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RB Sean Tucker, TB (1 Viewer)
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
Not surprised.
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh yes he did. And they named him the number two guy on the depth chart. Heck, there was an article in SI about it.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I wish I had a dollar for every time I was wrong in this hobby, but being humble is a good thing.
Streetduck
Footballguy
Get a room
He's going in the 4th of rookie drafts. He's basically free.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Sometimes it’s better to just be quiet and let things pass. A rabbit hole isn’t a good place to be.
"The best way to cheer yourself up.....is to try and cheer somebody else up"
eighsse2
Footballguy
Just seems silly to argue so vehemently, one way or the other, about a guy who's only had a handful of preseason touches. Second on the depth chart. That's a really good place to start off, sure. Plenty have ascended from there to stardom. Plenty have begun there and not done jack-crap.
Chaka
Footballguy
"If you don't lie, you'll never have to remember anything"
FarFromHome
Footballguy
"Be good and you'll be lonesome"
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
These forums are becoming unreadable.
Chaka
Footballguy
Tough to get too excited, in redraft, about a #2 RB on a lesser team.
But, there is some talent in TB and they are not in a particularly strong division or conference. If they get a few bounces they may not be terrible.
nirad3
Footballguy
But does a team need to be really good for a RB to have fantasy value? I'm pretty sure Tucker's adept at catching the ball out of the backfield and if White struggles mightily out of the gate, it stands to reason Tucker would be given a shot and could see a ton of dumpoffs. And even if he's rushing the ball 12-15 times, with an average YPC he could prove to be quite valuable in terms of fantasy.
gump
Footballguy
But White looked like a good pass catcher, despite the terrible OC last year.
Chaka
Footballguy
Really good? No.
I think a lot of people are expecting White to be bad out of the gate and that feels premature. Tom Brady, or Byron Leftwich, was a liability to the run game. They essentially abandoned the run game before the season started. It felt as if the offensive line had zero practice reps in the run game in an effort to maximize their protection of Brady.
I don't expect that this season and look for a much more balanced approach from the Pete Carroll disciple. White may not be great but I expect the scheme to be better and an improvement in running efficiency.
How much time Tucker will see as the #2 RB is anyone's guess but I wouldn't be surprised to see a Carrollesque commitment to the #1 RB.
Agreed. Everyone be way more cool. If you see more of that kind of 3rd grade slap fight stuff, please report it.
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
It's Eminence. You're slow on the draw.
Hugsy_Malone
Footballguy
Every time Eminence comes into a thread, it does become unreadable.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
Reported the same but it appears to have been ignored... you reap what you sow.
ETA: turns out that this is apparently not Eminence. Got some background on this and while the behavior is eerily similar, apparently this a different protagonist. Truth be told, I wanted to use a different descriptor there, but out of respect for Joe, I will not. I stand corrected on my previous statement... but this guy was the problem, not the regular board members.
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smbkrypt24
Footballguy
It seems the report button is more of a pick and choose what they respond to. They say to report inappropriate content, but then it gets ignored a lot of times.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
In re-draft, I am in agreement. In dynasty or a keeper league... Tucker is a priority speculative stash.
Banger
Footballguy
Agree. Makes perfect sense
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Mike Evans and Chris Godwin are still a formidable WR duo, I think Cade Otton is better than people think and they have two solid RBs. I think Baker Mayfield is also serviceable enough that they could be alright (for FF). Consider also that I don't really consider Carolina, New Orleans or Atlanta to be anything close to a sure favorite. 8-9 might win this division and if players have something to play for during the FF playoff stretch...
Mainly just arguing contrarian here but I don't see why their RBs can't be worthwhile for FF.
Mainly just arguing contrarian here but I don't see why their RBs can't be worthwhile for FF.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I agree. Baker was serviceable at times last year and has a better offense around him. If the oline can improve and things fall Tuckers way, it is possible we see this years Pacheco. It is not too far fetched to say he may already be the better compared to White, which could get him on the field earlier than we think. Probable, maybe not. But who thought Pacheco would have got as much run as he did last year?
And just FYI…he is listed 4th on the Buc‘s website depth chart…
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zamboni
Footballguy
I feel the same way. In the future I’m always going to think of Seattle last year and avoid groupthink that fantasy situations are really that bad. Sometimes works out better than expected and volume is king - which is what White may have right now, and possibly Tucker if he’s all that and White struggles.
pghrob
Hail to the Chief
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These fantasy running backs in bold on the linked to below article were relevant while playing on losing or bad teams.
Running backs on bad teams - In PPR, you can have winners on losers - Fantasy Index
In PPR, you can have winners on losers
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
I agree with this and would like to do it. I am in a 10 team, 10 player keeper with 21 roster spots where White is my 4th RB. To grab Tucker I would have to drop one of Mostert, Eli Mitchell or Gainwell. Mostert will stay on the roster now after the failed JT trade. If Gainwell ends up being the #3 in Phily or worse, he might be the one to go for Tucker.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
No team with Baker leading it is a train wreck....ha ha
pghrob
Hail to the Chief
Yet Nick Chubb was a fantasy relevant rb playing with Mayfield at qb for what, was it 4 years together?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Same pattern every single time.
Weebs210
Footballguy
Idk I feel like he's a great last pick in redraft as well. I'm sorry but white is not good. Tucker is faster, stronger, was as good of a receiver as white in college, better goal line back, and would have been a higher draft pick then White if he didn't have the temporary heart issue.
