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Does Cardale Jones belong in the first round?
http://withthefirstpick.com/2015/10/14/does-cardale-jones-belong-in-the-first-round/
http://withthefirstpick.com/2015/10/14/does-cardale-jones-belong-in-the-first-round/
Well then lucky for these guys that the NFL is moving toward more scheme specific qbs instead of putting everything on their qb. Quick passes and 3-step drops are the future. At least from what I'm seeing.To be honest I haven't seen a true nfl qb prospect in college this season.
I am in the complete opposite of this. I think the NFL is putting more on the qb to win these days. Less rushing and the passing yards are going through the roof.Well then lucky for these guys that the NFL is moving toward more scheme specific qbs instead of putting everything on their qb. Quick passes and 3-step drops are the future. At least from what I'm seeing.To be honest I haven't seen a true nfl qb prospect in college this season.
You sure? Giving him every opportunity to capture the starting job and prove himself as not only what he was last year but also give teams a full season of film to look at to boost your stock. There was no promise he would have gone as high as people, including myself, have suggested. To say Urban did him wrong is not the right call though. If Urban would have done him wrong he would have played the better fit and QB at the beginning of the season not 7 games in.Would have probably been at the latest, a second-round pick.
Urban did him so wrong. Should have been pushing him out the door.
From what I read, cardale was leaving after last year and urban talked him out of it. He also allegedly did that stuff at UF.You sure? Giving him every opportunity to capture the starting job and prove himself as not only what he was last year but also give teams a full season of film to look at to boost your stock. There was no promise he would have gone as high as people, including myself, have suggested. To say Urban did him wrong is not the right call though. If Urban would have done him wrong he would have played the better fit and QB at the beginning of the season not 7 games in.Would have probably been at the latest, a second-round pick.
Urban did him so wrong. Should have been pushing him out the door.
Paxton Lynch is the college QB who stands out to me - great size (6-7,245), high completion percentage (71.6%) and YPA (9.7), doesn't throw a lot of picks (TD:INT ratio of 4 the past two years and has 17 TD to 1 INT this year), and can run a bit (13 rushing TD's last year).What about that kid from Memphis.
I will take that bet. Hackenberg is horrible. His only plus is that he has a strong arm. But he is as immobile as I have ever seen a college qb, has no touch on the ball, makes some bizarre decisions and is really inaccurate.This is why Hackenberg will still get drafted relatively high. There aren't many guys like him that have the look of a pro-style QB, despite how poorly he's played this year. And as a PSU fan it's hard to say if Hack or the oline is really to blame.
He looked really good last night. Granted that is the only time I have seen him but he was big, fast with a shoulder cannonPaxton Lynch is the college QB who stands out to me - great size, high completion percentage, doesn't throw a lot of picks (TD:INT ratio of 4), and can run a bit.What about that kid from Memphis.
Should have his own thread.
Ok then...has a QB who lost the starting job ever transferred and become a success in the NFL?He doesn't have to go into the draft. Speculation is that he'll transfer to Houston to reunite with Herman.
I mean...how many times has such a scenario actually happened?Ok then...has a QB who lost the starting job ever transferred and become a success in the NFL?He doesn't have to go into the draft. Speculation is that he'll transfer to Houston to reunite with Herman.
How long did you watch Barrett for, 12 minutes? He's a far better QB than Cardale. He's a much better runner, he executes the read-option far better, he's a far more accurate passer (due to much better footwork and throwing mechanics), and he makes much better throwing decisions than Jones. About the only thing Jones does better is be a large human being.Jones must be a serious immature mental midget. After watching Barrett, it's clear why Urban so badly wanted Jones to win the job.
Matt Cassell?What college QB has ended their college career as a backup and done anything in the NFL?
Russell Wilson?I mean...how many times has such a scenario actually happened?Ok then...has a QB who lost the starting job ever transferred and become a success in the NFL?He doesn't have to go into the draft. Speculation is that he'll transfer to Houston to reunite with Herman.
A.J. Feeley started part of one season for Oregon before being replaced by Joey Harrington. He ended up getting drafted in the 5th round and stuck around for an 11-year NFL career (which was longer than the combined careers of the two guys who had started ahead of him -- Harrington and Akili Smith).Matt Cassell?What college QB has ended their college career as a backup and done anything in the NFL?
Everyone looks significantly worse without Herman. Coaching matters.Jones must be a serious immature mental midget. After watching Barrett, it's clear why Urban so badly wanted Jones to win the job.
Troy AikmanOk then...has a QB who lost the starting job ever transferred and become a success in the NFL?He doesn't have to go into the draft. Speculation is that he'll transfer to Houston to reunite with Herman.
