RB Breece Hall, NYJ (2 Viewers)

[rockaction]

I’m looking to get a haul for Hall, so hoping it’s great landing spot and then move 1.01 if someone will pay up. Maybe two 1st in 23 or a 23 1st from a weak roster and a really good player in return. What would it take in future assets for those with the 1.01 to move it?

I honestly just moved Javonte Williams for the 1.01 and Courtland Sutton (pre-trade). I also moved A.J. Brown for DK in that same deal, but that was essentially the wash, really. Whatever one thinks of that trade, I had Hall in mind as my 1.01. His athletic profile is worlds beyond Javonte's. 

I am really bullish on Hall, though. Nobody has tested that way since Saquon, and we saw what Barkley could do at the pro level. I'm hoping for a similar output from Breece, only without the injuries (hopefully). He's not quite as fast as Saquon overall, but he's not as rigid a runner as Barkley was. His weight is more natural-looking. 

I totally disagree that a team will draft him that will make him a 1B. I highly doubt that will happen. He shouldn't (and everybody says he will but I disagree with everybody) make it out of the first. By any statistical measure, he's a first rounder in comparison to other backs. 

 

[ghostguy123]

I’m looking to get a haul for Hall, so hoping it’s great landing spot and then move 1.01 if someone will pay up. Maybe two 1st in 23 or a 23 1st from a weak roster and a really good player in return. What would it take in future assets for those with the 1.01 to move it?

Is two future 1sts really a "haul" when trading the 1.01??

A future 1st from a weak team and a really good player might be a haul depending on the player of course.  

 

[Faust]

Draft Kings Sportsbook has Iowa State RB Breece Hall with the best odds (-175) to be the first running back off the board.

This should come as no surprise as Hall (6'1/220) was viewed as one of the best running backs in the class before the combine. Post combine, it makes even more sense. Hall was explosive, putting up excellent numbers in the vertical (40") and 40-yard dash (40.39). The film shows a knack for breaking out long runs and exploding past defenders. There are a couple of running backs that can contend for the top spot, but Hall is the clear favorite.

SOURCE: PFF Bet

Mar 10, 2022, 9:40 PM ET

 

[Faust]

According to Pro Football Network Draft Guide, Iowa State's Breece Hall is the top running back in the draft.

Hall (6'1/220) began to stake his claim for top spot on the running back draft board after an incredible showing at the combine. He has NFL Next Gen Stats score of 99 and his testing numbers were similar to Saquon Barkley. We've seen several experts leap him over MSU's Kenneth Walker after the combine and have moved him into a possible first-round and on Pro Football Network's Draft Guide he got the same ranking.

SOURCE: Pro Football Network

Mar 13, 2022, 6:37 PM ET

 

[SayWhat?]

Going to be the Bucs pick at 27. Mark it down.

 

[Dacomish]

I'm seriously considering packaging 1.03 and 1.05 for 1.01 in my non-SF league.....We don't trade future picks, so I may just have to put it all on Hall and spin the wheel....

 

[Faust]

Pro Football Focus' Trevor Sikkema has Iowa State RB Breece Hall going to the Dolphins at 29th overall in his latest mock draft.

Sikkema's mock draft dropped shortly before the Dolphins announced a deal with running back Chase Edmonds, but Hall could still fill a need as a bell cow back. Boasting one of the best combines of any running back in this year's class, Hall can play on any down and distance for an NFL team. In three seasons with the Cyclones, Hall rushed for 718-3941-50 while also catching 80 passes for 734 yards and six scores. The signing of Edmonds shouldn't be enough to rule Hall out as a first rounder, although it could decrease the likelihood of this coming to fruition. 

SOURCE: PFF.com

Mar 14, 2022, 3:16 PM ET

 

[Grahamburn]

Going to be the Bucs pick at 27. Mark it down.

Wouldn’t surprise me a bit with Tom back now. 

