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Jeremy Maclin (2 Viewers)
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Footballguy
I may be wrong, but under the circumstances the Eagles would have had to reach an injury settlement that would have been muchmmore than Maclin's minimum. It might also indicate their intentions of resigning him next year. At this point DJax appears to be the only legitimate WR threat on the roster.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I can't help but think how much better that entire offense would be if Maclin was on the field.
I knew after the first game or two defenses would come to their senses and just take Djax away, since there is nobody else other than average targets to throw to.
I knew after the first game or two defenses would come to their senses and just take Djax away, since there is nobody else other than average targets to throw to.
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
I do not know why the quote says it is a weak WR market...in fact, it is a great one. If you had guys like Demaryius, Calvin and Fitz ready to hit the market, each would be franchised and not even get a sniff of freedom. On the flipside, you have about 7 top 32 guys about to hit the market (albiet on the lower end of that 32) and none is worth a franchise tag on their given team. A team like my Jets could literally go from worst WR core in the NFL to top 10 in the league, if they managed to get a couple of these guys.
massraider
Footballguy
Names that give people woodys never make it to free agency. That's his point. That list has solid starters that have played on winning teams are are NOT old. The top of the free agency market is as strong as it gets.None of those names give me anything close to a woody
Well if that was his point, he made it poorly by including this statement:Names that give people woodys never make it to free agency. That's his point. That list has solid starters that have played on winning teams are are NOT old. The top of the free agency market is as strong as it gets.None of those names give me anything close to a woody
A team like my Jets could literally go from worst WR core in the NFL to top 10 in the league, if they managed to get a couple of these guys.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Greg JenningsNames that give people woodys never make it to free agency. That's his point. That list has solid starters that have played on winning teams are are NOT old. The top of the free agency market is as strong as it gets.None of those names give me anything close to a woody
Wes Welker
Dwayne Bowe
Mike Wallace
Danny Amendola
That was the top of last year's class which I would put miles ahead of this year's, especially given the way people though of those guys at the time.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I think Indy would be a great fit.
MAC_32
Footballguy
i expect both KC and Cleveland to be linked to him until he signs.
MAC_32
Footballguy
philly connections, panthers will be linked with every free agent wr
loose circuits
Footballguy
was Mcdermott in Philly w/ Maclin? May not have been same side of ball, but a connection none the less
SWC
Bromigo
i hope he goes somewhere with a good qb i do not want to see him go to like the dolphins or something or maybe cleveland brownstains where they will have some crapload throwing him the ball i want to see this guy go out and kick butt and that will not happen if he goes to those two teams take that to the bank brohans
loose circuits
Footballguy
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
If CLE were to get him theyd have a hell of a trio with Gordon, Maclin, and Cameron. If they draft a Manziel, Bridgewater, or Bortles in the 1st no excuses that the QB didnt have the weapons to succeed.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
I hope he buys a house near Boston in a few months.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
If you're Jeremy Maclin, why would you sign a 1 year deal with the Jets instead of the Eagles? If the Jets want Maclin, I'd assume they have to up the years or make the 1 year deal some crazy amount of money.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
For fantasy purposes, I sure as hell hope he doesnt end up in NYJ
Hedgehog
Footballguy
Agreed - if he wants to take a 1 yr deal to reestablish his value - worst O in the league is not where to do it...however, Jetsd have money and his former offensive coordinator - wouldnt shock me if they outbid Philly who has others to re-sign.
Shutout
Footballguy
Maybe he thinks in New York he is THE MAN (the target monster) wheras in Philly he's just another guy.
But I agree, I hope he doesn't go to the Jets.
Insein
Footballguy
I wouldn't mind Maclin back again for the right price. Something like a 2 year deal for $10 mil to prove it again. But with the draft class, I don't think we'll find a better talent out there tight now. So they'll probably have to pay more.
I think someone might take a chance and give him a 4 year deal for $30 mil though because there's always one GM.
I think someone might take a chance and give him a 4 year deal for $30 mil though because there's always one GM.
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Terpman22
Footballguy
I doubt he gets a big deal, or signs with the Jets, even if its for 3-4 mil more. Sure, he can sign with the Jets, say, for 1/5 and ends up with 43/678/5, or with us for 1/3 and he gets a stat line of maybe 70/1000/7 - who knows, but as far as future $$$ is concerned, staying with us vs. Jets would be a no brainer for next year. Now, if he wants to stay in NY for a while and they break the bank - good for him.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I actually think he should do this. Look for a one year deal and go to a great offense and then cash in after he has a good year. Detroit, New Orleans, New England, or even stay in Philly.
