Got him as my TE 2 in a startup draft recently. So happy Dallas did not take a TE. I think he's going to be, as you said, a top 10 TE, even with those other weapons.Congrats to all the owners that held onto him or snagged him off waivers late last year. He's a lock to be a top 10 TE this year barring injury with Witten finally gone and them signing him long term. He is definitely a part of their offensive plans moving forward.
Not sure if there will be enough passes his way, Amari, gallup, Lamb and Zeke...what he is 5th on the target list at best?Congrats to all the owners that held onto him or snagged him off waivers late last year. He's a lock to be a top 10 TE this year barring injury with Witten finally gone and them signing him long term. He is definitely a part of their offensive plans moving forward.
It doesn't work that way. He's the starting TE. None of those guys play that position. He'll be fine now that Witten is gone.Not sure if there will be enough passes his way, Amari, gallup, Lamb and Zeke...what he is 5th on the target list at best?
He's a lock to be a top 10 TE this year barring injury with Witten finally gone and them signing him long term.
Is this a joke? A "lock" for Top 10? I don't think it's good to call anything a 'lock' that almost everyone doesn't think will happen. Or even come close to happening.think he's going to be, as you said, a top 10 TE, even with those other weapons.
I don't think he's a lock by any means. I think he will be a top 10 TE. I wouldn't take him there in drafts because I don't have to. I just like what I've seen from him and there's not much competition at the TE position for on his team.Is this a joke? A "lock" for Top 10? I don't think it's good to call anything a 'lock' that almost everyone doesn't think will happen. Or even come close to happening.
The 4 FBG staffers have him ranked:
TE18
TE19
TE25
TE26
Want to wager on that? Out of 100 rankings, I'm sure he won't even hit top 10 in even one of them. Saying something that has a 5% chance of happening is a 'lock' is just trying to be showy. This is almost as bad as the Rico projections last year. Jarwin will not be a top 10 lock. If he ends up 11th to 15th ill be impressed.Milkman said:Writing is on the wall on this one. With the new contract, letting Witten walk, not drafting a TE. It's pretty safe to project Jarwin is taking Wittens role over. He's not coming to a new team either. He's been here 3 years working with Dak. He has literally no competition for that role.
Top 10 TE last year needed a 60-650-4 stat line.
Sure. Nothing crazy but I'll bet something fun like $20. Bets off obviously if we don't play a full season or he misses more than one game.Want to wager on that? Out of 100 rankings, I'm sure he won't even hit top 10 in even one of them. Saying something that has a 5% chance of happening is a 'lock' is just trying to be showy. This is almost as bad as the Rico projections last year. Jarwin will not be a top 10 lock. If he ends up 11th to 15th ill be impressed.
done.Sure. Nothing crazy but I'll bet something fun like $20. Bets off obviously if we don't play a full season or he misses more than one game.
Nope. We're betting on him. I don't want to lose a bet just because he gets hurt. Remember I'm the crazy one saying he's a lock for top 10.done.
EDT: Wait, if he misses more than one game? Does that apply to all the guys who finish above him?
So if Kelce, Ertz, and Kittle get hurt for half the year and Jarwin finishes 10th its okay? But if he gets hurt then its void? haha cmon!Nope. We're betting on him. I don't want to lose a bet just because he gets hurt. Remember I'm the crazy one saying he's a lock for top 10.
If he doesn't get hurt he's a lock for top 10 imo. Iyo I'm like 5% to win.
Lol you said I was 5% to win this bet. Asked if I wanted to bet. I said yes and offered terms. It's cool if you don't like those terms you just said you were 95% to win basically. No worries.So if Kelce, Ertz, and Kittle get hurt for half the year and Jarwin finishes 10th its okay? But if he gets hurt then its void? haha cmon!
what about a fantasy points per games played (minimum 10 games played).
Yes. 5% chance that he ends up top 10. So that's the bet, will he end top 10.Lol you said I was 5% to win this bet. Asked if I wanted to bet. I said yes and offered terms. It's cool if you don't like those terms you just said you were 95% to win basically. No worries.
1. Goedert's top WR's last year were Alshon (played 10 games) and Agholor (played 11 games). Not a single WR cracked 500 yards (Dallas had 3 of them crack 825 yards). Do you think none of Cooper, Gallup, or Lamb will hit 500 yards? Didn't think so.Dallas Goedert was the #10 fantasy TE last year. And he was the #2 TE on his own team. Jason Witten was #11 (and most of you thought he was playing in a wheel chair). Not sure how an obvious upgrade at the position would have a 5% chance of repeating the same performance.
In any case, the two bettors might want to clarify PPR or not. It could make difference...
And you said you were 100% to win this bet. (see definition of a "lock")Lol you said I was 5% to win this bet. Asked if I wanted to bet. I said yes and offered terms. It's cool if you don't like those terms you just said you were 95% to win basically. No worries.
You can argue the "but this's'" or the "but that's". The fact is that Witten was the #11 fantasy TE last year, which I believe was the initial discussion (not points per game) of where Jarwin would fall. If Witten's sixty-two year old ### could almost break the top ten last year, regardless of all the extenuating circumstances (injuries, Eagles sucky ### receivers, etc.), I would think Jarwin would have better than a 5% chance of doing it too. Do I think he's a lock to do it? Hell no. I was merely pointing out that I think a 5% chance of that happening is way too low in my opinion.1. Goedert's top WR's last year were Alshon (played 10 games) and Agholor (played 11 games). Not a single WR cracked 500 yards (Dallas had 3 of them crack 825 yards). Do you think none of Cooper, Gallup, or Lamb will hit 500 yards? Didn't think so.
