Is the 2024 RB Class really that bad? (2 Viewers)

[titusbramble]

I personally don't think any of these RBs, with the possible exception of Brooks, has any long term value. Sure, some will have short term value most likely, but no way in hell I waste a #1 pick on them.

In the current era of RBBC everywhere, scarcity of second contracts of any note outside of überstuds, and the continued evolution of game planning leading to an even greater pass:rush ratio (not helped by going on decades of awful rule changes), are we getting into a situation where a RB with long term value is going to be very much the exception, and if we're able to pick someone up in a draft who has a couple of seasons of high RB2 numbers and then flares out to a flex play until he's done at 26, do we actually start considering that a good result? How many RBs still on their first contract are we actually confident about having starter value in, say, 2026?

 

[BigTex]

I personally don't think any of these RBs, with the possible exception of Brooks, has any long term value. Sure, some will have short term value most likely, but no way in hell I waste a #1 pick on them.

Things will be clearer after draft and camp but agree even though there’s a few who I believe could fit the bill but if player like Taylor, Saqoun, and Jacob’s who are all fairly young are having a hard time then considering all things can we actually count on any running backs to have long term value?

You get your rookie deal, a franchise tag or two if the top 10 back but then just let go as a FA. Assumption on my part but it wouldn’t surprise me if those rich old farts made a pact not to sign RBs to big long term contracts.

Tex

 

[Biabreakable]

I personally don't think any of these RBs, with the possible exception of Brooks, has any long term value. Sure, some will have short term value most likely, but no way in hell I waste a #1 pick on them.

In the current era of RBBC everywhere, scarcity of second contracts of any note outside of überstuds, and the continued evolution of game planning leading to an even greater pass:rush ratio (not helped by going on decades of awful rule changes), are we getting into a situation where a RB with long term value is going to be very much the exception, and if we're able to pick someone up in a draft who has a couple of seasons of high RB2 numbers and then flares out to a flex play until he's done at 26, do we actually start considering that a good result? How many RBs still on their first contract are we actually confident about having starter value in, say, 2026?

The average number of productive seasons for fantasy for a RB who has one at all is two seasons.

Expectations of a long term RB career have been off for a long time. It's just becoming more obvious.

 

[zamboni]

I personally don't think any of these RBs, with the possible exception of Brooks, has any long term value. Sure, some will have short term value most likely, but no way in hell I waste a #1 pick on them.

In the current era of RBBC everywhere, scarcity of second contracts of any note outside of überstuds, and the continued evolution of game planning leading to an even greater pass:rush ratio (not helped by going on decades of awful rule changes), are we getting into a situation where a RB with long term value is going to be very much the exception, and if we're able to pick someone up in a draft who has a couple of seasons of high RB2 numbers and then flares out to a flex play until he's done at 26, do we actually start considering that a good result? How many RBs still on their first contract are we actually confident about having starter value in, say, 2026?

The average number of productive seasons for fantasy for a RB who has one at all is two seasons.

Expectations of a long term RB career have been off for a long time. It's just becoming more obvious.

For sure - I’ve come to view RBs in keeper/dynasty leagues not too much differently than in redraft leagues. Strike while the iron is hot and don’t overthink future years.

 

[Gally]

You get your rookie deal, a franchise tag or two if the top 10 back but then just let go as a FA. Assumption on my part but it wouldn’t surprise me if those rich old farts made a pact not to sign RBs to big long term contracts.

It's another reason not to look too long term in dynasty evaluations. You just can't count on anything beyond 2 years because so much changes.

 

[Biabreakable]

I personally don't think any of these RBs, with the possible exception of Brooks, has any long term value. Sure, some will have short term value most likely, but no way in hell I waste a #1 pick on them.

In the current era of RBBC everywhere, scarcity of second contracts of any note outside of überstuds, and the continued evolution of game planning leading to an even greater pass:rush ratio (not helped by going on decades of awful rule changes), are we getting into a situation where a RB with long term value is going to be very much the exception, and if we're able to pick someone up in a draft who has a couple of seasons of high RB2 numbers and then flares out to a flex play until he's done at 26, do we actually start considering that a good result? How many RBs still on their first contract are we actually confident about having starter value in, say, 2026?