I kind of like Maclin, but has this ever happened? I can't think of a single case where a guy has gone to a new team on a 1 year deal and parlayed a good performance into a multi-year deal. The instances of WRs going to a new team, new offense, and new QB and still being productive in year 1 with that organization are pretty slim (they happen, like VJax, but not often). His best shot is probably Philly, but if someone else offers him a 2-3 year deal, he should probably take it. He's still young enough to get a big contract after that.
Terpman22
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
The conventional wisdom for a long time was that receivers wouldn't do well in year one on a new team, and for the most part, that held true. But it can happen, and it seems to be happening more in the "new NFL". Not all of these guys were on one year deals, but some first year success stories include Owens in Philadelphia, Welker and Moss in New England, Welker in Denver, VJax in Tampa, Boldin in San Francisco, Marshall in Chicago (although he had already played with Cutler), Gonzo in Atlanta, Mason in Baltimore, and also guys like Garcon and Harvin who were hurt their first year but showed flashes immediately when they did play.
Still, it's fairly rare, and all of those guys were pretty good. So you could make the case that it's hard to do well on a new team, and only top talents can do it. Or you can make the case that good receivers are hard to come by, and most teams don't let them go when they're still playing well, so you end up with guys like Jennings, Galloway, Ochocinco, and so on playing poorly when they're old dogs learning new tricks, and middle of the road guys like Mike Wallace and Deion Branch leaving great situations for worse ones and being exposed for what they really were.
I don't know how talented Maclin really is, but he'll get a shot to prove it. I think his best value would be to his current team or to the Chiefs. As a fantasy asset, his best value is definitely in Philly. But from an NFL player standpoint, the Jets seem like an ideal opportunity for him - they seem to like him, they have a decent run game to take the heat off him, and he'd have a chance to lead the team in targets right away. Even if they don't offer him a multi year deal - which they certainly might - he would have a chance to make a name for himself in a big media market and could earn a big extension to stick around with their young QB. If I were his agent, I'd still be pulling for Philly - for mostly the same reasons - but the Jets seem like the logical fit to me if he can't.
Still, it's fairly rare, and all of those guys were pretty good. So you could make the case that it's hard to do well on a new team, and only top talents can do it. Or you can make the case that good receivers are hard to come by, and most teams don't let them go when they're still playing well, so you end up with guys like Jennings, Galloway, Ochocinco, and so on playing poorly when they're old dogs learning new tricks, and middle of the road guys like Mike Wallace and Deion Branch leaving great situations for worse ones and being exposed for what they really were.
I don't know how talented Maclin really is, but he'll get a shot to prove it. I think his best value would be to his current team or to the Chiefs. As a fantasy asset, his best value is definitely in Philly. But from an NFL player standpoint, the Jets seem like an ideal opportunity for him - they seem to like him, they have a decent run game to take the heat off him, and he'd have a chance to lead the team in targets right away. Even if they don't offer him a multi year deal - which they certainly might - he would have a chance to make a name for himself in a big media market and could earn a big extension to stick around with their young QB. If I were his agent, I'd still be pulling for Philly - for mostly the same reasons - but the Jets seem like the logical fit to me if he can't.
I'm not sure that was conventional wisdom since there was no shortage of big name WRs being signed by new teams. However, the Chiefs suggestion is interesting as he'd be reunited with Reid which would ease the transition, similar to Marshall/Cutler. As for the Jets, he'd be stuck with Geno Smith. That's not an exciting prospect.
Also, I know recovery has been impressive for a lot of guys, but let's not just totally write off the fact that he's coming off of major surgery. If he goes somewhere with a decent QB to be the WR1, I'll be watching his ADP closely but I'm not paying a whole lot for a guy coming off of an ACL tear playing in a new system. Just doesn't seem like a smart gamble unless I'm getting good odds (WR5 price with WR3 upside).
msudaisy26
Footballguy
KFFL) Philadelphia Eagles impending free-agent WR Jeremy Maclin said he would to re-sign with the team this offseason and that the team has stated they want him back.
cstu
Footballguy
They better offer him a long-term deal because they aren't getting him for just one year.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/26/source-cooper-is-more-of-a-priority-than-maclin/
Source: Cooper is more of a priority than MaclinPosted by Mike Florio on February 26, 2014, 2:30 PM EST
Source: Cooper is more of a priority than MaclinPosted by Mike Florio on February 26, 2014, 2:30 PM EST
FUBAR
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Awful Waffle
Footballguy
Eagles close to signing Riley Cooper to a new deal per Jeff McLane http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/Eagles-and-Riley-Cooper-near-a-new-contract.html
EDIT - still think Maclin signs on a one year deal here. Why wouldn't he? Blow up in Chip Kelly's offense, cash in in 2015.
EDIT - still think Maclin signs on a one year deal here. Why wouldn't he? Blow up in Chip Kelly's offense, cash in in 2015.
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