https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NitsRa00.htmHe was a rookie in 1963 and pro-football reference has him as number 66 and his rookie card is 66 and he wore 66 his entire career.. Why is this even a discussion?
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NitsRa00.htmHe was a rookie in 1963 and pro-football reference has him as number 66 and his rookie card is 66 and he wore 66 his entire career.. Why is this even a discussion?
http://www0.nfl.packers.com/history/record_book/results_and_rosters/all_time_jersey_numbers/?number=33He was a rookie in 1963 and pro-football reference has him as number 66 and his rookie card is 66 and he wore 66 his entire career.. Why is this even a discussion?
Obscure for sure. I wonder how many actual games he played in that he wore number 33?
he did play (he has stats) but not many games I believe. he wasn't a starter until 60Obscure for sure. I wonder how many actual games he played in that he wore number 33?
May play week 5, per coach. Not as serious as thought, per Schefter.
Grain of salt, but the team never reported broken ribs.
I think this means that Aaron Jones is a sleeper add in IDP leagues.
I disagree.They never do unless absolutely necessary. Romo said it on the broadcast. He could still have a very small fracture and they don't have to give out that information. Just the tag "questionable" whatever and "rib injury" ...
Not to hijack but my goodness... the guy is a mixture of Captain Obvious meets John MaddenI disagree.
First, Romo is a moron. Never listen to anything he said, as it only contributes to the dumbing down of America.
2nd, teams have reported broken bones consistently since the injury report shenanigans rules went into place (thanks to the patriots). They can’t list a player who’s out as questionable. They have to report him as doubtful or out.
that all said, we won’t know until the Wednesday injury report comes out. That’s the official statement by the team, and they’re subject to league discipline if they are untruthful.
Broken ribs is different than Bellickick listing Brady as “questionable, shoulder” for 27 straight games.
Ty Montgomery (ribs) was not seen at the early portion of Thursday's practice.
Montgomery put in a limited practice on Wednesday and was expected to do the same on Thursday, though he was nowhere to be found during individual drills. A DNP Thursday would not be a good omen for Montgomery's Week 5 status. Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams would share the load if TyMont can't go Sunday against Dallas
I stand corrected Ty Mont might actually play. This backfield is a COMPLETE mess.Monty isn't playing. Too much risk.
I predict 10 carries for Jones, 5 carries for Williams, 5 carries for Rip, 5 carries for Rodgers. In other words, they will all sap into each other's production.
Waldman wrote an interesting article on this in the Gut Check weekly content...Williams must be a great pass protector, because he doesn't look like a very dynamic RB.
I personally found the bolded to be quite a statement... I respect a lot of what Waldman writes and that was quite the assessment of Jones considering many backs in this draft are very good at receiving.A lot of football writers have linked me to Jamaal Williams because I did a film room show with him as a guest. I also had Williams as my No. 6 back in the pre-draft version of the RSP. What you may not know is that Jones was my No. 10 runner and the difference in that ranking was small enough that you could have interchanged Williams and Jones depending on the needs of a team.
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While slightly different in style, Williams and Jones both have the talent to produce on the level of starting ball carriers in the NFL. Williams has the slightly bigger frame, Jones has better burst and change of direction. Williams was the better pass protector in college, Jones was arguably the best pure pass catcher among all 2017 running back prospects.
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Fast-forward to this fall and if I were to judge these players only on their regular season touches with the Packers as if I had never seen their tape, I'd tell you that Williams looks stiff, slow, and unimaginative as a runner. Jones appears fluid, quick, and comfortable.
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Williams doesn't look like the back I saw at BYU
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If I were to create a narrative around his play, I'd guess that Williams has bought into the Packers and media's assessment that he's a straight-line banger and power back who wears defenses down. Until the Senior Bowl, many public listings for Williams were 225-230 pounds when Williams' trainer told me in Mobile that the runner always played in the range of 210-212 pounds.
Williams also had a lot more wiggle to his game. He's capable of sharp cuts downhill, stop-start moves in tight spaces and jump-cuts to the next gap over. These haven't been consistent tools that have shown up in his running this summer or early fall. These were big parts of his running style that made him successful and a back I compared a lot of his game stylistically to former 49er and Eagles runner, Ricky Watters.
Whether he's over-thinking the game or trying to be what the Packers say he should be, he's playing tight and it's led to mediocre outcomes on most of his touches. This wasn't the case for Jones when he entered the game to replace the injured Williams. Jones didn't have huge gains but his timing with the line was better and he displayed better comfort as if he was playing rather than thinking.
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Ty Montgomery has multiple broken ribs but could play this week. Williams will only miss a week with a minor knee sprain and despite the "stiff" style, he's earned limited touches per game and has never gotten a chance to get into a flow that is often important for backs. Williams is also the superior pass protector.
While Jones may emerge at some point and hold onto a significant role if he can develop as a pass protector and make the best of future extended playing time, I think he's the most likely short-term fool's gold spend of the three backs in this piece. Long-term, he belongs on your dynasty rosters.
