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The Athletic's Katherine Terrell writes second-year UDFA Juwan Johnson "seems headed for a Jared Cook-type role" at tight end for the Saints.
Adam Trautman has been hyped as a breakout candidate at tight end for the Saints with Cook now in L.A. with the Chargers, but it was Johnson who paced the Saints in receiving in the preseason opener when he registered a pair of catches for 71 yards while playing a handful of snaps with the first-team offense. It was Johnson who was featured on third-down passing plays with the Taysom Hill unit. Johnson is a former college wideout who converted to tight end this summer and has been one of the stars of Saints camp. He's a name to watch over the next couple weeks and into the season.
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SOURCE: The Athletic
Aug 18, 2021, 1:40 PM ET
Even better. I might scoop him up in dynasty, under the radar, and no one even pay attention.Still Listed as a WR on MFL.
He was changed to TE in MFL last night.Even better. I might scoop him up in dynasty, under the radar, and no one even pay attention.
Saints TE Nick Vannett is undergoing an MRI to determine the extent of a knee injury he suffered Monday against the Jaguars.
Adam Trautman, meanwhile, was carted off with an ankle/foot injury Monday night. Trautman and Vannett missing extended time would make the unheralded Juwan Johnson the Saints' top tight end headed into Week 1. Johnson leads the team's tight ends in targets, receptions, and receiving yardage through two preseason games. He's not a bad late-round flier for fantasy drafters who have faded the tight end position.
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SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Aug 24, 2021, 11:26 AM ET
Can you even get anything for those back of the roster tes? I've got a bunch but they're not even worth peanuts no matter how much potential and good off-season press they get.I'm sorry but I refuse to roster a bunch of TEs, even in TE premium leagues. I'd rather stash a high upside backup RB. That hasn't always been the case with me, but I'm starting to think that way. TEs are too risky IMO and take too long to develop. I'd rather trade for one. I like to have no more than 3 on my roster and it's killing me that I have 5 in one league :( Perhaps I should trade a couple
The league I have 5 are: Waller, Trautman, Jonnu Smith, Harrison Bryant, and Granson. All other leagues I have either 2 or 3 TEs only. I'll give Granson some time to see how he develops and I'm about at the end of my rope with Harrison Bryant. If he doesn't do something soon I will try to get rid of him. If I had my druthers I would only have Waller, Smith, and Trautman.Can you even get anything for those back of the roster tes? I've got a bunch but they're not even worth peanuts no matter how much potential and good off-season press they get.
Let’s see…I added Gronk when he was retired for $1, and just got a 3rd for him this year. I had Ertz as a toss-in to another deal & got a 4th for him this year. I added Tonyan week 3 or 4 last year & flipped him for Curtis Samuel in week 7, which helped me get to the playoffs on Samuel’s good games.Can you even get anything for those back of the roster tes? I've got a bunch but they're not even worth peanuts no matter how much potential and good off-season press they get.
I tried trading a 4th plus a backup te (Dan Arnold) to cover bye week for ertz and got a straight rejection.Let’s see…I added Gronk when he was retired for $1, and just got a 3rd for him this year. I had Ertz as a toss-in to another deal & got a 4th for him this year. I added Tonyan week 3 or 4 last year & flipped him for Curtis Samuel in week 7, which helped me get to the playoffs on Samuel’s good games.
I’m definitely gonna try to get Johnson for the same reason. Couple nice games & I might get a deal going. If not, it didn’t cost much & was worth a try.
I dealt both Ertz and Gronkowski during our rookie draft. Made it a lot easier since both teams needed a backup TE & didn’t mind spending the pick for it.I tried trading a 4th plus a backup te (Dan Arnold) to cover bye week for ertz and got a straight rejection.
Yahoo also recently changed him, from WR to WR/TEHe was changed to TE in MFL last night.
Juwan Johnson might not be a well-known name as of now but by the end of the 2021 season, there’s a legitimate chance that he’s the Saints’ starting tight end.
