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2060: Will you be proud of your FBG/message boards/social media posts from 2000 on? (2 Viewers)
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Ramblin Wreck
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tommyGunZ
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Imagine the thoughts floating around in a head that resulted in a choice to draft a thread like this.
The Z Machine
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2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
2060? I'll be the new, oldest person to have ever lived. By a lot.
GoBirds
Footballguy
The PSF motto. Although the point of this thread is his own guilt if you are familiar with his past. The Haymakers GG is landing are also quite epic.
GoBirds
Footballguy
The good news is you’ve been chosen to put the championship belt on @GordonGekko, be respectful of the champ.
quick-hands
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Summer Wheat
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dkp993
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GordonGekko
Footballguy
https://forums.footballguys.com/topic/776645-trump-to-infinity-and-beyond-hq-the-great-and-positive-place/?do=findComment&comment=22520075
tommyGunZ Posted February 23, 2020
Apparently you (and lots of other Trump supporters) are okay with Trump’s bigotry, misogyny, and corruption so long as he’s good for your wallet, right? Like, you’d rather he not do all that stuff, but when it’s time to make the hard choice about who to actually vote for, the economic policy that benefits you personally outweighs all that bad stuff, and you look past it and vote for the bigot.
What part of that is inaccurate?
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Direct Headline: Opinion: Millions more Americans will go hungry if Congress doesn't act soon
Families across America are precariously perched on the edge of a hunger cliff. With inflation on the rise and supply chain backlogs, more families have been turning to food banks, forcing programs nationwide to ration supplies and cut services....The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has estimated that as many as 30 million adults and 12 million children are living in food-insecure households. And the U.S. Census Bureau's Household Pulse Survey found that in the last seven days, 10.3% of respondents sometimes or often did not have enough to eat. Local food aid organizations are essential community resources for families during this crisis, but they cannot do it all by themselves.....
by Levar Stoney and John Giles for CNN Business Perspectives 9:21 AM ET, Tue April 26, 2022
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/26/perspectives/hunger-food-pandemic-snap/index.html
Direct Headline: Surging prices could fuel child hunger - and families are scared months before midterms
President Joe Biden has tried to reassure Americans that speeding inflation will subside, but many families are now struggling to feed their kids.
Kenneth Tran 6/30/22
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/06/30/midterms-inflation-food-prices-hunger/7626553001/?gnt-cfr=1
Direct Headline: 10 Crazy Examples of Unrelated Waste and Partisan Kick-Backs in New ‘COVID’ Bill
President Biden has proposed $1.9 trillion in additional COVID-19 spending. He's asking Congress to authorize another round of checks, more expanded unemployment benefits, a $15 minimum wage, and much, much more. Over the weekend, House Democrats finally released the text of the 600-page bill meant to make Biden’s broad COVID proposals a legislative reality.
1. $1 Billion for ‘Racial Justice’ for Farmers
“The $1.9 trillion coronavirus stimulus package being pushed by President Biden puts more than $1 billion toward ‘socially disadvantaged’ farmers and related groups — including an equity commission, agricultural training and other assistance to advance racial justice in farming,” Fox News reports.
2. $50 Million for ‘Environmental Justice’ Grants
The legislation allocates $50 million for “environmental justice” grants via the Environmental Protection Agency. The Republican Study Commission decried these grants as a “thinly-veiled kickback” because much of this money will end up going to left-wing political groups.
8. Expansion of Obamacare Subsidies
House Democrats have long sought to expand Obamacare subsidies and eliminate caps that prohibit them from going to high-income individuals. Unable to find the votes to do so via the normal legislative process, they’ve simply slipped this partisan priority into their “COVID” relief legislation.
10. Countless Pet Projects for Powerful Lawmakers
There are too many in the bill to count, but one glaring example of the corruption and cronyism peppered throughout this bill comes courtesy of the $1.5 million it allocates for the Seaway International Bridge. The bridge “connects New York to Canada and is a priority for New York Sen. Chuck Schumer,” the Wall Street Journal notes.
Brad Polumbo February 22, 2021
https://fee.org/articles/10-crazy-examples-of-unrelated-waste-and-partisan-kick-backs-in-new-covid-bill/
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Biden shut down the American economy and started printing trillions of dollars. What did everyone think was going to happen?