I posted the same above and was shocked to read that as wellWaldman wrote an interesting article on this in the Gut Check weekly content...
I personally found the bolded to be quite a statement... I respect a lot of what Waldman writes and that was quite the assessment of Jones considering many backs in this draft are very good at receiving.
Pretty much my whole RB core right now outsodeof gimpy Gordon and :X Crowell.Another full practice for Williams...
No one even knows who is gonna start the NFL game...can't see how anyone can can start Jones in FF other than as a complete crap shoot.
I dont know where I read it but I think he was the top pass protector of rookie running backs. Big reason why he's on the field rather than Jones at the moment... that might change when Jones shows what he can do.Williams must be a great pass protector, because he doesn't look like a very dynamic RB.
Thus why I'm starting him with confidence.It'll be kind of hard to start Jones this week but I'm low key happy Williams is playing so everyone can watch Jones out perform him like he did through-out the majority of the preseason.
I just figured everyone was tired of the same song and dance with boring player titles. of it bothers you i will be sure to shorten it@Dr. Dan good god man shorten the title of this thread
This is the key...for him to be fantasy-relevant step 1 is passing Williams on the depth-chart...do that and he is a Ty Montgomery injury away from potentially blowing up and if he doesn't get hurt Jones will still have some legit value...It'll be kind of hard to start Jones this week but I'm low key happy Williams is playing so everyone can watch Jones out perform him like he did through-out the majority of the preseason.
I may start him also. All he needs is the touches imo. Dallas' defense will get abused by GB. Looks like Lee will be out again tooGrabbed Jones this week when I lost Carson to IR. So tempted to use him this week. Currently have Duke and Gore in lineup but seriously considering a change. I noticed Waldmans take on Jones this week as well and that's why I'm now mulling starting him.
Man.......I'll look like a genius if I have the stones to start him this week and he goes off......leaning towards it now with that little bit of info about Lee.I may start him also. All he needs is the touches imo. Dallas' defense will get abused by GB. Looks like Lee will be out again too
Williams isn't on the injury report so....idk what I'm doingMan.......I'll look like a genius if I have the stones to start him this week and he goes off......leaning towards it now with that little bit of info about Lee.
You assume a lotWilliams is much better. Given the chance he'll impress and Jones will become a scat back or hurt.
Nah, just watch a ton of college football and guess what I'll see. Not afraid to state my opinion and be right or wrong. That's what we're supposed to do here, right?You assume a lot
HorrendousSlider said:Williams is much better. Given the chance he'll impress and Jones will become a scat back or hurt.
so wrong. Jones has been better since preseason game 1Slider said:Williams is much better. Given the chance he'll impress and Jones will become a scat back or hurt.
this is the NFL right? lots of guys good in college and did nothing in the NFL. Williams did better in college but Jones fits the GB offense way better. Williams is a less fat, less good lacySlider said:Nah, just watch a ton of college football and guess what I'll see. Not afraid to state my opinion and be right or wrong. That's what we're supposed to do here, right?
Any idea why Williams was the next guy in when Ty went down if he's been so bad?what's interesting is that I would say it'll either be Jones going nuts this week or Mays and everyone will be scrambling to pick Mays up next week lol.
Williams has looked bad since he put on green and gold. unfortunate
Everybody says it's pass pro, but there's a lot more to it than that. It's true Williams is much better in pass pro, but at this point, they aren't moving Jones over Williams because he was better in preseason games. Preseason action is so subjective not to mention the small sample size.Any idea why Williams was the next guy in when Ty went down if he's been so bad?
Not saying you're wrong, I just don't know the answer
he was next on the depth chart. and he was drafted higher. with Ted Thompson and RBs in the past this held true.Any idea why Williams was the next guy in when Ty went down if he's been so bad?
Not saying you're wrong, I just don't know the answer
what makes you think Williams can be a featured back? nothing in his draft scouting suggested such. many scouts and pundits compared him to James Starks.Everybody says it's pass pro, but there's a lot more to it than that. It's true Williams is much better in pass pro, but at this point, they aren't moving Jones over Williams because he was better in preseason games. Preseason action is so subjective not to mention the small sample size.
Jones had all training camp to beat out Williams & he didn't do it. I like Williams better than Jones as a potential feature back, but I'm also not sure the Packers even view Jones as feature back material. Not every RB is drafted as a potential feature back.
Interesting situation for sure.
Dreaded game-time decision for both of them.Do they have their tackles back this week?
I know quite a few people who are fairly high on Williams, including Waldman (& the Packers). Personally, I like his overall game & believe it'll transfer to the pros as he gets more comfortable. Williams needs to get more aggressive similar to the way he played in college, but he's much more dynamic than given credit for by many people.what makes you think Williams can be a featured back? nothing in his draft scouting suggested such. many scouts and pundits compared him to James Starks.