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Please Read - Big Change For The Forum - Asking For Your Grace - Forum Offline 8/1 (1 Viewer)

Joe Bryant

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Hi Folks,

Big change coming in our forum. And I'm going to need your help and patience and grace please.

We've been fired by the company that currently hosts our forums. 

It's one of the more bizarre things I've ever had happen in business. 

So we're getting a new message board forum.

The good news is we think we've been able to transfer over things from this board to the new board. Screen names, log in info, avatars, and years and years of previous posts and content. 

And better news is the board appears to be both faster and have much better search capability. 

The new board will be hosted by https://xenforo.com/. @Memphis Foundry did a ton of work on this and Xenforo was far and away the best option to do all the things we wanted. 

As we make the swap, the forums (both this one and the new one) will be offline starting 8/1. 

It depends on how well the transfer goes (there a TON of old material here) I'm expecting the forums may be down for several days after 8/1 if not the whole week or longer. Hopefully it won't be that long, but I want to be honest in letting you know Keith has done hundreds of hours of prep work on this but we truly don't know until we get more into it.

When the new forum is back online, your old bookmarks may not work. The safe way will be to go to www.footballguys.com and select "FORUMS" from the black horizontal navigation bar at the top of the site. 

To be clear, this is 100% the choice of our current forum provider.  Not us. 

It doesn't do anyone any good to air dirty laundry details. But I feel you're owed some explanation. The bottom line was this was about Customer Service. As many of you know, we've had our share of forum glitches with some folks unable to access forums and such. I requested a higher level of customer service from our forum provider in helping solve our forum users issues.

They said what I was asking wasn't acceptable and not do it again.

I told them with the amount of money we pay to host the forums (almost $10,000 per year), that answer wasn't acceptable.

I did it again.

They then told me they were done doing business with us. 

I guess they showed me who was boss.  

To their credit, they are helping with the transitioning and they gave us some time to do it. I'd been holding out hope we could delay it but the date is 8/1.

And in the end, I think it will be a plus for us and for you as a forum member. 

But I'll need your help, your patience and grace.

This couldn't happen at a worse time. August is 5x busier for us than any other month. Keith and the tech team are already buried and the last thing they should be doing is trying to transfer a giant dataset to a new forum. But here we are.

I think the new Xenforo forum will be much better. But I'm sure we'll have hiccups and glitches. Some things we'll be able to make it like this forum was. Other things will have to be different. 

I'm asking for your patience here as we make this transition. I've no doubt it'll be bumpy and any grace you can give us is most appreciated.

As I said above, this forum will be offline Monday morning about 9:00 AM ET. I'll try to have an update once per day on my Twitter account so folks can know where we are. https://twitter.com/Football_Guys.  I'm expecting the forums may be down for several days after 8/1 if not the whole week or longer. I'll post updates on my Twitter feed to let folks know so you're not in the dark. 

Again, this wasn't our choice. We've got a zillion urgent tech projects happening beyond this. But it's where we are. And I'd appreciate patience and grace as we make this change. I've no doubt people will be unhappy with some parts of the new board. But please know we're doing our best here for y'all.

J

 
Also - A thought. Here's what I'm most worried about - Personal Messages. 

The PM system here has always been weird in my opinion. And I'm not 100% certain every PM will transfer over from this forum to the new forum. And I worry about personal stuff that people value but maybe haven't kept a copy of somewhere else. If you have PMs you value, please make a copy of them or screenshot or whatever you need just in case there is trouble transferring. 

 
Ouch -- sorry, Joe.  Good luck with the transition.
Yes, what a lousy thing to do by your provider.  I can't imagine under any circumstance telling a customer that you will get what I give and if you don't like it, shut up.  Just crazy. 

Thank you for hosting these boards and praying for a smooth transition for you. 

 
Ouch...very very bad timing for a FF business.

Good luck with the transition and see you on the other side.

 
Good luck with the data transfer. Those are always seemingly a roll of the dice on how smooth they go.

Hopefully we will all be better people on the other side.  :construction:

 
Youre WAAAAAAY to accomodating Joe. I get maybe trying to keep the content from the Shark Pool.  Thats directly linked to your business. The rest?  If it were me, Id simplify things 100 fold and wipe the slate clean. Theres really no need for 99% of it and its just going to make things more difficult for you. 

Anyone pissing and moaning about it can go somewhere else.  Im giving you direct insight as to why I would never take a job where I had to interact with the public directly. :lmao:

God bless you Joe....you really are a saint. 

 
So, a couple of months before the midterm elections where the economy is likely the number one issue Joe shuts down the forum for a few days.  Is he expecting a great surge in productivity as few hundred posters actually work those days?  Or is he expecting a slump as without the distraction a few hundred posters do nothing?   Such a social experiment!

