sucks. You related to Derrick Rose?Coming off my distance PR I got some bad news, think I tore my meniscus again in my bad knee (this would be 3rd time). Just turned around, felt that familiar twinge and my knee just about gave out. Now I can just be walking and it buckles, hate this ####. I wasn't going to be challenging Steve for the tape but the marathon I had on the books for next Saturday is a pipe dream. Trying to get registration switched to next year.
Scheduled an appointment with an ortho, probably have to get an MRI and if it's what I think surgery then 6 weeks of light duty before it I can start back into it.
Not unless he has fat, slow, white blood in his line someplace.sucks. You related to Derrick Rose?Coming off my distance PR I got some bad news, think I tore my meniscus again in my bad knee (this would be 3rd time). Just turned around, felt that familiar twinge and my knee just about gave out. Now I can just be walking and it buckles, hate this ####. I wasn't going to be challenging Steve for the tape but the marathon I had on the books for next Saturday is a pipe dream. Trying to get registration switched to next year.
Scheduled an appointment with an ortho, probably have to get an MRI and if it's what I think surgery then 6 weeks of light duty before it I can start back into it.
Did he bring the beer?who's the new guy?WTF is going on here?!
where'd you go?Haven't been feeling great this week - stressed, not feeling well, sleeping poorly, etc. Did 7 easy on Tuesday, but really felt blah yesterday so just took it off. But I forced my fat ### out the door this morning to get something in.
Nine miles and 1,656' of elevation later, I feel much better. It helped that it was an amazing day - about 60 degrees, I was dripping sweat down my back onto my legs when I stopped at the peak for a few minutes to take in the views. I was feeling pretty good at that point so I decided to do some focused downhill work to trash my quads a bit, and hammered all the way back down the 1,500' hill. It varied from really technical, rocky, steep sections to steep fire road to groomed single track, and I just kept pushing. It was a total blast, especially having to really focus while moving quickly over the really rocky sections. I came home and downed nine Master Amino Pattern tabs to let the quad rebuilding begin.
I'm glad I got that "workout" in as while I'm always out on hilly stuff I haven't done much focused, hard downhill running this year. With a 50K coming up next weekend I would have liked to have gotten this in a day or two earlier as I do believe in the "it takes 10 days to gain the full benefits of a workout" theory, but 9 days should be close enough.
Soon to be a masters runner!!One more run Saturday before my 40th birthday...not a bad time to start feeling good again.
I live in Novato now, so my go to routes are up and down Mt. Burdell. It's a good 1,500' peak on the North end of town with trails and fire roads all up and down it, so I can mix in a few different routes and distances. It doesn't hold a candle to climbing Mt. Tam out of Mill Valley or Ross, but it works.where'd you go?Haven't been feeling great this week - stressed, not feeling well, sleeping poorly, etc. Did 7 easy on Tuesday, but really felt blah yesterday so just took it off. But I forced my fat ### out the door this morning to get something in.
Nine miles and 1,656' of elevation later, I feel much better. It helped that it was an amazing day - about 60 degrees, I was dripping sweat down my back onto my legs when I stopped at the peak for a few minutes to take in the views. I was feeling pretty good at that point so I decided to do some focused downhill work to trash my quads a bit, and hammered all the way back down the 1,500' hill. It varied from really technical, rocky, steep sections to steep fire road to groomed single track, and I just kept pushing. It was a total blast, especially having to really focus while moving quickly over the really rocky sections. I came home and downed nine Master Amino Pattern tabs to let the quad rebuilding begin.
I'm glad I got that "workout" in as while I'm always out on hilly stuff I haven't done much focused, hard downhill running this year. With a 50K coming up next weekend I would have liked to have gotten this in a day or two earlier as I do believe in the "it takes 10 days to gain the full benefits of a workout" theory, but 9 days should be close enough.
damn.I live in Novato now, so my go to routes are up and down Mt. Burdell. It's a good 1,500' peak on the North end of town with trails and fire roads all up and down it, so I can mix in a few different routes and distances. It doesn't hold a candle to climbing Mt. Tam out of Mill Valley or Ross, but it works.where'd you go?Haven't been feeling great this week - stressed, not feeling well, sleeping poorly, etc. Did 7 easy on Tuesday, but really felt blah yesterday so just took it off. But I forced my fat ### out the door this morning to get something in.
