ZADO
Footballguy
Also i see the coaches working hand in hand with the administration, lots of great football minds to bounce opinions off of . I know they said a GM has the final say but his final say may be influenced by others.
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2024 Las Vegas Raiders thread - Brock party (4 Viewers)
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ZADO
Footballguy
and saved a million bucks
LawFitz
Footballguy
PFF Free Agency Tracker
Only RB left worth considering IMO is D'Onte Foreman, who actually could be a decent complimentary 'thunder' back to Zamir's 'lightning'. And at this point, I'm sure he'd come at near the league minimum salary.
A bunch of vet OTs remain unsigned. Guessing there may be a league-wide gap between what the OTs think they should be getting and how the league values them. A bunch of decent OGs left too.
Old pals Quinton Jefferson and Adam Butler still out there at DT. Same for Hankins and John Jenkins. Hoping for a couple names here on the cheap soon.
Young Edge rushers mostly picked over, save for Chase Young, who would be way to expensive and wouldn't fit the current Raiders roster anyway. Lots of oldies remain unsigned, so maybe a rotational value guy can be found for some golden years.
LB/CB/S all have some interesting names still on the list, but most of the good ones are oldies too.
Only RB left worth considering IMO is D'Onte Foreman, who actually could be a decent complimentary 'thunder' back to Zamir's 'lightning'. And at this point, I'm sure he'd come at near the league minimum salary.
A bunch of vet OTs remain unsigned. Guessing there may be a league-wide gap between what the OTs think they should be getting and how the league values them. A bunch of decent OGs left too.
Old pals Quinton Jefferson and Adam Butler still out there at DT. Same for Hankins and John Jenkins. Hoping for a couple names here on the cheap soon.
Young Edge rushers mostly picked over, save for Chase Young, who would be way to expensive and wouldn't fit the current Raiders roster anyway. Lots of oldies remain unsigned, so maybe a rotational value guy can be found for some golden years.
LB/CB/S all have some interesting names still on the list, but most of the good ones are oldies too.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Here's another, more comprehensive FA Tracker. RBs still look bare, unless we have any old version of Zeke Elliott fans in here.
massraider
Footballguy
I was watching Christian WIlkins mic'd up on YouTube, and he was clowning with Butler when they were both in MIA. Can't hurt, right?
A guy like Butler, maybe has a standing offer, and is someone else's 2nd choice, so he has to wait. I'm hoping he comes back.
ICON211
Footballguy
I am a huge Foreman fan. I thought he was going to be a really good NFL RB coming out of college. Then he tore his achilles and that set him back, but he has shown well everywhere he has been. For some reason or another no one has seemed to give him a legit shot at being a true starting NFL RB. I think he would be an excellent signing.
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massraider
Footballguy
Raiders did NOT use June 1 designation for Renfro and Jimmy Viagra.
Little less dead cap this year, but nothing next year. Huge fan of this move. We have guys to re-sign
Little less dead cap this year, but nothing next year. Huge fan of this move. We have guys to re-sign
krsone21
Footballguy
I like this move. It's not a splashy move but he is one of the better blocking TE's in the NFL. Plus he is able to catch the ball when asked to.
massraider
Footballguy
Calvin Ridley clearly used the Patriots to get a better deal from the teams he really wanted to go to.Great times in NE
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Just win baby is a good dude. Cut him some slack. I laughed at his telesco dig. Would we not be talking **** if mcdaniels got another gig? I’d talk mad crap, in jest, about carr in here if some of us weren’t still betrothed to him
LawFitz
Footballguy
Amazing how clean the Raiders cap is for 2025. As of right now, no dead cap at all, and even including Devante's soon to bloat deal + Wilkins + Minchew, they have $100 MM in cap space available.
They have a lot of room to sign a few more guys this year and roll the contracts forward to next year and beyond.
They have a lot of room to sign a few more guys this year and roll the contracts forward to next year and beyond.
massraider
Footballguy
They are spreading some of Jimmy G. Not a huge amount.
But we won't get 24 mill of cap space till June. Right now around 12-13 mill
ZADO
Footballguy
Difference is im assuming a lot of us in here arent hanging out in rival threads poking them for reactions , i could be wrong tho.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Here is my thoughts on the roster right now in relation to FA/Draft
QB- We obviously need to make one big move here. The tea leaves seem to point towards us doing something in the draft but I wouldn't shut the door on us trading for Fields. The take on Fields now is that the market dried up with the moves that have been made which means the comp the Bears can get for him is less. I would be very happy with us giving a 4th for him which would indicate that is with the blessings of Getsy.
