Swift finally stayed healthy last season as he cruised to new career highs in Philadelphia, but he was inefficient both as a rusher and pass catcher behind one of the league’s best run-blocking lines. That’s at least from an advanced metric perspective, including average rush yards over expected. From a traditional yards per carry lens, his 4.6 was fine. That’s the complaint. The positive, of course, is that Swift is a weapon-ish player capable of contributing on all three downs as the Bears ready to welcome phenom QB Caleb Williams. Swift will definitely remain in the RB2 mix in fantasy. His arrival is real bad news for Khalil Herbert and Roschon Johnson.
- Rotoworld

 

[beef]

This feels like one of those signings where the second highest offer was 2yrs, $6 mil range.

 

[Faust]

HC Matt Eberflus: Bears moved quick to sign 'weapon back' D'Andre Swift

 

[Snotbubbles]

Swift has a bunch of talent. I don't know why the Eagles never used him in high leverage situations (4 minute, 2 minute, goal line) and always went with Gainwell. Well I know why, the Eagles OC was in waaaaay over his head and got the absolute least out of that offense. With a half competent OC and if Swift stays healthy, another 1000 yard season should be really easy for him. He could easily get 10 TDs since he won't have Jalen Hurts poaching them from him anymore.

 

[efactor]

Swift has a bunch of talent. I don't know why the Eagles never used him in high leverage situations (4 minute, 2 minute, goal line) and always went with Gainwell. Well I know why, the Eagles OC was in waaaaay over his head and got the absolute least out of that offense. With a half competent OC and if Swift stays healthy, another 1000 yard season should be really easy for him. He could easily get 10 TDs since he won't have Jalen Hurts poaching them from him anymore.

I think people are underestimating Khalil Herbert's role this year. He's a very talented runner and the Bears will want to keep Swift healthy, so I think he gets a similar amount of carries while Swift gets almost all the work in the passing game. Johnson will have a role as well.

I just don't see 1000 yards rushing with 10 TDs as being "easy" for him.

 

[travdogg]

Swift has a bunch of talent. I don't know why the Eagles never used him in high leverage situations (4 minute, 2 minute, goal line) and always went with Gainwell. Well I know why, the Eagles OC was in waaaaay over his head and got the absolute least out of that offense. With a half competent OC and if Swift stays healthy, another 1000 yard season should be really easy for him. He could easily get 10 TDs since he won't have Jalen Hurts poaching them from him anymore.

I think people are underestimating Khalil Herbert's role this year. He's a very talented runner and the Bears will want to keep Swift healthy, so I think he gets a similar amount of carries while Swift gets almost all the work in the passing game. Johnson will have a role as well.

I just don't see 1000 yards rushing with 10 TDs as being "easy" for him.

100% agree. Herbert is objectively a better runner than Swift, and one of the better runners in the NFL. There's a very real shot that Herbert is the RB to own in Chicago, at least once the weather turns bad. At the very least he's a significantly bigger threat than Gainwell was. Roschon might have missed his chance, and also just isn't really all that talented in my opinion. I think Swift's signing relegates Johnson to ST.

Assuming Swift does see 50-55% of the carries, I'd say that puts him around 170 carries, so that's maybe 800 yards (and 4.7 YPC is probably a big ask with Fields gone, and this not being Philly or Detroit's OL)

I think something like 40-300-2 is a fair receiving projection. Sure. he's capable of more, but he's also likely 5th in the pecking order in Chicago, behind Moore, Allen, Odunze, and Kmet. Swift is a high-end RB3 in my opinion, which is where he's currently being drafted.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Swift has a bunch of talent. I don't know why the Eagles never used him in high leverage situations (4 minute, 2 minute, goal line) and always went with Gainwell. Well I know why, the Eagles OC was in waaaaay over his head and got the absolute least out of that offense. With a half competent OC and if Swift stays healthy, another 1000 yard season should be really easy for him. He could easily get 10 TDs since he won't have Jalen Hurts poaching them from him anymore.

I think people are underestimating Khalil Herbert's role this year. He's a very talented runner and the Bears will want to keep Swift healthy, so I think he gets a similar amount of carries while Swift gets almost all the work in the passing game. Johnson will have a role as well.