Nine miles and 1,656' of elevation later, I feel much better. It helped that it was an amazing day - about 60 degrees, I was dripping sweat down my back onto my legs when I stopped at the peak for a few minutes to take in the views. I was feeling pretty good at that point so I decided to do some focused downhill work to trash my quads a bit, and hammered all the way back down the 1,500' hill. It varied from really technical, rocky, steep sections to steep fire road to groomed single track, and I just kept pushing. It was a total blast, especially having to really focus while moving quickly over the really rocky sections. I came home and downed nine Master Amino Pattern tabs to let the quad rebuilding begin.
I'm glad I got that "workout" in as while I'm always out on hilly stuff I haven't done much focused, hard downhill running this year. With a 50K coming up next weekend I would have liked to have gotten this in a day or two earlier as I do believe in the "it takes 10 days to gain the full benefits of a workout" theory, but 9 days should be close enough.
And while these aren't from today (sorry Tri), these capture the views and trails:
Above the fog
From the peak
Looking up
Singletrack mind
Thanks I will go with the 9/5 then. I have yet to run a successful half so I am not so sure about the 1:25. My last half my avg HR was 172. I am hoping that once the weather gets above 30 I will speed up.I usually did the 9/5, but sometimes the 8/4 when I was feeling lazy.
Dude - those HR numbers are outstanding! You're in 1:25 shape, IMO.
Wow, that's interesting you're LT is lower but we have a similar mHR. My HM's are always around 178, but my LT training runs are usually around that 173-175 range.Thanks I will go with the 9/5 then. I have yet to run a successful half so I am not so sure about the 1:25. My last half my avg HR was 172. I am hoping that once the weather gets above 30 I will speed up.I usually did the 9/5, but sometimes the 8/4 when I was feeling lazy.
Dude - those HR numbers are outstanding! You're in 1:25 shape, IMO.
Can you wear headphones running at petit? Is it advisable if yes?WTF is going on here?!
No, but listen to your body. When things start barking don't ignore it, that's what leads to injury. Take it easy for a few to 10 days then try pushing yourself again and see how things are feeling after.This is the official running team, yes? If so, thought I'd share that I signed up for my first 5K. Decided to stop "planning" to get more active and just start doing it. Right now I'm training on the treadmill because the snow outside is still too deep to safely get around.
One question I'm wondering - I have some soreness currently in my hips, specifically the very top of my legs in front. I assume this is because I've been kicking things up a notch, so hopefully it just goes away in time. Anything specific I might need to be concerned about?
Good to see the race commitment!This is the official running team, yes? If so, thought I'd share that I signed up for my first 5K. Decided to stop "planning" to get more active and just start doing it. Right now I'm training on the treadmill because the snow outside is still too deep to safely get around.
One question I'm wondering - I have some soreness currently in my hips, specifically the very top of my legs in front. I assume this is because I've been kicking things up a notch, so hopefully it just goes away in time. Anything specific I might need to be concerned about?
Unfortunately there isn't one scheduled, I wish there was. In the past I have run them 10 weeks out from the marathon and while I was always disappointed with my results they were a good marathon predictor.When is your tune-up half, pbm?
Unfortunately there isn't one scheduled, I wish there was. In the past I have run them 10 weeks out from the marathon and while I was always disappointed with my results they were a good marathon predictor.When is your tune-up half, pbm?
In 2012 I ran a 1:30:49 half and I figured that a 3:12 marathon was possible with 10 additional weeks of training. However who goes for a 3:12 when a 3:10 is your BQ time. I went for a 3:10 and ended up with a 3:14.
In 2013 I ran a 1:29:22 half off of base training, so I figured after following the Pfitz plan I could run a 3:08 and ended up with a 3:08:11.
There are 3 tuneup races scheduled in the Pfitz plan and I am having a tough time finding races to run. I think I will just run tempo runs for the first two, but I really would like to run a 10k on 4/4. Before my 2013 marathon I ran a 10k at the same point in the schedule and it was a huge confidence boost as I ran it in 38:18 which is my best race since getting back into running.
