RB Breece Hall, NYJ (1 Viewer)

[efactor]

Could have had another 4 catches if they had kept him in on the last drive.

Jets calling time outs to get the ball back, down 17. They take Hall out and throw about 8 check down passes? Why not just kneel down and end the misery if you're not going to go for the miracle finish. Why call the time outs to prolong the game? Perplexing.

 

[gump]

72 points in my 2-week playoffs...thank you, Breece!

 

[eighsse2]

39 touches in a meaningless game, to a guy that is one of basically the two weapons they have to their name,and the game that would be closest in time to week 1 next year (i.e., given an injury, the time most likely for it to affect next season). Interesting.

 

[Faust]

Can't-Miss Play: 50-yard TD! Breece Hall channels LeSean McCoy for epic TD in the snow

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Thank you again Breece and ARSB

 

[SayWhat?]

39 touches in a meaningless game

Absolutely idiotic.

 

[sheerterror]

39 touches in a meaningless game

Absolutely idiotic.

Cannot stand this coaching staff. Utterly baffling. Averaged 11.2 carries/game, had 16 first half of this game. Garrett Wilson takes a concussive hit in the 4th q, Breece back out their next snap churning away.

 

[TampaMike19]

Think the jets really wanted to end this game as quickly as possible lol. And also give positive momentum for breece

 

[FarFromHome]

So he had 20 or more carries twice during the entire regular season and the conclusion was that in the final game of year 37 carries made sense. Hmmmm

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Thank you for playing Breece

 

[ZADO]

I`d say Breece will be MORE than ready for next season after testing that knee to its maximum capacity this last game .

 

[FreeBaGeL]

His hype is going to explode this offseason. Was all quiet on him until a few weeks ago but now he's going to finish as the #2 overall RB with 1600 yards, 80 catches, and double digit TDs while not even turning 23 until after next year's draft. Shoutout to those who bought low when he was still working his way back from the knee the first half of the year.

 

[Joe Bryant]

We had Hall as our RB2 this week. Got some angry email saying I didn't know football.

We miss our share every week for sure. But we got this one right.

 

[Dez]

Breece Hall will forever go down as a hero to me. The two main reasons I was able to take down 1st place and win the NFFC cutline championship (and $75,000) were grabbing Breece Hall in the 6th round with all the Cook worry and getting Puka off the waiver wire for over $800 out of my yearly $1,000 FAB.

I came into week 16 in the wild card bracket needing to finish 1st out of 110 people last year after getting cut in week 15 from the championship round. If I took 2nd out of 110 I would have out of the running for the title.

Breece Hall piled up 43 pts on my way to taking down 1st place and putting me into the final 12 for the finals in week 17.

I was in 6th place going into week 17 and 1 of only 2 teams that did not own CMC (ironically the team currently in 1st going into week 17 was my other team that did have CMC as I was the only person to have 2 teams left out of the 12)

Breece piled up 27 pts on Thursday and in the end when the dust settled I won it all (also finished 4th place with my CMC team).

I won by a scant 4 points and that 6th round pick of Breece went a long way in winning it.

Thank you Breece

 

[Dez]

Call of the year last year was by menobrown when I told him I had drafted Breece Hall at pick 43 in a July draft and then later on after Cook was signed I told him I was upset because Hall was now falling in drafts and I picked him so high he said "You might have paid a higher price to get him in that draft but I am guessing you won't be mad later in the season about having picked him there"

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Call of the year last year was by menobrown when I told him I had drafted Breece Hall at pick 43 in a July draft and then later on after Cook was signed I told him I was upset because Hall was now falling in drafts and I picked him so high he said "You might have paid a higher price to get him in that draft but I am guessing you won't be mad later in the season about having picked him there"

Breece won me a ship last year. He was so incredibly productive despite that train wreck of an offense.

 

[eighsse2]

Breece helped me win a championship last year too. Thank you for being on a roster that didn't make our league playoffs, Breece!

 

[jm192]

Really remarkable year all things considered.

Coming back off an ACL
Lost Rodgers
Played a lot of games with Zach Wilson

Assuming he's 100% back next year, and the Jets have Rodgers at full health, Breece should have a monster season.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Assuming he's 100% back next year, and the Jets have Rodgers at full health, Breece should have a monster season.

Funny - I tried to deal him last season when he was finally given a full workload, thinking I’d build off of such a deal.

No takers.

He was one of the main reasons I won the league down the stretch.

Now I get 2 offers a week for him, despite taking him off my trade block.

He’s my ride or die now.