I just don't see 1000 yards rushing with 10 TDs as being "easy" for him.

100% agree. Herbert is objectively a better runner than Swift, and one of the better runners in the NFL. There's a very real shot that Herbert is the RB to own in Chicago, at least once the weather turns bad. At the very least he's a significantly bigger threat than Gainwell was. Roschon might have missed his chance, and also just isn't really all that talented in my opinion. I think Swift's signing relegates Johnson to ST.

Assuming Swift does see 50-55% of the carries, I'd say that puts him around 170 carries, so that's maybe 800 yards (and 4.7 YPC is probably a big ask with Fields gone, and this not being Philly or Detroit's OL)

I think something like 40-300-2 is a fair receiving projection. Sure. he's capable of more, but he's also likely 5th in the pecking order in Chicago, behind Moore, Allen, Odunze, and Kmet. Swift is a high-end RB3 in my opinion, which is where he's currently being drafted.

You don't sign a guy to a 3 year, $24M contract (3rd highest for RBs this offseason) with the thinking that you're going to have him split carries 50/50 with a guy already on your roster. If that was your plan, then signing a guy like Ekeler would have made more sense.

 

[efactor]

Swift has a bunch of talent. I don't know why the Eagles never used him in high leverage situations (4 minute, 2 minute, goal line) and always went with Gainwell. Well I know why, the Eagles OC was in waaaaay over his head and got the absolute least out of that offense. With a half competent OC and if Swift stays healthy, another 1000 yard season should be really easy for him. He could easily get 10 TDs since he won't have Jalen Hurts poaching them from him anymore.

I think people are underestimating Khalil Herbert's role this year. He's a very talented runner and the Bears will want to keep Swift healthy, so I think he gets a similar amount of carries while Swift gets almost all the work in the passing game. Johnson will have a role as well.

I just don't see 1000 yards rushing with 10 TDs as being "easy" for him.

100% agree. Herbert is objectively a better runner than Swift, and one of the better runners in the NFL. There's a very real shot that Herbert is the RB to own in Chicago, at least once the weather turns bad. At the very least he's a significantly bigger threat than Gainwell was. Roschon might have missed his chance, and also just isn't really all that talented in my opinion. I think Swift's signing relegates Johnson to ST.

Assuming Swift does see 50-55% of the carries, I'd say that puts him around 170 carries, so that's maybe 800 yards (and 4.7 YPC is probably a big ask with Fields gone, and this not being Philly or Detroit's OL)

I think something like 40-300-2 is a fair receiving projection. Sure. he's capable of more, but he's also likely 5th in the pecking order in Chicago, behind Moore, Allen, Odunze, and Kmet. Swift is a high-end RB3 in my opinion, which is where he's currently being drafted.

You don't sign a guy to a 3 year, $24M contract (3rd highest for RBs this offseason) with the thinking that you're going to have him split carries 50/50 with a guy already on your roster. If that was your plan, then signing a guy like Ekeler would have made more sense.

Not really. If you have the money, which the Bears do, it makes perfect sense to get who they think is the best player. Keep him healthy. Herbert is a really good runner but not a very good receiver.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Swift has a bunch of talent. I don't know why the Eagles never used him in high leverage situations (4 minute, 2 minute, goal line) and always went with Gainwell. Well I know why, the Eagles OC was in waaaaay over his head and got the absolute least out of that offense. With a half competent OC and if Swift stays healthy, another 1000 yard season should be really easy for him. He could easily get 10 TDs since he won't have Jalen Hurts poaching them from him anymore.

I think people are underestimating Khalil Herbert's role this year. He's a very talented runner and the Bears will want to keep Swift healthy, so I think he gets a similar amount of carries while Swift gets almost all the work in the passing game. Johnson will have a role as well.

I just don't see 1000 yards rushing with 10 TDs as being "easy" for him.

100% agree. Herbert is objectively a better runner than Swift, and one of the better runners in the NFL. There's a very real shot that Herbert is the RB to own in Chicago, at least once the weather turns bad. At the very least he's a significantly bigger threat than Gainwell was. Roschon might have missed his chance, and also just isn't really all that talented in my opinion. I think Swift's signing relegates Johnson to ST.