I'd rather have mean tweets than starving children.
Speaking of economic policy that "benefits someone personally", where does Racial Justice For Farmers fit into the equation? How many school lunches for children can you buy with a billion dollars of pure political pork? Does Environmental Justice outweigh all the "bad stuff"?
Have you considered the "hard choice" was actually the radical left refusing to vote for the guy with dementia who can barely walk up a flight of stairs who was going to totally collapse our entire economy even if it fulfilled their tribalism?
In less than two years, the Obama/Biden/Harris/Rice regime has made our country more at risk from a national security standpoint and the lives of our children under greater threat.
Looks like the wallets Biden is good for belong to Ron Klain, Susan Rice, Jennifer Granholm, David Cohen, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Nancy Pelosi's son and husband, Hunter Biden, fat cat corporate donors, and on and on and on. Regular every day working class people were abandoned to watch their children starve.
The "economic policy that benefits people personally" also includes knowing when you'll eat your next meal.
GordonGekko
Footballguy
https://forums.footballguys.com/topic/790081-how-much-voter-fraud-happened-in-2020/?do=findComment&comment=23128456
tommyGunZ Posted December 9, 2020
This is consistent with what we’ve seen in the Trump era. Lots of wild, baseless claims from conservatives, which are then refuted by courts/Democrats with facts/evidence. And of course Conservatives don’t care that their claims were debunked/dismissed, they just move onto the next crazy conspiracy theory with zero accountability for their prior craziness.
https://forums.footballguys.com/topic/790071-potential-biden-cabinet/?do=findComment&comment=23127596
tommyGunZ Posted December 8, 2020
Also, can you link to your posts expressing outrage over all of the Trump family corruption the past few years, since apparently the mere perception of corruption by Hunter Biden is so important.
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Direct Headline: Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say
More than 50 former senior intelligence officials have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the recent disclosure of emails allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden, pictured here, “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.” ....More than 50 former senior intelligence officials have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the recent disclosure of emails allegedly belonging to Joe Biden’s son “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.” .... they said their national security experience had made them “deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case” and cited several elements of the story that suggested the Kremlin’s hand at work........“If we are right,” they added, “this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this....Such an operation would be consistent with Russian objectives, as outlined publicly and recently by the Intelligence Community, to create political chaos in the United States and to deepen political divisions here but also to undermine the candidacy of former Vice President Biden and thereby help the candidacy of President Trump......”
By Natasha Bertrand 10/19/2020 10:30 PM EDT
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276
Direct Headline: GOP demands ‘experts’ who dismissed Hunter Biden laptop fess up — or face subpoenas
House Judiciary Committee Republicans are demanding that 51 former intelligence operatives divulge information about their 2020 statement that documents from Hunter Biden’s laptop could be Russian disinformation — with a senior GOP aide telling The Post that the ex-spies should expect subpoenas next year if they fail to comply.....A year and a half after The Post first reported on the hard drive contents, the Washington Post and New York Times recently said they verified the veracity of the data as a federal investigation into the first son over possible tax fraud, money laundering and foreign lobbying crimes heats up....
“At best, the public statement was a reckless attempt by you and your co-signatories to erroneously opine about purported election interference. At worse—and more likely—the public statement was a deliberate and coordinated effort to mislead the American people about information relevant to the 2020 presidential election by invoking your national security experience to falsely suggest that the allegations about Hunter Biden were not based in fact.....”
Biden wrote college recommendation letters for kids of Chinese exec tied to Hunter
A photo and emails subsequently reported by The Post indicate Joe Biden attended a 2015 dinner at DC’s Cafe Milano with a group of his son’s associates — including Pozharskyi, a trio of Kazakhs and Russian billionaire Yelena Baturina and her husband, ex-Moscow mayor Yury Luzhkov. Baturina is Russia’s richest woman and a 2020 report from Republican-led Senate committees alleges that in 2014 she paid $3.5 million to a firm associated with Hunter Biden....A second October 2020 bombshell from The Post described communications about Hunter Biden and his uncle Jim Biden’s business venture with the company CEFC China Energy. A May 13, 2017, email recovered from the laptop said the “big guy” would get a 10 percent equity stake in a corporate entity established with CEFC.
