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The Steelers have given up, like, 8 rushing touchdowns to runners this year. Murray isn't any better of a bet for a TD than Bell is, IMO. If Murray doesn't score, it's feasible he gets 25 touches for 65-70 yards.Hence, the remotest consideration for Bell.
I have the same choice, Murray or Bell. But seeing as I am starting Stafford, Calvin, and Scheffler, I think Bell might be overdoing it.I will be at the game though, and there's nothing cooler than watching your fantasy guys do well live. But I think I'm sticking with Murray. I agree that Murray is going to get more carries and has a better chance for a TD. Bell could get lucky and get a bunch of 2nd half carries, but you know Murray will see the ball a lot.start Murray, he is going to get 25 touches to Bell's 12-15 and is a much better bet for a TD. going to catch a lot of passes as well. unless you think Bell is going to more than double Murray's YPC Murray is the way to go. there is a chance the Lions are routing the Cardinals early and Bell climbs toward 15-20 rushes but it's more likely he gets 9-12 carries and 3 catches.Pretty much how I'm viewing it, yeah. My options aren't exactly lighting the world on fire. Had rostered just about every Denver back not named Moreno in this setup for the stretch run. That's worked out great.In this particular league, it's going to be a question of playing either Bradshaw(no), Murray(terrible matchup), Montell Owens(no) or Bell. I could start more than one of them, but I'm only required to start a single runner. Of that crop Bell clearly has the best matchup, and since it's a PPR he should score something regardless of how the Lions use the two backs this week.
I don't enjoy having to entertain the idea of having Joique freaking Bell as the custodian of my playoff hopes at RB for the week....but I'm at least considering it and not thinking it's completely asinine at this point. I don't necessarily believe he's better than LeShoure at all. That's not part of the equation to me. He was already getting catches though, and now he could be in line for double digit carries too, against what should be an ace matchup. That's all I'm chasing here if I do, indeed, decide to roll him out there.
Ridley appears to be the best back, I would go with him.
Appearances can be deceiving!
Lynch ran a 4.46 40.
Deciding between Bell and Powell at RB2.oof.It seems Powell get a touchdown more often though.It doesn't matter though, I have other a lot of other injuriesto deal with.Any given Sunday though.
This is so tough. In a similar boat. Have to select 2 of Murray/Ridley/Bell in a PPR. Ridley is on the bench at the moment. He put up garbage against Sea and the late TD was a saving grace v Houston. Bell at least gets catches, so I feel he is an OK play this week.
this is now 3 or 4 people considering this move. It might work out of course but the odds clearly say the move is to play Murray. just look at the touches, Murray has 44 carries and 8 catches in the 2 games since he has come back. Bell's last 6 games he has totaled 46 carries and his last 4 games he totaled 8 catches. Murray has scored each of the last 2 weeks, Bell has 2 TDs in his last 12 games. LeShoure remains the primary GL back and will get half the carries. It's possible it will be like JAX in week 9 where Bell had the whole 4th quarter to himself and got a TD to have his best game of the season but it's more likely he will get 9-12 rushes for probably 45-60 yards with a few catches. Murray will get 20-25 rushes and 4 catches with a better shot at a TD. one guy is going to touch the ball twice as much with a better shot at a TD.'nyy45 said:
I don't know that Murray is going to have a better shot at a touchdown. Pittsburgh run defense is strong. "Better shot" in the sense that he'll touch the ball more and could break one? Sure, fine. I can see arguing that logic.Expecting Murray to score a touchdown as a given though....is pretty much going against every scrap of evidence the Steelers D has provided to date in '12. They just haven't given up many rushing TDs.Not saying I've decided to bench Murray for Bell at this point, but I don't think it's as cut and dried as you're making it out to be. Particularly in a PPR league. Murray could wind up with 25 total touches, yes. And he could just as easily wind up with only 65 or 70 total yards on those touches(as he did last week). If Murray doesn't find the EZ, Bell probably has just a good a chance to get the same, or greater, yardage totals on less touches due to his matchup...with the shot that he gets a larger load if the game gets out of hand.I haven't made up my mind yet, because I don't see Murray as the clear winner in the argument this week. That's the rub.
Bell should get more yards per carry and catch for sure, but the touch difference should make that up. you can't expect much more than 5 YPC for Bell or much less than 3 YPC for Murray (could be higher and lower but don't think you can expect more or less). so Murray 22-66 will get you a point or two more than Bell's 10-50. as far as shot at a TD, if the Cowboys are at the 1 yard line Murray will get his shot. it's doubtful anyone but Murray will get a rushing TD for Dallas and average RB against the Steelers has scored a TD 62% of the time this year so I'll give Murray a 60% shot at a TD. Arizona has allowed 9 rushing TDs compared to the Steelers 8 (even with the Cardinals giving up 4 last week) so taken ridiculously literally again a team has a 69% shot at a TD vs them. LeShoure is probably a 2-1 favorite for the TD so Bell probably has a 25% shot at a TD. that's how I see it, I don't expect everyone to see it the same way but just giving you my take
Hopefully this prediction is based on more than just the fact that he had 11 touches yesterday. I'm not sure I'd use yesterday's game on its own to say that Bell seems like he's on his way to 160-240 touches this season. Neither would I use yesterday's game to say that it seems like Bush will get 25 touches regularly (400 for the season).
Until Broyles comes back, when they double team Calvin, Bush and Bell are the only talent out there.
My projection was based on a combination of factors:
Thanks. Good stuff. Didn't realize Detroit averaged that many plays last year. Yesterday may not have been as far from the norm as I was initially thinking. (And, honestly, didn't really know how productive Bell was last year until now.
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personally I would, but then again I also own bell.I think bell is a flex / marginal bye week fill in as it is, legit rb1 if bush is out.
Thomas has value, but Bell has more. Bell would be a legit starter if Bush goes down, but you could plug him in now and get low end RB2 production (60 total yards and the occasional TD). Thomas COULD emerge as the "starter" in NO, but he's only going to have FF starter appeal if Sproles gets hurt.
I'm not sold that Bell is going to get all the goal-line work. Bush had two short TDs called back in the opener - one from the 1, one from the 7.
I remember owning Sproles last year and when he went down, I thought PT would be a stud. But it didn't turn out that way. Instead, Lance Moore went off in Sproles absense. PT comes up with a studly game when nobody is expecting it. Good luck guessing which game that is.
In my PPR league last year, Bell was RB23 as a role player. That was basically playing behind Mikel and Kevin Smith even for most of the year. Bell and Wilson would be a nice RB2 combo to play. You could Lean Bell initially until Wilson shows you something in consecutive weeks. Bell = good, now the opportunity is >
Wow, I wasn't aware of this--I got him on the cheap in my dynasty league and there is no way I'm dealing him. If live to see a prolific offense sign him to a lucrative deal next season. That said, I can't see the Lions not matching
I think the variance in leagues and lineups makes people do this. I'm not sure that people don't want McCoy, Wilson, Lacy, as their first three RBs, but it doesn't happen if you happened to draft a top TE or WR.
Terms like "starting" and "backup" don't apply as clearly as they did 5 years ago, and the two teams you mentioned are probably the best examples right now.
Okay, leave out the PPR and he still had 89 total yards and two scores. That is on-field mediocrity? Okay. And don't give me the "his scores were flukey" nonsense. He scored twice. It matters. No, he is not gonna score every week, but he should get enough touches every week to be a very solid flex player on a consistent basis, PPR or not.