RB- Again, some work is needed here. I didn't realize Bolden is a FA. He will not be back. Which leaves us White, Abdullah and Brown. Brown has not shown anything to date so I am looking at it as we have two RB's under contract. I would be happy bringing in a vet which I don't think we need to rush in on. As time goes, they dollars go down. The top talent is gone but there are guys on the market still that we could bring in and they could contribute. I think it is highly likely we look to draft someone and if not, pick up another vet on the cheap in the second round of FA after the draft.
WR- Adams and Meyers are a great duo and I like that Tucker can bring that speed. We get real thin, real fast after that. There are a ton of 'depth' type of WR's out there that we can pick up later and fill out the roster. We could also look at picking someone up in the draft.
TE- I am excited to see what Mayer brings this season. Bryant is a downgrade from Hooper but I liked the flashes I saw from Fotheringham. We may bring someone in to compete but I don't think we need to really rack our brains looking for additions.
OL- We need to get busy here. Let's assume that they are good with Munford taking over at RT (he showed he can hold that position down). It seemingly looks like the left side is locked in. We still need to look at the Guard position. Van Roten is a FA, we could easily bring him back. I really did think we would let James walk and move Parham over to C and need to fill two guard positions. Swinging back to RT, how confident are they in Munford? If they don't make a move then it would seem they are really confident in him but it seems like that could be a spot we could spend some money.
DL- Wilkens was huge. With the only exception being Jones (who I had my reservations about) there was no one I wanted more than him. He fits that culture that AP is looking to bring back and no doubt he will be enthusiastic about the Jordan Rules. Not just the 10 sacks but the 62 pressures (our highest from the interior last year was Tillery at 29). We need to add to the DT I believe though. And even though Maxx never comes out, we have Koonce and then Wilson... you can never have too many pass rushers in this league. Picking up an older cheap vet that can come in and pressure is not a bad thing. One big thing to figure out is how to do they expect to use Wilson. Will they kick him in on the inside in passing downs? If so, our need to add to the DT position is lessened. If that really isn't in the cards then we have a few guys to add.
LB- We run with two LB's. Spillane is the guy. AP said he wanted to build his defense around him. Deablo has developed. I would love to see an upgrade on him for a coverage LB but I am not sure who that is. Devin White is fast as heck but he isn't better than Deablo in coverage. Most of the other big name LB's on the market still are more of that run stuffer types than coverage guys.
CB- I love Jones on the team and we know Hobbs is legit. Losing Amik was the only thing so far where I was not happy to see but at the same time, Amik is not irreplaceable. Does Bennett continue to develop? After those three, we get thin fast. I would like to see us spend some money on another CB. I am not sure who that is though and if we don't, I am not going to crawl into the fetal position and cry about it but we are building a defense that can win games... to do that, we need three good to great CB's on the field. I think we have 2 and hope for a third and then very thin depth.
S- I like Epps and Moehrig. No reason to make any big moves here.
We all know QB is the big position here. I don't think we need to make any drastic moves for other positions but we can do some addition and tweaking here and there. For QB, I think we are going to be patient and see how the draft shapes up. Minshew is not ideal but if we miss on getting a legit starting QB in the draft (possible) then he can be a bridge for a year or O'Connell beats him out. I love the money we spent on Wilkens and think it will make a tremendous difference to a defense that really came together last year. Now with a legit threat in the interior, my expectation is that this is a top ten defense. When was the last time we had that in Raider Nation?
QB- We obviously need to make one big move here. The tea leaves seem to point towards us doing something in the draft but I wouldn't shut the door on us trading for Fields. The take on Fields now is that the market dried up with the moves that have been made which means the comp the Bears can get for him is less. I would be very happy with us giving a 4th for him which would indicate that is with the blessings of Getsy.
RB- Again, some work is needed here. I didn't realize Bolden is a FA. He will not be back. Which leaves us White, Abdullah and Brown. Brown has not shown anything to date so I am looking at it as we have two RB's under contract. I would be happy bringing in a vet which I don't think we need to rush in on. As time goes, they dollars go down. The top talent is gone but there are guys on the market still that we could bring in and they could contribute. I think it is highly likely we look to draft someone and if not, pick up another vet on the cheap in the second round of FA after the draft.
WR- Adams and Meyers are a great duo and I like that Tucker can bring that speed. We get real thin, real fast after that. There are a ton of 'depth' type of WR's out there that we can pick up later and fill out the roster. We could also look at picking someone up in the draft.
TE- I am excited to see what Mayer brings this season. Bryant is a downgrade from Hooper but I liked the flashes I saw from Fotheringham. We may bring someone in to compete but I don't think we need to really rack our brains looking for additions.
OL- We need to get busy here. Let's assume that they are good with Munford taking over at RT (he showed he can hold that position down). It seemingly looks like the left side is locked in. We still need to look at the Guard position. Van Roten is a FA, we could easily bring him back. I really did think we would let James walk and move Parham over to C and need to fill two guard positions. Swinging back to RT, how confident are they in Munford? If they don't make a move then it would seem they are really confident in him but it seems like that could be a spot we could spend some money.