The average number of productive seasons for fantasy for a RB who has one at all is two seasons.

Expectations of a long term RB career have been off for a long time. It's just becoming more obvious.

For sure - I’ve come to view RBs in keeper/dynasty leagues not too much differently than in redraft leagues. Strike while the iron is hot and don’t overthink future years.

The thing is if a RB puts a few games together you can try to trade them too if you don't think it's going to last long.

It is pretty much a loss as far as total roster value when you invest in a RB, either through draft or trade, but you will always need more.

 

[Hankmoody]

There’s not one WR in this draft I’d take over Puka, Jefferson or Lamb then my fill-ins are Garrett Wilson, Jordan Addison, George Pickens, Quentin Johnston, Rashod Bateman, Micheal Pittman, DeAdre Hopkins, Deebo Samuels,

The reason to take BPA in rookie drafts is because the whole goal is to find a multi year starter worthy player. That has value across the league. Reaching for a lesser player (that is already a crap shoot whether or not any player reaches starter level quality) only diminishes the chances of finding that starter level player. Reaching for a position of need for a player that has a lesser chance of being relevant is just lowering your hit rate. If you draft to a position of strength because that player is more likely to "hit" gives you pieces to maneuver with. Draft a lesser player at a position of need that is more likely to not hit is just a wasted pick.

Exactly. If you're so loaded at WR trade Deebo for a better RB and draft the BPA which may happen to be a WR.

 

[menobrown]

I can't help but fill like the NFL is indicating how they feel about the rookie RB class with the way they handled FA.

As well as how they feel about the WR class but we knew that already.

 

[JamboTaylor]

From my experience if the community is low on a particular position/draft class that’s when you go target them specifically and get good value. Like previously stated they’ll be 2 or 3 RB’s, that’ll probably be at least top-20 at the position for a few years, just need to pick the right ones

 

[Chaos34]

pick the ones drafted to play behind on the best offenses with the best ols

 

[beef]

I can't help but fill like the NFL is indicating how they feel about the rookie RB class with the way they handled FA.

As well as how they feel about the WR class but we knew that already.

Does seem to be a sign, and definitely not a top heavy RB class. It's also risky waiting for the draft too and some of these teams acquiring RBs are strong playoff contenders. Get your guy and make a SB run. I could see a couple of these teams still go RB in 2-4 rounds. Even the bigger FA signings could end up being 2 year deals.

 

[acarey50]

I can't help but fill like the NFL is indicating how they feel about the rookie RB class with the way they handled FA.

As well as how they feel about the WR class but we knew that already.

Does seem to be a sign, and definitely not a top heavy RB class. It's also risky waiting for the draft too and some of these teams acquiring RBs are strong playoff contenders. Get your guy and make a SB run. I could see a couple of these teams still go RB in 2-4 rounds. Even the bigger FA signings could end up being 2 year deals.

Packers seem like a prime candidate to possibly do something like this. The Jacobs deal is essentially a 1 year deal as I understand it, they let Jones go, and AJD is a free agent. They have the room and a team on the timeline that snagging a talented young RB makes sense as they don't need one to produce this year necessarily, but if they get one that can step in in year 2, they can save a lot of money by moving on from Jacobs at that point.

 

[BigTex]

There’s not one WR in this draft I’d take over Puka, Jefferson or Lamb then my fill-ins are Garrett Wilson, Jordan Addison, George Pickens, Quentin Johnston, Rashod Bateman, Micheal Pittman, DeAdre Hopkins, Deebo Samuels,

The reason to take BPA in rookie drafts is because the whole goal is to find a multi year starter worthy player. That has value across the league. Reaching for a lesser player (that is already a crap shoot whether or not any player reaches starter level quality) only diminishes the chances of finding that starter level player. Reaching for a position of need for a player that has a lesser chance of being relevant is just lowering your hit rate. If you draft to a position of strength because that player is more likely to "hit" gives you pieces to maneuver with. Draft a lesser player at a position of need that is more likely to not hit is just a wasted pick.

