FUBAR
Footballguy
Cool. I want to start for the Titans too.
Seriously, there's a reason he was the 10th QB taken, in the 6th. But his attitude is the right one to have.
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Seriously, there's a reason he was the 10th QB taken, in the 6th. But his attitude is the right one to have.
msommer
Footballguy
Absolutely.
He will be handed nothing, if he can take something it will be through injury or having earned it.
Not a big fan, but like the attitude. Hopefully he can keep his head from creeping back up his backside again.
Dismattle
Footballguy
Im not in agreement with the Cam product argument.. Zach was quite successful @ Butler 11-1 (Only four picks) However I do appreciate the Info, which may explain his lack of hype?
msommer
Footballguy
And he can take punch to the face...
http://www.tennessean.com/story/titansinsider/2014/07/21/zach-mettenberger-tennessee-titans-losers/12953789/
Well, I guess the good news is that he is hanging out with Taylor Lewan and that Lewan is in Nashville
http://www.tennessean.com/story/titansinsider/2014/07/21/zach-mettenberger-tennessee-titans-losers/12953789/
Well, I guess the good news is that he is hanging out with Taylor Lewan and that Lewan is in Nashville
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Get him on your radar.
He looked really good tonight. 20/25/269/2/1
He looked really good tonight. 20/25/269/2/1
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Yeah, I think it's oversimple to say that Mettenberger was merely a product of Cameron's system but it definitely factors into evaluating him. You have to take Cameron into account; there are no two ways about that. He was the first legitimate OC at LSU for several years and everything about our offense transformed under him. In 2013 we had the 32nd-ranked offense in the nation (42nd in passing, 30th in rushing), rankings we would have killed for prior to Cameron. In 2012 we absolutely sucked on offense, and the rankings don't even sufficiently capture just how bad we were: 77th overall, 46th in rushing, 90th in passing. Our passing game wasn't anything close to legitimate until late in the 2012 season (when Mettenberger provided a preview of 2013 against Alabama).
On the other hand, Mettenberger was a 4-star prospect coming out of HS and expectations were always high for him, both when he was (briefly) at UGA and when he signed with LSU. Several guys who were top but underperforming prospects--like Mettenberger, Beckham, and Landry--were clearly helped by Cameron in 2013, but I also think it's possible they matured and played their best football around the same time.
My main concern with him is a Ryan-Mallett-type profile, as he is similarly a tall QB with a big arm, but also a statue in the pocket.
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Faust
MVP
Zach Mettenberger is not ready yet:
http://espn.go.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/9508/zach-mettenberger-is-not-ready-yet
http://espn.go.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/9508/zach-mettenberger-is-not-ready-yet
I don't agree.
5 passes is too small to make such an evaluation.
Right now, he is what the Titans need (and what the fans need) to move forward. There is a wimpy batch of QBing going on whether it's Locker or Whitehurst and they won't take a NORMAL risk that is normally very much part of the game.
Wright and Hunter had almost as many targets in just his brief garbage time, then the whole rest of the game.
At this point, oh so many fans are noticing Wright and Hunter open and not getting passes. I don't know what Locker's deal is but he's a wimp and won't make a normal throw. Last year it was short dink n dunk passes to Wright and Nate. This year it's short to the TE and RB. Cmon!
We have not seen either the coach's or the OC's supposed offensive prowess. We've seen some garbage from the 1960s type offense.
If you take away the balls thrown 3 feet or more away from Walker and Hunter, their targets would be soooo small.
This is also a tough group of hard working men that mirrored their previous coach. They went down fighting and looked tired after losses. The last two games they look totally dejected and hopeless. There's serious frustration. He's gotta figure out how to throw them a bone. Blitz Michael Griffin, challenge the OL that they're gonna run 10 times in a row....i don't know what it is but he's gotta keep the spirits up of the one's working and playing well. He loses that, they're 1-15 and losing a lot of free agents. He didn't have the best team to build upon, but he some excellent parts. Check out titansonline for interviews after the games. Casey is still fired up and doing well and his attitude is good. The rest are concerning.
Again, this is a coach that preached over and over that they could and would win now.
Cameron's is a pro system. I took this (not yours, original report) as horespucky. Some draft folks will give huge credit to a college QB playing a pro system and then other times they use it against him.
My thinking is he had some success little extra credit for pro system.
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I think this right here saves Whisenhunt's job.
I am already thinking he should be fired.
Charlie "my boy" Whitehurst was not helping him any.
Generally, young QB and lots of losses is grrr acceptable in the NFL.
The penalties are so very high. The disorganization, stagnant O, there's so much building up quick to fire this guy.
