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Keep monitoring. Kind of funny in that his dad works for ESPN.
I don't know exactly how it works but I'm pretty positive he wouldn't be considered a rookie because he has already declared for the NFL draft before and he was never signed that year (which would have been his rookie year). I'm pretty sure the only reason he's available for pickup in leagues is because he did declare for the draft and he did try out for some teams in the past.Would he be considered a rookie if he was signed by an NFL team? As far as I know he never signed with a NFL team.
Anybody know what constitutes a NFL rookie?
I assumed rookie meant first year player in the NFL. Baseball has players come up after a few years in the minors and are rookies. Why would the NFL be different? Why does it matter?I don't know exactly how it works but I'm pretty positive he wouldn't be considered a rookie because he has already declared for the NFL draft before and he was never signed that year (which would have been his rookie year). I'm pretty sure the only reason he's available for pickup in leagues is because he did declare for the draft and he did try out for some teams in the past.Would he be considered a rookie if he was signed by an NFL team? As far as I know he never signed with a NFL team.
Anybody know what constitutes a NFL rookie?
He could be. I may be wrong. I know for sure he wouldn't be treated like a rookie when it comes to the draft, etc. He can start working out with teams in a little over a week, but can't sign until February. But you're right, he might still technically be considered a rookie.I assumed rookie meant first year player in the NFL. Baseball has players come up after a few years in the minors and are rookies. Why would the NFL be different? Why does it matter?I don't know exactly how it works but I'm pretty positive he wouldn't be considered a rookie because he has already declared for the NFL draft before and he was never signed that year (which would have been his rookie year). I'm pretty sure the only reason he's available for pickup in leagues is because he did declare for the draft and he did try out for some teams in the past.Would he be considered a rookie if he was signed by an NFL team? As far as I know he never signed with a NFL team.
Anybody know what constitutes a NFL rookie?
Took one for the team.Thanks Saber for making sure this topic stayed off topic until my waivers ran! I managed to land him this morning though so we can go back to talking about Duron Carter now.
I'm sorry for your loss.AAAARRRRGGGH! My commish just sent out a league wide email basically announcing this guys eligibility on the waiver wire! DAMN!
I love this commish since he does an amazing job...but every time I'm trying to sneak a guy through, he puts on a parade for the guy! LOL! I have minimal FA $$s so I was hoping I could sneak him onto my roster. Now I'll certainly be out bid by some guy from a bottom feeder team who has no clue and is just bidding because he has money and the player is making a stir.
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You just posted a how-to for your leaguemates re: Duron.Can we stop again please? My waivers dont run until 4pm EST. 'Preciate it.
He didn't go to the actual combine, but to a regional combine:After watching the brief highlights that were posted in here, a good comp for him looks like it could be Justin Hunter. Nice speed, but he looks pretty weak though, like he's never lifted weights a day in his life.
If his head really is on straight, his NFL caliber training will begin on Dec 1 and he will have many months to work on his issues. On his jump balls, it doesn't look like he does a great job high pointing the ball. He makes nice catches over those CB's, but I don't think he'd be making those catches against NFL CB's unless he high points the ball better.
Also, what is his actual height? In the videos he doesn't look 6'5 to me. He's not THAT much taller than everybody else. On RW, it says he's 6'4. On his draft scout page he's 6'3. There's a pretty big difference between 6'3 and 6'5.
He was invited to the NFL's Super Regional combine but was sick:Duron Carter's regional combine numbers: 6'3" 201, 4.54 electronic 40, 36" vert,10'9" broad. Cris Carter's son invited to Super regional.
The league scouted between 2,600 to 2,700 players before deciding on the 209 players to invite to Arlington _ Ohio State’s Duron Carter, the son of Hall of Fame receiver Cris Carter, became ill and was unable to attend.
He'll be playing in the CFL East finals this weekend if you have access to any of the stations that will be playing it in the USGot him in MFL today...
From Canada... watch no CFL... hear his name a lot in highlights...
what should I expect?
I live in Toronto... I know about the CFL, but I never watch it. literally never sat thru a game.He'll be playing in the CFL East finals this weekend if you have access to any of the stations that will be playing it in the USGot him in MFL today...
From Canada... watch no CFL... hear his name a lot in highlights...
what should I expect?
http://cfl.ca/page/2014-us-broadcast-schedule
It's a very, very different type of game of football though...
