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At Least 181 K-12 Educators/Teachers Charged With Child Sex Crimes In First Half Of 2022 (10/1/22 9:22 PST) (1 Viewer)

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Direct Headline: At least 181 K-12 educators charged with child sex crimes in first half of 2022

140 of the arrests, or 77%, involved alleged sex crimes against students

By Jessica Chasmar July 20, 2022 2:03am

At least 181 K-12 educators, including four principals, were arrested on child sex-related crimes in the U.S. in the first six months of 2022, ranging from child pornography to raping students. An analysis conducted by Fox News Digital looked at local news stories week by week featuring arrests of principals, teachers, substitute teachers and teachers’ aides on child sex-related crimes in school districts across the country. Arrests that weren't publicized were not counted in the analysis, meaning the true number may well be higher.

The analysis found that at least 181 have been arrested between January 1 and June 30, which works out to exactly an arrest a day on average. The 181 educators included four principals, 153 teachers, 12 teachers' aides and 12 substitute teachers. At least 140 of the arrests, or 77%, involved alleged crimes against students. Men also made up the vast majority – 78% – of the arrests.

Many of the arrests involved especially heinous allegations.

Roger Weaver Freed, the 34-year-old former principal at Williamsport Area High School in Pennsylvania, was arrested in June and charged with sexual contact with a student, corruption of a minor, furnishing liquor to a minor, sexual assault and aggravated indecent assault without consent. Freed is accused of having a years-long sexual relationship with a male student.

Shannon Hall, a 31-year-old former teacher at Jamaica Gateway to the Sciences High School in New York City, was arrested in June and charged with forcible touching, endangering the welfare of a child and aggravated harassment. Hall is accused of grabbing a 14-year-old female student's breast inside his classroom and of sending texts to a 16-year-old student that
said he wanted to have sex with her and threatening to kill her if she told anyone.

Norman Merrill, a 45-year-old former teacher at Green Mountain Union High School in Vermont, was arrested in May and charged with production of child sexual abuse material and possession of child sexual abuse material. Merrill is accused of secretly video recording female students walking past him at school and of producing videos showing nude children.

Anessa Paige Gower, a 35-year-old former biology teacher at Making Waves Academy in Richmond, California, was charged with 29 counts of child molestation on April 8. Gower is accused of sexually abusing seven students between 2021-2022 when she was a teacher at Making Waves, with allegations including forcible sodomy of minors and sharing sexually graphic photos over online platforms.

John Doty, a 35-year-old former biology teacher at Career Academy South Bend in Indiana, was charged with two counts of rape, one count of attempted rape and six counts of child seduction on Feb. 9. Doty is accused of repeatedly raping a 16-year-old female student and threatening to kill her. He is scheduled to stand trial in January 2023.

The analysis comes after the U.S. Department of Education released a report last month, titled, "Study of State Policies to Prohibit Aiding and Abetting Sexual Misconduct in Schools," which
analyzed state policies prohibiting "passing the trash," or allowing suspected sexual abusers to quietly leave their jobs to possibly offend again in a different school district. A bipartisan provision of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA), which was originally proposed by Republican Sen. Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, requires all states receiving federal education funding to enact law prohibiting the practice of "passing the trash."

The Education Department’s report, however, found that laws against the practice are varied across the states, and that while all states require prospective employers to conduct criminal background checks on educators, and most states – 46 – require fingerprinting
, only 19 states require employers to request information from an applicants’ current and former employers. Moreover, only 14 states require employers to check an applicant’s eligibility for employment or certification, and 11 require applicants to disclose information regarding investigations or disciplinary actions related to sexual abuse or misconduct.

Toomey, who pressured the Education Department to release its report for months, said he’s "deeply concerned" by the findings. "....I am deeply concerned with these findings," Toomey said in a June statement. "Any educator who engaged in sexual misconduct with a child should be barred from ever teaching in a classroom again, yet too many states do not have policies to ensure that is the case. Releasing this report is only the first step—the department must hold states accountable and use the tools at its disposal to enforce the law."

Christopher Rufo, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, called for a new national study on child sex abuse in schools. "This is a scandal that the political Left is doing everything in its power to suppress....The basic fact is incontrovertible
: every day, a public school teacher is arrested, indicted, or convicted for child sex abuse. And yet, the teachers unions, the public school bureaucracies, and the left-wing media pretend that the abuse isn't happening and viciously attack families who raise concerns....."

The Department of Education last released a report on the topic in 2004, which claimed that nearly 9.6% of students are targets of educator sexual misconduct sometime during their school career.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/181-k-12-educators-charged-child-sex-crimes-2022


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Direct Headline: So far this year roughly one teacher or teacher's aide per DAY has been arrested for child sex crimes in the U.S. What is going on?