 

[IHEARTFF]

Wouldn’t surprise me a bit with Tom back now. 

that does seem very reasonable yes

 

[rockaction]

Really interesting Twitter feed. 

https://twitter.com/willson8tor/status/1506009094494121991

 

[IHEARTFF]

Really interesting Twitter feed. 

https://twitter.com/willson8tor/status/1506009094494121991

I need to read this some more to talk me down from my Ladanian Tomlinson comp swirling in my head

 

[rockaction]

I need to read this some more to talk me down from my Ladanian Tomlinson comp swirling in my head

Wow, you need something. How about a nice cup of water? 

No, seriously. He's not LaDanian Tomlinson. He's not even that close to Johnathan Taylor. He's just going to be very good, IMO. We shall see. They say there are deficiencies in his game on film that might take some time to iron out at the professional level. 

In many comps, in addition to comparing with Saquon and other all-stars, he comps to Trent Richardson, too. Eww. That's a downer. 

So who really knows? I've now got my eggs in one basket (retrospectively not too brightly, as I traded for the 1.01) before the draft even takes place. Let's hope he goes to a place that needs him right away and where he'll thrive with his athleticism. 

Let's also check the pro day he puts forth. 

 

[Capella]

Wouldn’t surprise me a bit with Tom back now. 

Hmmm. I’m pretty convinced they go left guard unless they all get sniped in front of them. This kid would be interesting though. 

 

[Capella]

Aaaaaaaaaand Fournette just signed back in Tampa. So doubt Hall comes here. 

 

[rockaction]

Aaaaaaaaaand Fournette just signed back in Tampa. So doubt Hall comes here. 

Terms make sense. Three years for 21 million dollars or 24 with incentives. I had him in the four-six million dollar range in a post I just made, but this makes sense. 

 

[rockaction]

Now all they need to do is bring back RoJo. 

Seriously. 

Okay, I kid. 

 

[Grahamburn]

Aaaaaaaaaand Fournette just signed back in Tampa. So doubt Hall comes here. 

I expect they'll still draft one, but yeah, it doesn't need to be a premium pick now.

 

[Faust]

The Athletic's Joe Buscaglia believes the Bills could take Iowa State RB Breece Hall in the first round of the 2023 NFL Draft. 

Hall, Buscaglia argues, would be the final piece in a potent offense that lacks of dangerous, every-down backfield threat. At the NFL Scouting Combine in February, Hall led all running backs with a 40-inch vertical and a 10'6" broad jump. His outrageous collegiate production included 3,044 rushing yards and 41 rushing scores over his final two years at Iowa State. Hall is a solid pass catcher, averaging three receptions for 24.2 yards per game in his last collegiate season. "The ability to make something out of nothing as a pass catcher is a trait worth chasing," Buscaglia said. "And if the Bills are shifting to more of a zone running scheme, [Hall's] skills would work perfectly within that." Buscaglia said Hall in 2022 would likely split backfield duties with Devin Singletary -- entering the final year of his rookie deal -- before taking over as the team's every-down back in 2023. With defenses dropping two safeties deep in coverage against the dangerous Bills passing attack, Buscaglia said an explosive running back would make teams pay for their soft-box approach. It would be surprising if an analytics-focused organization like the Bills used first-round draft capital on a running back, especially after Singletary showed he can function as an every-down runner. 

RELATED: 

Devin Singletary

, Buffalo Bills

SOURCE: The Athletic 

Mar 24, 2022, 8:53 AM ET

 

[Faust]

Iowa State RB Breece Hall was the top running back before and after contact. 

There was excitement about Hall (6'1/220) coming into the predraft process, but after the combine, it soared beyond expectation. There was a debate between him and Kenneth Walker being taken as the first running back overall in the second round, but Hall is not getting some consideration late in the second round. His 1,370 yards before contact was best amongst power five runningbacks and the 1,648 yards after contact was also first. His speed, ankle-breaking cuts, and ability to continue after contact should have him move into a three-down back role for whoever drafts him. 