On defense, they've been terrible but I see a DC scheming and trying. You don't go from 3-4 to 4-3, to 8 DBs, to 8 down linemen to 6 n 5 as often as they do and not be well coached.
Give me that on offense and I'd be happy even with losses.
This DC if he became interim coach, they'd probably have 4 wide, 5 wide, break out the option, I formation, 3 TEs, Wright in backfield with a direct snap maybe, Sankey in the slot....fail trying, fail being creative, not throwing 50 screen passes and 4 yard crossing routes.
Mettenberger is probably going to hit Hunter deep, maybe Wright breaks one and there's that word hope. They averaged 5-6 per carry in the first when the Browns couldn't stop the pass and their line was beastly on some runs. If his gun can give the RBs some room they might even win a game.
He led the NFL in passing in preseason. Generally that just means he was a third stringer. Still, in an abysmal season people will attach to that stat and bring it up if he even has a decent game-hope
Only thing Whisenhunt has left to do is prepare him and explain to Charlie no hope Whitehurst. Hope is the whole difference here and why he'll probably keep his job if he goes with Mettenberger
I am already thinking he should be fired.
Charlie "my boy" Whitehurst was not helping him any.
Generally, young QB and lots of losses is grrr acceptable in the NFL.
The penalties are so very high. The disorganization, stagnant O, there's so much building up quick to fire this guy.
On defense, they've been terrible but I see a DC scheming and trying. You don't go from 3-4 to 4-3, to 8 DBs, to 8 down linemen to 6 n 5 as often as they do and not be well coached.
Give me that on offense and I'd be happy even with losses.
This DC if he became interim coach, they'd probably have 4 wide, 5 wide, break out the option, I formation, 3 TEs, Wright in backfield with a direct snap maybe, Sankey in the slot....fail trying, fail being creative, not throwing 50 screen passes and 4 yard crossing routes.
Mettenberger is probably going to hit Hunter deep, maybe Wright breaks one and there's that word hope. They averaged 5-6 per carry in the first when the Browns couldn't stop the pass and their line was beastly on some runs. If his gun can give the RBs some room they might even win a game.
He led the NFL in passing in preseason. Generally that just means he was a third stringer. Still, in an abysmal season people will attach to that stat and bring it up if he even has a decent game-hope
Only thing Whisenhunt has left to do is prepare him and explain to Charlie no hope Whitehurst. Hope is the whole difference here and why he'll probably keep his job if he goes with Mettenberger
Touchdown There
Footballguy
This guy should get a shot. The Titan first two QB's are junk and there is no way they sign Locker to a new contract.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Mett w/ Hunter will work I think. And I believe Mett will be good, maybe he can change things.
It seems to me they have a terrific WR corps, a good pass catching back in Dex, Sakey, and Del Walker. I don't know much about the line but that seemed like it was in very good hands for years under Munchak and Fisher.
Locker just never works out. And for whatever reason this often always seems like the most boring, vanilla, blah offense in the league, year after year.
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Touchdown There
Footballguy
Locker has been killin' the Titans for years.
bumping this- Whitehurst did do OK last week.
Mettenberger didn't take but "a few" 1st team reps as he's done since day one. He spends his days running the scout team. Whisenhunt does NOT seem inclined to give Zach practice time with the 1s so he's further away from starting than some of us might have thought
Mettenberger didn't take but "a few" 1st team reps as he's done since day one. He spends his days running the scout team. Whisenhunt does NOT seem inclined to give Zach practice time with the 1s so he's further away from starting than some of us might have thought
shader
Footballguy
It's not premature. Whiz doesn't like Locker and never has. They likely want to know what they have in Mettenberger before next years draft. Whitehurst is pathetic.
Mett has a huge arm. I think it's good news for Justin Hunter.
Locker had moments of brilliance but was just too inaccurate for an NFL qb and simply couldn't stay healthy.
Mett has a huge arm. I think it's good news for Justin Hunter.
Locker had moments of brilliance but was just too inaccurate for an NFL qb and simply couldn't stay healthy.
wormburner
Footballguy
We'll see if he picked up any footwork tips from Sankey while he's running for his life.
I'm excited here.
Last week Whisenhunt seemed so disinterested in this when he discussed him running the scout team, that I was kind of bummed. It's on titansonline, no way you get Mett starting from that interview.
I'm curious if the owner made this call and/or pushed his buttons. Like I've said, they signed an offensive guru and this O is terrible. Throwing 3 passes to the WRs in a half isn't even trying.
I think this is the only way Whisenhunt keeps his job
Last week Whisenhunt seemed so disinterested in this when he discussed him running the scout team, that I was kind of bummed. It's on titansonline, no way you get Mett starting from that interview.