Assuming Swift does see 50-55% of the carries, I'd say that puts him around 170 carries, so that's maybe 800 yards (and 4.7 YPC is probably a big ask with Fields gone, and this not being Philly or Detroit's OL)

I think something like 40-300-2 is a fair receiving projection. Sure. he's capable of more, but he's also likely 5th in the pecking order in Chicago, behind Moore, Allen, Odunze, and Kmet. Swift is a high-end RB3 in my opinion, which is where he's currently being drafted.

You don't sign a guy to a 3 year, $24M contract (3rd highest for RBs this offseason) with the thinking that you're going to have him split carries 50/50 with a guy already on your roster. If that was your plan, then signing a guy like Ekeler would have made more sense.

Miles Sanders would like a word.

 

[travdogg]

Swift has a bunch of talent. I don't know why the Eagles never used him in high leverage situations (4 minute, 2 minute, goal line) and always went with Gainwell. Well I know why, the Eagles OC was in waaaaay over his head and got the absolute least out of that offense. With a half competent OC and if Swift stays healthy, another 1000 yard season should be really easy for him. He could easily get 10 TDs since he won't have Jalen Hurts poaching them from him anymore.

I think people are underestimating Khalil Herbert's role this year. He's a very talented runner and the Bears will want to keep Swift healthy, so I think he gets a similar amount of carries while Swift gets almost all the work in the passing game. Johnson will have a role as well.

I just don't see 1000 yards rushing with 10 TDs as being "easy" for him.

100% agree. Herbert is objectively a better runner than Swift, and one of the better runners in the NFL. There's a very real shot that Herbert is the RB to own in Chicago, at least once the weather turns bad. At the very least he's a significantly bigger threat than Gainwell was. Roschon might have missed his chance, and also just isn't really all that talented in my opinion. I think Swift's signing relegates Johnson to ST.

Assuming Swift does see 50-55% of the carries, I'd say that puts him around 170 carries, so that's maybe 800 yards (and 4.7 YPC is probably a big ask with Fields gone, and this not being Philly or Detroit's OL)

I think something like 40-300-2 is a fair receiving projection. Sure. he's capable of more, but he's also likely 5th in the pecking order in Chicago, behind Moore, Allen, Odunze, and Kmet. Swift is a high-end RB3 in my opinion, which is where he's currently being drafted.

You don't sign a guy to a 3 year, $24M contract (3rd highest for RBs this offseason) with the thinking that you're going to have him split carries 50/50 with a guy already on your roster. If that was your plan, then signing a guy like Ekeler would have made more sense.

If that's the logic, I'm gonna assume you are gonna be all aboard the Tony Pollard bandwagon in Tennessee.

If it were a team like KC that was really up against the cap, signing an Ekeler may have made more sense, but the Bears had the most cap space in the league at the beginning of FA.

 

[menobrown]

Swift has a bunch of talent. I don't know why the Eagles never used him in high leverage situations (4 minute, 2 minute, goal line) and always went with Gainwell. Well I know why, the Eagles OC was in waaaaay over his head and got the absolute least out of that offense. With a half competent OC and if Swift stays healthy, another 1000 yard season should be really easy for him. He could easily get 10 TDs since he won't have Jalen Hurts poaching them from him anymore.

I think people are underestimating Khalil Herbert's role this year. He's a very talented runner and the Bears will want to keep Swift healthy, so I think he gets a similar amount of carries while Swift gets almost all the work in the passing game. Johnson will have a role as well.

I just don't see 1000 yards rushing with 10 TDs as being "easy" for him.

100% agree. Herbert is objectively a better runner than Swift, and one of the better runners in the NFL. There's a very real shot that Herbert is the RB to own in Chicago, at least once the weather turns bad. At the very least he's a significantly bigger threat than Gainwell was. Roschon might have missed his chance, and also just isn't really all that talented in my opinion. I think Swift's signing relegates Johnson to ST.