Oh as to why I didn't schedule half during this training cycle, I am an idiot
I always (well, since 2010, anyways) throw in a half marathon about a month before a marathon. Marathon training with long tempos gets you is such great half marathon shape. I always feel like I can PR the half at that point. And it's nice to have something to show for all the hard work in case things don't work out as planned during the marathon.Unfortunately there isn't one scheduled, I wish there was. In the past I have run them 10 weeks out from the marathon and while I was always disappointed with my results they were a good marathon predictor.When is your tune-up half, pbm?
In 2012 I ran a 1:30:49 half and I figured that a 3:12 marathon was possible with 10 additional weeks of training. However who goes for a 3:12 when a 3:10 is your BQ time. I went for a 3:10 and ended up with a 3:14.
In 2013 I ran a 1:29:22 half off of base training, so I figured after following the Pfitz plan I could run a 3:08 and ended up with a 3:08:11.
There are 3 tuneup races scheduled in the Pfitz plan and I am having a tough time finding races to run. I think I will just run tempo runs for the first two, but I really would like to run a 10k on 4/4. Before my 2013 marathon I ran a 10k at the same point in the schedule and it was a huge confidence boost as I ran it in 38:18 which is my best race since getting back into running.
Oh as to why I didn't schedule half during this training cycle, I am an idiot
I run 9/5 tempos on the scheduled races on his plan too. I'm a tempo wh0re.
You have got me thinking about it and I see there is one 3/22 in Ned's state.I always (well, since 2010, anyways) throw in a half marathon about a month before a marathon. Marathon training with long tempos gets you is such great half marathon shape. I always feel like I can PR the half at that point. And it's nice to have something to show for all the hard work in case things don't work out as planned during the marathon.
What state are you in?You have got me thinking about it and I see there is one 3/22 in Ned's state.I always (well, since 2010, anyways) throw in a half marathon about a month before a marathon. Marathon training with long tempos gets you is such great half marathon shape. I always feel like I can PR the half at that point. And it's nice to have something to show for all the hard work in case things don't work out as planned during the marathon.
I completely agree, Juxt. And I didn't mean to say that I don't run tune-up HM's. I always do and have always set a HM PR during a tuneup. The volume you run for the full sets you up perfectly for the HM.You have got me thinking about it and I see there is one 3/22 in Ned's state.I always (well, since 2010, anyways) throw in a half marathon about a month before a marathon. Marathon training with long tempos gets you is such great half marathon shape. I always feel like I can PR the half at that point. And it's nice to have something to show for all the hard work in case things don't work out as planned during the marathon.
Looks like a great tune up course for Boston!pbm - the Ceasar Rodney HM? That's a challenging, but fun course. If you end up running it, I can give you a scouting report. I know all the hills up there like the back of my hand. This link has the elevation chart - http://www.halfmarathons.net/course-map-caesar-rodney-half-marathon/
Thanks guys, I signed up.Looks like a great tune up course for Boston!pbm - the Ceasar Rodney HM? That's a challenging, but fun course. If you end up running it, I can give you a scouting report. I know all the hills up there like the back of my hand. This link has the elevation chart - http://www.halfmarathons.net/course-map-caesar-rodney-half-marathon/
Put a little more energy into patting yourself on the back and you'd probably be below 180. Wait, did I just say that? Good to hear you're getting some mojo back! I truly enjoy not fully understanding your bike and swim successes.Quick self-serving (and motivating update):
I was getting pretty tubby over the winter (horrible personal stuff that thankfully appears to be subsiding). So at the start of February I weighed 189 - ugh. Fighting weight should be sub 175 and ultimate awesomeness would be achieved at 163. So, yeah, not good. I set goals of 180 at the end of February, 175 end March, 170 April, 165 May. On February 14th (just after Mardi Gras) - 188. Ugh.
This morning - 180.2.
Onward and downward!
WTG tubbyQuick self-serving (and motivating update):
I was getting pretty tubby over the winter (horrible personal stuff that thankfully appears to be subsiding). So at the start of February I weighed 189 - ugh. Fighting weight should be sub 175 and ultimate awesomeness would be achieved at 163. So, yeah, not good. I set goals of 180 at the end of February, 175 end March, 170 April, 165 May. On February 14th (just after Mardi Gras) - 188. Ugh.
This morning - 180.2.
Onward and downward!
