2016: Which NFL franchise is currently the most dysfunctional? (1 Viewer)

[Faust]

Jets' No. 2 quarterback job is wide open and Hackenberg still hasn't played a snap

 

[Phenomena]

Can't vote Browns because they hired a competent coach.

For 2016 it has to be the Chargers.  How do you not get the #3 pick signed, especially over something as stupid as offset language and timing of bonus payment? Epic stupidity.

 

[Faust]

Joey Bosa's holdout puts him in a Chargers' club he didn't really want to join

Excerpt:

You know you’re actually a San Diego Charger when you’re engaged in some tough, drawn-out contract negotiations that keeps you MIA.

Consider prominent members of the holdout club over the years:  LaDainian Tomlinson .  Philip Rivers .  Antonio Gates .  Vincent Jackson . Marcus McNeal.  Eric Weddle .  Corey Liuget .

 

[Milkman]

Yeah i'm thinking Chargers at this point.

 

[Manster]

You could make valid arguments for browns, lions, chargers, and niners

 

[Faust]

That's So Browns: ESPN analytics rates team's chance to win Super Bowl as nil

 

[Faust]

End Around: Browns' sad story must turn ... someday

 

[Nagle2998]

Strangely, the Browns probably have the widest fan base of any NFL team, or at the worst top 3.  There are Brown's backers bars EVERYWHERE, and I mean EVERYWHERE. 

Not saying your wrong because I have no idea but I can honestly say I only met one Browns fans that I can recall and I served in the military for 15 years so I met people from everywhere and I now live in a city that does't have a team so they have fans of every team. If I had to pick the 3 I have seen the most of its probably Dallas, Raiders and Jets. As for Bars of teams if you look around that a lot of teams I'm and Eagles fan and I have found a few Eagles bars in my travels

 

[knowledge dropper]

Shouldn't the Rams start getting consideration?

 

[Faust]

Reggie Wayne blames front office for Colts' struggles

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

3 way suck of Lions, Browns and Chargers.

 

[ghostguy123]

3 way suck of Lions, Browns and Chargers.

Browns.................................next in line.

It's pretty telling that even when things appear to have potential to be heading in the right direction, still 0-4 with top WR entering rehab just this past week. 

 

[Spike]

Why aren't more people thinking it's the Colts?

Their owner makes poor non-NFL decisions (has addiction issues, has the DUI), not only brought back the train wreck combo of Grigson and Pagano but extended their contracts for 4 more years and has shown no building skills with a supremely talented QB in Andrew Luck.

 

[ghostguy123]

Why aren't more people thinking it's the Colts?

Their owner makes poor non-NFL decisions (has addiction issues, has the DUI), not only brought back the train wreck combo of Grigson and Pagano but extended their contracts for 4 more years and has shown no building skills with a supremely talented QB in Andrew Luck.

Dysfunctional yes, but 2-3 tiers below the oil spill that is Cleveland.  

 

[Spike]

Dysfunctional yes, but 2-3 tiers below the oil spill that is Cleveland.  

I answered the Browns in the first poll, the Colts in the second; saw very few who chose the Colts in the second.

 

[kittenmittens]

Tier 1

Browns

Tier 2

49ers

Chargers

Titans

Jags

Tier 3

Dolphins

Colts

Bills

Rams

Tier 4

Lions

Bears

Saints

Redskins

Tier 5 - almost functional

Raiders

Jets

Tier 6 - somehow functional lately

Cowboys

Eagles

Takeaways are...  sorry California and owners matter. 

 

[IHEARTFF]

It's maybe not the Colts, but it's unreal how badly they are run.  Go ahead and luckbox 2 of the best 1.1 QB prospects ever and still not make much of it.  Aren't the Colts basically the Browns without Manning and Luck?

 

[IHEARTFF]

You could make valid arguments for browns, lions, chargers, and niners

And the racists and the colts and the titans and

 

[IHEARTFF]

You could make valid arguments for browns, lions, chargers, and niners

And the racists and the colts and the titans and

the dolphins and the jets and

 

[Dizzy]

Strangely, the Browns probably have the widest fan base of any NFL team, or at the worst top 3.  There are Brown's backers bars EVERYWHERE, and I mean EVERYWHERE. 

You should try leaving Ohio. Yet to see my first Browns Backer Bar.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Every time I think the Browns can't take it to a new level they prove me wrong.

They're still "upping" their game.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Dolphins are lucky the Browns are in the league.

 

[ghostguy123]

Charlie Whitehurst.....................................

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Can't believe I'm the first one in with the Cowboys. Jerry Jones is a mess. Jason Garrett looks like he's about to burst. Dez Bryant is a primadonna. Uh, Greg Hardy? The carousel of QB follies after Romo was hurt (again).

This is supposed to be "America's Team" and they're a joke.

 

[elmanx]

Dolphins easy #2 for me.  I think I misclicked Jets on poll.

They are just run so badly.  And like someone said above, they manage to get the least out of their players (and they've had a lot of good ones over the years) 

 

[Faust]

The good news: ProFootballFocus has Browns almost 50-50 vs. Jets

 

[Faust]

How Colts GM Ryan Grigson wasted away all his Luck

 

[Faust]

Jaguars have no idea why their season is falling apart

 

[CaptainJT]

Jaguars... QB who is getting worse... defense that had tons of $$$ thrown at it in the last year but is as bad as it was... a star WR showing his frustration on the sideline...

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Its amazing how every time you think you have this answer figured out, another team throws their hat in the ring and looks even more dysfunctional. 