I'm curious if the owner made this call and/or pushed his buttons. Like I've said, they signed an offensive guru and this O is terrible. Throwing 3 passes to the WRs in a half isn't even trying.
I think this is the only way Whisenhunt keeps his job
EastonBlues22
Footballguy
I think any owners of Wright and Hunter have to be pretty excited by this news.
That said, I wouldn't want to be in the position of having to start one of them this Sunday.
That said, I wouldn't want to be in the position of having to start one of them this Sunday.
FUBAR
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
Own one or the other in every league I'm in. I'd be a whole lot more excited if Locker could stay healthy and perform to his potential.
As a Titans fan I'm fairly convinced that their future starting QB isn't on the team.
Van Dyman
Footballguy
seahawk 17
Footballguy
Any homers have insight on the O-Line? I read Mett is a pocket passer, is the kid going to have anytime to throw? As far as fantasy, anytime I see a rookie or crappy back up playing, my rule of thumb is to start teams TE. Look for Walker to benefit here.
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The Titans have almost always had a good to great OL. This year has been an adjustment though. Levitre has played poorly but his response was to put more work in and has been good lately. I don't like Oher at RT. I wished the rook just went there, except he is now the starting LT. He is different. He runs a lot for a T and isn't the typical human wall type, he's always moving his feet. They've done pretty well this year, I think I'd grade them good. They have an awesome blocking TE who has been hurt some, but he sure makes up for any deficiencies. I expect Mett to get clocked when someone goes right past Oher and then Stevens to settle that the next play. Walker should still see plenty of targets. He was doing a Gates impersonation a few weeks back, Stevens' blocking won't take him out of the offense.
Whitehurst and Locker had a very reasonable amount of time. Enough for fans to complain they noticed Hunter or Wright wide open.
Mettenberger played a real little bit to close a game and he looked super nervous. It might be good he got that out of his system. He might start off nervous again.
Everyone seems to say he makes poor decisions and always has. This switch has to be about putting up some points, moving the ball, running an O that doesn't look like it was created in 1960.
I expect some INTs but high yardage. I'd guess he's a meh NFL QB this year, but good for some FF leagues.
The Titans have had Young, Fitz, Locker, and Whitehurst. He's gonna look great to some Titans fans while maybe just decent to the rest of the world. Its hard to explain ducks, and throws at feet or way over their head and how over time that demoralizes a team and it's fan base
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I think Mett will be good and will help the receivers, especially Hunter and don't be surprised if he emerges. Mettenberger was a solid QB at LSU and he looked good in the preseason game in the Dome. I don't know why he fell so much in the draft, if anything besides the knee injury, but he was coached up by OC Cam Cameron.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Faust
MVP
LOOK: Zach Mettenberger is 'Dazed and Confused'
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24764895/look-zach-mettenberger-is-dazed-and-confused
Donnybrook
Footballguy
I am not sure what Whisenhunt is thinking. I couldn't imagine a worst defensive to lineup against for a rookie QB - especially for a rookie QB that has limited mobility and prone to injury.
I totally don't think it was his decision. Read or watch the videos at titansonline check out the best reporters(Titans have some gems) and let me know if you think so.
As far as Ds, he said something along the lines of wait til after the bye and face the Ravens? Doesn't make much difference
I can't wait for tomorrow.
I am very much not a Whisenhunt fan this year but if Mett can throw it to Hunter and put the onus on him, if the RBs don't drive the legs like he wants and Antonio plays...I'm going to really appreciate some of these changes.
Some of his fans are pointing out he threw Battle a bone, then he threw Krug a bone. I do appreciate that-it's Munchak/Fisher like and I wouldn't mind if every hard worker got to play offense or got to get a single carry. Cowher might have even done that too, I don't recall. Regardless, I like any coach doing that.
I'm over ready to see a well designed offense-I'm ready to jump on the bandwagon, but Whisenhunt thus far hasn't done much as a Titans coach.
It'd sure be a nice start to have less than a million penalties this week
I am very much not a Whisenhunt fan this year but if Mett can throw it to Hunter and put the onus on him, if the RBs don't drive the legs like he wants and Antonio plays...I'm going to really appreciate some of these changes.
Some of his fans are pointing out he threw Battle a bone, then he threw Krug a bone. I do appreciate that-it's Munchak/Fisher like and I wouldn't mind if every hard worker got to play offense or got to get a single carry. Cowher might have even done that too, I don't recall. Regardless, I like any coach doing that.
I'm over ready to see a well designed offense-I'm ready to jump on the bandwagon, but Whisenhunt thus far hasn't done much as a Titans coach.
It'd sure be a nice start to have less than a million penalties this week
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