Exactly. If you're so loaded at WR trade Deebo for a better RB and draft the BPA which may happen to be a WR.

These league mates don’t trade their RBs like that, RBs are like fine gold.

Tex

 

[BigTex]

From my experience if the community is low on a particular position/draft class that’s when you go target them specifically and get good value. Like previously stated they’ll be 2 or 3 RB’s, that’ll probably be at least top-20 at the position for a few years, just need to pick the right ones

This

Tex

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

I think better than most people are talking about

My mocks for my home league have these guys dropping from pick 17 to 38 and just feels like value when I put them in. With SF, you have 6 QBs more than likely gone by pick 16 and a Rattler or Pratt May fall in the 24-36 range. The TEs especially in Premium will have top 6 guy and then another in top 15 picks. Then you might have a Stover, Sinnott type go in round 2. Then throw in outstanding WR class(11guys chance to be in top 18 of my draft) and the RBs are just dropping to value points. I think 4 of these guys will be solid RBs. When you look at the top 20 guys now, how many highly rated. Hall, Bijan, McCaffery(but age now), Taylor, Gibbs, Etienne, Barkley, Walker, Jacobs, Mixon the most highly decorated coming in. Rest are late or FA pickups. Room for this class to have an impact for sure At great price point.

You forgot Trey Benson who I think in right situation can be solid pro.

Benson showed flashes but was so lightly used (averaged 12 carries per game and never topped 1,000 rushing yards) who can honestly say?

 

[JohnnyU]

I think better than most people are talking about

My mocks for my home league have these guys dropping from pick 17 to 38 and just feels like value when I put them in. With SF, you have 6 QBs more than likely gone by pick 16 and a Rattler or Pratt May fall in the 24-36 range. The TEs especially in Premium will have top 6 guy and then another in top 15 picks. Then you might have a Stover, Sinnott type go in round 2. Then throw in outstanding WR class(11guys chance to be in top 18 of my draft) and the RBs are just dropping to value points. I think 4 of these guys will be solid RBs. When you look at the top 20 guys now, how many highly rated. Hall, Bijan, McCaffery(but age now), Taylor, Gibbs, Etienne, Barkley, Walker, Jacobs, Mixon the most highly decorated coming in. Rest are late or FA pickups. Room for this class to have an impact for sure At great price point.

You forgot Trey Benson who I think in right situation can be solid pro.

Benson showed flashes but was so lightly used (averaged 12 carries per game and never topped 1,000 rushing yards) who can honestly say?

6 games under 4 yards per carry and a bad game against a horrible LSU defense. Never seemed to be the best player on the filed. High bust risk.

 

[Soulfly3]

Ill start taking a swing on RBs in rnd 3 of our rookie draft. Maybe.

These guys are stinky.

 

[BigTex]

How does what we know now changes things for this class?

Tex

 

[Crippler]

How does what we know now changes things for this class?

Tex

If you are desperate for a RB, you have to reach for Brooks or Benson. RB3 Corum is in RBBC at best and probably backup. Tracy and Laube ended up in good situations and could surprise but they are far behind. Going to push top 2 up especially with depth of WR.

 

[IHEARTFF]

How does what we know now changes things for this class?

Tex

If you are desperate for a RB, you have to reach for Brooks or Benson. RB3 Corum is in RBBC at best and probably backup. Tracy and Laube ended up in good situations and could surprise but they are far behind. Going to push top 2 up especially with depth of WR.

Yeah brooks and then benson will push to starters sooner or later but everybody else is fenced in or waiting for the starter to leave or get hurt

 

[BigTex]

How does what we know now changes things for this class?

