leftcoastguy7
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Rams whole team looks pathetic.
Are we brave enough to give Stacy another start visiting the Bucs this week?
Are we brave enough to give Stacy another start visiting the Bucs this week?
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Since my other options include Doug Martin and a former Ravens RB (plus Ellington): yep!
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
I was all set to bench Stacy today on the road vs TB with Davis starting at QB...
Then I read both Buc starting DEs are out for today. STL is obviously going to try to protect their inexperienced QB by committing to the run game. The question is, can they?
My other options at RB are very weak this week. I don't want to turn this into a WDIS, so I won't ask anyone to compare them.
I'm just wondering if any Stacy owners see a ever-so-slight glimmer of hope this week or if he's still nailed to your bench?
Then I read both Buc starting DEs are out for today. STL is obviously going to try to protect their inexperienced QB by committing to the run game. The question is, can they?
My other options at RB are very weak this week. I don't want to turn this into a WDIS, so I won't ask anyone to compare them.
I'm just wondering if any Stacy owners see a ever-so-slight glimmer of hope this week or if he's still nailed to your bench?
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
I can't believe it's week 2 and I'm probably going with Greene over Stacy.
If I had Ingram, he's be a no-brainer.
Nice game yesterday. What we've learned:
-Zac Stacy is the heart of this offense yet again
-Stacy's YPC went down as they were aligning for the winning FGA and being safe with the ball; 3-4 attempts for 1 yd maybe? Otherwise, for having no runs of greater than 15yds, he looked good....getting significant yds after contact and moving the chains
-Cunningham hasnt materialized as much of a threat at all running the ball. Benny also missed a block or two in pass pro. If Mason was going to make a move to #2, now would be his chance....but apparently Mason isnt progressing as expected.
-The fumble Stacy had was one where he will not be blamed in the film room. A random foot from a player that was diving someplace kicked it loose.
-The offense is centered around run & play-action pass/boots. It reminds me of what Seattle tries to do, but with less talent at all spots. If they can keep games close, then they'll be able to pass effectively and move the chains. But until the Rams can pass effectively when everyone knows they're passing, then defenses will continue to load up on the run and that will limit Rams RB potential
Prognosis:
Stacy will face a mess of 8 man fronts yet again this year. But all signs through two games show that he will be the centerpiece of the offense and will likely be as rock-steady a #2 RB as you can have. But asking for RB1 stats from a Rams RB this year is asking too much.
-Zac Stacy is the heart of this offense yet again
-Stacy's YPC went down as they were aligning for the winning FGA and being safe with the ball; 3-4 attempts for 1 yd maybe? Otherwise, for having no runs of greater than 15yds, he looked good....getting significant yds after contact and moving the chains
-Cunningham hasnt materialized as much of a threat at all running the ball. Benny also missed a block or two in pass pro. If Mason was going to make a move to #2, now would be his chance....but apparently Mason isnt progressing as expected.
-The fumble Stacy had was one where he will not be blamed in the film room. A random foot from a player that was diving someplace kicked it loose.
-The offense is centered around run & play-action pass/boots. It reminds me of what Seattle tries to do, but with less talent at all spots. If they can keep games close, then they'll be able to pass effectively and move the chains. But until the Rams can pass effectively when everyone knows they're passing, then defenses will continue to load up on the run and that will limit Rams RB potential
Prognosis:
Stacy will face a mess of 8 man fronts yet again this year. But all signs through two games show that he will be the centerpiece of the offense and will likely be as rock-steady a #2 RB as you can have. But asking for RB1 stats from a Rams RB this year is asking too much.
Two steps forward, one step back...I guess it's good it's not the other way around.
Stacy looked as good as he has in his career this week. He looked quick and showed excellent leverage as he took hits, bled off them, and racked up more yards...whether on the ground or as a dump-off option in the passing game. Davis' pick-6 came on a target to Stacy, but it was clearly Davis' fault as he didnt see the LB creeping into the look-in-pass area. Stacy did not convert on a 4th and 1 which looked like a slow developing trap-play and also got stopped on a 2nd and goal from the 1. PFF gave Stacy a very high plus rating and it was well deserved.
Stacy's disappearance in the second quarter remains unexplained. That caused his total snap % to dip below 50%. The rest of the game seemed normal for the team's #1 RB; at around 60-70%. Yet again Cunningham did not take advantage of the opportunity going 9 for 32 (3.22 YPC) vs Stacy's 12 for 67 and 5 catches on 6 targets for and 54 yds.
Tre Mason was again inactive with Trey Watts getting the nod at #3; he went 5 for 24. Jared Cook and Kenny Britt both had 1 carry each.
When push comes to shove it was a good day with strong total yards and strong yds per snap and yds per touch. Now to comb the papers to figure out where he disappeared to in the second quarter. If it was just to work Benny in more, then such experiments should come to an end soon. it is very clear who the best back on this team is right now.
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/22/all-star-team-of-the-week-week-3/
He made the PFF all-stars this week:
He made the PFF all-stars this week:
UFGator0587
Footballguy
With the brutal upcoming schedule, middling offense, and the injury, are you guys trying to move Stacy while there's still some semblance of value? Obviously you probably aren't gonna get much but it's hard to see him retaining his current value over the next few weeks, let alone getting any better. This could get real bad real soon.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Stacy will soon be out of the committee, he sucks.