....Most of the 51 intelligence veterans didn’t respond to recent requests for comment from The Post....
By Steven Nelson April 6, 2022 2:54pm
https://nypost.com/2022/04/06/gop-demands-experts-who-dismissed-hunter-biden-laptop-fess-up/
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"The mere perception of corruption by Hunter Biden" - That's really not going to age well.
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GordonGekko
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https://forums.footballguys.com/topic/790063-trump/?do=findComment&comment=23087587
tommyGunZ Posted November 16, 2020
I think the AG of NY will keep Trump busy.
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Direct Headline: Gregg Jarrett: NY's AG Letitia James' behavior is an affront to justice. She is neither fair nor impartial
Before Democrat Letitia James was ever elected Attorney General of New York in 2018, she vowed to exploit the immense powers of that high office to investigate and prosecute then-President Donald Trump for his business transactions. ...Never mind that James was not privy to any evidence or documents that the then-president had ever violated state laws as a real estate developer. Being bereft of facts did not deter her from accusing Trump of everything from "money laundering" to "defrauding Americans." She publicly denounced him as an "illegitimate president" and constantly repeated her campaign pledge to take him down..... Three months after assuming office, James officially launched the predestined probe. Her bitter crusade was always an investigation in search of a crime. She prejudged the merits of a case she had yet to bring and promised an outcome that was preordained....
.....Examine the A-G’s rabid campaign rhetoric that she suffused with strident anti-Trump diatribes. She accused him of conspiring with foreign governments, obstruction of justice, and a "pattern and practice of money laundering." She informed her supporters and the media that she was running for attorney general because "the man in the White House can’t go a day without threatening our fundamental rights." ...There is more. James vowed to relentlessly pursue Trump, his organization, his family, and anyone in his orbit. "Taking on President Trump and looking at all the violations of law I think is no match to what I have seen in my lifetime," she proclaimed. This was before she was even sworn into office......
By Gregg Jarrett May 20, 2021 1:19pm EDT
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ny-ag-letitia-james-justice-impartial-gregg-jarrett
VIDEO: Why New York Attorney General Did Not Bring Charges Against Cuomo Aug 3, 2021
Following the New York Attorney General's report that Governor Andrew Cuomo sexually harassed multiple women, NBC News' Rehema Ellis and Danny Cevallos analyze the investigation, why there were no charges brought and whether the governor could resign.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1eZ-MZ4PkY
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Tish James campaigned before she was even AG, to bring down Donald Trump. Very impartial there.....
However when the Andrew Cuomo scandal broke out, she refused to charge Chris Cuomo's big brother. And the other counties in question would have certainly done so if James wanted it that way. But she was running for Governor herself and it was going to cost her too much personal political capital to do her actual job. ( She failed in her bid to be Governor....)
And she failed, as were her promises, to put Trump in prison over financial crimes, she's never proven he engaged in money laundering and she even went as so far as to call him an "illegitimate President" , which she also did not prove.
Hilariously, James accused Trump of "conspiring with foreign governments" but she still endorsed "The Big Guy" in Joe Biden for President.
Point to note, your original post was 10 words. Think about that. You just got cooked over 10 words. I made you "reflect back" over 10 words. But no one made you act like an egregious hard line tribalist looking to hunt down Conservatives for all these years. You brought it all onto yourself.
tommyGunZ
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GordonGekko
Footballguy
https://forums.footballguys.com/topic/788026-timschochet’s-political-thoughts-and-commentary-back-in-here-until-the-election-is-done/?do=findComment&comment=23059104
tommyGunZ Posted November 3, 2020
I think you are discounting tail risk. Donald Trump can not have the nuclear codes for another 4 years.
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VIDEO: Moment Joe Biden shakes hands with thin air after speech Apr 15, 2022
Joe Biden was left empty-handed as he appeared to shake hands with thin air after a speech on the United State’s ongoing supply chain woes. The 79-year-old President had just finished delivering a nearly 40-minute speech in Greensboro, North Carolina, when he turned to his right and stuck out his hand, despite being alone on the stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_59agcnLAj4
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What's kind of interesting is you meant for this to be a thread where you could just pile onto Conservatives for sport.