Tex

If you are desperate for a RB, you have to reach for Brooks or Benson. RB3 Corum is in RBBC at best and probably backup. Tracy and Laube ended up in good situations and could surprise but they are far behind. Going to push top 2 up especially with depth of WR.

Yeah brooks and then benson will push to starters sooner or later but everybody else is fenced in or waiting for the starter to leave or get hurt

I still like Llyod in GB he might not get time this year but stash for next.

I also am a fan of a few others but need a little more time to process.

Tex

 

[IHEARTFF]

How does what we know now changes things for this class?

Tex

If you are desperate for a RB, you have to reach for Brooks or Benson. RB3 Corum is in RBBC at best and probably backup. Tracy and Laube ended up in good situations and could surprise but they are far behind. Going to push top 2 up especially with depth of WR.

Yeah brooks and then benson will push to starters sooner or later but everybody else is fenced in or waiting for the starter to leave or get hurt

I still like Llyod in GB he might not get time this year but stash for next.

I also am a fan of a few others but need a little more time to process.

Tex

Same. He’s the leader of the waiting group. Jacobs is there for 1-2 years.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

How does what we know now changes things for this class?

Tex

If you are desperate for a RB, you have to reach for Brooks or Benson. RB3 Corum is in RBBC at best and probably backup. Tracy and Laube ended up in good situations and could surprise but they are far behind. Going to push top 2 up especially with depth of WR.

Yeah brooks and then benson will push to starters sooner or later but everybody else is fenced in or waiting for the starter to leave or get hurt

Davis should have a short yardage role in BUF. ~20 lbs heavier than Cook, and BUF loves throwing a wet blanket on Cook’s FF value.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

How does what we know now changes things for this class?

Tex

If you are desperate for a RB, you have to reach for Brooks or Benson. RB3 Corum is in RBBC at best and probably backup. Tracy and Laube ended up in good situations and could surprise but they are far behind. Going to push top 2 up especially with depth of WR.

Yeah brooks and then benson will push to starters sooner or later but everybody else is fenced in or waiting for the starter to leave or get hurt

Didn’t Brooks tear his ACL in mid-November?

 

[BigTex]

How does what we know now changes things for this class?

Tex

If you are desperate for a RB, you have to reach for Brooks or Benson. RB3 Corum is in RBBC at best and probably backup. Tracy and Laube ended up in good situations and could surprise but they are far behind. Going to push top 2 up especially with depth of WR.

Yeah brooks and then benson will push to starters sooner or later but everybody else is fenced in or waiting for the starter to leave or get hurt

Didn’t Brooks tear his ACL in mid-November?

Yes but not sure of time frame.

Tex

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

How does what we know now changes things for this class?

Tex

If you are desperate for a RB, you have to reach for Brooks or Benson. RB3 Corum is in RBBC at best and probably backup. Tracy and Laube ended up in good situations and could surprise but they are far behind. Going to push top 2 up especially with depth of WR.

Yeah brooks and then benson will push to starters sooner or later but everybody else is fenced in or waiting for the starter to leave or get hurt

Didn’t Brooks tear his ACL in mid-November?

Yes but not sure of time frame.

Tex

Just googled - Nov 14th.

 

[Ack88]

Brooks and Benson have immediate paths to day #1 value. Brooks should start by October. Sanders and Hubbard were brought in by the old regime. Conner will likely be 1a to Benson’s 1b but also has durability concerns. Lloyd is a wait and see guy.

There are no home runs but a few doubles here. A great class, no, but not terrible either.

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

How does what we know now changes things for this class?

Tex

If you are desperate for a RB, you have to reach for Brooks or Benson. RB3 Corum is in RBBC at best and probably backup. Tracy and Laube ended up in good situations and could surprise but they are far behind. Going to push top 2 up especially with depth of WR.

Vidal landed well.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Brooks and Benson have immediate paths to day #1 value.

You’re assuming Brooks has a best case recovery from his knee.

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

Brooks and Benson have immediate paths to day #1 value.

You’re assuming Brooks has a best case recovery from his knee.