Feels more like at the beginning since he’s likely to have that role for the 1st 3-4 weeks with Trautman out (foot/ankle).
Agreed. Juwan Johnson appears to be in line for an extended audition during those early weeks. If Johnson does not make an impact early, he may relegated to a deep reserve role once Trautman and Vannett return.Feels more like at the beginning since he’s likely to have that role for the 1st 3-4 weeks with Trautman out (foot/ankle).
Do we see him being startable in 12T PPR?
I'm assuming everyone's grabbing him as TE2 and seeing what happens?
Where are you seeing 3-4 weeks with Trautman? Last I saw he was undergoing further tests but no diagnosis at this time besides him avoiding major injury.Hot Sauce Guy said:Feels more like at the beginning since he’s likely to have that role for the 1st 3-4 weeks with Trautman out (foot/ankle).
Initially they said “up to” 3 weeks.Where are you seeing 3-4 weeks with Trautman? Last I saw he was undergoing further tests but no diagnosis at this time besides him avoiding major injury.
Opening day is 18 days after that article was written. He is pretty likely to be good to go by week 1Initially they said “up to” 3 weeks.
They’ve updated it to “1-3 weeks pending further testing”
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/saints-adam-trautman-likely-out-1-to-3-weeks/amp/
What’s weird is giving a timeline before an MRI. Sounds like he’s a lock to miss game 1. And in my experience, players don’t go see specialists for minor stuff, so clearly there’s something there that they’re concerned with.
I was saying 3-4 weeks for Juwan because the backup TE is also out for a more definite 4 weeks.
When I see that reported I’ll update my rankings.Opening day is 18 days after that article was written. He is pretty likely to be good to go by week 1
I agree with this. I’m not touching any Saints TE in redraft if I can help it.You'd have to have really waited to take a TE late if you start him week 1.
I think he's a last round flyer and wait to see what you've got.
unlikely, but possible. Winston has been TE friendly in his time in TB so could be sneaky value. He had what, 2/77 in the last preseason game? That’s 9.7 in PPR & would be a contributor.Do we see him being startable in 12T PPR?
Nah - grabbing him in deep dynasty & hoping he flashes early. Purely a Penny stock investment.I'm assuming everyone's grabbing him as TE2 and seeing what happens?
Exactly. Juwan Johnson is a low-cost dynasty investment, and we should get a glimpse early on to see if we want to stay invested or move on. The hope is he will develop into a "Baby Waller", but the reality is, there are countless WR converts , and rarely do they pan out. So far, Juwan Johnson looks promising!Nah - grabbing him in deep dynasty & hoping he flashes early. Purely a Penny stock investment.
When I see that reported I’ll update my rankings.
But what’s more relevant than Trautman’s injury is the reporting that Johnson is likely to be the Move TE regardless. He’s the one running routes while Trautman has been blocking most of the time prior to the injury.
I grabbed him for $11/$500. We’ll see what happens. I’m avoiding Trautman - seems like a lot of hopes & dreams have built up some hype that might be unwarranted.
I’m not sure what to believe yet. Time will tell.
Agree. From what I'm reading, it says that he essentially is the move TE and hardly blocks at all. Whereas the limited sample size from this preseason, Trautman was called on to pass block more. Jared Cook never blocked. There's chatter that this guy will be in the Jared Cook role.Exactly. Juwan Johnson is a low-cost dynasty investment, and we should get a glimpse early on to see if we want to stay invested or move on. The hope is he will develop into a "Baby Waller", but the reality is, there are countless WR converts , and rarely do they pan out. So far, Juwan Johnson looks promising!
Juwan Johnson caught 3-of-3 targets for 21 yards and two touchdowns in the Saints' Week 1 win against the Packers.