Not The Bee May 20, 2022

Erika Sanzi, director of outreach for Parents Defending Education, told Fox News Digital that the issue of teacher sex crimes against students needs to be more thoroughly examined by the federal government. She cited the Department of Education's 2004 report, which claimed that nearly 9.6% of students are targets of educator sexual misconduct sometime during their school career.

"Educator sexual abuse is a major problem that largely gets ignored because it's so uncomfortable to talk about," Sanzi said in a statement. "While a very small fraction of educators and school employees prey on the children in their care, one bad actor can do damage to many students....The last federally commissioned study on the issue was in 2004, pre-smart phone and those who study the issue closely say that the problem has been exacerbated by the ease of communication that a smart phone provides," she continued. "We need to get much more honest about the problem, study it again and ensure that we have policies and laws in place that protect children..."


https://notthebee.com/article/so-fa...er-day-has-been-arrested-for-child-sex-crimes


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"Children are the world's most valuable resource and its best hope for the future." - John F. Kennedy


One per day.

In this country, one adult, usually a teacher in a public school, is arrested for some kind of sex crime against a minor. Against children. From a position of public trust, usually paid for with our tax dollars. And these are just the ones being caught.

As Pat Toomey points out, many teachers and educators with a history of this kind of heinous and despicable and criminal behavior are simply shuffled off into other school districts. They move around in a system that wants to ignore that the problem exists and refuses to acknowledge the heightened risks in the information age and the commonality of the smart phone era, where predators can find new hunting grounds and track down innocent children to be violated and abused. In effect, our children have been subjected to a bureaucracy that leaves them out like prey to be massacred at the altar of woke and identity politics. Because it's Team Blue's hard push to hold onto the woke vote and the radical vote that enables this kind of psychotic madness. Trying to force in books that show graphic sexual acts, allowing teachers to talk about their gory personal sex lives, enabling teachers to hide and become deceitful in what parents should be informed about, having children be taken to 'drag shows' where adults are pole dancing, stripping, twerking and make overt sexual gestures in front of kids.

The common argument against a position like mine is that the numbers and frequency is not "statistically significant enough" to merit a more harsh and directed response.

SO JUST HOW MANY INNOCENT CHILDREN NEED TO BE RAPED, MOLESTED, SODOMIZED, FILMED, ABUSED AND MASSACRED TO BE CONSIDERED "STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH" TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?

In terms of pure political strategy, being the "woke" identity politics driven party associated with this is absolute poison. This is how Team Blue will lose and keep losing, by openly declaring war on children and their parents.

I'll leave this here for others to discuss.
 
This is awful. I think you can find large bi-partisan support for passing laws that protect children from sexual predators. I don't know why more states don't have laws requiring background checks on education workers. That should be priority number 1. Also holding people accountable for ignoring and covering up for the abusers.

To try to use this to score political points is also gross. I want people focused on fixing the problem not demonizing an entire political party.
 
Direct Headline: At least 181 K-12 educators charged with child sex crimes in first half of 2022

140 of the arrests, or 77%, involved alleged sex crimes against students

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SO JUST HOW MANY INNOCENT CHILDREN NEED TO BE RAPED, MOLESTED, SODOMIZED, FILMED, ABUSED AND MASSACRED TO BE CONSIDERED "STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH" TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?

In terms of pure political strategy, being the "woke" identity politics driven party associated with this is absolute poison. This is how Team Blue will lose and keep losing, by openly declaring war on children and their parents.

I'll leave this here for others to discuss.

This is how Team Blue will lose and keep losing, by openly declaring war on children and their parents.

Sorry. No. "Team Blue" (whatever that means) is not openly declaring war on children and their parents as part of some "political strategy" and I find such a contention laughably absurd.
 
I'm sure it was "team blue" infiltrating the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts too. Ridiculously slanted pov.
GG's twisted view of a more healthy forum is if everyone chased down articles of horrific anecdotes and used them to make sweeping, inaccurate generalizations about the other side. Of course, by "everyone" I mean conservatives and by "the other side" I mean liberals. Try to flip the script and his head explodes.
 
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This is the kind of desperate garbage that ruins conversation...


DIRECT HEADLINE: Oklahoma mom says former teacher should face ‘criminal charges’ over kids' access to ‘pornographic’ book

Emma Colton August 29, 2022 11:21am EDT

Pilar Melendez Sep. 04, 2022 11:27PM ET

A mother in Oklahoma says a former public school teacher should face "criminal charges" after giving students access to a book database that included "pornographic material."....."This is pornographic material," mother Laney Dicksion told Fox 25....No one would be allowed to disseminate this to children, much less a teacher in our public schools systems. [Teacher Summer Boismier] has access to children and to minors....The woman should not have access to children now or in the future. She should be stripped of her certifications. To be perfectly frank with you, she should have criminal charges against her...."