DL- Wilkens was huge. With the only exception being Jones (who I had my reservations about) there was no one I wanted more than him. He fits that culture that AP is looking to bring back and no doubt he will be enthusiastic about the Jordan Rules. Not just the 10 sacks but the 62 pressures (our highest from the interior last year was Tillery at 29). We need to add to the DT I believe though. And even though Maxx never comes out, we have Koonce and then Wilson... you can never have too many pass rushers in this league. Picking up an older cheap vet that can come in and pressure is not a bad thing. One big thing to figure out is how to do they expect to use Wilson. Will they kick him in on the inside in passing downs? If so, our need to add to the DT position is lessened. If that really isn't in the cards then we have a few guys to add.
LB- We run with two LB's. Spillane is the guy. AP said he wanted to build his defense around him. Deablo has developed. I would love to see an upgrade on him for a coverage LB but I am not sure who that is. Devin White is fast as heck but he isn't better than Deablo in coverage. Most of the other big name LB's on the market still are more of that run stuffer types than coverage guys.
CB- I love Jones on the team and we know Hobbs is legit. Losing Amik was the only thing so far where I was not happy to see but at the same time, Amik is not irreplaceable. Does Bennett continue to develop? After those three, we get thin fast. I would like to see us spend some money on another CB. I am not sure who that is though and if we don't, I am not going to crawl into the fetal position and cry about it but we are building a defense that can win games... to do that, we need three good to great CB's on the field. I think we have 2 and hope for a third and then very thin depth.
S- I like Epps and Moehrig. No reason to make any big moves here.
We all know QB is the big position here. I don't think we need to make any drastic moves for other positions but we can do some addition and tweaking here and there. For QB, I think we are going to be patient and see how the draft shapes up. Minshew is not ideal but if we miss on getting a legit starting QB in the draft (possible) then he can be a bridge for a year or O'Connell beats him out. I love the money we spent on Wilkens and think it will make a tremendous difference to a defense that really came together last year. Now with a legit threat in the interior, my expectation is that this is a top ten defense. When was the last time we had that in Raider Nation?
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Don't draft on roster (except QB), draft on talent. I really, really like Ben Sinnot and would love to have him. Cade Stover's a good ol' boy that would be great too.
ZADO
Footballguy
Watching Minshew and Wilkins meet the Raiders press and team welcomes on both X and Instagram, they fit right in , i mean perfectly. Wilkins started off yelling RAAAAYDEEEERRRSSSS so ya , thats awesome. Minshew looks like Punter Coles twin 
, he had great in the hall encounter with Maxx , called him BIG BOY and they hugged and laughed , this is gonna be a fun season to watch.
, he had great in the hall encounter with Maxx , called him BIG BOY and they hugged and laughed , this is gonna be a fun season to watch.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I would love to see you guys competitive again and like the off-season you had. Seems like things are heading in the right direction. Long term QB obviously on the list, but that is the majority of the league. Defense should be fun to watch.
massraider
Footballguy
Just watched that.Watching Minshew and Wilkins meet the Raiders press and team welcomes on both X and Instagram, they fit right in , i mean perfectly. Wilkins started off yelling RAAAAYDEEEERRRSSSS so ya , thats awesome. Minshew looks like Punter Coles twin
Really good vibe round the team. Just need the QB
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I just had a guy on FB tell me to learn the game because I said that we really only ran defense out of the nickel. He said that Graham only did that because we had no LB depth that I should learn the game.
I hate people.
I hate people.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Minshew gives me that laid back Stabler type vibe. I don't know if you can listen to him and not like him.
Love the energy from Wilkins.
Both seem like not only good Raider fits for now but also from our history.... which is kind of what AP is looking to bring back.
Love the energy from Wilkins.
Both seem like not only good Raider fits for now but also from our history.... which is kind of what AP is looking to bring back.
Most fans are idiots. There’s no point arguing with them online that’s for sure. This is the only place I come to talk Raiders.
ZADO
Footballguy
The comments on FB fan sites and on Instagram are mostly negative and unreadable . There are so called fans that hate every single move the Raiders make , i mean every thing. Yoiu try to throw a positive spin on things and they just post that laugh emoji , the way people used to do in so many Football guys threads in the past ,and thats stopped ,thank god .
joey
Footballguy
This is literally why I stopped going to raiders games a couple of years after I moved out to the Bay Area.
I was so excited to move only 30 minutes from Oakland’s Coliseum. I went to a few games and finally got fed up listening to fans OF MY OWN TEAM yelling out crap that didn’t make sense, sometimes about players who weren’t even in the game. Just utter ignorant garbage.