Assuming Swift does see 50-55% of the carries, I'd say that puts him around 170 carries, so that's maybe 800 yards (and 4.7 YPC is probably a big ask with Fields gone, and this not being Philly or Detroit's OL)

I think something like 40-300-2 is a fair receiving projection. Sure. he's capable of more, but he's also likely 5th in the pecking order in Chicago, behind Moore, Allen, Odunze, and Kmet. Swift is a high-end RB3 in my opinion, which is where he's currently being drafted.

You don't sign a guy to a 3 year, $24M contract (3rd highest for RBs this offseason) with the thinking that you're going to have him split carries 50/50 with a guy already on your roster. If that was your plan, then signing a guy like Ekeler would have made more sense.

Swift is not a bell cow and think he wore down last year in something close to that role so I won't at all be surprised if he's actually less then 50% of total team RB carries though I think he'll lead the team. In other words I don't think their plan is for another RB to lead the team, though actual performance can of course change plans but to that note I'd point out he's never performed poorly. Unlike most here I don't think the decision makers on the team are as fond of Herbert as they are and my guess is Roschon will end up as his main complement, that's TBD.

But total touches I'd put him over 50% as I believe he was signed primarily to be a major part of the passing game, and somewhere between lead/complentary runner.

As an Eagle he averaged about 14 carries and 3 targets a game. As a Lion he was about 9 carries and 5 targets. I'm expecting something close to his Lions usage, maybe just a tad more carries and anticipate his overall fantasy performance to be better then it was with the Eagles, something close to what it was with the Lions when he averaged about 14-15 fantasy points a game, which is typically in line with RB15'ish range. I'd feel really good going into the season with him as my RB2 and believe everything is laid out for him to have that type of usage/role for the next two seasons.

I broke this down early after FA but he got the third best FA RB deal with the second most guarantees and of course was signed quickly and there was strong comp. To your point you don't do that and then make the guy a secondary runner on the team and a small part of the passing game. That makes no sense. Again actual performance can change plans, but that's not their plan.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Swift has a bunch of talent. I don't know why the Eagles never used him in high leverage situations (4 minute, 2 minute, goal line) and always went with Gainwell. Well I know why, the Eagles OC was in waaaaay over his head and got the absolute least out of that offense. With a half competent OC and if Swift stays healthy, another 1000 yard season should be really easy for him. He could easily get 10 TDs since he won't have Jalen Hurts poaching them from him anymore.

I think people are underestimating Khalil Herbert's role this year. He's a very talented runner and the Bears will want to keep Swift healthy, so I think he gets a similar amount of carries while Swift gets almost all the work in the passing game. Johnson will have a role as well.

I just don't see 1000 yards rushing with 10 TDs as being "easy" for him.

100% agree. Herbert is objectively a better runner than Swift, and one of the better runners in the NFL. There's a very real shot that Herbert is the RB to own in Chicago, at least once the weather turns bad. At the very least he's a significantly bigger threat than Gainwell was. Roschon might have missed his chance, and also just isn't really all that talented in my opinion. I think Swift's signing relegates Johnson to ST.

Assuming Swift does see 50-55% of the carries, I'd say that puts him around 170 carries, so that's maybe 800 yards (and 4.7 YPC is probably a big ask with Fields gone, and this not being Philly or Detroit's OL)

I think something like 40-300-2 is a fair receiving projection. Sure. he's capable of more, but he's also likely 5th in the pecking order in Chicago, behind Moore, Allen, Odunze, and Kmet. Swift is a high-end RB3 in my opinion, which is where he's currently being drafted.

You don't sign a guy to a 3 year, $24M contract (3rd highest for RBs this offseason) with the thinking that you're going to have him split carries 50/50 with a guy already on your roster. If that was your plan, then signing a guy like Ekeler would have made more sense.

Swift is not a bell cow and think he wore down last year in something close to that role so I won't at all be surprised if he's actually less then 50% of total team RB carries though I think he'll lead the team. In other words I don't think their plan is for another RB to lead the team, though actual performance can of course change plans but to that note I'd point out he's never performed poorly. Unlike most here I don't think the decision makers on the team are as fond of Herbert as they are and my guess is Roschon will end up as his main complement, that's TBD.

But total touches I'd put him over 50% as I believe he was signed primarily to be a major part of the passing game, and somewhere between lead/complentary runner.

