Only thing I like less then paying for an old RB is paying for two of them.
So for me your side convincingly though to be fair if you used startup values as a guide it's not that far off but I hate being on the side as your trade partner here.
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So for me your side convincingly though to be fair if you used startup values as a guide it's not that far off but I hate being on the side as your trade partner here.
TartanLion
Footballguy
12 team 0.5ppr 1QB
Been offered : Olave and 3.02 ‘24
For
Waddle and 4.05 ‘24
What say anybody ? I think I could juice it a little more picks wise in favour of me as it was his opening offer, but I’m not sure about it mainly because only got Waddle during the season and I own Olave in my other dynasty league
Been offered : Olave and 3.02 ‘24
For
Waddle and 4.05 ‘24
What say anybody ? I think I could juice it a little more picks wise in favour of me as it was his opening offer, but I’m not sure about it mainly because only got Waddle during the season and I own Olave in my other dynasty league
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Fair deal. It would probably depend on my roster makeup on which side I want. By that I mean, do I need a steady week in and week out guy because I have a lot of boom/bust guys or do I need a boom/bust guy that can win me a week because I already have steady performers.
All things being equal I probably take the Olave side factoring in Waddle always seems dinged.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
FFPC 1 QB
Pick 1.01
For
CMC and pick 1.05
Pick 1.01
For
CMC and pick 1.05
To me, in FFPC, the CMC and 1.05 side is more valuable at the moment. I think Harrison will be great, but guys in FFPC just love RBs so much more than WRs. Even if CMC might have just 1-2 years of elite production left, that's still pretty valuable. And the 1.05 can still be flipped once it's on the clock if someone is a believer in the rookie RB1.
For what it's worth, in FFPC startups, Harrison is the 1.06 and CMC is the 1.08. The fifth rookie being drafted in startups is Caleb Williams at the 4.06.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I'll take Richardson for two 2nds
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
Meh, push to shove I would probably take AR sid depending on roster construction. But could just as easily prefer the picks again depending on roster.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
FFPC 1qb Rookie draft
Gave 1.7, 2.3 and 2.7
Got 1.4
Already have 1.3 and 1.12
Gave 1.7, 2.3 and 2.7
Got 1.4
Already have 1.3 and 1.12
FFPC all about studs and I think the 2 x 2nds to move into a that 1.04 is worth it. Of course the guy can hit at 1.07 but I like my chances with one of the big 4
Enzo....the Baker
Footballguy
AR for a bunch of magic beans
eighsse2
Footballguy
That pair of Levi's though makes it tempting.
But seriously, I agree, this is getting the by-far-best piece in the deal, and I'll throw in a lot of stuff to make that happen any day.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Hard to identify what the other team was excited about receiving in that trade.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I might be the biggest Levis fan here, just acquired him a month or so ago. And I don’t put any faith in AR. But that upside can’t be denied. In a 12 team, 1 QB league even I’m taking AR (Maybe just to flip him)
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Easily AR side for me.
Dez
Footballguy
It is funny how people consider draft picks beyond the 1st round not worth anything yet time after time they become the next LaPorta or the next Puka or the next St Brown over and over again. While the hit rates are lower on 2nd round picks and beyond there are big time hits there as well.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
This is a fair take, however my league is a 12 team 18 man rosters which makes having those second round picks tough to make room for at times. In a deeper bench situation I can see some of the allure, however in this case I would easily take the upside that AR has even though I am not a huge believer (sold him in my league for Aiyuk to a QB needy team).
Yep, he might have been THE QB1 last year if he just stayed healthy. That concern is not going anywhere, you need to have a good secondary option, but for the pure upside this is easy.
I have two different leagues were I have picks 8 and 11. Is that fairly comparable to what you gave? Seems so to me but maybe I'm off a little.
Anyway in both of those leagues I offered every team in the top 4 those two picks to move up and I'm still sitting on picks 8 and 11 in two leagues. So for sure I like what you did, even more so really with all that other draft capital to work with.
Dez
Footballguy
18 roster spots you better have taxi quads or I would be trying to find a new league. FFPC is 20 which is low but it is high stakes and they don't want people quitting so they want to have fast ability to turn teams around
Instinctive
Footballguy
Posted a Jones trade earlier from one league...was inspired to try it where I own him too - accepted today!
