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RB Isaac Guerendo, SF (2 Viewers)
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
Intrigued. I've been holding Elijah Mitchell and Jordan Mason for a while. This seals Mason's fate - he's a drop. Will probably continue to hold Mitchell (love the talent).
Wonder if Guerendo returns kicks? They had Deebo doing it down the stretch, and I can't imagine they wanna keep doing that.
Faust
MVP
Eric Galko
.@LouisvilleFB RB Isaac Guerendo is probably most consistently talked about as being an elite athlete. But he’s more than just that.
He’s had limited carries relative to his peers in his college career (which many NFL scouts bring up as a POSITIVE, as he has less “tread on his tires”).
And when he has gotten opportunities, he’s been one of the most explosive RBs in the country.
He’s averaged 6+ YPC each of the last three years. Even more impressively, in 2023, he averaged 4.1 yards AFTER contact per carry
That 4.1 was top-five in the country among FBS players in the 2024 draft class (and his fellow @ShrineBowl RB Tyrone Tracy was #1 with 4.4)
He also improved as a pass blocker, with just one game with a sub 70 pass blocking grade per @PFF_College.
And as a receiver, 13 of his 24 catches this year went for first downs. SEVEN went for 15+ yards.
His EXPLOSIVENESS shows up as a runner, receiver and returner on film.
And of course, he’s an elite athlete. But let’s just look at how RARE he is from a couple different sources (at 6’1, 220):
BEST 40 time and vertical (and top 5 in broad and shutteles) among RBs at Combine
Isaac Guerendo is truly a special, unique prospect. There’s maybe only a handful of RBs with his size and talent in the last decade of draft prospects.
And it’s a big reason why, despite just 165 touches (including kick returns) in 2023, it’s unlikely he gets out of the top-four rounds.
#ShrineBowlWhosNext
socrates
Footballguy
I do not think that means what he thinks that means
titusbramble
Footballguy
Late round flier taken, expecting zero in 2024 but able to stash on taxi squad to see if he can develop into the next man up in a good offense
eighsse2
Footballguy
Refresh my memory, what would have been the red flag in preseason with Sermon? Was it that he did not get used (or got used when all the third stringers were on the field), or did he look like a turd when he did get snaps?
TripItUp
Footballguy
The little information there was, was that Sermon was having a great camp (from a beatwriter)...the ff community ran with that and a bunch of people got burned.
The 49ers have a terrible track record of drafting RBs.
Guerrendo is an interesting prospect but I keep hearing all these "Kyle know's RB's" takes and it's like everyone is just going to forget Sermon, Joe Williams and TDP.
I'd make the case that in all these years on the jobs, despite drafting a ton of Rb's, that the only good AND reliable RB he's obtained was by trading for CMC.
I'd make the case that in all these years on the jobs, despite drafting a ton of Rb's, that the only good AND reliable RB he's obtained was by trading for CMC.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Oh, I see I see, I misunderstood.
socrates
Footballguy
Fair point. I think one of the things that makes Guerendo an intriguing late-round prospect is that he potentially fits the archetype of the types of RBs who have had some success in Shanahan's system. Sermon was an odd pick, as he did not fit the mold. Same for TDP. Joe Williams occasionally displayed the speed and decisiveness to be a potential match for Shanahan's offense, but he also had some character and work ethic concerns. I don't know that we can glean much from him fizzling out.
Guerendo is no CMC, but he has some similarities to Raheem Mostert, and if he buys into the system, I believe Guerendo could produce if his number is called. Buying into the system is key, however. The Zone Blocking scheme requires backs to read plays quickly, hit the hole, and get upfield.
I'm not as sure on speed being a major factor in light of RB's at previous spots having success under Kyle. Such as Alfred Morris and Devonta Freeman. But decisivness, yes, that's huge in this system but the point I was making is that Kyle runs the show, the GM's work for him. So all those RB's that failed, for whatever reason, were his calls so that's my point to refute that "he just know's RB's" when the reality is his draftng history with Rb's has not been merely ok, it's been downright horrible.
The best RB SF has drafted since he arrived is Elijah Mitchell and he has the same archetype as Guerrendo. We know the issues with Mitchell staying on the field, but he's actually good and unless he's moved, which I think is possible, my guess is he'll keep the #2 job for as long as he's healthy.
I obviously love the system for RB's, Gurrendo's an intriguing talent, I just don't agree with giving him some extra bump because "Kyle knows RB's" is all I'm saying. That and I think some people are jumping the gun and forgetting about Mitchell.
socrates
Footballguy
You are spot on about it being more about decisiveness than long speed. We have seen backs like Arian Foster and Olandis Gary, in addition to Morris and Freeman, have success in the zone read system, and speed was not their calling card. Mitchell fits the Shanahan system and will maintain a role, but, as you say, he has been unable to remain on the field.
Does Guerendo get a bump based on his draft destination? I think he does to some degree, but it is not because Kyle knows RBs. Some of the draft picks have left me scratching my head. (Kyle also supposedly knows QBs, yet the move up to grab Trey Lance was befuddling. I might have understood Mac Jones as a Shanahan type of QB, but not Trey Lance.)
Guerendo is a potential fit for the Shanahan system. However, you make a great point that he still must contend with Mitchell for touches behind CMC, so it is unclear how much of a role Guerendo will have.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I actually like the Cody Schrader, (the UDFA they signed) as well. Sneaky late pick.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I have always been impressed with Jordan Mason’s running ability. He must really be lacking in pass pro/receiving as he seems to be on the outside looking in.