He won’t be great at first but he will get opportunities. Vidal is in the best position. And Corum is in a great offense. Remember, both Gibbs and Robinson were in committees last year and did pretty good!

 

[JohnnyU]

Brooks and Benson have immediate paths to day #1 value.

You’re assuming Brooks has a best case recovery from his knee.

Clean ACL tear and no damage to other ligaments. No worries

 

[Crippler]

Brooks and Benson have immediate paths to day #1 value.

You’re assuming Brooks has a best case recovery from his knee.

He won’t be great at first but he will get opportunities. Vidal is in the best position. And Corum is in a great offense. Remember, both Gibbs and Robinson were in committees last year and did pretty good!

Way different draft capital here. Both though went very high in fantasy drafts. Can any of these RBs go top 5 in certain leagues. Rest will be drafted but more end of round 2, 3, 4 most likely.

 

[TripItUp]

Brooks and Benson have immediate paths to day #1 value.

A bit overly optimistic IMHO.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Clean ACL tear and no damage to other ligaments. No worries

Questionable talent level tho.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Brooks and Benson have immediate paths to day #1 value.

You’re assuming Brooks has a best case recovery from his knee.

He won’t be great at first but he will get opportunities. Vidal is in the best position. And Corum is in a great offense. Remember, both Gibbs and Robinson were in committees last year and did pretty good!

Neither of these dudes belong in a conversation with Gibbs.

 

[pinequick]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

Brooks and Benson have immediate paths to day #1 value.

You’re assuming Brooks has a best case recovery from his knee.

He won’t be great at first but he will get opportunities. Vidal is in the best position. And Corum is in a great offense. Remember, both Gibbs and Robinson were in committees last year and did pretty good!

Neither of these dudes belong in a conversation with Gibbs.

Why don’t we wait until after the season and see if they belong in the same sentence. Going into last season would you have thought that either Kyren Williams or Rachad White were in the same class? Talentwise I still don’t think they are in the same class. Fantasy wise, they were better. I only care about fantasy.

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

I think it’s better than you think.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

I think it’s better than you think.

It always is.

But it’s also a total crap shoot.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Why don’t we wait until after the season and see if they belong in the same sentence

I don’t think we have any choice. lol

Look, I have no doubt that a couple dudes from this draft will become FF relevant.

But long odds on picking the right one. A lot will have to do with timing, and likely injury to an incumbent. Or multiple incumbents.

 

[menobrown]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

Yes, mentioned something similar in TEP premium league of mine today and only difference was I added TE to RB in terms of not exactly the draft to fill a hole in your lineup.

There is exactly one TE and I would feel ok going into the season with as a starter and zero RB's. Yes some will emerge, and for sure I got a top few RB's, but in terms of trying to identify which one's will help next year it's a crapshoot.

So surprised Dallas blew the position off, Chargers only went for a RB that profiles more as a third down back, meanwhile the Jet's grab two of them, SF adds another RB and GB takes one of my favorite RB's in the draft after committing to Jacobs for two seasons. The class was weak, the NFL draft made it worse.

 

[pinequick]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

Yes, mentioned something similar in TEP premium league of mine today and only difference was I added TE to RB in terms of not exactly the draft to fill a hole in your lineup.

There is exactly one TE and I would feel ok going into the season with as a starter and zero RB's. Yes some will emerge, and for sure I got a top few RB's, but in terms of trying to identify which one's will help next year it's a crapshoot.

So surprised Dallas blew the position off, Chargers only went for a RB that profiles more as a third down back, meanwhile the Jet's grab two of them, SF adds another RB and GB takes one of my favorite RB's in the draft after committing to Jacobs for two seasons. The class was weak, the NFL draft made it worse.

And Miami(?). Maybe they know the tread on Mostert's tires... but taking a "legit" RB candidate from this year's class and putting him on that depth chart. No love for fantasy managers there.

 

[menobrown]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

Yes, mentioned something similar in TEP premium league of mine today and only difference was I added TE to RB in terms of not exactly the draft to fill a hole in your lineup.