He doesn't look rail-thin to me.6'3 201 is rail thin. 4.54 is pretty slow too. I'll pass.
Easy to look fast in the CFL.identikit said:He doesn't look rail-thin to me.6'3 201 is rail thin. 4.54 is pretty slow too. I'll pass.
Or slow on the field.
OKEasy to look fast in the CFL.identikit said:He doesn't look rail-thin to me.6'3 201 is rail thin. 4.54 is pretty slow too. I'll pass.
Or slow on the field.
They do get a running start at the line.OKEasy to look fast in the CFL.identikit said:He doesn't look rail-thin to me.6'3 201 is rail thin. 4.54 is pretty slow too. I'll pass.
Or slow on the field.
I'd probably hold. No one will give you anything significant, nor should they. Better to just hold the lotto ticket.Got him in a few leagues. Already have offers coming in. What kind of pick would you take for him? anything?
Yeah, I know.They do get a running start at the line.OKEasy to look fast in the CFL.identikit said:He doesn't look rail-thin to me.6'3 201 is rail thin. 4.54 is pretty slow too. I'll pass.
Or slow on the field.
either a raw prospect you like or a 3rd round pick, maybe.Got him in a few leagues. Already have offers coming in. What kind of pick would you take for him? anything?
The CBA defines a rookie as a person who has never before signed a player contract with an NFL club.My guess is that the tryout contracts he had in 2013 were enough to make last season his rookie year.Would he be considered a rookie if he was signed by an NFL team? As far as I know he never signed with a NFL team.
Anybody know what constitutes a NFL rookie?
Maybe not, but a guy with a forward moving start vs a another guy who has to dead start from a backwards position? I'd have to think that's an advantage for the guy moving forward at the snap of the ball.Soulfly3 said:I remember watching a scientific study that showed that a "moving start" wasnt necessarily faster than a "dead start"... or at least the difference was negligible.
So not a big deal
Source please. This is getting to be a big issue in a couple of leagues for me, whether or not he's actually a Rookie.The CBA defines a rookie as a person who has never before signed a player contract with an NFL club.My guess is that the tryout contracts he had in 2013 were enough to make last season his rookie year.Would he be considered a rookie if he was signed by an NFL team? As far as I know he never signed with a NFL team.
Anybody know what constitutes a NFL rookie?
Article 1, page 3 of the CBA: https://www.nflplayers.com/about-us/cba-download/Source please. This is getting to be a big issue in a couple of leagues for me, whether or not he's actually a Rookie.The CBA defines a rookie as a person who has never before signed a player contract with an NFL club.My guess is that the tryout contracts he had in 2013 were enough to make last season his rookie year.Would he be considered a rookie if he was signed by an NFL team? As far as I know he never signed with a NFL team.
Anybody know what constitutes a NFL rookie?
Not sure how that's scientifically possible. That's like saying a car will have the same time going 0-60 as it would 10-60.Soulfly3 said:I remember watching a scientific study that showed that a "moving start" wasnt necessarily faster than a "dead start"... or at least the difference was negligible.
So not a big deal
He's not a FA until 12-1So is this guy going to sign with anyone? Worth a hold in a dynasty league I assume??
He can't work out for teams until early December, and can't sign a futures contract until February.So is this guy going to sign with anyone? Worth a hold in a dynasty league I assume??
Overrated?He didn't do much in the playoff game. His best play may have been drawing a pass interference call. His coach challenged the play and won.
Avoiding injury because his chance in the NFL looms?Overrated?He didn't do much in the playoff game. His best play may have been drawing a pass interference call. His coach challenged the play and won.
Good point, wasn't sure, didn't get to watch him much. For those who have seen him, is he the real deal?Avoiding injury because his chance in the NFL looms?Overrated?He didn't do much in the playoff game. His best play may have been drawing a pass interference call. His coach challenged the play and won.
He's a dart throw. Looks kind of like a faster Marques Colston IMO. Rangy and long strides. The key for him will be work ethic and landing spot. If a team with a good QB signs him, I'm in. But I don't expect that he's a superstar. Potentially a good WR2 that can be had VERY cheap.Good point, wasn't sure, didn't get to watch him much. For those who have seen him, is he the real deal?Avoiding injury because his chance in the NFL looms?Overrated?He didn't do much in the playoff game. His best play may have been drawing a pass interference call. His coach challenged the play and won.