As an Eagle he averaged about 14 carries and 3 targets a game. As a Lion he was about 9 carries and 5 targets. I'm expecting something close to his Lions usage, maybe just a tad more carries and anticipate his overall fantasy performance to be better then it was with the Eagles, something close to what it was with the Lions when he averaged about 14-15 fantasy points a game, which is typically in line with RB15'ish range. I'd feel really good going into the season with him as my RB2 and believe everything is laid out for him to have that type of usage/role for the next two seasons.

I broke this down early after FA but he got the third best FA RB deal with the second most guarantees and of course was signed quickly and there was strong comp. To your point you don't do that and then make the guy a secondary runner on the team and a small part of the passing game. That makes no sense. Again actual performance can change plans, but that's not their plan.

He was always hurt when he was with the Lions. He was healthy last season. I think he's more than capable of getting his Eagles touches, I'm just not sure he'll stay healthy in Chicago.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Swift has a bunch of talent. I don't know why the Eagles never used him in high leverage situations (4 minute, 2 minute, goal line) and always went with Gainwell. Well I know why, the Eagles OC was in waaaaay over his head and got the absolute least out of that offense. With a half competent OC and if Swift stays healthy, another 1000 yard season should be really easy for him. He could easily get 10 TDs since he won't have Jalen Hurts poaching them from him anymore.

I think people are underestimating Khalil Herbert's role this year. He's a very talented runner and the Bears will want to keep Swift healthy, so I think he gets a similar amount of carries while Swift gets almost all the work in the passing game. Johnson will have a role as well.

I just don't see 1000 yards rushing with 10 TDs as being "easy" for him.

100% agree. Herbert is objectively a better runner than Swift, and one of the better runners in the NFL. There's a very real shot that Herbert is the RB to own in Chicago, at least once the weather turns bad. At the very least he's a significantly bigger threat than Gainwell was. Roschon might have missed his chance, and also just isn't really all that talented in my opinion. I think Swift's signing relegates Johnson to ST.

Assuming Swift does see 50-55% of the carries, I'd say that puts him around 170 carries, so that's maybe 800 yards (and 4.7 YPC is probably a big ask with Fields gone, and this not being Philly or Detroit's OL)

I think something like 40-300-2 is a fair receiving projection. Sure. he's capable of more, but he's also likely 5th in the pecking order in Chicago, behind Moore, Allen, Odunze, and Kmet. Swift is a high-end RB3 in my opinion, which is where he's currently being drafted.

You don't sign a guy to a 3 year, $24M contract (3rd highest for RBs this offseason) with the thinking that you're going to have him split carries 50/50 with a guy already on your roster. If that was your plan, then signing a guy like Ekeler would have made more sense.

If that's the logic, I'm gonna assume you are gonna be all aboard the Tony Pollard bandwagon in Tennessee.

If it were a team like KC that was really up against the cap, signing an Ekeler may have made more sense, but the Bears had the most cap space in the league at the beginning of FA.

I don't like Pollard skill-wise as a RB, but yes, I expect Tony Pollard to get 240+ carries for Tennessee, barring injury.

 

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He was always hurt when he was with the Lions

One of the greatest exaggerations in fantasy football over the last few years.

 

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He was always hurt when he was with the Lions

One of the greatest exaggerations in fantasy football over the last few years.

He was very frequently hurt. Played the vast majority of the games, but frequently played hurt. I see the kid play and don't know how he's not a superstar among RBs. May just be my Swift-truther-goggles, but they're Gorilla glued onto my eyes, I'd take them off if I could.

 

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He was always hurt when he was with the Lions

One of the greatest exaggerations in fantasy football over the last few years.

He was very frequently hurt. Played the vast majority of the games, but frequently played hurt. I see the kid play and don't know how he's not a superstar among RBs. May just be my Swift-truther-goggles, but they're Gorilla glued onto my eyes, I'd take them off if I could.

I don't know about that, thought Staley in fact criticized him for not pushing through enough games.

It's a position that has a lot of injuries. He was mid in that department, not excessive and I'll continue to assert his injury history with the Lions was wildly overblown, mainly by butthurt fantasy owners.