SOURCE: PFF College

Mar 27, 2022, 4:18 PM ET

 

[Faust]

2022 NFL draft: Breece Hall scouting report

2022 NFL Draft: Breece Hall Scouting Report

Breece Hall NFL Draft profile 2021: Fantasy Football fits, scouting report, pro day stats, 40 time, more

Dynasty Rookie Prospect Profile: Breece Hall (2022 Fantasy Football)

 

[Faust]

ESPN's Matt Miller believes Iowa State RB Breece Hall's "sweet spot" includes the Bucs with the 27th pick in the 2022 NFL Draft. 

Hall, Miller said, would also be sensible for the Bills, who have the 25th pick in the draft. Hall at the NFL Scouting Combine led all running backs with a 40-inch vertical and a 10'6" broad jump. His collegiate production included 3,044 rushing yards and 41 rushing scores over his final two years at Iowa State, where he proved a capable pass catcher. The Bucs drafting Hall would pose serious workload issues for Leonard Fournette, 27, who re-signed with the Bucs in March. Hall would be an excellent candidate to emerge as the team's primary ball carrier in the season's second half, or if Fournette struggles with injuries. Under new head coach Todd Bowles, the Bucs reportedly plan to establish the run more than they have in Tom Brady's two seasons at the helm. Miller also mentioned Michigan State RB Kenneth Walker as a possible second round target for Tampa. 

RELATED: 

Leonard Fournette

, Kenneth Walker III

, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

SOURCE: ESPN.com 

Apr 1, 2022, 10:01 AM ET

 

[Obie Wan]

Joe B is full of crap

It's HIS hope the Bills finally replace Singletary - who he hates

1st round and/ or expensive RBs don't fit the Beane roster building plan.

It's a passing league with Josh Allen as his QB.

Resources will go to throwing the ball and protecting the QB.

As evidenced by the offer, McKissic is the type of back the Bills will splurge on 

3rd-4th round RBs and low cost free agents are what the Bills will ride at RB.

anything suggesting a 1st rd RB is just a smoke screen

 

[Faust]

WHY BREECE HALL COULD BE A BUCCANEERS FIT

 

[Faust]

PFF Draft @PFF_College

Breece Hall since 2019:

3,920 rushing yards (most in P5)
2,310 yards after contact (most)
50 rushing TDs (most)
194 forced missed tackles (most)

https://twitter.com/pff_college/status/1509336424172032003?s=21

 

[Faust]

NFL Draft: Breece Hall could make a fantasy impact — if he lands on the right team

 

[Faust]

Iowa State RB Breece Hall found the end zone more than just occasionally over his college career.

Hall (6'1/220) had a highly successful career at Iowa State -- one that's got him projected in the first and second round of the 2022 NFL Draft after he ran the ball 253 times for 1,472 rushing yards with 20 touchdowns in 2021. According to PFF, Hall's 50 career rushing touchdowns were the most by a Big 12 running back since 2014. 

Apr 7, 2022, 8:27 PM ET

 

[greenmountaingoat]

Landing spots:

Atlanta, Hou, Seattle . Meh, will be given opportunities early, will need to learn pass pro to get 3 down role. Short term, kind of a wash, potential for immediate RB 2 production is in tact. These offenses may be fine in 2 years so the long term outlook seems fine.

Buffalo lowers the year one outlook but better ceiling long term. 

Tampa: people are enamored but I hate it. He blows a couple of pass pro assignments and things get weird. They love Fournette. And cap hell is around the corner. With no QB and no early picks. 

Jets. Yay, committee on an offense that hasn’t proven anything. Please god, no.

 

[TripItUp]

Buffalo lowers the year one outlook but better ceiling long term. 

I would disagree with this.  Should seize the lead back role easily for one of the best offenses in the NFL...seems like a pretty good year one outlook to me.

 

[Faust]

According to Pro Football Focus, Iowa State RB Breece Hall had the most missed tackles on receptions amongst all BIG 12 running backs.