:tinfoilhat:   

Shouldn't this had been in the stock market thread two weeks ago?

 
Youre WAAAAAAY to accomodating Joe. I get maybe trying to keep the content from the Shark Pool.  Thats directly linked to your business. The rest?  If it were me, Id simplify things 100 fold and wipe the slate clean. Theres really no need for 99% of it and its just going to make things more difficult for you. 

Anyone pissing and moaning about it can go somewhere else.  Im giving you direct insight as to why I would never take a job where I had to interact with the public directly. :lmao:

God bless you Joe....you really are a saint. 
While I get you point it would further “kill” the forums.  Some would (and maybe still will) take it as an opportunity to leave.  Also, there’s a ton of good content out there he’d be giving up that drives traffic.

 
While I get you point it would further “kill” the forums.  Some would (and maybe still will) take it as an opportunity to leave.  Also, there’s a ton of good content out there he’d be giving up that drives traffic.
I can't imagine these forums are a money maker for Joe.  Like I said before, I get the desire to keep SP content.  I don't see value in the rest from a business perspective.  It's fine to try and keep it.  I would NOT be keeping things "down" for the entire community because we couldn't get thread X back in the PSF or the FFA....I just wouldn't :shrug:  

 
I can't imagine these forums are a money maker for Joe.  Like I said before, I get the desire to keep SP content.  I don't see value in the rest from a business perspective.  It's fine to try and keep it.  I would NOT be keeping things "down" for the entire community because we couldn't get thread X back in the PSF or the FFA....I just wouldn't :shrug:  
Oh, I see - yeah, maybe at one time it drove subscribers but probably not any more.  Joe has said they aren’t money makers.  

 
Youre WAAAAAAY to accomodating Joe. I get maybe trying to keep the content from the Shark Pool.  Thats directly linked to your business. The rest?  If it were me, Id simplify things 100 fold and wipe the slate clean. Theres really no need for 99% of it and its just going to make things more difficult for you. 

Anyone pissing and moaning about it can go somewhere else.  Im giving you direct insight as to why I would never take a job where I had to interact with the public directly. :lmao:

God bless you Joe....you really are a saint. 


Thanks GB. You're way too kind. No saint here. But I hear you on the transfer. A new forum is easy. But our goal was to really do it right and bring over as much of history as possible. And that gets complicated. PM messages. Likes to a post. Avatars. All that. 

The goal is to bring over everything we possibly can. It'll be jarring enough just going to a different looking format than we're all used to. So I wanted to accommodate as much as we can. Keith is the same way. We'll give it a good shot.

I'm honestly seeing a pretty wide range of outcomes. Could be great. Might be ugly. We'll do our best and thanks for hanging with us. 

 
That's crazy bad customer service. Sounds like you will maybe have some short term headaches but better off in the long run. Hope it goes smoothly as possible. 

 
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Thanks GB. You're way too kind. No saint here. But I hear you on the transfer. A new forum is easy. But our goal was to really do it right and bring over as much of history as possible. And that gets complicated. PM messages. Likes to a post. Avatars. All that. 

The goal is to bring over everything we possibly can. It'll be jarring enough just going to a different looking format than we're all used to. So I wanted to accommodate as much as we can. Keith is the same way. We'll give it a good shot.

I'm honestly seeing a pretty wide range of outcomes. Could be great. Might be ugly. We'll do our best and thanks for hanging with us. 
I am fully and completely aware of what is about to happen Joe.  Hope it all goes well...gonna be some tired mofos after this is all over.  I just spent the better part of two years helping complete a set up of new business line at my new company and moving all the people, their money etc over from my old employer to my new.  Just remember this.....at least you aren't messing with peoples' bank accounts and their retirement accounts :lmao:  

 
I am fully and completely aware of what is about to happen Joe.  Hope it all goes well...gonna be some tired mofos after this is all over.  I just spent the better part of two years helping complete a set up of new business line at my new company and moving all the people, their money etc over from my old employer to my new.  Just remember this.....at least you aren't messing with peoples' bank accounts and their retirement accounts :lmao:  


Agreed! I think our @Memphis Foundry relates to you as his previous tech background was all in finance and investing where the stakes are super high. Thanks for the good wishes, GB.

 
not a tech guy but from world experience if you think a day or two,  double it.  at least.

It's all good.

thanx

on to the Shark Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  it's time anyway.

 
May not be the worst call to purge the history of the political forum based on what’s contained and to save time. Sounds like a complete headache, too bad they forced this change good luck. 

 
Appreciate you all looking out for us and keeping this community goin' over the years.  To a smooth transition! 🥃

 

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