I get this unshakeable feeling you'll be reflecting quite a bit in this thread.
Did you want to have another go at whom should be handling the nuclear football here?
Frostillicus
Footballguy
This has gotten weird.
But I have to admit I was happy the Timberwolves didn't draft Steph Curry. He was too small, not athletic enough, his only skill was shooting, and he dominated a small conference.
Oops.
But I have to admit I was happy the Timberwolves didn't draft Steph Curry. He was too small, not athletic enough, his only skill was shooting, and he dominated a small conference.
Oops.
tommyGunZ
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Your posts have done a fantastic job of illuminating why I started this thread.
I’m 100% confident in Biden Administration making decisions with regard to nuclear weapons. Not because of partisanship, but b/c I know those decisions will be vetted and thought out as opposed to the result of a temper tantrum from an imbecile who had literally never be in public service before.
Manster
Footballguy
I see what ur doing......u don't like conservatives and u are coming at from a "down the road" angle.
I will be fine with my stance. I think when this time in history is looked back upon, we will wonder where were the adults? Why were the children allowed to run the show?
Also, by 2060 the USA will prolly have gone thru some sort of major collapse.....people will have to worry about day to day survival.....all this liberal social justice crap, and being a furry or whatever, will have gone away pretty much.
FairWarning
Footballguy
FairWarning
Footballguy
Lol no, but I’m sure they do social media checks. Most certainly not giving my trolling libs account on twitter.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Well, This thread didn't go as planned. I haven't seen this many takedowns since my last Varsity wrestling tournament in 1987. I'm guessing long before 2060 shows up, the OP is going to regret ever having started this. 
Tgunz grandchild: "Gpaw-paw Tgunz, where were you during The Great FBG Takedown of 2022?"
Tgunz: "You best shush up!!" (sound of kid getting slapped)
Tgunz grandchild: "Gpaw-paw Tgunz, where were you during The Great FBG Takedown of 2022?"
Tgunz: "You best shush up!!" (sound of kid getting slapped)
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GoBirds
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IvanKaramazov
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Sure, why not?
This seems like an easy one to check. I was in college approximately 30 years ago. When I look back on views that I held in college -- many of which I've since changed my mind about -- do I fee bad about anything or am I mostly happy with where I was then and the trajectory that I've been on for the past three decades? Well, on reflection, I'm definitely in the "mostly happy" camp. I don't see any obvious reason to think that I'll feel differently another 30-40 years from now.
This seems like an easy one to check. I was in college approximately 30 years ago. When I look back on views that I held in college -- many of which I've since changed my mind about -- do I fee bad about anything or am I mostly happy with where I was then and the trajectory that I've been on for the past three decades? Well, on reflection, I'm definitely in the "mostly happy" camp. I don't see any obvious reason to think that I'll feel differently another 30-40 years from now.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Yes he did but you Trump was able to do so because he had 3 vacancies in the 4 years he was president. That doesn't happen very often.
He also benefited that the Republicans changed their stance after they blocked Merrick Garalnd's Supreme Court nomination hearings because they were in an election year but then rushed Amy Coney Barrett's nomination 30 days before the election.
But you are correct: Trump delivered on his promise.
Manster
Footballguy
The better question is are our children and their children going to be able handle the collapse? From my perspective we are raising children who are offended by everything and are too concerned with social issues, rather than how to be a productive member of society.......will they be able to handle it when #### gets real? I have my doubts.
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Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I always find this particular line of thinking interesting.Manster said:
Like, trying to make the world such a place where my kids have it easier than me is, in my opinion, one of my jobs. YMMV of course. But there is a quote attributed to John Adams that I've always admired...something along the lines of I study war and politics so that my sons may study mathematics and science so that their sons may study art and poetry. The point being, make it better and easier for them and give them a world where the art and poetry is a fine pursuit.
Now, we can't always do that of course. We are quick to teach our children hard work when they are young because you have to, of course. And we always use the language of, we'll when I was younger......
When my son was roughly 12 I made him mow the lawn. He hated it. One day while fighting with me about it I know I said something along the lines of, you don't know how easy you have it. The lawn I had to mow when I was your age was 3 times as big and had hills. You know, I had it hard to so buck up and take it.