Cunningham/Mason combo for the future.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
Early 4th and he has 8 carries, Cunningham 5 (GL work), Mason 5, and even Austin 3.
He's barely been in at all during the second half.
It was fun while it lasted.
He's barely been in at all during the second half.
It was fun while it lasted.
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cstu
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Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
His fantasy outlook is pretty bleak right now. What are owners doing with him in redraft and dynasty?
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
i have B.Cunningham handcuffed....i may make a play for Mason on the waiver wire and dump Stacy
Will drop him in a redraft in this week's waivers and try to get Mason instead. Haven't started him once and probably won't do so for the rest of the season.
shader
Footballguy
I really like Stacy. Watching him closely for two years has really made me a believer in him. Yeah, he's not explosive, but he's a proto-typical RB. But with all these RB's touching the ball, in that division...Stacy's outlook isn't great. The annoying RB in this potential RBBC is Cunningham, because Cunningham really doesn't do anything better than Stacy, so they just kill each other's value.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
I own stacy ,have since last year, and i can say that Cunningham just runs harder . Stacy runs forward and into a pile of defenders while Benny has a few juke moves and gains more yards. I say Benny is running better .shader said:
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Same (redraft).C-Bound said:
Ryan Swope's Pro Career
Footballguy
ThisC-Bound said:
I own Stacy in 2 out of 3 dynasties.
He is at his best when there is a hole to slam through - or at least space to accelerate. At that point, he can fully leverage his superb lower body strength and very low center of gravity to break tackles and, in general, plow through defenders. Elusiveness is definitely not his strength, but when the holes are there - like last season - that wasn't a problem at all. Highlights abound.
This season there are no holes and no space to exploit. I don't follow OL enough to have a theory why, but it is clearly a very different dynamic in the StL offence. The current OL yields very different types of opportunities, much more around the edge. Tre Mason (who is very similar style-wise to the departed Daryl Richardson) seems much better equipped to produce in that setting.
When not coming from concussion, [SIZE=13.63636302948px]Stacy will still be guaranteed maybe half the snaps because of his vastly superior pass protection skills, but that's about it. [/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px]It doesn't look good for us owners unless you are in a heavy TD-premium league. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]Though as a Stacy owner I at least counlt enjoy watching Tre Mason get mauled every time by the 49ers rushers.[/SIZE]
He is at his best when there is a hole to slam through - or at least space to accelerate. At that point, he can fully leverage his superb lower body strength and very low center of gravity to break tackles and, in general, plow through defenders. Elusiveness is definitely not his strength, but when the holes are there - like last season - that wasn't a problem at all. Highlights abound.
This season there are no holes and no space to exploit. I don't follow OL enough to have a theory why, but it is clearly a very different dynamic in the StL offence. The current OL yields very different types of opportunities, much more around the edge. Tre Mason (who is very similar style-wise to the departed Daryl Richardson) seems much better equipped to produce in that setting.
When not coming from concussion, [SIZE=13.63636302948px]Stacy will still be guaranteed maybe half the snaps because of his vastly superior pass protection skills, but that's about it. [/SIZE][SIZE=13.63636302948px]It doesn't look good for us owners unless you are in a heavy TD-premium league. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=13.63636302948px]Though as a Stacy owner I at least counlt enjoy watching Tre Mason get mauled every time by the 49ers rushers.[/SIZE]
AuttieFootball
Footballguy
I wish McKinnon were available.
I'm not sure it makes sense to cut Stacy for Mason, which seems to be my best option.
I'm not sure it makes sense to cut Stacy for Mason, which seems to be my best option.
I'm doing it in a redraft, since I think I've seen enough of STL this season to know that he won't be THE back there. Therefore I won't be starting him this season on my team and Mason might(!) take the job and run away with it.
A case of choosing the unknown over the uninspiring known I guess.
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
What little hope was left just vanished.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Have you played fantasy football before? Stacy was was a high-plus RB in PFF in September and was actually the difference in one game for a win for me already this year. If you read upstream, you'd see many we're wise enough to handcuff him w/2 cheap guys whose value both plummeted in August due to inept pass blocking and other reasons; and Mason may turn out to be awesome or not someday, whatever...we got him cheaper than we thought we would in the Spring.
So we all continue along riding the '13 Stacy wave and hopefully a Mason '14 wave, but it's plain stupidity to try to knock Stacy 24/7.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
what did you hear in the presser? Did Fisher brush it off and promoted him to the first team? That would be sweet...
Soulfly3
Footballguy
18 touches to 7 v Cunningham.what did you hear in the presser? Did Fisher brush it off and promoted him to the first team? That would be sweet...
0 for Stacy
draw your own conclusions about who is first string now.
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Oh, yeah..that I could see anywhere including the 10 times you posted it already.18 touches to 7 v Cunningham.what did you hear in the presser? Did Fisher brush it off and promoted him to the first team? That would be sweet...
0 for Stacy
draw your own conclusions about who is first string now.
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