 

[dipandglide]

RB1

 

[Rubi]

Breece Hall will lead all running backs east of the Mississippi River in fantasy points scored in 2024

 

[ZADO]

Breece Hall will lead all running backs east of the Mississippi River in fantasy points scored in 2024

What about just west of the Mississippi river ? Id broaden that line to all RBs west of San Fran

 

[Ray Barboni]

Breece Hall will lead all running backs east of the Mississippi River in fantasy points scored in 2024

What about just west of the Mississippi river ? Id broaden that line to all RBs west of San Fran

… I think I know what you’re talking about, BUT.

Which Rb’s are west of SF?

I suppose Kyren fits.. but other than that? What the hale you taco’ing about man!?

 

[ZADO]

Breece Hall will lead all running backs east of the Mississippi River in fantasy points scored in 2024

What about just west of the Mississippi river ? Id broaden that line to all RBs west of San Fran

… I think I know what you’re talking about, BUT.

Which Rb’s are west of SF?

I suppose Kyren fits.. but other than that? What the hale you taco’ing about man!?

I guess i was implying anyone besides Christian Jackson McCaffrey

 

[eighsse2]

Breece Hall will lead all running backs east of the Mississippi River in fantasy points scored in 2024

What about just west of the Mississippi river ? Id broaden that line to all RBs west of San Fran

… I think I know what you’re talking about, BUT.

Which Rb’s are west of SF?

I suppose Kyren fits.. but other than that? What the hale you taco’ing about man!?

I guess i was implying anyone besides Christian Jackson McCaffrey

Yeah I'm thinking you meant to say "east" of San Fran, that would've been more meaningful.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Breece Hall will lead all running backs east of the Mississippi River in fantasy points scored in 2024

What about just west of the Mississippi river ? Id broaden that line to all RBs west of San Fran

… I think I know what you’re talking about, BUT.

Which Rb’s are west of SF?

I suppose Kyren fits.. but other than that? What the hale you taco’ing about man!?

I guess i was implying anyone besides Christian Jackson McCaffrey

Yeah I'm thinking you meant to say "east" of San Fran, that would've been more meaningful.

We don’t have a team in Hawaii yet?

Shocking, given the NFL’s penchant for expansion.

On a related note, the 1st real sports bet i ever made was when i was in Reno, hammered, at a friend’s bachelor party & we hit the sportsbook. I asked my also drunk friend what to bet on, and he said “always bet on the Rainbows at home.” I did, and I won. Best advice ever since drunk me wagered $500, which at the time was $485 more than I had any business betting.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Breece Hall has a chance to be the best RB
East of Salt Lake
North of Lake Okeechobee
West of the Atlantic Ocean
South of the Arctic Sea

 

[menobrown]

I've been well higher then consensus on Breece his first two seasons and think I might end up being just a little under consensus opinion this year. Not a lot, just a little, but I got some small concerns that will impact if I prefer players like Bijan, Tyreek or Chase over him.

My major concern is his role in the passing game. I know he's good in that department, with elite metrics last year but my concern is Rodgers won't be as inclined to take the dump off that sorry QB lot the Jets threw out last year was taking. Don't think he's ever thrown to a RB as much as Breece was thrown to last year. Post-draft his value seems to have picked up just a hair while I got just a little lower because of the Corley pick as he seems like a threat to me to syphon off some of these shorter passes that would normally go to Breece.

Last season Breece got 55% of his fantasy production in PPR leagues in the passing game, up from 41% his rookie season so it's a massive part of his game. But more then that he had a significant stretch last season he was close to a zero in fantasy production on the ground. Like a half a season stretch he averaged about 2.6 fantasy points a game as a runner, his value was almost totally in the receiving game so it not only gave him upside but picked up his floor.

As a runner I expect better because, of course, when you look at two years post ACL, QB upgrade and hopefully healthier OL but I think some of that could be countered with a regression in his passing game work and just have some questions he can hit the kind of upside some are throwing around.

Also, and this is a far more minor concern then his work in the passing game, but it's possible that Davis or Allen steal significant goal line work. I'd do it if I was the Jets, save Breece from some of those violent plays and let one of those rookies be the hammer. Not all the time, but a meaningful amount.

Just to say again he's no worse then RB3 and player 7 overall to me, at worst. So not trying to make something out of nothing, I just got concerns on the upside some are seeing, hindrances to the upside at minimum.

 

[travdogg]

I've been well higher then consensus on Breece his first two seasons and think I might end up being just a little under consensus opinion this year. Not a lot, just a little, but I got some small concerns that will impact if I prefer players like Bijan, Tyreek or Chase over him.

My major concern is his role in the passing game. I know he's good in that department, with elite metrics last year but my concern is Rodgers won't be as inclined to take the dump off that sorry QB lot the Jets threw out last year was taking. Don't think he's ever thrown to a RB as much as Breece was thrown to last year. Post-draft his value seems to have picked up just a hair while I got just a little lower because of the Corley pick as he seems like a threat to me to syphon off some of these shorter passes that would normally go to Breece.