Hall (6'1/220) is the prototypical dual-threat running back in this draft, and that's the reason why most mocks has him going first at the position. He has the quick-cut ability through the line, but his strength allows him to fight for those extra yards. He showed during his time at Iowa State that he can get defenders off balance with14 missed tackles just on receptions alone last season. If you look at Hall, you see the size of Leonard Fournette but quicker. If goes in the second round like many project, it could potentially be a steal.

SOURCE: PFF College

Apr 10, 2022, 3:00 PM ET

 

[Drezden]

I invested way too much in 1.01 this offseason so it most likely will be something like  Houston but I think Buffalo will be the best landing spot.  

 

[TripItUp]

The question to me is if he lands in Houston or another poor franchise...is he still the 1.01?   I guess we'll know the consensus in a few weeks.

 

[zamboni]

The question to me is if he lands in Houston or another poor franchise...is he still the 1.01?   I guess we'll know the consensus in a few weeks.

To me, he’s the 1.01 in dynasty regardless of where he lands. Have to follow the talent.

For redraft, landing spot is obviously going to be more key. Buffalo would indeed be wheels up from the get go, but Houston wouldn’t be bad IMO.

 

[TripItUp]

To me, he’s the 1.01 in dynasty regardless of where he lands. Have to follow the talent.

For redraft, landing spot is obviously going to be more key. Buffalo would indeed be wheels up from the get go, but Houston wouldn’t be bad IMO.

yeah, I think he's got guaranteed volume in Houston...versus a team like the Pats or SF.(as a hypothetical comparison, doubt he goes to either of those)

 

[zamboni]

yeah, I think he's got guaranteed volume in Houston...versus a team like the Pats or SF.(as a hypothetical comparison, doubt he goes to either of those)

Tampa is another seemingly less attractive redraft team that’s talked about - which would be good dynasty wise but he might have to wait a year behind Fournette unless Lenny really struggled or got hurt.

 

[Faust]

BREECE HALL'S 5 BEST NFL FITS 

 

[Faust]

The Texans hosted Iowa State RB Breece Hall for a visit on Wednesday.

This fit has some legs. The Texans could absolutely use a multi-faceted back to help Davis Mills along in Year 2, and they don't come any more multi-faceted than Hall in this class. Not only would he immediately profile as a bellcow runner for Houston, but Hall would provide a reliable YAC source for Mills as a checkdown option in the passing game. The Texans' pick at No. 37 overall could ripe ground for a runner, be it Hall or Michigan State's Kenneth Walker. 

SOURCE: NFL.com

Apr 13, 2022, 5:31 PM ET

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Matt Miller@nfldraftscout

I know Twitter is anti-first round RB and I get it…but Breece Hall has the ability to make a huge Day 1 impact on an offense. Awesome size, speed, vision, hands…total package.

 

[Ilov80s]

Matt Miller@nfldraftscout

I know Twitter is anti-first round RB and I get it…but Breece Hall has the ability to make a huge Day 1 impact on an offense. Awesome size, speed, vision, hands…total package.

I’m in favor of first round RBs from a fantasy perspective- especially when I have the 1.01 in dynasty 

 

[Faust]

According to Pro Football Focus, Iowa State RB Breece Hall has the most 10+ yard runs since 2019.

Most experts have Hall (6'1"/220) sitting on top of their board of running backs rankings. His dual-threat ability and blazing speed have made him into a prospect that could become a dangerous three-down back. Hall also has the big-play ability as his 102 carries of 10 more yards since 2019 is 16 more than Isaiah Spiller in that time. Hall is looking like an early Day 2 pick, but he could easily hear his name called on Day 1 with the buzz he's getting.

SOURCE: PFF College

Apr 16, 2022, 1:04 PM ET

 

[Faust]

Iowa State RB Breece Hall is the odds on favorite to be the first running back drafted on the SI Sportsbook.