.... former Norman High School English teacher Summer Boismier provided students with a QR code this school year to a Brooklyn Public Library database called "Books Unbanned." Dicksion’....found books she described as pornographic....."What I found was the books unbanned program....Here's our next upcoming event: reading the book, 'Gender Queer.'"....The mom said she had filed a complaint with the school over the teacher giving students access to the database by providing them the QR code. Boismier told Fox 25 that she was placed on leave earlier this month and ultimately resigned.....

.....(Boismier statement) ...."However, there were some fundamental ideological differences between myself and district representatives that I just couldn’t get past. HB 1775 has created an impossible working environment for teachers and a devastating learning environment for students. For the second year in a row, students at Norman High will be without a certified English teacher for a substantial amount of time. The fault for that lies with Governor [Kevin] Stitt and Republican state leadership...."

Stitt signed House Bill 1775 last year, prohibiting public schools in the state from discriminating on the basis of race or sex...."Public schools in this state shall be prohibited from engaging in race or sex-based discriminatory acts by utilizing these methods, which result in treating individuals differently on the basis of race or sex or the creation of a hostile environment," HB 1775 reads.....Oklahoma's House voted 77-18 in favor of the bill....

As part of the new law, Norman Public Schools had teachers sign a form before classes began this school year, ensuring that teachers fully reviewed classroom libraries and removed some materials available to kids....Boismier confirmed ...that she had shared the QR code for "Unbanned Books" and told ...that she has "no regrets, would do it again, will do it again."....."In response to unfounded calls from state leadership for widespread censorship, I did share a library-linked QR code with my students. Immediately after this, I was removed from my position and placed on leave...."

Dicksion said it’s "frightening" that the former Norman teacher has "no regrets."....."Parents need to be aware of what's being given to their children, what's being pushed upon their children, and that's this [book]," ....

.....Norman Mayor Larry Heikkila told The Daily Beast that he will not “publicly support either side,” suggesting that the Boismier’s actions could be seen as “direct disobedience.”......“My wife was a teacher for 38 years, my older daughter is a teacher. I understand teachers and I also understand that school boards set the standard and we have to abide by those rules....”


https://www.foxnews.com/us/oklahoma...riminal-charges-kids-access-pornographic-book

https://www.thedailybeast.com/summer-boismier-exiled-norman-oklahoma-teacher-faces-cloudy-future



DIRECT HEADLINE: This Oklahoma teacher helped students get banned books. An official wants her license revoked

Nuria Martinez-Keel 10/2/22

....“There is no place for a teacher with a liberal political agenda in the classroom,”...After the first day of classes on Aug. 19, a parent complained about a display in Boismier’s Norman High School classroom and of comments the teacher made against HB 1775. ....Boismier, an English teacher, had covered all of her classroom bookshelves with red butcher paper that read, “books the state doesn’t want you to read.” She also posted a QR code to the Brooklyn Public Library, which gives students online access to banned books.....The teacher said she told her students HB 1775 is a “bigoted effort to legislate feelings.

....The policy required Norman teachers to verify they had either read every book in their classroom or could provide two professional sources confirming each title’s age and content appropriateness.....

.....Walters' comments against Boismier are “problematic” and the cause of unneeded controversy, said Katherine Bishop, president of the state's largest teachers union, the Oklahoma Education Association......“Instead of wasting his time on creating a political spectacle, we ask that he spend more time resolving the real issues facing the students of Oklahoma, such as the growing educator shortage crisis and the broadening resource gaps created from underfunding our public schools who serve every child, not just some.....”


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...homa-teacher-banned-books-hb-1775/7970325001/


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Let's talk about "desperate garbage" behavior some here.

You know what I find as repugnant solely in terms of behavior? A teacher pushing their political agenda at the cost of actually teaching her students while being paid with our tax dollars.

Summer Bolsier has a problem with HB1775 in her state. But it's the law. It was passed via actual democratic processes. Citizens voted for elected officials, and those elected officials voted in the needed majorities to pass the law. Did Bolsier challenge HB1775 by trying to apply those same democratic processes outside of the classroom? No, she decided to go completely rogue and violate the school districts rules and regulations she signed herself, saying she'd undergo the formal vetting process over what reading materials that could be seen as approved to show and suggest to students, and to use in the class room.

Instead Bolsier made the situation entirely political, and not teaching English as that's what she's actually supposed to be doing, and railroading her students to an entire archive of "banned books", including those that were seen as having sexualized material, sexually suggestive material and pornographic material. This was done without the consent of the parents of the kids in that class and the parents overall in the district. Not only did she violate her agreement, she created a situation that could have exploded into massive legal liability for the entire school system there.

Then Bolsier gaslights everyone by saying now her students don't have the English teacher that they need. And who is at fault for that? According to Bolsier, it's Republicans. Yes apparently she claims it was Republicans that forced her to violate her school district policies, take action that did not inform parents, risked her entire school district from a legal standpoint and prevented her from seeking to aid actual democratic processes OUTSIDE OF THE DAMN CLASSROOM to challenge and seek to change HB1775.

