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I'm strongly in favor of universities being non-woke. I'm not in favor of universities being anti-woke. It seems to me that UATX is planting a flag in the culture wars just like other schools -- they're just planting their flag on the other side. These institutions shouldn't do this sort of thing.
I guess we'll have to see how they handle dissenting commentary. If they invite woke commentators to speak and then have faculty and students shout them down and threaten them during their speech, or start teaching religious doctrine in the classroom then we know they're no better.
I'm not too familiar with the whole plan but would agree with Insein on this unless there are some documented instances of them specifically banning woke dialogue.
I’m trying to figure out how your last paragraph applies to trade as well as race and gender.
Well, I don't think this is an actual university you can get a degree from. At least, not yet.
So, at this point would it be fair to say that the "University of Austin" is more of a fundraising exercise? I guess that would be more on-brand.
I actually mentioned this plan by UTA in the "woke" thread several days ago. I don't see it as a "anti-woke" message as more of a "anti-censorship or free speech" approach. I find it remarkable that this has to even be considered. Censorship has gotten totally out of control.
Sure, and higher ed in the US is a big enough industry that there's room for all sorts of institutions with different missions. Maybe my post would make more sense if I made a similar argument about religious institutions. There are lots of schools out there that are overtly Christian. Notre Dame, BYU, and Baylor are three obvious ones, but there's also lots of small schools that have religious instruction as part of their mission. It's sort of common for those schools (the small ones, not necessarily the Notre Dames of the world) to require faculty to sign a profession of faith as a condition of employment.
Well how do you suggest we get political diversity at colleges? Seems like an intractable problem without some sort of affirmative action.
You can tell how conservative a college is by their football program.
It's going to take a long time to undo the current state of ideological capture in higher ed. A good start would be eliminating required DEI statements of job candidates, which function as statements of faith and ideological filters. Also, ditching "diversity" as an institutional value or subject of instruction. Just go back to normal, secular inquiry.
Also - perhaps if the right would stop villifying students who want to go on and earn a PHD in one of the "useless degree programs" you may get more right leaning youngsters to go into academia.
Never.the moops said:
Kind of hard to keep complaining then.
What does this have to do with what I wrote about lack of conservative voices in the teaching profession?
Conservatives are invited to speak at colleges all the time despite knowing what they'll face. I'd imagine if a university is touting itself as accepting of dissenting opinion, it would invite all voices on topics. Then the question is would the faculty and students try to shout them down or threaten them into backing out. If they do that, then they're no better than the current colleges.
You looked at it in a different way than I did. I do think both sides should be allowed to speak on campus - it’s part of the college experience. I looked it as why would a liberal want to go there (same with BYU).
So much this. It's odd that people seem surprised that there are high % of liberal leaning people in the educational fields.