Hall's odds on the SI Sportsbook sit at -300, with Michigan State's Kenneth Walker coming in second at +220. It's surprising to see Hall looking like the run away favorite here, with Walker also putting together an impressive 2021 that at times looked like a Heisman season. In his three seasons at Iowa State, Hall totaled 3,941 yards and 50 touchdowns on the ground, while also compiling an 82-734-6 receiving line. It's not farfetched to think that Hall could be the top back taken in this year's draft, but at -300, it feels like Walker is being a bit disrespected.

SOURCE: Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Apr 18, 2022, 2:41 PM ET

 

[Faust]

Why Breece Hall Could be the Next Jonathan Taylor

Excerpt:

Breece Hall, Iowa State

BackCAST Score: +149.1%
Type of Back: Receiving
Similar Historical Prospects: Dalvin Cook, LaDainian Tomlinson

Breece Hall is a fantastic running back prospect. Although he comes short of Jonathan Taylor's titanic projection, that is a bit like losing to Michael Jordan in a slam dunk contest—no shame there. Hall has the fourth-highest BackCAST projection of all time, falling behind only Taylor, Ricky Williams, and Saquon Barkley. Even better for value-seeking teams, Hall's projected draft position is low relative to a back with his level of talent. Scouts Inc., for example, currently rates Hall as the 66th overall prospect and only the second-highest rated running back behind Michigan State's Kenneth Walker III.

Hall is an excellent combination of size and speed. Hall has decent size at 217 pounds and ran a very quick 4.39s 40-yard dash. However, Hall's collegiate production is where he really shines. BackCAST likes running backs who take hold of their college backfields early and never let go, and Hall certainly fits that profile, absorbing 45%, 61%, and 68% of his team's rushing attempts during his three years at Iowa State, respectively.

The only weakness in Hall's projection is that he averaged "only" 5.5 yards per attempt. Although yards per attempt is an important metric, there is also a record of success for running backs with relatively low yards per attempt numbers who scored highly on other metrics. For example, the legendary Adrian Peterson averaged only 5.4 yards per attempt in college and the immortal LeSean McCoy averaged only 4.8.

The one area where Hall tops Taylor is the receiving game. Hall, in addition to his heavy workload in the running game, also contributed substantially to the Cyclones' passing attack, catching 82 passes for 734 yards. For that reason, NFL teams can have an extra level of confidence when drafting Hall, because even if he does not work out as a pure runner, it is likely that he will add value as a receiver coming out of the backfield.

Certainly, BackCAST is far from 100% effective, but Hall has many indicators that historically point to success.

 

[BoltBacker]

I dunno. Feels to me like CEH to the Chiefs all over again. The fantasy community is desperate for a RB to land as a three down back in a great offense so they are trying to will themselves to believing that the RB is worthy of a 1st round draft choice. Whenever I see any mock where Hall is drafted by BUF I ALWAYS see a guy drafted later that puts BUF closer to winning a SB. ALWAYS.

If Hall makes any sense in the 1st round it's to TEN imo. Henry has a ton of miles on his tires and TEN can part ways with that contract painlessly in 2023. Even if Henry is still playing like a pro-bowler in 2022 and 2023 so what? You can still use them both and you have depth at the position the TEN offense is completely built around. Hall just fits that offense.

Maybe it's because I think TEN is kind of a faux-contender that is danger of losing AJ Brown and BUF is a legit contender but Hall makes a ton more sense in TEN than he does in BUF even if the fantasy community would hate it happening. Draft Hall and use the money you save on Henry leaving in 2023 to extend AJ. AJ can be dominant for ~9 years. As Henry enters his age 29 season in 2023(with a TON of mileage on those tires) he'll be this dominant for.... 1 more year? Was last year the beginning of the end?

 

[zamboni]

I dunno. Feels to me like CEH to the Chiefs all over again. The fantasy community is desperate for a RB to land as a three down back in a great offense so they are trying to will themselves to believing that the RB is worthy of a 1st round draft choice.