Out of all the back fields in the league IMO this is the one that has the highest chance of the rb2 taking the rb1s spot simply from out performance. Tucker is basically free and no one you are taking with your last pick is close to the upside.
Any starting RB in the league is valuable. It's not like TB was good last year either and the rb1 throughout the year was valuable.
Agree on the any starting RB, look at Conner with ARZ the back half of last season.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
The Tucker conversation has gotten so much more civil and productive... I guess when things don't go as one so adamantly predicts, they get really quiet. Nice.
I don't completely discount Tucker in re-draft. He is just less of a priority, timing wise. In dynasty or a keeper league you almost surely had to pick him in your rookie draft. He passed through the rookie draft in my keeper league but only the first 2 of our 3 rounds are for offensive players. So it isn't easy to crack to the top 24. I passed on Roschon Johnson (and to a lesser extent Tucker) at #24 to take the top IDP DL, Will Anderson, Jr. Tucker slipped through our auction as well... he was on my radar as an end-of-auction $1 guy but I was able to pick up Jaylen Warren and Roschon at the very end and had them ranked clearly ahead of him. All that said, Tucker will be high on my FAAB priority list next weekend. Hopefully he doesn't break out week 1.
I don't completely discount Tucker in re-draft. He is just less of a priority, timing wise. In dynasty or a keeper league you almost surely had to pick him in your rookie draft. He passed through the rookie draft in my keeper league but only the first 2 of our 3 rounds are for offensive players. So it isn't easy to crack to the top 24. I passed on Roschon Johnson (and to a lesser extent Tucker) at #24 to take the top IDP DL, Will Anderson, Jr. Tucker slipped through our auction as well... he was on my radar as an end-of-auction $1 guy but I was able to pick up Jaylen Warren and Roschon at the very end and had them ranked clearly ahead of him. All that said, Tucker will be high on my FAAB priority list next weekend. Hopefully he doesn't break out week 1.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
I don't see Gainwell being anything more than COP #3 in Philly behind Swift/Penny. Jalen could steal 10 Tds himself.
Would you drop Spears for Tucker in redraft?
Rookiefever
Footballguy
Absolutely not
Weebs210
Footballguy
Anyone else you can drop? Spears is one of the top cuffs this year especially with an aging Henry. I like both a lot
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Even though Tucker has both his ACLs, no.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Not exactly news considering it was first reported back on Tuesday, it’s just Rotoworld being late to pick up on it. But thought I’d share their blurb from today anyway:
www.nbcsports.com
NFL Player News
Find all the latest fantasy football news, reports, transactions, videos, predictions, and more right here on NBC Sports - Rotoworld.
www.nbcsports.com
J Giles Band
Footballguy
Rotoworld (NBC) is late on everything now... their news blurbs are a fraction in frequency of what they used to be. And you can safely ignore the 'analysis'. The analysis is frequently factually inaccurate.
ETA: I've been giving Rotowire a look as an alternative and will do the same with the FBG's news section. I've always leaned on FBG's for their game day news update section... but Rotoworld has been my creature of habit for 20+ years now for their news blurbs and despite the signficant downturn, I typically naturally check the news there first. It is such a shell of what it used to be that I have to find an alternative. Sadly, I don't think any of the execs at NBC understand what the REAL value of Rotoworld was. It wasn't their rankings, columns or experts (although they've had some really good ones: Gregg Rosenthal, Evan Silva... and Matthew Pouliot on the baseball side). The value was being able to click on the Rotoworld news blurbs at any time and be brought up to date on anything newsworthy going on in the NFL, MLB or NBA. The 24-hour news blurbs with timely INFORMATION was the value.
Sorry for the hijack.
ETA: I've been giving Rotowire a look as an alternative and will do the same with the FBG's news section. I've always leaned on FBG's for their game day news update section... but Rotoworld has been my creature of habit for 20+ years now for their news blurbs and despite the signficant downturn, I typically naturally check the news there first. It is such a shell of what it used to be that I have to find an alternative. Sadly, I don't think any of the execs at NBC understand what the REAL value of Rotoworld was. It wasn't their rankings, columns or experts (although they've had some really good ones: Gregg Rosenthal, Evan Silva... and Matthew Pouliot on the baseball side). The value was being able to click on the Rotoworld news blurbs at any time and be brought up to date on anything newsworthy going on in the NFL, MLB or NBA. The 24-hour news blurbs with timely INFORMATION was the value.
Sorry for the hijack.
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massraider
Footballguy
In a weird coincidence, these people all drafted Sean Tucker.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
Those who did not invest early (re-draft leagues mostly as I'm sure Tucker is rostered in most dynasty and keeper leagues already)... better hope White plays ok week 1. The opportunity cost for Tucker is only going to rise. Better get him in your week 2 waiver runs in re-drafts (unless you can prior to week 1)... and hope White did well enough week 1 to keep the cost down.
Weebs210
Footballguy
Best last pick in redraft you could ask for this year. Grab him now so you don't have to use faab or waiver position after week one when it's more obvious to the non sharks.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
If you have a league on MFL, you can click on “player news” and it has updates aggregated from Rotowire and other places. I too decided to ditch Rotoworld and this is what I replaced it with.