It's only one game that I saw but I didn't see anything great from Carter. Maybe he can latch on as a backup in the NFL. The more impressive Montreal receiver was S.J. Green. He showed good hands and an ability to get separation. I did not see the latter from Carter.He's a dart throw. Looks kind of like a faster Marques Colston IMO. Rangy and long strides. The key for him will be work ethic and landing spot. If a team with a good QB signs him, I'm in. But I don't expect that he's a superstar. Potentially a good WR2 that can be had VERY cheap.Good point, wasn't sure, didn't get to watch him much. For those who have seen him, is he the real deal?Avoiding injury because his chance in the NFL looms?Overrated?He didn't do much in the playoff game. His best play may have been drawing a pass interference call. His coach challenged the play and won.
How much of the hype (what there is anyway) is simply his name?It's only one game that I saw but I didn't see anything great from Carter. Maybe he can latch on as a backup in the NFL. The more impressive Montreal receiver was S.J. Green. He showed good hands and an ability to get separation. I did not see the latter from Carter. Green was in Carter's position five years ago. Green signed a futures contract with the Jets in January 2010 and got cut in the spring.He's a dart throw. Looks kind of like a faster Marques Colston IMO. Rangy and long strides. The key for him will be work ethic and landing spot. If a team with a good QB signs him, I'm in. But I don't expect that he's a superstar. Potentially a good WR2 that can be had VERY cheap.Good point, wasn't sure, didn't get to watch him much. For those who have seen him, is he the real deal?Avoiding injury because his chance in the NFL looms?Overrated?He didn't do much in the playoff game. His best play may have been drawing a pass interference call. His coach challenged the play and won.
90%How much of the hype (what there is anyway) is simply his name?It's only one game that I saw but I didn't see anything great from Carter. Maybe he can latch on as a backup in the NFL. The more impressive Montreal receiver was S.J. Green. He showed good hands and an ability to get separation. I did not see the latter from Carter.Green was in Carter's position five years ago. Green signed a futures contract with the Jets in January 2010 and got cut in the spring.He's a dart throw. Looks kind of like a faster Marques Colston IMO. Rangy and long strides. The key for him will be work ethic and landing spot. If a team with a good QB signs him, I'm in. But I don't expect that he's a superstar. Potentially a good WR2 that can be had VERY cheap.Good point, wasn't sure, didn't get to watch him much. For those who have seen him, is he the real deal?Avoiding injury because his chance in the NFL looms?Overrated?He didn't do much in the playoff game. His best play may have been drawing a pass interference call. His coach challenged the play and won.
Most of it. People wonder if he has the ability that his dad had since they have the same genes. They both hard rocky starts to their career due to off field issues. The hope is that Duron is getting on track now and maybe he has the chance to be great. The chances are definitely slim though.How much of the hype (what there is anyway) is simply his name?It's only one game that I saw but I didn't see anything great from Carter. Maybe he can latch on as a backup in the NFL. The more impressive Montreal receiver was S.J. Green. He showed good hands and an ability to get separation. I did not see the latter from Carter.Green was in Carter's position five years ago. Green signed a futures contract with the Jets in January 2010 and got cut in the spring.He's a dart throw. Looks kind of like a faster Marques Colston IMO. Rangy and long strides. The key for him will be work ethic and landing spot. If a team with a good QB signs him, I'm in. But I don't expect that he's a superstar. Potentially a good WR2 that can be had VERY cheap.Good point, wasn't sure, didn't get to watch him much. For those who have seen him, is he the real deal?Avoiding injury because his chance in the NFL looms?Overrated?He didn't do much in the playoff game. His best play may have been drawing a pass interference call. His coach challenged the play and won.
Even if he signs with the Colts, I don't think he's immediately better than Hilton or Moncrief.If the Colts sign him, he's a screaming buy. If the Jets sign him, you can act like he doesn't exist.
No but he gives them an upgrade even if he's the #3. Nicks will be gone. Wayne will be gone.Even if he signs with the Colts, I don't think he's immediately better than Hilton or Moncrief.If the Colts sign him, he's a screaming buy. If the Jets sign him, you can act like he doesn't exist.