There is exactly one TE and I would feel ok going into the season with as a starter and zero RB's. Yes some will emerge, and for sure I got a top few RB's, but in terms of trying to identify which one's will help next year it's a crapshoot.

So surprised Dallas blew the position off, Chargers only went for a RB that profiles more as a third down back, meanwhile the Jet's grab two of them, SF adds another RB and GB takes one of my favorite RB's in the draft after committing to Jacobs for two seasons. The class was weak, the NFL draft made it worse.

And Miami(?). Maybe they know the tread on Mostert's tires... but taking a "legit" RB candidate from this year's class and putting him on that depth chart. No love for fantasy managers there.

Yes, that was an unintended omission.

Also I forgot Denver. They will probably cut Perine, Javonte is in the last year of his deal and I think they really like Jaleel. I'd say there is a chance they moved Javonte if someone had a RB need, but for now it looks like that's another rookie drafted into a situation it's tough to project helping in 24.

I guess if the NFL did fantasy owners any favors they left some highly unproven, questionable if they got talent to be full time RB's in situations without a lot of massive comp.

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

I think it’s better than you think.

It always is.

But it’s also a total crap shoot.

I don’t know. Opportunity is huge. I don’t think Brooks will be full strength until next year but I do think he will be game ready to start the season. So he should get plenty of opportunities.

Vidal should win the starting job though Gus Bus could battle for it so training camp will be interesting and important.

I assume you have seen the quotes from the Rams about Corum. I believe that he is the best back in this class and I would have preferred he ended up in Dallas. I think Kyren is decent in short yardage but Corum is exceptional.

3-4 will produce top 24 numbers this year.

Trey Benson Arizona
Ray Davis Buffalo
Marshawn Lloyd Green Bay
Tyrone Tracy New York Giants

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

I think it’s better than you think.

It always is.

But it’s also a total crap shoot.

I don’t know. Opportunity is huge. I don’t think Brooks will be full strength until next year but I do think he will be game ready to start the season. So he should get plenty of opportunities.

Vidal should win the starting job though Gus Bus could battle for it so training camp will be interesting and important.

I assume you have seen the quotes from the Rams about Corum. I believe that he is the best back in this class and I would have preferred he ended up in Dallas. I think Kyren is decent in short yardage but Corum is exceptional.

3-4 will produce top 24 numbers this year.

Trey Benson Arizona
Ray Davis Buffalo
Marshawn Lloyd Green Bay
Tyrone Tracy New York Giants

I’m nowhere near as confident as you are with the bolded. I see a lot of role players and committees.

I’m more confident that a couple of these dudes will cap the ceiling of some of the players dynasty managers were counting on for big seasons.

I appreciate your enthusiasm for what I see as a very sub-par RB class.

 

[JoeJoe88]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

I think it’s better than you think.

It always is.

But it’s also a total crap shoot.

I don’t know. Opportunity is huge. I don’t think Brooks will be full strength until next year but I do think he will be game ready to start the season. So he should get plenty of opportunities.

Vidal should win the starting job though Gus Bus could battle for it so training camp will be interesting and important.

I assume you have seen the quotes from the Rams about Corum. I believe that he is the best back in this class and I would have preferred he ended up in Dallas. I think Kyren is decent in short yardage but Corum is exceptional.

3-4 will produce top 24 numbers this year.

Trey Benson Arizona
Ray Davis Buffalo
Marshawn Lloyd Green Bay
Tyrone Tracy New York Giants

This seems extremely optimistic.

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

I think it’s better than you think.

It always is.

But it’s also a total crap shoot.

I don’t know. Opportunity is huge. I don’t think Brooks will be full strength until next year but I do think he will be game ready to start the season. So he should get plenty of opportunities.

Vidal should win the starting job though Gus Bus could battle for it so training camp will be interesting and important.

I assume you have seen the quotes from the Rams about Corum. I believe that he is the best back in this class and I would have preferred he ended up in Dallas. I think Kyren is decent in short yardage but Corum is exceptional.