2. Witten was TE21 on a per game basis in standard, (which he won't agree to because he wants every other TE to have injury risk built into the bet, except for his own). If we use 0.5 PPR, he's still TE15 last year. So yes, I think it will be quite hard for him to increase 5 spots from Witten's numbers, especially with Lamb taking away a lot of targets (more than Cobb did)
It's not really arguing but this's. I think Lamb's numbers are going to impact the Dallas Tight End.You can argue the "but this's'" or the "but that's". The fact is that Witten was the #11 fantasy TE last year, which I believe was the initial discussion (not points per game) of where Jarwin would fall. If Witten's sixty-two year old ### could almost break the top ten last year, regardless of all the extenuating circumstances (injuries, Eagles sucky ### receivers, etc.), I would think Jarwin would have better than a 5% chance of doing it too. Do I think he's a lock to do it? Hell no. I was merely pointing out that I think a 5% chance of that happening is way too low in my opinion.
Of course I was talking PPR. Witten and Jarwin had 94 receptions combined last year.And you said you were 100% to win this bet. (see definition of a "lock")
Honestly being a Top 10 TE isn’t saying all that much. The end of the list is guys that stayed healthy, mostly. It takes very minimal production to crack the Top 10 for TEs.Want to wager on that? Out of 100 rankings, I'm sure he won't even hit top 10 in even one of them. Saying something that has a 5% chance of happening is a 'lock' is just trying to be showy. This is almost as bad as the Rico projections last year. Jarwin will not be a top 10 lock. If he ends up 11th to 15th ill be impressed.
He still won't do it. I bet he's not even in the top 4 in receptions on his own team.Honestly being a Top 10 TE isn’t saying all that much. The end of the list is guys that stayed healthy, mostly. It takes very minimal production to crack the Top 10 for TEs.
I am betting he gets more targets than one of those listed (Lamb or Gallup).Not sure if there will be enough passes his way, Amari, gallup, Lamb and Zeke...what he is 5th on the target list at best?
And Zeke........I am betting he gets more targets than one of those listed (Lamb or Gallup).
Maybe - I actually thought Zeke was the big winner from drafting lamb.And Zeke........
I just don't see them changing their offense much from last year. They targeted the TE position 120+ times. They signed Jarwin to a respectable contract extension. He's a decent part of their offensive plans moving forward. I see him taking nearly all of Wittens target share. With nothing really behind him it wouldn't surprise me to see him flirt with 100+ targets.Maybe - I actually thought Zeke was the big winner from drafting lamb.
As good as the offense did last year it would be very hard for me to see a head coach with McCarthy's offensive background not putting his fingerprints on the offense in some way.I just don't see them changing their offense much from last year.
Yeah I'm worried about McCarthy as well. I don't know how much is because of him or Rodgers that they didn't target TEs as much. Or perhaps blind bad luck in terms of some TEs that underwhelmed for their own reasons.As good as the offense did last year it would be very hard for me to see a head coach with McCarthy's offensive background not putting his fingerprints on the offense in some way.
I think he was head coach in Green Bay for 12 season and he never had a TE hit 100 targets. Finley made it into the 90's twice I think and only other TE to make it to 90 was Graham. I don't think his talent is anywhere close to Finley's, but I would say he's better then 2018 Graham but those targets had a lot to do with an issue Dallas won't have which is no WR's.
So for me if this is a Mike McCarthcy offense 100 targets seems hard to come by or for me to expect out of a TE. I tend to think the odds suggest something more in the line of 80-90 range for Jarwin. They should be a very efficient 80-90 targets due to coverage he'll get and I think he could come in the 50-60 catch range and that might be good enough to make him top 10 but I'm not sure he's going to get to point he does not feel like just a guy and you are always looking to upgrade.
If you're not starting one of the top 3 TEs, pretty much all of them are in this range.Blake seems nice for an OK productive year, but if you are "satisfied" starting a guy week in/week out that will finish something like 48/540/5, thats cool I guess.
Meh not trying to devolve here in typical message board fashion, but the big 3 are GREAT, but the next 3 you will be VERY happy with production from any of:If you're not starting one of the top 3 TEs, pretty much all of them are in this range.
Andrews is in my top 3 (with Kittle and Kelce).Meh not trying to devolve here in typical message board fashion, but the big 3 are GREAT, but the next 3 you will be VERY happy with production from any of:
Austin Hooper
Darren Waller
Mark Andrews
I think their offense is simple.I just don't see them changing their offense much from last year. They targeted the TE position 120+ times. They signed Jarwin to a respectable contract extension. He's a decent part of their offensive plans moving forward. I see him taking nearly all of Wittens target share. With nothing really behind him it wouldn't surprise me to see him flirt with 100+ targets.
Not reallyIf you're not starting one of the top 3 TEs, pretty much all of them are in this range.
https://twitter.com/gehlkennfl/status/1294974821001039874?s=21Michael Gehlken @GehlkenNFL
Mike McCarthy: “I think Blake (Jarwin) is going to make a real impact on our offense. ...The ability to attack the middle of the field, in my view, is always critical to the passing game. ...I’ve been so impressed with him and really the entire tight end group.”