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Michael Bush to be traded? (1 Viewer)
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Unwrittenlaw
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Green Bay/New Orleans
QuizGuy66
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Hrm, own Bush in one league and McFadden in the other. This would be a best case scenario for sureRB Michael Bush, who is a free agent at the end of the season and will make only $550,000 in 2010, is a prime trade candidate.Roto commentary but facts are facts. This would be great for Bush and Mcfadden owners. Where would/could he go?
-QGROBOPUNTER
Footballguy
keep us postedHrm, own Bush in one league and McFadden in the other. This would be a best case scenario for sureRB Michael Bush, who is a free agent at the end of the season and will make only $550,000 in 2010, is a prime trade candidate.Roto commentary but facts are facts. This would be great for Bush and Mcfadden owners. Where would/could he go?
drfeelgood
Footballguy
It was said that the whole Raiders team was on the block, not just Bush.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Nice fantasy, but Mcfadden's hamstring likely prevents this from happening
Ted Lange as your Bartender
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4th year - drafted in 2007. On PUP/IR rookie year
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They said every player is avalaible BUT with Mcfadden injured and Bennet also injured the one player they cant trade is Bush. After seeing Revis reinure the hamstring after 2 weeks you cant assume that McFadden will be back or not re-injure the hammy . Hamstring injuries are notorius for sticking around . Look at Revis.
"Roto commentary but facts are facts. "
RotoworldRotowireRotojunkieRototimesRotoexpertsRotodirectoryRotoassistRotomaniaRotohogJust off the top of my head...Just paste the link is all I'm saying.
SaintsInDome2006
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Please, please, please, please.
QuizGuy66
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Will dokeep us postedHrm, own Bush in one league and McFadden in the other. This would be a best case scenario for sureRB Michael Bush, who is a free agent at the end of the season and will make only $550,000 in 2010, is a prime trade candidate.Roto commentary but facts are facts. This would be great for Bush and Mcfadden owners. Where would/could he go?
-QG
Actually any update on this? Raider fans are usually pretty good at reading Al's mind (even if it's a horror story) - any talk of this in the Bay Area?-QG
Enraged Nerfball
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Bucs have more than enough cap room and need someone that can run the ball for more than 2 ypc. Why not?
LawFitz
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My gut tells me that Al will not trade MB, even if he's sure to leave at the end of the season. He's too stubborn to give up on this season even if we are 2-4 and headed no where. Plus there's the NE draft pick factor at play. Last thing Al wants is for the Raiders to tank the season and NE to get a top five pick.Plus if MB does leave at the end of the year as a FA, the Raiders will likely get a third round compensatory pick, so a team would have to offer at least a 2nd rounder. When you factor in Al's stubborn attitude and the NE draft pick factor, it'll probably take a 1st, making a trade highly unlikely.Will dokeep us postedHrm, own Bush in one league and McFadden in the other. This would be a best case scenario for sureRB Michael Bush, who is a free agent at the end of the season and will make only $550,000 in 2010, is a prime trade candidate.Roto commentary but facts are facts. This would be great for Bush and Mcfadden owners. Where would/could he go?
Actually any update on this? Raider fans are usually pretty good at reading Al's mind (even if it's a horror story) - any talk of this in the Bay Area?-QG
The Kansas Comet
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Technically, all teams have more than enough cap room since this is an uncapped year.
Tigerbot Hesh
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QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Good point about the compensatory pick deal - I gather that didn't go away with the uncapped year/CBA situation? The compensatory picks are one of the few areas with the CBA where the Bengals seem to actually game the system properly so I can totally see that aspect. That is assuming they couldn't get a 3rd-rounder for him of courseMy gut tells me that Al will not trade MB, even if he's sure to leave at the end of the season. He's too stubborn to give up on this season even if we are 2-4 and headed no where. Plus there's the NE draft pick factor at play. Last thing Al wants is for the Raiders to tank the season and NE to get a top five pick.Plus if MB does leave at the end of the year as a FA, the Raiders will likely get a third round compensatory pick, so a team would have to offer at least a 2nd rounder. When you factor in Al's stubborn attitude and the NE draft pick factor, it'll probably take a 1st, making a trade highly unlikely.Will dokeep us postedHrm, own Bush in one league and McFadden in the other. This would be a best case scenario for sureRB Michael Bush, who is a free agent at the end of the season and will make only $550,000 in 2010, is a prime trade candidate.Roto commentary but facts are facts. This would be great for Bush and Mcfadden owners. Where would/could he go?