And what did the head of Bolsier's teacher union say about this? That anyone who criticized Bolsier were being political and ignoring the more important issue of improving the education of students in those classrooms. Not criticizing Bolsier for doing exactly what was denounced, but instead gaslighting anyone who opposed Bolsier's behavior.

"They" are coming for your kids. "They" aren't even trying to hide it anymore. "They" don't care about the agreements they sign or the rest of the school district or other teachers and other students, it's more important to grand stand than to do the actual job they were paid to do via our tax dollars. You can't give children porn and then shout "Bigot" at everyone who wants you fired over it.

It's this kind of behavior that emboldens child molesters and rapists and sexual abusers and psychopaths to push further and further forward to hunt down our children.

Maybe you should explain to all of us on when does it become necessary for a public school teacher to actually do their job and follow the rules? No one forced Bolsier to work there. She could have just as easily quit earlier and left and gone to a school district more in line with her viewpoints. As a small business owner, I found the ACA to be completely idiotic. But guess what? It's the law passed by democratic processes. I just don't get to pick and choose what laws I want to follow when I feel like it. If it makes me so unhappy, then I should seek to further the democratic processes in place to change what I don't like.

The radical left can't keep going after children like this. You can't keep waging war with working class parents and hope to prevail.
 
I'm sure it was "team blue" infiltrating the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts too. Ridiculously slanted pov.
GG's twisted view of a more healthy forum is if everyone chased down articles of horrific anecdotes and used them to make sweeping, inaccurate generalizations about the other side. Of course, by "everyone" I mean conservatives and by "the other side" I mean liberals. Try to flip the script and his head explodes.
The flip side is people saying it’s a one-off, small sample size, etc.
 
The flip side is people saying it’s a one-off, small sample size, etc.
There's an endless list of horrible things that happen in the world each day. Humans are flawed, selfish, evil animals. Assigning blame to "Team Blue" or Team Red usually means an inappropriate attachment of politics to an apolitical phenomenon. Want to feel it going in the other direction? How many school shootings do we have each week? That's Team Red's fault, right? They want those guns in the killer's hands. How about cases of molestation in the church? That's Christianity's fault, right?

People looking to assign blanket blame to the other side in these cases usually have a political axe to grind.
 
I'm sure it was "team blue" infiltrating the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts too. Ridiculously slanted pov.
GG's twisted view of a more healthy forum is if everyone chased down articles of horrific anecdotes and used them to make sweeping, inaccurate generalizations about the other side. Of course, by "everyone" I mean conservatives and by "the other side" I mean liberals. Try to flip the script and his head explodes.
You mean like BLM....but all the looting and arson.
 
garbage post


Direct Headline: Local teacher reinstated after refusing to use preferred pronouns, district policy suspended

By Rich Pierce, WPXI-TV October 05, 2022 at 11:14 pm EDT

...More than 400 people packed into the auditorium at South Side Area School District in Beaver County Wednesday evening...The majority were there in support of biology and anatomy teacher Daren Cusato. Cusato was suspended last week after refusing to refer to transgender students by their preferred pronouns, citing religious beliefs.

More than 40 people spoke at the meeting, most of them in support of Cusato’s reinstatement....“.... is standing up for what is right, even though he is standing by himself. I am thoroughly embarrassed that South Side School District has taken this arbitrary stance in choosing to align with the one percent...I am standing up here tonight to ask you to separate these two things: the very divisive but trendy topic of pronouns and the precedent that you are setting, which is that teachers need to modify their engagement of students based on how that student feels....”

....In the end, the majority got their wish. The district reinstated Cusato and suspended the policy that students must be referred to by their chosen pronouns....The board plans to write a new policy on the subject at a future meeting.


https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/loc...referred-pronouns/GRPQVASU7NEWNIYOOIXFMHRW7U/


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The school board here in Pennsylvania only relented because this controversy was beginning to gain traction in the national daily media cycle. Also the ousting of several members of the major school board in SF has turned heads.

So it's OK to push books into "inclusion" in school libraries that have graphic depictions of sexual acts, paid for with our tax dollars no less, but if a teacher refuses to use the "pronouns" that a student wants, then they are suspended and risk being fired. So tell me how that makes sense at all to the average working class parent.

You call this a "garbage post" but you ignore the critical issue.

The majority of parents in America do not and will not support the systematic "sexualization" of their children. This is how one side of the political aisle will lose elections. Masses of them. Not just the brand name elections like the Mid Terms, but local elections that are critical for the kind of policies that impact most of the day to day lives of where people actually live and work.
 
This is the kind of desperate garbage that ruins conversation...