But the point of that lesson, to me, is to teach the same hard work I was taught, using myself as an example so we could relate and he could know that I empathize with hating to mow the lawn as well. The point wasn't, I suffered so you suffer. That isn't teaching or making the world better. That is selfish projection.
It seems that far too many people had to suffer, so now others should as well. In a whole host of areas. I don't know why that is.
Shula-holic
Footballguy
I think a lot about this as well. We teach our children not to offend anyone, and that's great. For sure we could take some lessons, but we also need thicker skins. I'm just curious where the backbone is going to come from when it's time to stand up to China, and that time will come. Our biggest threat isn't from someone who is worried about inclusivity or microaggressions.Manster said:
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
With regard to the bold, who do you think needs thicker skin? The minorities who have been discriminated against and are victims of exclusionary behavior? Or the folks like you and me who have never had to endure any discrimination, but apparently don't want to hear about the hardships others have to deal with?
Philo Beddoe
Footballguy
Which minorities? The African Americans shifting right in record numbers, Hispanic Americans shifting right in record numbers or Asian Americans shifting right in record numbers? Just want to understand which minorities we are talking about here
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dkp993
Footballguy
I don’t want too (and won’t) speak for Shula as he’s more then capable of doing that for himself. But I interpret what he says, and agree with it if it is what he’s saying, that by enlarge our youth are less resilient today. This isn't in reference to minorities and the challenges they may face specifically. But I can tell you firsthand having managed people in their early 20s for over 25 years this current group of people in that age range just aren’t as capable or willing to deal with adversity as any other I’ve dealt with. They fold and give up under the slightest challenge. I know this sounds like the “old man get off my lawn” argument but it’s real and palpable. Imo it’s not hard to figure out why when many of these kids were raised in the generation of participation trophies and parents who didn’t teach them the power of no.
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CletiusMaximus
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GordonGekko said:
You're taking pot-shots based on others posting history, but its seems you have no post history over 2 years and many that remain are edited or deleted during that time period. Most of us remember this handle from at least 10-15 years ago. I think we all know the reason for this, but why don't you explain it yourself?
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
You’re basing your opinion of the work ethic of an entire generation of people on your own anecdotal experience in one job? You’re a smart dude dp, surely you understand how much a reach that is.
dkp993
Footballguy
I think when speaking in generalities about Americans, my anecdotal history across decades and literally 1,000’s of employees (maybe 10’s of), paired with multiple dozens of other people in leadership positions across other fields who I’ve routinely discussed this topic and who share this opinion I have enough data to form my opinion yes. Am I right? Who knows I haven’t launched a study to prove my opinion. But regardless it is an opinion I feel confident in.
The Coddling of the American Mind
This is a very well regarded book. The subject is not really controversial.
rockaction
Footballguy
You know what's funny about that? You could have asked a basketball ignoramus like me, and I would have -- and this is not in retrospect -- have told you Curry was the best player in the draft because of how he completely transformed the court when he played for Davidson. The only thing holding him back, I thought, was his coach. (Remember in the Elite Eight or Sweet Sixteen when they had a last second shot to win and the coach designed a Gene Hackman/Jimmy Chipwood play -- the play before the Hickory Whatevers all dissented and Jimmy goes, "I'll make it, coach" -- to get another guy the ball and they lost?)Frostillicus said:
Sometimes a broken clock is right on time.
Shula-holic
Footballguy
Why are you jumping this over to a racial thing? My comment had nothing to do with race. It does have to do with us being "soft" as a society in my eyes. Dkp actually stated it much better than I did. I'm not really interested in playing a racial gotcha game today.
KiddLattimer
Footballguy
Yes
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
Um, if I'm still alive, and I very well could be, I won't be embarrassed.
GoBirds
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KarmaPolice
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KarmaPolice
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GordonGekko
Footballguy
https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/eric-swalwell-tweets-thread.805881/post-24180956
tommyGunZ Sept 10, 2022
"Exact opposite is true. Swalwell wants nothing to do with violence. Hilarious that you ignore real violence on the right but then try to invent stuff out of thin air on the left."
