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Don’t post any lists until we are done. Would rather people take folks to the woodshed on a song by song basis. People posting lists will start discussion before we even get to the rankings. That kind of defeats the purpose of having a poll and counting down the rankings.
This is where I am.
You can count WS/BMS as one song. And since I didn’t specify, you can do the same thing for Heartbreaker/LLM. Call it a 2 for 1 special.
I’ve done or followed several of the drafts and my recollection is the issues with Stairway are: 1. Overplayed 2. Too long. 3. It’s great - they just have better songs.
As much as any other band, Zep epitomized the “album as art form” concept. And Coda was not that, it was a collection of outtakes. So of course it’s not going to have the same impact as the records released when Bonzo was alive.
This is a me problem, but song length criticisms will never resonate. Song length obviously doesn't make a great piece of music, but time is necessary to develop the greatest pieces of work. The successes are journeys (Zep has some) whereas the less successful seem to be repetitve (Zep has some of these too), which is where I think you're more likely to lose the listener. There is nothing repetitve about Stairway. It's just those that over consumed it know the story and have lost interest in it.
Yep - I’ve already begun thinking about my write up and how I rank music. I’m personally much less inclined to ding a song over length than I am for being too repetitive - Stairway is not repetitive for me but is borderline with run time - I readily admit to having an attention span problem.
I wonder how sanitized it will be. What rock musicians got up to in the 70s was truly horrifying, by any standards, let alone todays. Led Zeppelin certainly didnt do things by half measures.Witz said:
YepDr. Octopus said:
And arguably but IMO Rock N Roll is the worst song on IV. That's pretty awesome when the worst song is "good"After Rock n Roll, she goes "You know Dad, I think you're right. They only have good songs"
My kids are in their 20s and when I play anything rock related they all complain about my “old people” music. The stuff they listen to with their hipping and hopping doesn’t even really have instruments these days. Blasphemers.So, after getting into the list, I was driving my 9 yo around today a good bit and decided it was time to introduce her to Zeppelin. Mind you, she mostly listens to current pop music.
Got through I, then most of II, and got started on IV.
After Rock n Roll, she goes "You know Dad, I think you're right. They only have good songs"
Yep.
My breakdown was:
Yes. White Summer / Black Mountain Side and Heartbreaker / Living Loving Maid can be combined into one song.
Each change is $10 each.How much trouble for us to submit a new list? Been listening more since I submitted mine and want to make a few changes...
Yeah, I thought about it too since I've been listening almost non stop since this started.How much trouble for us to submit a new list? Been listening more since I submitted mine and want to make a few changes...
Good to know.....going to have a revised list as I also have been revisiting the band lately and have some changes.