I hear what you're saying, but not sure I see it like the CEH situation. CEH was valued so highly because of the situation he landed in, not necessarily his measurables/talent. Based on most scouts, Hall has supreme talent, but the landing spot is very much in the air and will drive his value.

 

[rockaction]

I dunno. Feels to me like CEH to the Chiefs all over again

CEH was like 1.06 in rookie rankings until the Chiefs took him. His times and other measurements were not good. Not like Hall, whose RAS (Relative Athletic Score), measurements, and three-year college production are getting him compared to Saquon/McFadden and others. 

 

[menobrown]

I hear what you're saying, but not sure I see it like the CEH situation. CEH was valued so highly because of the situation he landed in, not necessarily his measurables/talent. Based on most scouts, Hall has supreme talent,

Respectfully don't agree. I had CEH rated #3 before the draft(and saying that does NOT make me look good). And it was had zero to do with his measureable but everything to do with his talent which looked great to me. The Alabama game in particular.

I don't think most scouts think Hall has supreme talent over CEH and many prefer Walker. But he no doubt has better measurables. From a pure measurables angle it's night and day between CEH and Hall.

 

[zamboni]

Respectfully don't agree. I had CEH rated #3 before the draft(and saying that does NOT make me look good). And it was had zero to do with his measureable but everything to do with his talent which looked great to me. The Alabama game in particular.

Perhaps you saw something in CEH that others didn’t, but IIRC there was not the same talent buzz around CEH as there is with Hall. Most draft experts were surprised that CEH the first RB off the board and drafted by KC in that spot. I think most thought Swift or (maybe) Taylor would go there. I admittedly don’t have the ability to truly judge talent and rely on those that do and watched a ton of film. 

 

[Leroy Hoard]

As long as they don't land in hell I like both Hall & Walker this year.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

@zamboniI thought the same thing but weirdly, I came to hunch before I responded that  @BoltBacker is actually referring specifically to the Bills. Who I agree are potentially a worse landing spot IMO than folks are assuming. 

Maybe I'm wrong but the only fits that I'd be worried about long term (as a rebuilding dynasty team with the 1.01) are teams that seem locked in to 3 back RBBC as a philosophy. New England, Baltimore (I'm counting L Jax). The talent is there and the skillset is fairly diverse. He's going to have to put a lot of work in pass pro before he's trusted out there as an every down back anyway. 

I see no reason to believe that he can't "Jax Robinson 2020" his way to a top 10 finish this year if he gets drafted by an ATL/HOU type of situation. And health willing.. be a perennial 70% RB touches guy on those teams. They can't stink forever, can they? Hall turns 21 next month. 

 

[zamboni]

@zamboniI thought the same thing but weirdly, I came to hunch before I responded that  @BoltBacker is actually referring specifically to the Bills. Who I actually agree are potentially a worse landing spot IMO than folks are assuming. 

Thanks for the clarification - perhaps I misunderstood.

I do agree that Buffalo may not be as great of a spot as many are saying just because it's a high-powered offense. Houston or Atlanta could provide more high-touch upside without a high-caliber rushing QB like Buffalo has in Allen. 

I guess it boils down to whether Hall is all that in terms of talent. If he is, then no matter where he goes he'll be a premium fantasy asset. But if he's just as good as CEH is, then he'll probably be overvalued. Time will tell, I guess.

 

[Faust]

CBS Sports' Chris Trapasso believes the only RB who could be taken in the first round is Iowa State RB Breece Hall.

For months the talk around running backs has come down to Hall (6'1/220) or Michigan State's Kenneth Walker as the RB1 of this year's draft. Taking a running back in the first round has become a mostly taboo practice relative to the days of old. Viewed more as a luxury item than a position of necessity, not many teams can justify taking a running back early. However, Trapasso's point about the Bills has some merit. Buffalo is a talent rich team, who could better use its 25th overall, but Hall would become the top back on Buffalo's offense the moment he becomes drafted.

SOURCE: Chris Trapasso on Twitter

Apr 26, 2022, 3:06 PM ET