Last season Breece got 55% of his fantasy production in PPR leagues in the passing game, up from 41% his rookie season so it's a massive part of his game. But more then that he had a significant stretch last season he was close to a zero in fantasy production on the ground. Like a half a season stretch he averaged about 2.6 fantasy points a game as a runner, his value was almost totally in the receiving game so it not only gave him upside but picked up his floor.

As a runner I expect better because, of course, when you look at two years post ACL, QB upgrade and hopefully healthier OL but I think some of that could be countered with a regression in his passing game work and just have some questions he can hit the kind of upside some are throwing around.

Also, and this is a far more minor concern then his work in the passing game, but it's possible that Davis or Allen steal significant goal line work. I'd do it if I was the Jets, save Breece from some of those violent plays and let one of those rookies be the hammer. Not all the time, but a meaningful amount.

Just to say again he's no worse then RB3 and player 7 overall to me, at worst. So not trying to make something out of nothing, I just got concerns on the upside some are seeing, hindrances to the upside at minimum.

We are pretty much in lockstep on Hall's passing game work. In addition to it not totally being Rodgers game, its easy to see the passing game workload come down just from the Jets not just being Wilson and Hall. Mike Williams is a huge addition from what they had a year ago, and its very likely Corley is as well, at least from someone like Cobb.

I'm not so worried about the Jets other RBs taking GL work, so much as the Jets passing at the GL. Rodgers has long been one of the most efficient passers inside the 10. The Jets scored roughly 40% of their TDs on the ground the last 2 seasons. Rodgers last 2 Packers seasons were close to 25%.

I think a lot of these similar critiques apply to Bijan Robinson as well, with Cousins on board, as Cousins RBs were typically in the 35-45 catch range, other than Cook having one 50+ year, when Thielen missed half the season.

 

[Hankmoody]

In addition to it not totally being Rodgers game

Aaron Jones would like a word.

 

[ZADO]

In addition to it not totally being Rodgers game

Aaron Jones would like a word.

My thoughts exactly

 

[menobrown]

In addition to it not totally being Rodgers game

Aaron Jones would like a word.

My thoughts exactly

His career high in targets with Rodgers was 72, which he got the year after Hackett left.

His career high in 3 years with Hackett/Rodgers was 69.

He missed some games and I don't think we had 17 games seasons all of those years, and if we account for that and push his targets into a 17 game proration it can be built up to 74 targets.

Breece Hall had 95 last year and averaged 1.67 fantasy points per target. If he dipped down to Jones totals under Hackett/Rodgers and had similar efficiency as he did last year he'd lose 2.11 fantasy points per game in the receiving game which just to illustrate the impact based on last year those 2.11 fantasy points would have moved him from RB8 to RB15.

So to me, introducing Jones to the discussion does not help alleviate my concerns on Hall losing some steam in the receiving game and in fact it's exactly what I was looking at yesterday when I made my post.

 

[Gally]

Aaron Jones would like a word.

Seemed to me that Jones was schemed passes many times and it wasn't primarily dump offs that got him his catches. I very well could be wrong but that is my recollection.

 

[Hankmoody]

So to me, introducing Jones to the discussion does not help alleviate my concerns on Hall losing some steam in the receiving game and in fact it's exactly what I was looking at yesterday when I made my post.

I introduced Hall to the discussion in regards to Rodgers. He uses the RB just fine, and Hackett had no issue getting the ball to Breece. Rodgers is a GD mercenary out there - if you're open, he'll get it there. He made guys like Cobb and Lazard way better than they should look.

Aaron Jones would like a word.

Seemed to me that Jones was schemed passes many times and it wasn't primarily dump offs that got him his catches. I very well could be wrong but that is my recollection.

Exactly my point. Rodgers isn't averse to throwing it down and once he trusts a guy he'll feed him. Plus Jones is a JAG, Breece is a thoroughbred. He's going to see a lot more designed plays and Rodgers knows he doesn't have to force it downfield. He HATES throwing to guys he doesn't trust and actively looks for him safety valves instead.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Looking back on stats from Rodgers’ last 4 seasons in GB, he threw the ball to RBs 100-115 times per season. In comparison, the Jets threw to RBs ~145 times in 2023. That isn’t shocking given how abysmal the team was and how often they played from behind. I doubt the Jets target RBs 145 times again this year, barring an early season injury to ARod.

Now on the flip side, B Hall only averaged 13 carries per game in 2023. 223 carries in 17 games. Does anyone really expect that low level of opportunity in 2024? I mean, in 2022 Aaron Jones had 213 carries……in a season where AJ Dillon also had 186 carries.

