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I can't speak definitively on Jones, but Hurns has certainly shown more during his two years than Jones during his four. I was mainly just putting those out there because they were the closest comparable contracts.
I know they are still in good shape, but I was pretty shocked to already see them that close to the 2017 cap with some big guys (Bortles/Robinson) still coming up (their deals won't really hit until 2018). Those guys combined will likely be in the $35M range, so even with $30M to carry over, they aren't going to be in good shape very long. I was really surprised to see their 2017 cap number (with Hurns now) be almost at the $155 2016 cap number. The carry over will absolutely help, but so much of the big $$$ is very recent deals, so they aren't going to be free wheeling any longer and may have to make some tough calls. For instance, with Hurns, Bortles and Robinson, they would likely be at 2016 cap level in 2018 and that's with only 38 contracted players (including those 3). Nothing like some of the salary cap disaster teams, but they are closer to the cap than you think.
Agreed on Hurns, good for him.
Yeah, after it seems they paid Ivory way more than anyone else would have, it makes you wonder if they didn't pay Hurns more than they had to. But it was wise to do the extension now because some of that signing bonus goes to this year while he's still on a rookie contract. That way they'll be paying him less than $10M/year when his extension kicks in.
Bold is the only news. The rest is Roto guesses.
You know guaranteed salaries are paid by the new team, right? 2018 salary doesn't guarantee until next March so he's a free cut after the season if they so choose.
The contract isn't bad at all. It's $7M, $7M, $7M, $9.5M. Other WR in that range include Sanu, Crabtree, Robert Woods, Travis Benjamin, Garcon. Only 2017 is guaranteed (which is irrelevant because if they trade for him they won't cut him this year) so no long term risk. He's 25 years old and as a 23 year old went for 60/1000/10 in 15 games. I can't imagine they are truly looking to move him but if they are they will find a partner fast.
If my bench weren't so short id grab for WR2/3 production. Bortles was looking for him after ARob went out early.
Oh i don't know, plenty of guys get big contracts and don't completely disappear. Plus, i'm betting a decent chunk of that contract isn't guaranteed.
Hurns is a good kid with his head on straight. I'm chalking up his poor '16 to awful quarterbacking and injuries. Was he overpaid? Yeah. But I don't hold that against him.
So he had a pretty good season a couple years ago with Bortles as his QB, got paid and fell off the face of the Earth. Yet he now has a stud RB ok his team and it's Bortles fault he's been bad? Ok so maybe the coaching is just terrible but the fact remains that he got paid and then proceeded to play a whole lot worse.
Bortles threw for 500 fewer yards and 12 fewer TDs in 2016. He had 29 fewer 20+ yard passes and his 40+ dropped over 60%. Yes... there was a demonstrable statistical drop from Bortles.
When your receivers, across the board have a down year, I think it is safe to lay more of the blame on the commonality. In this case Bottles.
You are going to double down on a check being the cause of a drop in production?
Agreed. He was very good in fantasy 2 seasons ago. Last year battled injuries and was buried on the depth chart. This year Hurns and Lee are all they have. He needs to be owned.
Depends on what you need. If you need a solid WR for bench depth that you can plug in and and get good production, Hurns is your guy. Higgins is more of a lottery ticket type WR.
Feels like a major downgrade right?