Direct Headline: Teacher told student 'eat my ****' and sent kids oral sex simulation videos

By David Flett, 9 OCT 2022

Substantiated reports also detail that she showed male pupils photographs of her vagina but she has faced no police charges and education officials have refused to share her current employment status....Natalie Black, a 27-year-old teacher at Hillside Arts and Letters Academy in the Queens borough of New York, also sent kids videos of herself simulating oral sex by "deep throating" a bottle of alcohol while dancing naked from the waist down....Her highly inappropriate conduct started when she sent 15 raunchy images of herself "in lingerie or nude" to a 17-year-old male student towards the end of 2021....

...According to students at Hillside, the school community were never informed of the inquiry into her actions and she refused to cooperate with SCI investigators...But, on her LinkedIn account, she still claims to work for the Department of Education, who have declined to comment on her employment status....The reports on the sexual misbehaviour in New York's schools have been released to the New York Post with seven of the 21 cases involving female perpetrators....


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/teacher-told-student-eat-a-28189837


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As of today, soon to be former teacher Natalie Black has not been charged.

The activist complicit left leaning side of the MSM pretends like stories like this and controversies like this don't exist.

I will say, just like I did in the Libs of TikTok thread, the best way to address those who want to argue with me over this, and have a different viewpoint, is to keep posting example after example after example.

Something here is very wrong. There is a non stop barrage in movies, music, TV, the arts, education, on social media - basically all entities that the Left either control outright or dominate, that keeps attempting to sexualize minors.

You don't agree? That's your right to disagree. It's my right to keep posting examples and to point out something is clearly very very very wrong.

Very few people will pick their "political tribe" over their children and their kid's overall safety. And there are lots of parents here in these forums. And out in the big wide world. Do you think the majority of parents here who are regular posters are going to agree with your stances?
 
we live in a society now that celebrates people doing whatever they want to that makes them feel good

that's it - and if it is against social norms, traditional ethics and morals? even better, then they get told how brave they are for being themselves, the way they're born, for being true to themselves, for being old souls and all that garbage that I've seen to justify adultery, molesting and other types of immoral and unethical things

every one of these teachers KNEW what they were doing was wrong - and they chose to do them anyway and the kids involved? no, they're not capable of choosing to be in those relationships and they're also not capable of other adult decisions that the world seems to push society into saying they can


pass a law - sexually abuse under 16 years old and if you're a teacher automatic 30 years in prison without parole - that's be fine with me. Hard punishment, I got no patience for abusing kids
 
garbage post


Direct Headline: California Superintendent Attempts To Justify Student Masturbating In Class

Chrissy Clark October 13, 2022 3:53 PM ET

A California school district superintendent attempted to justify a seventh-grade student masturbating in front of classmates to parents’ dismay, according to video footage from a school board meeting....Conejo Valley Unified School District’s (CVUSD) Superintendent Dr. Mark McLaughlin told concerned parents that he does not believe a male child masturbating during class “is anything outside the norm,” according to footage from a Sept. 20 school board meeting. McLaughlin responded to mother Carrie Burgert, who told the school board that her seventh-grade daughter observed a peer masturbating during class.

On May 17, my seventh-grade daughter, along with every other classmate, watched a boy in her class masturbate,” Burgert said. “I only know this because my daughter told me in the car when I picked her up. Saying her friends said they were disturbed, traumatized, and scared. The principal reported the incident to the district office, I’ve heard not from any one of them.”

Burgert believes the 13-year-old was aroused because of the district’s sex education curriculum and the seemingly non-existent dress code. CVUSD parents told the Daily Caller that students wear bras and underwear to school and are allegedly not asked to put on additional clothing.....“It does not take an expert to figure out what happens to a 13-year-old boy when he’s staring at mostly naked girls wearing underwear to school and being exposed to concepts like oral and anal sex in seventh grade,” the mother continued. “They let children write the dress code.”

When responding to parents, the Superintendent appeared to shrug off the idea that masturbating in class is problematic.....“When we talk about masturbation, it could be rubbing of their jeans with their hands outside of their pants, doesn’t necessarily need to be inside,” McLaughlin said. “As someone who’s been an elementary and middle school principal I would say that, at least once a year, this comes up from both males and females within a school setting. So, I don’t think this is anything outside the norm.”

....McLaughlin dismissed a litany of other issues raised throughout the school board meeting by parents. The superintendent admitted that there are tampons available in the boy’s bathroom and that students are allowed to use any bathroom facility they wish to use....

CVUSD Board President Karen Sylvester appeared to be unaware of the incident. She insinuated that the teacher and board weren’t to blame, saying that it was something that “just happened.” Parents in the audience challenged Sylvester, claiming that she was aware of the incident and questioned why law enforcement weren’t involved.

Earlier this year, CVUSD parents concerned about the current state of their district launched multiple grassroots efforts such as Conejo Alert to inform and engage the community. One of the group’s leaders, Steve Schneider, alleged that his 8-year-old daughter was required to watch a video on transgenderism at Maple Elementary.


https://www.dailywire.com/news/sout...ting-in-front-of-classmates-claims-its-normal

https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/13/superintendent-attempts-justify-student-masturbating-class/


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The average age of a 7th grader in American public schools is about 12 years old.