Quick self-serving (and motivating update):
I was getting pretty tubby over the winter (horrible personal stuff that thankfully appears to be subsiding). So at the start of February I weighed 189 - ugh. Fighting weight should be sub 175 and ultimate awesomeness would be achieved at 163. So, yeah, not good. I set goals of 180 at the end of February, 175 end March, 170 April, 165 May. On February 14th (just after Mardi Gras) - 188. Ugh.
This morning - 180.2.
Onward and downward!
Congrats on being only 20 lbs overweight.Quick self-serving (and motivating update):
I was getting pretty tubby over the winter (horrible personal stuff that thankfully appears to be subsiding). So at the start of February I weighed 189 - ugh. Fighting weight should be sub 175 and ultimate awesomeness would be achieved at 163. So, yeah, not good. I set goals of 180 at the end of February, 175 end March, 170 April, 165 May. On February 14th (just after Mardi Gras) - 188. Ugh.
This morning - 180.2.
Onward and downward!
Welcome!New to the thread. Started running about a year ago, and have been training on the treadmill in the winter. Typically do 8 miles @ 8min/mi 3 times a week. I was asked to do a half marathon with people from work, so I'm taking the plunge in early April. I took a look at the calculators in the OP, and it has me at about a 1:48 for 13.1. Is it all in my head, or is this possible based upon where I am right now? I guess I'm asking strategy, because I'd assume to go another 5.1 miles, I'm pushing my pace up into the 9 minute mile arena, and gauging how I feel. Going to do some outside runs coming up in March with the weather in SE PA getting (hopefully) a little better and test this out. Do you guys find if you can consistently run X pace for Y miles, ticking the pace up Z will get you within the range of a target time for a race? I think that's where I'm struggling with the online calculators.
Thanks in advance, and I'm glad I finally have a reason to pop into this thread.
Don't worry too much about the race goal until you get outside for some runs. The first ones might seem sluggish vs. the treadmill. But I agree that if you're holding 8's for 8, you have a good shot at extending that out to 13.1. Remember that you won't be able to improve much over the two weeks prior to the race, so get outside as soon as you can!New to the thread. Started running about a year ago, and have been training on the treadmill in the winter. Typically do 8 miles @ 8min/mi 3 times a week. I was asked to do a half marathon with people from work, so I'm taking the plunge in early April. I took a look at the calculators in the OP, and it has me at about a 1:48 for 13.1. Is it all in my head, or is this possible based upon where I am right now? I guess I'm asking strategy, because I'd assume to go another 5.1 miles, I'm pushing my pace up into the 9 minute mile arena, and gauging how I feel. Going to do some outside runs coming up in March with the weather in SE PA getting (hopefully) a little better and test this out. Do you guys find if you can consistently run X pace for Y miles, ticking the pace up Z will get you within the range of a target time for a race? I think that's where I'm struggling with the online calculators.
Thanks in advance, and I'm glad I finally have a reason to pop into this thread.
Did a high ropes course with my 9 year old about 2 months ago. I went up to make sure he was safe. Yeah, right. Kid was 2 obstacles ahead of me at all times and constantly asking why I was so slow. He thoroughly trounced me.Rest day turned into 90 minute rock climbing with my 12yo. My grip is weak
What is your price limit? The Tom Tom is only $100 and may get you what you want. The polar M400 does 4 data fields (and a nice return to start feature). The 310XT also does (and does lots of other stuff, but is a bit bulkier than some). I'm sure the running Garmins (620, etc.) will do what you want, but $$$.Nice 5 miles for my last run before 40.
And on the birthday note...will be getting a new watch soon. My 305 hasn't been able to keep any more than 40-50 minutes charge...now lately it has had trouble even taking a charge at all.
Think I am ready for a change...but looking around, trying to figure out if any options allow for 4 data fields on one screen like the 305 can?
I like having total time, total mileage, lap time and HR all one the screen.
I could probably do without if I needed to...but that is one thing I really like.
Had been thinking about waiting for the VivoActive...but looking at it, Im not sure its what is best for me (and the way it sets out the data looks odd to me too).
Is it all just something you get used to no matter what? I may be able to get by with only 3 data fields I guess...another thing to get used to thouh.
Just wondering.
I know there are several that like the TomTom