Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I'll take #20
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timschochet
Footballguy
Yankee, you're # 20. And that fills up all the slots.
All the "category judgships" are open at the present, though WP hasn't told me which ones he wants.
All the "category judgships" are open at the present, though WP hasn't told me which ones he wants.
the moops
Footballguy
You were just waiting so you could grab the turn, weren't you?
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Have I ever not tried to add a slight amount of strategery in these things?You were just waiting so you could grab the turn, weren't you?
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Is it necessary for me to read any rules from the other thread, or are the summations in the first couple posts enough to get a feel here?
Postradamus
Footballguy
I disagree, it might be the strongest WC out there.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Yeah, I'm just seeing this discussion here, but I can think of 20 fairly important "political" documents from world history. Heck, I can come up with at least 10 from our own. (Speeches would count, no?)I'm ok with whatever rules there are though. Just.... there are definately 20 political documents when you take your mind slightly away from formation - constitutions - and allow it to see revolutions, speeches, and war.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I'd be happy to judge any or all of the following:
Political/philosophical thought
TV Show
Sporting record
Political/philosophical thought
TV Show
Sporting record
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Ok, I'm caught up.....
Mona Lisa went too high, although it's obvious that it would. Too big of a name and far too powerful in culture. Still, two paintings in the top 3? When you can select pretty much anything mankind has ever "created?"
Mona Lisa went too high, although it's obvious that it would. Too big of a name and far too powerful in culture. Still, two paintings in the top 3? When you can select pretty much anything mankind has ever "created?"
Postradamus
Footballguy
Somebody must know something I don't...
timschochet
Footballguy
OK, on to my pick. The top three picks are highly worthy of the greatest human achievement. So, I think, is this one:
Symphony No. 5 in C minor, Op. 67 by Ludwig van Beethoven (1804-1808). Certainly the most famous musical piece ever written.
A couple of notes:
1. I had always thought this was about fate or death, but the Wikipedia article states that there is no evidence of this; that it's based on an after the fact essay by a man named Schindler (not the humanitarian.)
2. I didn't realize how long it took him to write it. (5 years.)
3. The symphony is scored for piccolo (fourth movement only), 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets in B flat and C, 2 bassoons, contrabassoon (fourth movement only), 2 horns in E flat and C, 2 trumpets, 3 trombones (alto, tenor, and bass, fourth movement only), timpani (in G-C) and strings.
(This is also news to me, though probably not to everyone here.)
Symphony No. 5 in C minor, Op. 67 by Ludwig van Beethoven (1804-1808). Certainly the most famous musical piece ever written.
A couple of notes:
1. I had always thought this was about fate or death, but the Wikipedia article states that there is no evidence of this; that it's based on an after the fact essay by a man named Schindler (not the humanitarian.)
2. I didn't realize how long it took him to write it. (5 years.)
3. The symphony is scored for piccolo (fourth movement only), 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets in B flat and C, 2 bassoons, contrabassoon (fourth movement only), 2 horns in E flat and C, 2 trumpets, 3 trombones (alto, tenor, and bass, fourth movement only), timpani (in G-C) and strings.
(This is also news to me, though probably not to everyone here.)
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
No..... my post comes off wrong. It's not a bad pick at all, and it's definately a first rounder. Just, to me, when you can pick from, basically everything, a painting doesn't climb up there for me. And from having to do some of the research for the other drafts, there are quite a few powerful paintings out there that are on canvasses, unlike the pick before yours which was brilliant.Your will score high and deserves to. I just wouldn't have gone there with the 3. If it was there at 20? I'm dancing the jig.
Postradamus
Footballguy
Certainly that is debatable. I was expecting this to last longer, although it is a strong composition and a worthy enough pick.
Postradamus
Footballguy
I'm sure we place importance on different things. I'm glad you'll be there to collect the riff-raff for me
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Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
timschochet
Footballguy
Thanks. I'm waiting for WP to state which ones he wants, then we'll go from there.I think somebody else already wants to judge sports records.I'd be happy to judge any or all of the followingolitical/philosophical thoughtTV ShowSporting record
krista4
Footballguy
Not a merger of equals, though; I am humbled to be part of Team Fennis, winner of the GAD and all-around captain of hilarity.I can judge if categories remain available, too (leaving out Team Fennis, of course). Love that Yankee is in.
wikkid has great ideas, and tim runs a great draft, so I'm glad to be 1/2 of a part of it!