Johnson, who picked up steam as a legit pass catching option in the New Orleans offense this preseason, served as an imposing red zone threat for Jameis Winston. The Saints' tight end situation is tough to decipher after one week: Adam Trautman led the team with six targets against Green Bay while Johnson saw the high value targets. Johnson is a good pickup in tight end premium leagues. Forty-five percent of Winston's attempts went to his tight ends.
I think he's a classic high risk/high reward player. Plenty of opportunities for balls as there's no alpha WR right now (unless Calloway steps up I guess), so he may be able to co-exist with Trautman, though that means he may really be TD dependent would could severely limit upside. But he may have earned more playing time, and there's been enough buzz about him the last couple of months to think they'll open him up more as he develops. I have him on 3 dynasty teams and like what I saw so far. For redraft, tough to gauge. Don't *think* he'll be consistent, but I'd love to be proven wrong. Vs. Jonnu, tough call, as he splits time with Henry, but looks like he'll be involved for sure and probably has a higher floor.There was some discussion in the waivers thread and trying to wrap my arms about whether he's worth a speculative pickup to replace Jonnu Smith at my backup TE spot (also own Kittle).
Pros: athletic profile, need for pass catchers in that offense, good red zone target
Cons: sharing time with Trautman, limited snap count/targets (at least in game one)
At the expense of chasing points, sometimes guys emerge from seemingly nowhere, and maybe he's one. Tight ends are always a crapshoot, so maybe worth the upside.
Thoughts on Juwan going forward?
I'm putting in a low bid for him.There was some discussion in the waivers thread and trying to wrap my arms about whether he's worth a speculative pickup to replace Jonnu Smith at my backup TE spot (also own Kittle).
Pros: athletic profile, need for pass catchers in that offense, good red zone target
Cons: sharing time with Trautman, limited snap count/targets (at least in game one)
At the expense of chasing points, sometimes guys emerge from seemingly nowhere, and maybe he's one. Tight ends are always a crapshoot, so maybe worth the upside.
Thoughts on Juwan going forward?
Not sure I'd replace Jonnu with him. He'll end up #1 or #2 in targets on Pats offense and Mac looks like he'll develop sooner rather than later.There was some discussion in the waivers thread and trying to wrap my arms about whether he's worth a speculative pickup to replace Jonnu Smith at my backup TE spot (also own Kittle).
Pros: athletic profile, need for pass catchers in that offense, good red zone target
Cons: sharing time with Trautman, limited snap count/targets (at least in game one)
At the expense of chasing points, sometimes guys emerge from seemingly nowhere, and maybe he's one. Tight ends are always a crapshoot, so maybe worth the upside.
Thoughts on Juwan going forward?
It was also a really strange game script because the Packers played like a high school team. Trautman dropped a couple easy passes and the Saints were so dominate they didn't have to throw. It's hard to tell how he will be used in a competitive game where they have to throw more.He ran 8 routes. How on earth could that production sustain on that level of offensive involvement?
Either he’s a red zone maven the likes of which we’ve not seen in some time, or this isn’t sustainable without a significant increase in routes run.
He is a WR in CBS leagues, 3 targets concerns me some despite the 2tds.
EDIT: 1 point PPR league
Ronnie Mack said:Cbs sportsline still has wr listing-
their depth charts indicate TE? what up!
There seems to be potential here for Johnson, but Trautman can catch the ball too. With the dearth of viable pass catchers while Thomas is out, the may need Trautman to remain a big part of the passing game plan. The fact that the team just signed Kenny Stills is all you need to know how desperate they seem for depth.Football Jones said:Johnson has the raw ability to win the job outright. He just might be their best receiver right now (outside of Kamara).
Trautman, a good blocker, could easily be relinquished to that role, allowing Juwan to flourish.
Big-time upside.
Might be a commissioner setting, I think I saw the option to edit their position eligibility.Regarding his CBS designation, it gets even weirder. I have 2 leagues with them, one indeed shows him as eligible in both the WR and TE slot. However, the other shows him as only WR eligible. WTH??