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***Chicago Bears Thread*** A dynasty begins... (9 Viewers)
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Max Power
Footballguy
Its been a rough month. Listened to a couple of the Bears podcasts last night and I don't think I've ever felt the fan base so angry, disappointed and frustrated with this franchise as they are right now. 2023 was supposed to be a step forward and the reality is that it looks like this franchise took two giant steps backwards this year.
Flus might be the worst HC in the NFL. Faith in him is gone and its questionable if he even knows what he is doing. He's a defensive coach with the worst D in the league. Bears have 1 sack after 3 games and finally got their first takeaway this week when KC put in Blaine Gabbert. They made Jordan Love and Baker Mayfield look like all-pros.
Fields is done and the Offense can't do anything right. Teams get pressure only bringing 4. They take away Fields running game and he can't beat a team passing. The whole NFL knows this.
Poles constructed a poor roster. His talent evaluation is looking pretty bad now. Spent money on FAs with zero impact on the games.
Its September and people are already starting to think about the draft which is freaking sad. Even more depressing that we know this franchise can't develop a young QB, so we're just going to ruin the #1 pick and be back in this same boat in 2028.
Ownership is one of the worst in the league. They are cheap and ok with losing.
Top it all off with the franchise making news off the field as well with its incompetence.
Flus might be the worst HC in the NFL. Faith in him is gone and its questionable if he even knows what he is doing. He's a defensive coach with the worst D in the league. Bears have 1 sack after 3 games and finally got their first takeaway this week when KC put in Blaine Gabbert. They made Jordan Love and Baker Mayfield look like all-pros.
Fields is done and the Offense can't do anything right. Teams get pressure only bringing 4. They take away Fields running game and he can't beat a team passing. The whole NFL knows this.
Poles constructed a poor roster. His talent evaluation is looking pretty bad now. Spent money on FAs with zero impact on the games.
Its September and people are already starting to think about the draft which is freaking sad. Even more depressing that we know this franchise can't develop a young QB, so we're just going to ruin the #1 pick and be back in this same boat in 2028.
Ownership is one of the worst in the league. They are cheap and ok with losing.
Top it all off with the franchise making news off the field as well with its incompetence.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
This was actually last week, I had missed all this Fields/Bears Coaches and front office stuff...I love what Greeny does on Get Up about half way thru this video
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And everything they expected ended up happening as the bears got rolled badly
"Dumpster Fire" is the term used in the link, hard to argue right now
Greeny GOES OFF on the Bears 🔥 RUINING Justin Fields! COMPLETE ORGANIZATIONAL INCOMPETENCE! | Get Up
Greeny GOES OFF on the Bears 🔥 RUINING Justin Fields! COMPLETE ORGANIZATIONAL INCOMPETENCE! | Get UpMike Greenberg goes off on the Chicago Bears, saying the...
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And everything they expected ended up happening as the bears got rolled badly
"Dumpster Fire" is the term used in the link, hard to argue right now
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
I would probably soil myself if this happened.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Yeaaaaaah, i get a feeling that FG decision came from somewhere other than the sideline.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Eberfup needs to be fired!
flapgreen
Footballguy
Poles shouldn't be picking ****.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
To be fair, even he couldn't mess that up.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
He should never make an important decision again. What an absolute failure of a hire.
Max Power
Footballguy
After the final INT, I cursed up a storm and the wife asked why I was so upset after before the game telling her that I wouldn't be upset if we lost. It's just the way that they lost this game. Its hard to lose a game how the Bears just did and yet sure enough they pulled it off. So frustrating because I actually think the Bears were the better team on the field today.
Max Power
Footballguy
Caleb should be a lock for #1and he's an upgrade of JF all day. As much as I'd love Harrison and he probably is the second best player in the draft, the Bears need to go OL or DL with their other first rd pick. Both lines are trash.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
You all are set to pick No 1 again
Why stop the momentum?
KingPrawn
Footballguy
The shark move is to pick Caleb at 1 and trade down to a QB needy team with the 2 pick.
I'm not sure why people are down on Poles. He passed on QB this year and now has them in position to draft generational talent at QB. The guys is a brilliant GM
Max Power
Footballguy
I'm not sure its a skill to field the worst football team in NFL two years in a row.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Unfortunately, I agree with this. If you can drop two or three spots, who knows, you still might get Harrison or the best DE or OT.
The Tick
Footballguy
Sad thing is they can probably get WORSE firing him, I don't think there is anyone else on the staff REMOTELY qualified to take over
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Come on now. Not many GMs can be this consistent at being bad. He's even got the players and coaches fully on board with his plan
Max Power
Footballguy
Probably involves ruining Caleb Williams as well so he can draft Arch Manning in 4 years. #masterclass
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Flus needs fired. He and Getsy shouldn't have even been allowed on the plane back to Chicago. Box up their crap and set it on the curb. Don't even let them in the building again. They played scared offense and defense the entire 4th quarter, took Fields out of his rhythm, and lost the game with yet another baffling offensive playcall on 4th down. That entire sequence was the epitomy of the Eberflus era. But we're building towards something special...SMH.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
If they're picking first again Poles and Eberflus need to be gone and they need to give an entire new regime Williams and the second top five pick. DO NOT let two losers screw up another off-season.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Quickest way for an NFL franchise to rebuild? Get the first two picks in the draft and select Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr. Gonna take 14 more weeks of ****ty football from them and the Panthers, but possible. Done.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
As the new Bears GM, I would be offering the Bears 2024 2nd round pick and Claypool for Brian Burns. Not sure in Carolina would accept but I would offer it.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
What about defense?