Actually any update on this? Raider fans are usually pretty good at reading Al's mind (even if it's a horror story) - any talk of this in the Bay Area?-QG
-QG
massraider
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/threadSame story every year. Fantasy players that overrate Bush imagine a trade makes sense, and somehow speculate that the Raiders are discussing it.
That would make this his 3rd year then as far as the NFL is concerned.
Dazed and Confused
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The Rams could use him behind SJax. That would be a nice combo.
az_prof
Footballguy
They have tried to trade him before but couldn't get what they wanted. However, this year they need him more than ever. Mcfadden is hurt once again and there is no depth behind him. Why would they trade him now for a fourth round pick?
massraider
Footballguy
No it wouldn't. It was an accrued season.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
This is insane. McFadden can't stay healthy, and Bush is, what, a second round pick? Oakland likes Bush. They aren't trading him.
4th round pick. He was injured (broken leg) coming out of college.
N Zone
Footballguy
Michael Bush was a fourth round pick.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Yes, my bad. Still, Oakland at 2-4 still has an outside shot at the division. I don't see any way they trade Bush.
skinsrule05
Footballguy
I agree with this. McFadden isn't even back yet so they would be foolish to give up that depth. Once DMC is back they are going to want the insurance of having Bush on the bench and to use to run out games. Who would fill that role if Bush was gone?
jdoggydogg
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Furthermore, I think the Raiders would be happy using McFadden and Bush as a 1-2 punch. Trading Bush would say to me that Oakland has given up on the season. And have we ever known Al Davis to be a realist about Oakland's chances?
Pittsburgh P
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"Plus if MB does leave at the end of the year as a FA, the Raiders will likely get a third round compensatory pick, so a team would have to offer at least a 2nd rounder. When you factor in Al's stubborn attitude and the NE draft pick factor, it'll probably take a 1st, making a trade highly unlikely."
While there is no guarantee that the compensatory picks system will be re-implemented, they have previously been based heavily on contract value.
According to AdamJT13, when predicting the 2010 comp picks:
"Last year, regardless of playing time or postseason honors, the third-round comp players had signed for at least $6.5 million per season, the fourth-round comp players had signed for $4.8 million to $6 million, all but one of the fifth-round comp players had signed for $4 million to $5 million, the sixth-round comp players had signed for $2.7 million to $3.9 million, and the seventh-round comp players had signed for less than $2.65 million per season."
http://adamjt13.blogspot.com/2010/03/proje...-nfl-draft.html
If MB signs elsewhere as a free agent in the offseason, will the (hypothetical) compensatory draft pick in 2012 be higher than what the Raiders could receive in trade for the 2011 draft? Then compare both of those picks to the value of his performance with the Raiders for the remainder of the 2010 season?
Once again, though, this would be the logical way to evaluate the scenario.
Not the Al Davis way.
While there is no guarantee that the compensatory picks system will be re-implemented, they have previously been based heavily on contract value.
According to AdamJT13, when predicting the 2010 comp picks:
"Last year, regardless of playing time or postseason honors, the third-round comp players had signed for at least $6.5 million per season, the fourth-round comp players had signed for $4.8 million to $6 million, all but one of the fifth-round comp players had signed for $4 million to $5 million, the sixth-round comp players had signed for $2.7 million to $3.9 million, and the seventh-round comp players had signed for less than $2.65 million per season."
http://adamjt13.blogspot.com/2010/03/proje...-nfl-draft.html
If MB signs elsewhere as a free agent in the offseason, will the (hypothetical) compensatory draft pick in 2012 be higher than what the Raiders could receive in trade for the 2011 draft? Then compare both of those picks to the value of his performance with the Raiders for the remainder of the 2010 season?
Once again, though, this would be the logical way to evaluate the scenario.
Not the Al Davis way.
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