3-4 will produce top 24 numbers this year.

Trey Benson Arizona
Ray Davis Buffalo
Marshawn Lloyd Green Bay
Tyrone Tracy New York Giants

I’m nowhere near as confident as you are with the bolded. I see a lot of role players and committees.

I’m more confident that a couple of these dudes will cap the ceiling of some of the players dynasty managers were counting on for big seasons.

I appreciate your enthusiasm for what I see as a very sub-par RB class.

I understand your reticence. I agree that most people think this is a subpar class. I just think that if these rookie backs are so bad, how are they going to cut into the other backs’ production? If they suck, they won’t play. If they play, they have to produce to stay on the field. Pretty much every year you have 3-4 rookie backs who produce. I don’t think this year is any different.

 

[@GregoryLKellogg]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

I think it’s better than you think.

It always is.

But it’s also a total crap shoot.

I don’t know. Opportunity is huge. I don’t think Brooks will be full strength until next year but I do think he will be game ready to start the season. So he should get plenty of opportunities.

Vidal should win the starting job though Gus Bus could battle for it so training camp will be interesting and important.

I assume you have seen the quotes from the Rams about Corum. I believe that he is the best back in this class and I would have preferred he ended up in Dallas. I think Kyren is decent in short yardage but Corum is exceptional.

3-4 will produce top 24 numbers this year.

Trey Benson Arizona
Ray Davis Buffalo
Marshawn Lloyd Green Bay
Tyrone Tracy New York Giants

This seems extremely optimistic.

Maybe. How many do you think will finish in the Top 24?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If you didn't shore up your RB position in the (dynasty) offseason... there's not a ton of help here. This was a pretty brutal RB fantasy draft (I'm looking at you, Dallas).

I think it’s better than you think.

It always is.

But it’s also a total crap shoot.

I don’t know. Opportunity is huge. I don’t think Brooks will be full strength until next year but I do think he will be game ready to start the season. So he should get plenty of opportunities.

Vidal should win the starting job though Gus Bus could battle for it so training camp will be interesting and important.

I assume you have seen the quotes from the Rams about Corum. I believe that he is the best back in this class and I would have preferred he ended up in Dallas. I think Kyren is decent in short yardage but Corum is exceptional.

3-4 will produce top 24 numbers this year.

Trey Benson Arizona
Ray Davis Buffalo
Marshawn Lloyd Green Bay
Tyrone Tracy New York Giants

I’m nowhere near as confident as you are with the bolded. I see a lot of role players and committees.

I’m more confident that a couple of these dudes will cap the ceiling of some of the players dynasty managers were counting on for big seasons.

I appreciate your enthusiasm for what I see as a very sub-par RB class.

I understand your reticence. I agree that most people think this is a subpar class. I just think that if these rookie backs are so bad, how are they going to cut into the other backs’ production? If they suck, they won’t play. If they play, they have to produce to stay on the field. Pretty much every year you have 3-4 rookie backs who produce. I don’t think this year is any different.

See, there’s the disconnect,

Respectfully, I’m not saying they’re bad, or that they suck. Far from it. I believe they have skills.

Anyone with enough skill to get drafted doesn’t suck. But the skills they do have can be used in roles.

Take the dude in BUF, for example. 20 lbs heavier than Cook. The Bills have shown a propensity for bringing in mediocre “size RBs”, whether it’s to keep Cook fresh, or spare Allen a little wear and tear in short yardage, that is a role.

And those are potentially touches that Cook won’t get. And some of them will be high leverage touches, like RZ/GL.

So yeah - dude doesn’t suck. He’s unlikely to be a 3-down back any time soon, but he can sure hurt Cook’s FF value.

NFL is all about role players at RB now. Wave of the future (and largely present)

These dudes might be good receivers, or good short yardage, or good as scat backs.

There’s only one football.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Maybe. How many do you think will finish in the Top 24?

I’d set the O/U at .5

And I’d bet the under.