Statorama
gangster
I'd love to know who made the call on 4th down. They mentioned on sports radio (670 the Score) that even early on in situations like that Harbaugh would talk with Lamar Jackson and ask what play he wanted to run, what did he feel comfortable with. I don't know if Flus/Gets/Fields have that kind of relationship yet, but it would be nice to know who owns that decision. While I personally would have kicked the FG, I get why they didn't. But man that play call sucked.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Pass. Rest of the draft defense. Ha ha
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
excellent thread title! i'm going to suggest we change ours to the same. just wanted to give y'all credit. 
Statorama
gangster
I'd be surprised if they got a conditional 7th rounder in 2038.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
The decision to go for it was irrelevant, IMO. The playcall, like many other in that game and every other game this year, though, was inexcusable. Running the ball into our weakness (C and G) from the shotgun on that particular play was just not smart. They had been using motion and moving fields out of the pocket all game and he performed! They'd been using play action successfully all game. With all that, every single person in the stadium knew that we were running the ball up the middle on 4th down.
Max Power
Footballguy
The Claypool situation just highlights how inept the leadership is here.
He halfasses on the field and we don't bench him. Makes a comment about the coaches not using him right and gets told to stay home.
When the media attempts to clarify if the Bears are forcing Claypool to stay away or its his decision, they literally flip flop on the story twice now.
This is basic stuff we can't get right.
He halfasses on the field and we don't bench him. Makes a comment about the coaches not using him right and gets told to stay home.
When the media attempts to clarify if the Bears are forcing Claypool to stay away or its his decision, they literally flip flop on the story twice now.
This is basic stuff we can't get right.
Max Power
Footballguy
I hope the Bears ownership sees what a joke they are right now.
There are national media outlets promoting the idea of Caleb Williams going back to school or demanding a trade if the Bears get the #1 pick.
Literally calling the organization a "dumpster fire".
Time to reflect is now.
There are national media outlets promoting the idea of Caleb Williams going back to school or demanding a trade if the Bears get the #1 pick.
Literally calling the organization a "dumpster fire".
Time to reflect is now.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
What the actual **** did Luke Getsy do during the offseason and training camp? It is inexcusable to finally realize the potential of your QB 4 games into the season. And despite Fields' play during the last two games, the play calling has still been garbage. Hear me out, I think I have an idea of what's going on. Watch the first drive of the game. Always scripted and always reasonably successful. Now watch as Getsy comes online to live play calling. It's repetitive, non-intuitive and often doesn't even fit the situation. I'm convinced that he is not at all comfortable in real time play calling. And that is the absolute LAST place you want to have someone who's anxious or not confident.
BobbyLayne
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Max Power
Footballguy
No OL in the NFL can block that
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
Acquiring Montez Sweat from Washington for a 2nd. By far our biggest need. Good move.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Great move there!
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
The Holy Grail - Castle Invasion
A funny clip from Monty Python's 'The Holy Grail', check it out.
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mike9289
Footballguy
Guy is a free agent in March. A 2nd and have to pay him a fortune, I don't see that as a good move. Maybe I'm missing something?
Agree.
If they don't sign him, they get a comp 3rd probably, but big difference for a rebuilding team between and early 2nd and a comp 3rd. Unless they had a discussion on a contract extension before the deal, it reminds me of the Claypool trade, although Sweat is actually good.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
I didn't know that. You're right, giving a high pick like that doesn't seem right.
Balco
Footballguy
They had to have agreed to an extension or the trade is atrocious. If they sign him to deal this is excellent trade for Bears. Maybe they understand now it might be smart to build up the trenches on both sides?
Commanders have tough decisions they can’t afford to sign all of their d linemen to lucrative extensions. Early second rounder is a nice return for a player they couldn’t re-sign.
Sunday Gravy
Footballguy
I guess maybe this give them a head start on FA to lock him up. Is a high 2nd rounder too much for that? Probably but I also don't really trust Poles making draft selections so....
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Really frustrated by the logic here. We are potentially trading Johnson, which doesn’t reflect well on management and indicates giving up on this year, but we are trading a high second pick for sweat? Why solve Washington’s problem? Why not just sign him as a free agent AND have the 35th(ish) pick in the draft? We actively don’t want to be better this year, we aren’t going to the playoffs. A team in the Bears position is wiser to tank hard and fully evaluate all personnel for 2024 and beyond.
FairWarning
Footballguy
The great move was drafting him, then trading him for the 2nd rounder (35th pick right now). It’s obvious the Bears haven’t learned a thing about trading away draft picks for players you have to pay market value for. As much as they need Sweat, I would rather have the pick and pay that pick much less for a few years.
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