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Direct Headline: House Democrat Eric Swalwell’s Ad Features Woman Arrested at Gunpoint for Abortion: ‘Elections Have Consequences’ (Video)
Andi Ortiz October 18, 2022
Swalwell premiered the ad on MSNBC....California congressman Eric Swalwell is offering voters a bleak outlook on the future if Republicans take control of the House in the midterm elections. A new digital ad he released this week depicts a family left traumatized when their matriarch is arrested at gunpoint for a previous abortion.... debuted the ad on “The Reid Out” on MSNBC Monday night, which, as Joy Reid explained, “presents one possible chilling outcome of our post-Roe future.”
In the ad...the mother answers the door, the cops explain that they’re there to arrest her for “unlawful termination of a pregnancy.” Though the woman protests that “that is my personal business,” the cops bluntly tell her, “That’s for the courts to decide,” and that her medical records have been subpoenaed and her doctor has already been taken into custody....When one of the officers tells Mary that “you will have to submit to a physical examination” — without explaining who exactly will do that examination — her husband steps up to the men to defend her, prompting the two officers to draw their guns on the family, and chaos erupts....
As the infant cries and the older daughter plugs her ears and hides behind her father, the woman is handcuffed and taken away, with the simple explanation that, “We’re just enforcing the law.” As the action passes, a message pops up saying, “Elections have consequences,” followed by, “Stop Republicans from criminalizing abortion everywhere.”
In explaining the ad to Reid, Rep. Swalwell said ".....but this is going to be the new reality in MAGA America if we do not win the midterms in both the House and Senate.”
https://www.thewrap.com/eric-swalwell-abortion-arrest-political-ad-msnbc-video/
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Big spending on personal security ignites post-Jan. 6 debate over members' budgets
Members of Congress spent hundreds of thousands in campaign funds on security in the first three months of this year.
www.politico.com
"Each congressional office was also given $65,000 in additional funds for security-related expenses this year......In addition to a protective detail in the Capitol, Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) — one of the Democrats’ impeachment managers — spent well over $40,000 this quarter on security...."
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Swalwell is on the House Select Intelligence Committee, the House Committee on Homeland Security and the House Committee on the Judiciary. As such, he rates a security detail from the Capitol Police ( paid with our tax dollars) . In addition to spending up to 120K over the entirety of 2021 for personal security. In addition to the extra HOR 65K allotment post J6 ( Again, our tax dollars). In addition to his House Discretionary Allotment, where many Representatives use it to pay for internal security for their campaigns. (Yes, one more time, our tax dollars) In addition to many in Congress hiring former contractors to jobs with different titles, to form an ad hoc security unit, but to be able to fund them with direct campaign dollars. All while being embroiled by being cooked down by Christine Fang, a CCP spy, whom he shared a bed. And was accused of passing her around to Mayors of Big Blue strongholds. The last committee mentioned, Swalwell had an actual duty to the security and safety of judges. How did that work out when a potential assassin came for SCOTUS Kavanaugh?
So with massive law enforcement staffing shortages around the entire country, mostly from his Party enabling Defund The Police and the looting, rioting and burning of 2020, he decided the best move was to air an ad demonizing law enforcement in total, pointing guns at an unarmed tax paying American family, over abortion. Does that sound like a good idea? But it's probably easier for him to sleep at night being guarded by highly trained armed guards paid with our tax dollars. Does the average citizen have those options? What about those small business owners who were abandoned during the night after night of looting and rioting and their calls to police were ignored by policy from Big Blue Governors and Mayors in 2020?
Do you want to say it again for all of us? Do you want to repeat the statement you made that "Swalwell wants nothing to do with violence"?
GordonGekko
Footballguy
https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...-biden-put-her-in-charge.795341/post-24190988
tommyGunZ Sep 15, 2022
" ....It’s a fact that right wing domestic terrorists are a far bigger terrorist threat than migrants crossing the southern border. If safety was truly the issue, you and your party would be focused on the bigger threats...."