 

[Madden Curse]

GO BROWNS!

http://i.imgur.com/tvsKYPF.jpg

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Can't believe I'm the first one in with the Cowboys. Jerry Jones is a mess. Jason Garrett looks like he's about to burst. Dez Bryant is a primadonna. Uh, Greg Hardy? The carousel of QB follies after Romo was hurt (again).

This is supposed to be "America's Team" and they're a joke.

Spot on.

 

[MikeApf]

How Colts GM Ryan Grigson wasted away all his Luck

This.  Throwing away your golden ticket is worse than any of the other "second place dysfunctional teams."  

I actually feel sorry for Andrew Luck...he deserves better.

Remember that thread where folks were speculating whether Brady would be as great if he had been drafted by another team?  We had that discussion at the tail end of Brady's career, after years of success with the Patriots.  Now look at Andrew Luck and imagine into the future.  If he never wins a title, will folks see him as a "great QB?"  In fairness, he has a lot of years left.  

Truly the players reputation is tied to the teams, no matter what anyone says...

 

[Faust]

Could Bama beat the Browns? Not bloody likely

 

[Dizzy]

This.  Throwing away your golden ticket is worse than any of the other "second place dysfunctional teams."  

I actually feel sorry for Andrew Luck...he deserves better.

Remember that thread where folks were speculating whether Brady would be as great if he had been drafted by another team?  We had that discussion at the tail end of Brady's career, after years of success with the Patriots.  Now look at Andrew Luck and imagine into the future.  If he never wins a title, will folks see him as a "great QB?"  In fairness, he has a lot of years left.  

Truly the players reputation is tied to the teams, no matter what anyone says...

I like Andrew Luck, but he never had a chance to live up to the pre-NFL hype, and he will forever be gauged against Peyton Manning.

To me, the offense ran more efficiently with 59-yr old Matt Hasselbeck in there last season. I am just not sure Andrew Luck is as great is we all think he should be. I can't help but wonder if his natural abilities as a thrower will ever allow him to just trust a system and play within it. We've seen it before with top draft QBs possessing golden arms.

Trying not to make this sound like a knock against him, but maybe it is. He just may never be one of those top tier QBs... maybe this is his ceiling.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Rams just pulled neck and neck with the Browns.

 

[ghostguy123]

Rams just pulled neck and neck with the Browns.

From one bad hire eh?  No.  just no.

 

[voiceofunreason]

Rams just pulled neck and neck with the Browns.

Call me crazy but I think the Browns are going to turn it around. Rams are built for the long haul.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

From one bad hire eh?  No.  just no.

No. From an egregious continuation.

At least the Browns look like they're trying to get better. Rams appear satisfied with sub mediocrity.

 

[ghostguy123]

No. From an egregious continuation.

At least the Browns look like they're trying to get better. Rams appear satisfied with sub mediocrity.

Apparently signed before the season.  Still the Browns (was anyway obviously)

 

[irish eyes]

There is no way the Brown's are worse than the pathetic rams. They sign the worst coach in history to an extension..really really.. can't make that sh@@ up

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Rams just pulled neck and neck with the Browns.

From one bad hire eh?  No.  just no.

Yep, just yep. 

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Anyone mention the Texans?  They have to be up there. 

 

[slackjawedyokel]

The Niners are about as bad as it gets. Poor morale, poor ownership, poor management, average coaching, below average drafting at best.

 

[ghostguy123]

There is no way the Brown's are worse than the pathetic rams. They sign the worst coach in history to an extension..really really.. can't make that sh@@ up

Was also reported that the extension was actually done before the season, and Fish might be gone after this year anyway. 

The Rams (even if the sign Fisher to a 50 year extension tomorrow) would not be in the same neighborhood as the Browns.  Maybe not even the same State.

 

[G-King]

Spot on.

Yeah that was coming from a fan of the Bears, a model of dysfunction. But those idiot 11-1 Cowboys really blew it with the draft, ending up with mediocracy in ROY/MVP candidates Dak and Zeke. ? 

Good call nirad3.

On subject though, the Rams resigning the second worst head coach in the league has to be the dysfunction award. Only thing worse would be to fire him and hire Ken Wisenhunt.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Good healthy debate, but when the very poll itself assumes the Browns to be the #1 most dysfunctional team (which I believe is absolutely right), kind of says it all right there, no?

 

[daveR]

As far as true dysfunction goes, I think the Browns are over that hump.  They function at all levels these days, it seems.  The remaining question is the quality of the rebuild.  Are they going to be able elevate the talent level? (Especially on the O-line.   There is a stat that correlates pretty well with draft position: sacks allowed. )

 

[ghostguy123]

As far as true dysfunction goes, I think the Browns are over that hump.  They function at all levels these days, it seems.  The remaining question is the quality of the rebuild.  Are they going to be able elevate the talent level? (Especially on the O-line.   There is a stat that correlates pretty well with draft position: sacks allowed. )

Disagree.  We have absolutely no idea what sort of competence level ANY of the front office or coaching staff or even the players have yet.

This "rebuild" they did was incredibly easy and something that most any front office personnel in history could have pulled off.  The coaches are hard to evaluate because the entire roster is young/inexperienced and/or new to the team/systems.  The players are all hard to evaluate for the same reason.

Even though I am VERY happy they went with the full scale rebuild, there is NOTHING to this point that gives me actual confidence this regime will "get it right" in terms of putting a good team on the field. 

 

[Skoo]

As far as true dysfunction goes, I think the Browns are over that hump.  They function at all levels these days, it seems.  The remaining question is the quality of the rebuild.  Are they going to be able elevate the talent level? (Especially on the O-line.   There is a stat that correlates pretty well with draft position: sacks allowed. )

Not sure how functional you can possibly be at 0-12.