10 team SF half PPR (basically start 2 QBs if at all possible)
Daniel Jones traded away
Receive 2.04 and 2025 2nd
Feeling really good that I was ridiculed at the startup draft for overdrafting QBs (I took Hurts, Stroud, B Young, J Love all relatively early and then some ugly guys like Jones later and now have turned him into a pick that's a couple rounds earlier on average (where the 14th rookie goes vs where I took him) and an extra 2nd).
10 team SF half PPR (basically start 2 QBs if at all possible)
Daniel Jones traded away
Receive 2.04 and 2025 2nd
Feeling really good that I was ridiculed at the startup draft for overdrafting QBs (I took Hurts, Stroud, B Young, J Love all relatively early and then some ugly guys like Jones later and now have turned him into a pick that's a couple rounds earlier on average (where the 14th rookie goes vs where I took him) and an extra 2nd).
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Team A gives
1.01
2.01
T. Spears
Team B gives
Ken Walker
Aiyuk
1.08
1.01
2.01
T. Spears
Team B gives
Ken Walker
Aiyuk
1.08
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Aggressive move up, I can see both ways but prefer Walker, Aiyuk, 1.08.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
I easily prefer the other side.
-OZ-
Footballguy
All in? These trades usually make me assume the team getting hill and Kelce will be out in a year. Or, best case, go into full rebuild after trying to get that last championship.
It’s fair.
Wilson and brown are in the same range, Bijan > Laporta and the 2.02. 7 >> allegeier and Otton.
Close enough.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Big boy trade.
If this was the beginning of a startup, I think I take the Wilson side here.
Value is super close though
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
16 team PPR, IDP, 1 QB
Gave
Calvin Austin
2.13
2025 2nd
Received
Terry McLaurin
Gave
Calvin Austin
2.13
2025 2nd
Received
Terry McLaurin
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
AS OZ mentioned it all depends on roster and where each team is at, good for the contender and good for the builder
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
I would say 8 and 11 is comparable for sure.
They countered original offer and asked for 1.7 & 1.12, we countered that with the 1.7, 2.3 & 2.7.
Ive made a few offers to get into top 4 and this was first successful effort.
Birdie048
Footballguy
This gave me motivation!
I own 1.09, 1.12, 2.03, 2.06 & 3.03
I offered WR Addison, TE Otton & 2.06 for his 1.04 & TE Kraft
He rejected but accepted my Plan B offer
I gave up: 1.09, 2.03 & 2.06
I got back: 1.04
1 QB TE+ with 10 starters PPR
But going SF in 2026
I see steep incline after Top 4
Boston
Footballguy
Got : Bryce Young
Gave: 4.08
10team ppr.
I mean, I couldn't say no.
Easily Young...at 4.8 you are lucky to get someone you won't cut let alone someone of substance...Young is still very early in his career and hopefully a HC that has some QB success on his resume can turn him into a legit QB...if not you have given up nothing and move on...nice little deal for you here.
Blick
Footballguy
I think he made a mistake.
jabarony
Footballguy
Yes you could have.Got : Bryce Young
Gave: 4.08
10team ppr.
I mean, I couldn't say no.
Unless this is SF, then I'd lean Young over the 4th.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Yes you could have.Got : Bryce Young
Gave: 4.08
10team ppr.
I mean, I couldn't say no.
Unless this is SF, then I'd lean Young over the 4th.
A starting QB (albeit for a terrible team) at 4.08?
Dez
Footballguy
Well it turns out both were not very good. Pierce was the value when I made the trade but as they say that means nothing now. Chicago Signed Swift and Houston signed Mixon so now both of these guys are backups at best.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Da Franchise
Footballguy
This is Tyreek/Kelce rather easily IMO.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
While you may be right, a year from now there's serious potential for this to look lopsided I'm Kincaid's favor.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Agree, got it being two years but could be 1 for sure. If I’m a real contender though as I imagine this team must be, wouldn’t hesitate to pull the trigger.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Agreed.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Yeah, I'd probably do the same, lol
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Waller retired two years ago.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
jabarony
Footballguy
Unless you have ~30+ roster spots, I assume you could just pick up Mishew, Brissett, etc. off the waiver wire and be better off than with Young. And since this is a 10 team league, that makes QB help even more likely, no?Yes you could have.Got : Bryce Young
Gave: 4.08
10team ppr.
I mean, I couldn't say no.
Unless this is SF, then I'd lean Young over the 4th.
A starting QB (albeit for a terrible team) at 4.08?