So yeah, B Hall could see his passing game usage drop by let’s say 2 targets per game. But man, it’s hard to make a case that he doesn’t also see increased usage on the ground. Note that B Hall had 5 rushing TDs in 2023……compared to 9 combined for Jones/Dillon in each of 2021 and 2022. Jones had 9 by himself in 2020 while splitting time with J Williams….

 

[travdogg]

So to me, introducing Jones to the discussion does not help alleviate my concerns on Hall losing some steam in the receiving game and in fact it's exactly what I was looking at yesterday when I made my post.

I introduced Hall to the discussion in regards to Rodgers. He uses the RB just fine, and Hackett had no issue getting the ball to Breece. Rodgers is a GD mercenary out there - if you're open, he'll get it there. He made guys like Cobb and Lazard way better than they should look.

Aaron Jones would like a word.

Seemed to me that Jones was schemed passes many times and it wasn't primarily dump offs that got him his catches. I very well could be wrong but that is my recollection.

Exactly my point. Rodgers isn't averse to throwing it down and once he trusts a guy he'll feed him. Plus Jones is a JAG, Breece is a thoroughbred. He's going to see a lot more designed plays and Rodgers knows he doesn't have to force it downfield. He HATES throwing to guys he doesn't trust and actively looks for him safety valves instead.

JONES IS A JAG????????? Aaron Jones? Unquestionably one of most efficient RBs in the NFL throughout his career, that Aaron Jones? The disrespect.

 

[JoeJoe88]

So to me, introducing Jones to the discussion does not help alleviate my concerns on Hall losing some steam in the receiving game and in fact it's exactly what I was looking at yesterday when I made my post.

I introduced Hall to the discussion in regards to Rodgers. He uses the RB just fine, and Hackett had no issue getting the ball to Breece. Rodgers is a GD mercenary out there - if you're open, he'll get it there. He made guys like Cobb and Lazard way better than they should look.

Aaron Jones would like a word.

Seemed to me that Jones was schemed passes many times and it wasn't primarily dump offs that got him his catches. I very well could be wrong but that is my recollection.

Exactly my point. Rodgers isn't averse to throwing it down and once he trusts a guy he'll feed him. Plus Jones is a JAG, Breece is a thoroughbred. He's going to see a lot more designed plays and Rodgers knows he doesn't have to force it downfield. He HATES throwing to guys he doesn't trust and actively looks for him safety valves instead.

JONES IS A JAG????????? Aaron Jones? Unquestionably one of most efficient RBs in the NFL throughout his career, that Aaron Jones? The disrespect.

Absolutely not a JAG. He may not be elite, but JAG’s don’t average 5.0 ypc for their career across 7 seasons. Hell, JAG rbs don’t last 7 seasons period.

 

[Hankmoody]

As a fantasy asset he's been a stud sure, but he's mostly a product of the system. JAG might be a slight exaggeration but he's not a talent in the zip code of Hall.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Aaron Jones was a great RB for the Packers, an in turn a great target for Rodgers. No disrespect to Garret Wilson, but Breece Hall, IMO is the most talented offensive weapon on the field for the Jets. He should still see his receiving targets. Now, if Rodgers stays healthy and the O Line jells there should be fewer RB dumpoffs, but with the talent at WR Hall could be open in the short areas a lot. Then again, there will still be a number of them each game to keep the defenses honest. I have not had time to do my RB projections yet, but Breece could be my #1 or #2 RB. I figure CMC, Saquon, Bijan will be up there as well. The only concern I see MIGHT be the TD numbers.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

I don't think it's that hard to get him to project as the overall RB2 if everyone stays healthy, even on 68 targets or so. FWIW, Breece is more of a bellcow than Aaron Jones was so I do expect him to hit that target volume given the other options at RB in NY. Breece should not be a 55/45 guy IMO. I think he's a 60+ guy. Not that Aaron Jones is a JAG but he's also not typically been given bellcow usage.

I'm expecting Breece to get 15-18 carries and 4 targets per game. For me it's him, Bijan and JT in the non CMC tier 1.

 

[jwb]

As a fantasy asset he's been a stud sure, but he's mostly a product of the system. JAG might be a slight exaggeration but he's not a talent in the zip code of Hall.

Jones is a good RB. Definitely not JAG. But Breece is otherwordly. One of those runners where it's not really obvious "how" he does it - he just glides through the defense and they can't seem to get a good angle/tackle on him. He's a pleasure to watch.

 

[eighsse2]

I don't quite get where these perceptions come from. Aaron Jones (just for example since a comparison was made here) has a better YPA than Breece, over a massively larger sample size. Jones' YPR and YPT are less by a good bit. But receptions make up a lot less of the body of work too. What is so super elite about Breece that isn't showing up in his YPA?

Signed,
Guy who would like to make a massive offer for Breece in dynasty but has second thoughts about it