Many of the regular forum posters here are parents. Many of them have daughters. I am a parent as well. Also many of my employees have children around this age range.

How would you like to explain to the parents here about a 7th grade boy getting caught masturbating in his class room, in front of their 12 year old daughters, then knowing this same kid could walk into the same bathroom as those little girls at any time. And once it's brought up to the school district, the responses are "It just happened" and then gaslighting about whether the rubbing was over or under someone's pants or not.

And finally they are told that it's "not outside the norm"

You mean like having 8 year olds watch videos on transgenderism, in the same said school district, should not be considered outside the norm?

The rate of public school teachers getting caught in sexual misconduct, sexual abuse, grooming, rape and molestation in current times, you think there is no contributing factor from situations like in Conejo Valley schools?

I would like the parents here in these forums and all parents across the country, no matter their political viewpoints, to have their 12 year old daughters safe when they go to school. How crazy does that sound? Because to some of you, apparently that sounds totally insane. Is this a good time for some of the radical leftists in here to start shouting "Bigot!" at myself now?

Go on, call this a "garbage post" if you wish. Go on, do it. Let everyone here know where you stand when it comes to the safety of America's 12 year old daughters.
 
we live in a society now that celebrates people doing whatever they want to that makes them feel good

that's it - and if it is against social norms, traditional ethics and morals? even better, then they get told how brave they are for being themselves, the way they're born, for being true to themselves, for being old souls and all that garbage that I've seen to justify adultery, molesting and other types of immoral and unethical things

every one of these teachers KNEW what they were doing was wrong - and they chose to do them anyway and the kids involved? no, they're not capable of choosing to be in those relationships and they're also not capable of other adult decisions that the world seems to push society into saying they can


pass a law - sexually abuse under 16 years old and if you're a teacher automatic 30 years in prison without parole - that's be fine with me. Hard punishment, I got no patience for abusing kids

I don’t think this anything new to society. Sadly children being sexually abused or assaulted by people in power is a sin as old as time. People are just most likely to get caught, have the story spread and face punishment now more than ever. I’m all for harsh consequences for people that abuse kids. I don’t think the caveat of being a teacher should matter here. If an accountant takes advantage of a neighborhood kid or a doctor takes advantage of a patient or a cop takes advantage of a suspect or someone in IT takes advantage of their niece/nephew they should also be subject to the same harsh punishments.
 
I don’t think this anything new to society. Sadly children being sexually abused or assaulted by people in power is a sin as old as time. People are just most likely to get caught, have the story spread and face punishment now more than ever. I’m all for harsh consequences for people that abuse kids. I don’t think the caveat of being a teacher should matter here. If an accountant takes advantage of a neighborhood kid or a doctor takes advantage of a patient or a cop takes advantage of a suspect or someone in IT takes advantage of their niece/nephew they should also be subject to the same harsh punishments.

women teachers doing it is new, and the gay/lesbian factor involved

but the argument becomes that the kids wanted it, it was their body, their choice ....... and in today's woke culture that tells us kids are born certain ways and kids get to chooce their gender etc .... how can we argue against it ? I hate it - but that's the liberal created reality
 
women teachers doing it is new, and the gay/lesbian factor involved

but the argument becomes that the kids wanted it, it was their body, their choice ....... and in today's woke culture that tells us kids are born certain ways and kids get to chooce their gender etc .... how can we argue against it ? I hate it - but that's the liberal created reality
Is it new? Tough to say without data but I don’t think it is. I think we just use to kind of cheer on if a teen boy had a sexual encounter with a woman. The gay thing probably happened too, we just didn’t talk about it or think that it could have happened. Homosexuality isn’t new.

I don’t see any connection between letting kids be fluid with gender and finding it acceptable for an adult to have a sexual relationship with a kid. I work in a HS and everything is pretty similar to when I was in HS 25 years ago.
 
pass a law - sexually abuse under 16 years old and if you're a teacher automatic 30 years in prison without parole - that's be fine with me. Hard punishment, I got no patience for abusing kids
I'm not understanding the bolded part. So if the abuser isn't a teacher, then what? Less strict punishment?

Put more simply, why is the "and if you're a teacher" clause necessary?
 
women teachers doing it is new, and the gay/lesbian factor involved

but the argument becomes that the kids wanted it, it was their body, their choice ....... and in today's woke culture that tells us kids are born certain ways and kids get to chooce their gender etc .... how can we argue against it ? I hate it - but that's the liberal created reality
There have always been gay and lesbian teachers. They were closeted many times, but them teaching is not new in the slightest.

And WTF are you talking about "the kids wanted it"? That is a ****ing gross depiction of this thing and you should be ashamed that those words ever were typed from your keyboard. Gross dude
 
The bigotry of the OP is clear in this thread. Look at the way he attempts to directly tie sex crimes to societies recent efforts to be more inclusive of LGBTQ folks.