I’ll watch from home, thank you very much.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
I thought it was funny.
Telesco’s been here for 5 minutes. I’m not quite ready to fall on my sword for the guy.
and that’s true for any new signings.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Yea, I just responded "Yes, I forgot all teams still run a 4-3. Thanks for setting me straight."
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I don't mind criticism as long as it has some actual knowledge, understanding, logic, etc behind it. I am not all knowing about football. I am willing to learn and hear other perspectives. Just make it make sense.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
One thing I just saw about Wilkins that I didn't know. He is tied for third for most snaps played since 2022 only behind Hutchinson and Crosby. We got two guys that don't come off the field.
massraider
Footballguy
BUT WHO WILL FILL THE MATT MILLEN ROLE?!?
Chadstroma
Footballguy
They basically have no WR's now.Chargers released WR Mike Williams
I mean, you kick the tires but you don't sign him unless you get a big discount maybe to stick it to the Dolts and the injury concerns.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Raiders save 4.2M by restructuring WR Jakobi Meyers.
That’s why I hoped he didn’t hire him.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
One of the reasons for me too. I still don’t think the Harbargh and Chargers marriage lasts much longer than 3 years.
Tau837
Footballguy
Just to set the record straight, I haven't been in here trying to "poke for reactions." I think of this forum like hanging out with buddies at a bar drinking beer and talking sports. If I was hanging out with friends who are Raiders fans, I would absolutely make the same joke that triggered all of this reaction. Just as those friends would make jokes to me about how bad the Chargers have been for so long, etc. My brother-in-law is a Raiders fan. We have this kind of conversation all the time.
When I posted the informational posts, I did that because I know about Telesco's history as GM and thought you guys might actually be interested.
As for being in the rival thread, your thread is a lot more active than the Chargers thread. I wish there were this many fans posting about the Chargers in this forum.
Again, I've adjusted my approach going forward. I won't be posting/joking about Telesco any more.
Tau837
Footballguy
They are not in rebuild mode. They plan to contend this year. Jury's out on how likely they are to be successful at that, but that's the plan. If it wasn't, they would have traded Mack and Bosa, but they restructured both instead.
massraider
Footballguy
Vikings trade to NE at 3 is my hope. Maybe NE wants the ammo, not the QB.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
A not very good line, no WR or TE's and a RB that has a significant injury history. Good luck being competitive in the AFC.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Awesome reply. #Respect
Tau837
Footballguy
I agree they have a lot of issues. But they have Herbert and a new coaching staff that could get more out of the carryover players, like the OL. And now they suddenly have a lot of cap space. Harbaugh's track record gives me some hope, but I'm not holding my breath.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Call it what you will, y’all don’t have any wrs and your td machine rb flew the coop as well. I know that the nation would be be losing its mind if the raiders had gotten rid of meyers and davante as well this off season. Granted they don’t have a Herbert.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I mean, yea, you got Herbie... but on offense that is almost it. Gus is decent but the chances of him going down are pretty good. You guys better draft all whole lot of offensive players or you guys will end up losing a bunch of games like 3-10 (assuming Bosa and Mack stay healthy).
The Dolts use to scare me but thankfully I underestimated how bad their coaching staff was. Now, the only team that I feel we need to worry about in the division is the Chefs. And then a whole lot of good teams once you get out of the division and into the conference.
LawFitz
Footballguy
You vastly underestimate the effectiveness of having an elite battery at Coach + QB + OL. Harbaugh will find RBs and WRs in the haystack somewhere.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Herbert has done just fine without Allen and Williams in the past...
www.espn.com
Justin Herbert's surprising stats without Keenan Allen, Mike Williams - ESPN Video
With the Chargers moving on from Keenan Allen and Mike Williams, we look back at how Justin Herbert has fared without his top wideouts.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
The OL is not elite. Average at best.
Until they make more moves, they have a QB on offense and then hopes and prayers.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
They aren't going to be signing impact players with $28 million to spend to fill a bunch of holes. They will need to do some great drafting to get several immediately impactful rookies to put around Herbie.re: Chargers…Everyone realizes the season doesn’t start tomorrow, right? Like, they can draft and sign players still.
Re: Raiders…is Minshew really our starting QB this year?
ZADO
Footballguy
ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler reports the Raiders have re-signed DT Adam Butler to a one-year deal.
Butler returns to Las Vegas where he had nice season in 2023 season racking up five sacks. He’ll team up with Maxx Crosby and newly acquired Christian Wilkins for what should be one of the most dominant fronts in the NFL
Butler returns to Las Vegas where he had nice season in 2023 season racking up five sacks. He’ll team up with Maxx Crosby and newly acquired Christian Wilkins for what should be one of the most dominant fronts in the NFL
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