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Direct Headline: Broken Border: Terrorist watch list arrests spike as migrants flock to US from farther countries
By Anna Giaritelli September 20, 2022
....Federal law enforcement agents at the U.S.-Mexico border arrested 78 terrorism watch list suspects for trying to enter the country unlawfully in the 11-month period ending in August, according to Border Patrol data. ...."So far this year, 78 people whose names appear on the Terrorist Screening Dataset were stopped trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border between ports of entry this fiscal year. The Biden admin is playing games with our national security ....."
....Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, policy director for the American Immigration Council in Washington, said authoritarian regimes in Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela refuse to engage with the U.S. and, as a result, will not take back their citizens....The Terrorist Screening Dataset is the government database that lists people believed to be or definitively involved with terrorist groups, as well as people affiliated with known or suspected terrorists. The State Department lists two Colombian groups as foreign terrorist organizations: the Segunda Marquetalia and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia — People’s Army (FARC-EP)....
...The new numbers represent a sharp increase as the Biden administration faces growing pressure to tighten security at the border: Just ....11 were caught in total from 2017 to 2020...
All of the Border Patrol encounters with individuals linked to terror this fiscal year came along the southern border....In addition to the Border Patrol arrests, CBP officers at ports of entry have recorded 342 such encounters, including 279 at the northern border with Canada and 63 at the southern border.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...s-migrants-flock-to-us-from-farther-countries
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/sep/20/surging-number-suspected-terrorists-nabbed-jumping/
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Those FARC terrorists, do you know what they are known for around the world? Launching mass artillery strikes against law enforcement agencies and police stations that oppose them.
ARTILLERY STRIKES.
I do not approve of what happened on J6. I don't see any single Conservative and/or Republican here in the PSF approving of it. But if you want to conflate those 5000 idiots to actual trained and experienced well funded highly organized terrorists whom bombard their enemies with MILITARY GRADE ARTILLERY, then I don't know what to say.
And the 78 were just the illegals who were stopped, what about the countless numbers on the terrorism watch list who got through?
GordonGekko
Footballguy
https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...-biden-put-her-in-charge.795341/post-24191344
tommyGunZ Sep 15, 2022
"Democrats do not support “open borders”. No one is suggesting that is the answer."
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Direct Headline: The Democratic revolt over Biden’s border policy
By Nicole Narea Apr 8, 2022
....A new fissure is emerging among Democrats: After the Biden administration finally ended pandemic-era border restrictions that have allowed the US to expel hundreds of thousands of migrants to Mexico, moderate Democrats rebelled, joining with Republicans in demanding they be reinstated....Many of these moderate Democrats represent swing states and districts and are facing tough races this fall, where they will have to defend against GOP attacks that Democrats are soft on immigration....The restrictions, known as the Title 42 policy, were first enacted by the Trump administration in March 2020 at the outset of the pandemic, and have allowed the US to expel migrants without a hearing more than 1.7 million times.....
....That didn’t stop....Democratic senators — .... Mark Kelly of Arizona....Raphael Warnock of Georgia, and Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire — from joining Republicans in introducing a bill Thursday that would preserve the policy until 60 days after the surgeon general announces the end of the public health emergency related to Covid-19. Or two House Democrats — Reps. Henry Cuellar and Vicente Gonzalez, who represent border districts in Texas — from asking the Biden administration to hold off on ending the policy.....
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23016907/democrat-biden-border-title-42-midterms
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Voters at the Southern Border believe it. Even ones that lean hard Blue in their voting profile.
Otherwise there's no reason for Kelly, Warnock, Hassan, Cuellar and Gonzalez plus two other Blue Senators to flip on the issue. Kelly and Gonzalez are particularly vulnerable for their seats.
Basic Media Optics 101 - You can't keep telling every day working class people something different than what they see with their own two eyes.
Mark Kelly could toe the Party line about the Border Crisis, but the net effect would be that the voters in his district would see that as him calling them all too stupid to see the net catastrophic impact going on daily in their cities, towns and neighborhoods. Kelly can't sell that, so he can't hold the Party mantra anymore.
If, as you say, "Democrats do not support open borders" then why are so many elected Team Blue stalwarts flipping on the issue for the sake of their own political survival? It's the application of a solution to a problem you are claiming doesn't exist. If it didn't exist, then why apply the solution in the first place and risk enraging the core of the establishment Democrats up the food chain and the rest of the Party apparatus?
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