It’s an old tactic, used against those who have fought for the rights and inclusion of ostracized groups in the past. When women and African Americans fought for equal rights and inclusion, they had to fight against folks like the OP who tried to smear and demonize them.

These tactics are disgusting and we must push back against this kind of bigotry, but it’s helpful to remember that anti-LGBTQ folks like the OP are mostly of a shrinking demographic. In a couple of decades when many of our children are in their 20s and 30s, they and their bigoted views will mostly be gone.
 
I'm not understanding the bolded part. So if the abuser isn't a teacher, then what? Less strict punishment?

Put more simply, why is the "and if you're a teacher" clause necessary?


because the thread is about teachers

me? castrate rapists, long prison sentences for child abuse etc etc .... I was simply trying to be clear on teachers
 
There have always been gay and lesbian teachers. They were closeted many times, but them teaching is not new in the slightest.

And WTF are you talking about "the kids wanted it"? That is a ****ing gross depiction of this thing and you should be ashamed that those words ever were typed from your keyboard. Gross dude

it IS gross IMO but the woke crowd wants kids to be able to choose their gender, choose their hormone therapy and sexual transitions .... if they're capable of choosing all that, its not a stretch at all to connect the dots like NAMBLA did
 
I'm not understanding the bolded part. So if the abuser isn't a teacher, then what? Less strict punishment?

Put more simply, why is the "and if you're a teacher" clause necessary?


because the thread is about teachers

me? castrate rapists, long prison sentences for child abuse etc etc .... I was simply trying to be clear on teachers
Got it, that makes sense. I should have put that together.

I'm with you on the bolded too.
 
There have always been gay and lesbian teachers. They were closeted many times, but them teaching is not new in the slightest.

And WTF are you talking about "the kids wanted it"? That is a ****ing gross depiction of this thing and you should be ashamed that those words ever were typed from your keyboard. Gross dude

it IS gross IMO but the woke crowd wants kids to be able to choose their gender, choose their hormone therapy and sexual transitions .... if they're capable of choosing all that, its not a stretch at all to connect the dots like NAMBLA did
Of course it is a stretch. You are even more off the deep end than typical friend.
 
it IS gross IMO but the woke crowd wants kids to be able to choose their gender, choose their hormone therapy and sexual transitions .... if they're capable of choosing all that, its not a stretch at all to connect the dots like NAMBLA did
It is a huge stretch. Who cares what NAMBLA says. That’s like citing flat earthers or Westboro Baptist Church. We are talking just about the most fringe extreme group possible. No reasonable person would connect a teen finding their identity and place in the world with the right for an adult to commit statutory rape.
 
The bigotry of the OP is clear in this thread. Look at the way he attempts to directly tie sex crimes to societies recent efforts to be more inclusive of LGBTQ folks.

It’s an old tactic, used against those who have fought for the rights and inclusion of ostracized groups in the past. When women and African Americans fought for equal rights and inclusion, they had to fight against folks like the OP who tried to smear and demonize them.

These tactics are disgusting and we must push back against this kind of bigotry, but it’s helpful to remember that anti-LGBTQ folks like the OP are mostly of a shrinking demographic. In a couple of decades when many of our children are in their 20s and 30s, they and their bigoted views will mostly be gone.

Just imagine if those rightwing bigotted media reported every one of these stories? There would be a thread in here 'another child rape at the hands of teachers'. Their target audience would believe there were tens of thousands of these and they would have irrational fear of sending their children to school. That would fuel mass protests where schools were looted and a few would get burned down. There would be a huge outcry to defund the teachers. I am surprised those extremist hatefilled bigots on the right are not doing that. Good thing we have good and tolerant loving people in the left who would never anything do that. That would be what real bigotry looks like.
 
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it IS gross IMO but the woke crowd wants kids to be able to choose their gender, choose their hormone therapy and sexual transitions .... if they're capable of choosing all that, its not a stretch at all to connect the dots like NAMBLA did
It is a huge stretch. Who cares what NAMBLA says. That’s like citing flat earthers or Westboro Baptist Church. We are talking just about the most fringe extreme group possible. No reasonable person would connect a teen finding their identity and place in the world with the right for an adult to commit statutory rape.

The movement to normalize pedophilia goes beyond just nambla. Professors, teachers, therapists, and even medical journals are promoting the idea to destigmatize having sex with children. Thankfully there is pushback still, but there are influential people behind this and not just fringe nutcases.