Joe FlaccoOk then...has a QB who lost the starting job ever transferred and become a success in the NFL?He doesn't have to go into the draft. Speculation is that he'll transfer to Houston to reunite with Herman.
He transferred, but not because he lost his job.Russell Wilson?I mean...how many times has such a scenario actually happened?Ok then...has a QB who lost the starting job ever transferred and become a success in the NFL?He doesn't have to go into the draft. Speculation is that he'll transfer to Houston to reunite with Herman.
Cardale Jones - QB - Buckeyes
Ohio State redshirt junior QB Cardale Jones tweeted Saturday night that his earlier "last time in The Show" tweet was being misinterpreted, warning fans not to "infer" his future plans.
"Last time walking down them steps and into The Shoe, wish the results were different tho," Jones tweeted shortly after the game. Many assumed this was a declaration for the draft. As we mentioned at the time, though, it's entirely possible that Jones intends to transfer as a graduate to another program next season. Seeing as though he's a raw and a backup on his own team, we'd encourage him to do so. The 6-foot-5, 250-pounder has tremendous raw tools but could be a mere Day 3 developmental play if he opts into the 2016 draft. As for OSU, we already know Ezekiel Elliott will join him in leaving early along with (presumably) Joey Bosa. The Buckeyes also might lose underclassmen Michael Thomas (WR), Darron Lee (OLB), Eli Apple (CB) and Vonn Bell (SS).
Source: CBS Sports
Nov 22 - 1:12 PM
The new coach told Wilson that Mike Glennon was a better fit for the new offense. That's pretty much the same as losing his job.He transferred, but not because he lost his job.Russell Wilson?I mean...how many times has such a scenario actually happened?Ok then...has a QB who lost the starting job ever transferred and become a success in the NFL?He doesn't have to go into the draft. Speculation is that he'll transfer to Houston to reunite with Herman.
He was told he wouldn't be competing for the job because he didn't fit the system. Even worse.He transferred, but not because he lost his job.Russell Wilson?I mean...how many times has such a scenario actually happened?Ok then...has a QB who lost the starting job ever transferred and become a success in the NFL?He doesn't have to go into the draft. Speculation is that he'll transfer to Houston to reunite with Herman.
Cardale Jones - QB - Buckeyes
Ohio State redshirt junior QB Cardale Jones' situation is "fluid," according to Jason Cole, and the passer is still considering a graduate transfer.
On Dec. 30, Jones told reporters his loyalty was to Ohio State and he would not play for another program, adding he intends to enter the 2016 NFL Draft. Cole, however, has heard that Jones is only appeasing people at Ohio State, and is still mulling a transfer in the hopes of improving his stock. Jones has until Jan. 18 to make a decision. He is already 23 years old.
Source: Jason Cole on Twitter
Jan 1 - 11:01 AM
Obvious mouth watering physical potential but rumors are that Cardale carries off-field baggage related to a troubled upbringing and the fact he's got a ton of hangers-on who want him to cash-in so they can freeload. He's young and it appears he's getting advice from people with agendas.DallasDMac said:Given how he looked this season, he has to be considered a huge project type QB at this point, no?
Ohio State redshirt junior Cardale Jones denied a report that said the QB is still considering a graduate transfer to play for another school in 2016.
The report came from B/R's Jason Cole and it stated that Cardale's plans were "fluid," and that the quarterback is only appeasing people at Ohio State by not mentioning his uncertainty. After the school's bowl game, Cardale reiterated that he will be entering the draft and has already begun preparation.
Source: Dane Brugler on Twitter
Pulled a hammy running a slow 40. Sitting out rest of drills. Bet Browns take him #1 now.Jon Ledyard @LedyardNFLDraft 31m31 minutes ago
Urban saying Cardale is gonna move up today based on what he's heard from NFL teams. That would not be surprising to me at all
On Sportscenter, ESPN's Todd McShay said that he believes that Ohio State QB Cardale Jones will be a Day 3 selection in the draft.
It's been a slow, slow dive for Jones since he burned down the universe in Ohio State's final three contests of 2014. Since leading the team to a title, the 6-foot-5, 250-pounder earned--and then lost--the starting gig for the 2015 season after leading the Buckeyes offense to inconsistent results. While he could have opted to transfer at the close of the campaign, he decided instead to just leap for the draft. On Saturday at the NFL Scouting Combine, he pulled up lame with a hamstring injury during his second attempt at the 40-yard dash (he logged 4.83 seconds during his first run). As McShay notes, Jones now has just two months to not only heal up his hammy, but also prove to NFL teams that he has the chops to deliver. Unfortunately, Ohio State's Pro Day is scheduled for March 11, meaning it's possible that Jones will not even be healthy for that.
Feb 27 - 8:00 PM