Postradamus
Footballguy
Bonzai
Footballguy
Can't argue with it.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Glad you're in Yankee23fan, good to have ya.I'll take painting judgeship (signed up for it in the OGWD thread).
Another vote for reinstitution of the Political Documents category - although I think Treatise might be more appropriate. This should also include political or philosophical essays and speeches IMO.
ETA: OK, hadn't looked over timschochet's revisions...I see this is covered.
Philosophical/ political idea (3)
I guess treatise, essays and speeches could go in there? But I think we still should have a separate cat for political documents.
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krista4
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
At this point, we're still open to this. I would add political documents and remove one wildcard. If I get two more ayes, we do it.
TidesofWar
Footballguy
No to political docuuments - too limited IMOWild Card sounds more interesting - push up bras, Off, edible panties, etc
timschochet
Footballguy
OK, category judges so far:
I'll take wildcards, as always (hardest and most fun!)
wikkidpissah is music judge. (all categories.)
BobbyLayne is paintings judge.
Yankee is political thought and TV shows.
Somebody (don't remember who) is sports records; anyone know?
All other categories are open.
I'll take wildcards, as always (hardest and most fun!)
wikkidpissah is music judge. (all categories.)
BobbyLayne is paintings judge.
Yankee is political thought and TV shows.
Somebody (don't remember who) is sports records; anyone know?
All other categories are open.
Postradamus
Footballguy
I can judge inventions.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I think that is the issue some are having...we could easily come up with 20 speeches alone. Throw in codified documents and declarations, peace treaty, political alliance, et al.
Postradamus
Footballguy
In.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Decent Comrade Thunder called shotgun in the other thread.
rodg12
Footballguy
I vote in favor.
Postradamus
Footballguy
Could we include court rulings?
timschochet
Footballguy
All right, political documents returns. Now the only question is, should I remove a slot from wildcard? I could also remove a slot from novels, giving us 4 instead of 5. Or non-fiction books. What do you guys think?
timschochet
Footballguy
Postradamus
Footballguy
definitely this
Bonzai
Footballguy
Take it off of plays.Five plays? Really?
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
So political "documents" would be - constitutions, speeches, court rulings, treaties..... and like things? I would add that, to me, I would say that to be a political "document" it must have been issued from a governmental/quasi-governmental entity or one revolting against that type of entity. There is no reason to allow a John Lennon song in this category, for instance.
Postradamus
Footballguy
agreed, also from non fiction then add one each to SONG and ALBUM totaling 4 in each.
TidesofWar
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
For the vast majority of human existence, the play has been the primary means of entertainment. Choosing the 100 greatest plays of all time should be a worth endeavor, IMO.
rodg12
Footballguy
Postradamus
Footballguy
I'm down for whatever, just throwing pennies
Frostillicus
Footballguy
I've seen this in real life. Knocked me on my ###.
timschochet
Footballguy
OK, here's what we will do- we will add political documents and remove one wildcard. However, if it appears that, much later in the draft, people are really struggling with the 4th or 5th choice in a particular category, we can always remove that last pick and add another wildcard.
timschochet
Footballguy
Um, guys, there's a problem I completely forgot about. This draft is going to take at least 3 months with 60 rounds. But in June I am going to the mountains for a week and a half (2nd half of the month, don't have the dates yet) I won't have access to a computer most of the time I'm there. I propose that once I have the dates, that we simply suspend the draft for that 10 days or so, since I'm afraid I won't be able to run it or make picks during that time.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
... my 1.01 is still available. Seriously doubt it will still be there at 1.12.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Running it without you is not an issue. How about you get a partner to take over a few picks? We're going to average 14-18 picks a day, at most 4 rounds a week. 10 days less 2 or 4 weekend days...so you're looking at 5-6 picks out of 60?I don't want to set the precendent for you; I'm sure many people have vacation plans once finals are over or school lets out. No one person is bigger than the draft.