Licensed Pennsylvania sex therapist defends 'minor-attracted persons' in viral video


Outrage as paedophiles rebrand themselves as 'minor-attracted persons' in chilling online propaganda drive


Non-Offending Minor-Attracted Persons: Professional Practitioners' Views on the Barriers to Seeking and Receiving Their Help


Prison sex therapist defends pedophiles as ‘minor-attracted persons,’ outraging victim advocates


Teacher told teens 'don't use pedophile' use 'minor attracted person'


Prof says let's ditch the term pedophile for 'minor-attracted person'

 
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Direct Headline: California Superintendent Attempts To Justify Student Masturbating In Class

Chrissy Clark October 13, 2022 3:53 PM ET

A California school district superintendent attempted to justify a seventh-grade student masturbating in front of classmates to parents’ dismay, according to video footage from a school board meeting....Conejo Valley Unified School District’s (CVUSD) Superintendent Dr. Mark McLaughlin told concerned parents that he does not believe a male child masturbating during class “is anything outside the norm,” according to footage from a Sept. 20 school board meeting. McLaughlin responded to mother Carrie Burgert, who told the school board that her seventh-grade daughter observed a peer masturbating during class.

On May 17, my seventh-grade daughter, along with every other classmate, watched a boy in her class masturbate,” Burgert said. “I only know this because my daughter told me in the car when I picked her up. Saying her friends said they were disturbed, traumatized, and scared. The principal reported the incident to the district office, I’ve heard not from any one of them.”

Burgert believes the 13-year-old was aroused because of the district’s sex education curriculum and the seemingly non-existent dress code. CVUSD parents told the Daily Caller that students wear bras and underwear to school and are allegedly not asked to put on additional clothing.....“It does not take an expert to figure out what happens to a 13-year-old boy when he’s staring at mostly naked girls wearing underwear to school and being exposed to concepts like oral and anal sex in seventh grade,” the mother continued. “They let children write the dress code.”

When responding to parents, the Superintendent appeared to shrug off the idea that masturbating in class is problematic.....“When we talk about masturbation, it could be rubbing of their jeans with their hands outside of their pants, doesn’t necessarily need to be inside,” McLaughlin said. “As someone who’s been an elementary and middle school principal I would say that, at least once a year, this comes up from both males and females within a school setting. So, I don’t think this is anything outside the norm.”

....McLaughlin dismissed a litany of other issues raised throughout the school board meeting by parents. The superintendent admitted that there are tampons available in the boy’s bathroom and that students are allowed to use any bathroom facility they wish to use....

CVUSD Board President Karen Sylvester appeared to be unaware of the incident. She insinuated that the teacher and board weren’t to blame, saying that it was something that “just happened.” Parents in the audience challenged Sylvester, claiming that she was aware of the incident and questioned why law enforcement weren’t involved.

Earlier this year, CVUSD parents concerned about the current state of their district launched multiple grassroots efforts such as Conejo Alert to inform and engage the community. One of the group’s leaders, Steve Schneider, alleged that his 8-year-old daughter was required to watch a video on transgenderism at Maple Elementary.


https://www.dailywire.com/news/sout...ting-in-front-of-classmates-claims-its-normal

https://dailycaller.com/2022/10/13/superintendent-attempts-justify-student-masturbating-class/


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The average age of a 7th grader in American public schools is about 12 years old.

Many of the regular forum posters here are parents. Many of them have daughters. I am a parent as well. Also many of my employees have children around this age range.

How would you like to explain to the parents here about a 7th grade boy getting caught masturbating in his class room, in front of their 12 year old daughters, then knowing this same kid could walk into the same bathroom as those little girls at any time. And once it's brought up to the school district, the responses are "It just happened" and then gaslighting about whether the rubbing was over or under someone's pants or not.

And finally they are told that it's "not outside the norm"

You mean like having 8 year olds watch videos on transgenderism, in the same said school district, should not be considered outside the norm?

The rate of public school teachers getting caught in sexual misconduct, sexual abuse, grooming, rape and molestation in current times, you think there is no contributing factor from situations like in Conejo Valley schools?

I would like the parents here in these forums and all parents across the country, no matter their political viewpoints, to have their 12 year old daughters safe when they go to school. How crazy does that sound? Because to some of you, apparently that sounds totally insane. Is this a good time for some of the radical leftists in here to start shouting "Bigot!" at myself now?

Go on, call this a "garbage post" if you wish. Go on, do it. Let everyone here know where you stand when it comes to the safety of America's 12 year old daughters.
Cmon. How many guys in here haven’t done this during a dull work meeting, particularly via Zoom?
 
The bigotry of the OP is clear in this thread. Look at the way he attempts to directly tie sex crimes to societies recent efforts to be more inclusive of LGBTQ folks.

It’s an old tactic, used against those who have fought for the rights and inclusion of ostracized groups in the past. When women and African Americans fought for equal rights and inclusion, they had to fight against folks like the OP who tried to smear and demonize them.

These tactics are disgusting and we must push back against this kind of bigotry, but it’s helpful to remember that anti-LGBTQ folks like the OP are mostly of a shrinking demographic. In a couple of decades when many of our children are in their 20s and 30s, they and their bigoted views will mostly be gone.
Yup. These tactics have been used for a long long time. Despicable.
 

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