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- Thread starter RC94
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Yeah, that would be some serious GMing in the real world.
ZWK
Footballguy
He would've been the pick if I'd stayed put (over Turner). But I don't love him as much as Nabers, and I liked the value of the trade-down.
Lotta OL available if the mid 1st though.I really think San...uh Los Angeles will take Alt. Harbaugh was just saying they need to pound the ball and that the OL is key.LOVE this pick. I thought Alt would go at 5 or 6. Great value.So far the draft is going exactly how I hope it does.
Ran has taken control in the reset of the titans after deleting the past. Now we’ll get to watch what Callahan sr can do with a potentially lethal, elite left side of the offensive line and give his hopefully franchise QB time to find Ridley and Hopkins, plus pollard and spears time to run.
1.07 the Tennessee Titans take Joe Alt, ND LT.
Bloodlines matter, and Joe will hopefully exceed his dad’s success. With the right coaching, Joe could very well be a perennial pro bowler, and combined with Sko the sky is the limit. The fans in Nashville who understand how bad the OL has been and what it takes to win in the NFL will be thrilled. OL might not be sexy but Alt/Sko truly have me excited.
The greatest fear in this draft is the Chargers taking Alt at 5. Or the jets trading up to get him.
DeJean was a guy I was gonna try and trade up for. He's the best defensive player in the draft in my opinion, though one thing I'll freely admit is being a Big Ten guy.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Versatility was a huge key for me making the pick. I believe he will start Day 1 no matter which team drafts him
I was going to take one of the two DTs if I didn't take Cooper, likely Murphy from Texas
If Miami were going to trade UP, Murphy is one fo the guys I would want on their radar
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Chaos34
Footballguy
Beyond reading some, I plead ignorance on the DB class. That reading is mostly big boards and positional ranking. Dejean, which I was pronouncing dejohn instead of dejeen, is on big boards from pff's 8 to early second rounds. He's in rankings from #1 to as low as 6. I like MoPs pick and travdogg's take. They're not alone but there's many who disagree. Fun thing about this process is people planting a flag like this. Then we have a few years to find out of they were right.
Zow
Footballguy
Okay, so in real life I'm a Vikings fan and was slammed with work today. But, in our fantasy world here in my couple of moments today to pay attention to this. I had two offers that seemed like obvious choices for the Chargers when I consider value and team need that I frantically hit the accept button (i.e. I politely typed that I accepted). To be clear, if Marvin Harrison Jr. fell into my lap at 1.5 assuming the Vikings sold the proverbial farm to get to 1.4, I'd have auto-picked him and not considered offers. Instead, the draft proceeded as expected and I was happy to allow the Vikings (my favorite team in real life) to overpay to get McCarthy at 1.5 and give me some other first round picks to fill in some much needed holes. Then, when I received this offer at 1.9 and was given an opportunity to fill this positional need at a fair price in the standard pick trade value chart, with three (3) players remaining that I believe would really benefit this team - specifically as they all fit the team's need - and be key pieces for years to come, this draft broke perfectly for the Chargers.
Now, I need to spend a couple of minutes trying to predict what may happen at 1.10, so that I can wisely select my top choice here while trying to predict who will be there at 1.11.
Now, I need to spend a couple of minutes trying to predict what may happen at 1.10, so that I can wisely select my top choice here while trying to predict who will be there at 1.11.
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TheWinz
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
Los Angeles Chargers
1.9 WR Rome Odunze
Analysis: After letting Keenan Allen and Mike Williams walk in free agency, and with Quentin Johnston not showing much in his rookie season, WR is the top of some glaring needs for this team. As mentioned above, had Harrison fallen to 1.5 that was an auto-pick but, as expected, he wasn't there and I wasn't willing to sacrifice additional draft capital to move up one spot when both Nabers and Odunze are still on the board. Now, without the Vikings' offer, I would have been happy to gran Nabers at 1.5 and be satisfied that Herbert will have a weapon for years to come, but I couldn't pass up moving down four spots to gain another first and I honestly cannot believe the good fortune that, now, I could turn 1.5 and pick 37 into 1.9 and 1.11 and guarantee that I plug two holes.
I put some effort into trying to predict who the Jets take at 1.10 but after reviewing their mocks and needs I decided I was overthinking it and didn't want to chance another team trading into 1.10 and scooping up Odunze given that I view WR as the biggest need in the draft. As such, I'm playing it safe and grabbing the last of the clear top tier in a loaded WR class. We loved having Keenan Allen and Odunze's main comp is - you guessed it - Keenan Allen. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
1.9 WR Rome Odunze
Analysis: After letting Keenan Allen and Mike Williams walk in free agency, and with Quentin Johnston not showing much in his rookie season, WR is the top of some glaring needs for this team. As mentioned above, had Harrison fallen to 1.5 that was an auto-pick but, as expected, he wasn't there and I wasn't willing to sacrifice additional draft capital to move up one spot when both Nabers and Odunze are still on the board. Now, without the Vikings' offer, I would have been happy to gran Nabers at 1.5 and be satisfied that Herbert will have a weapon for years to come, but I couldn't pass up moving down four spots to gain another first and I honestly cannot believe the good fortune that, now, I could turn 1.5 and pick 37 into 1.9 and 1.11 and guarantee that I plug two holes.
I put some effort into trying to predict who the Jets take at 1.10 but after reviewing their mocks and needs I decided I was overthinking it and didn't want to chance another team trading into 1.10 and scooping up Odunze given that I view WR as the biggest need in the draft. As such, I'm playing it safe and grabbing the last of the clear top tier in a loaded WR class. We loved having Keenan Allen and Odunze's main comp is - you guessed it - Keenan Allen. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
This player's name was kicked around a lot so I'm not influencing anyone's pick.
But I thought you all might see how easy it is to find college stats if you need them or want to take a quick glance
www.sports-reference.com
But I thought you all might see how easy it is to find college stats if you need them or want to take a quick glance
Dallas Turner College Stats, School, Draft, Gamelog, Splits | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
Check out Dallas Turner's College Stats, School, Draft, Gamelog, Splits and More College Stats at Sports-Reference.com
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Yeah I have asked a couple times now if there is a drop off at pick 11 in this draft as far as elite prospects go.
Your comment does kind of reflect that.
This matters for trading for the Vikings as teams may not want to drop that far.
Zow
Footballguy
@mphtrilogy is up for the J-E-T-S.
Zow
Footballguy
From the Chargers' perspective, I absolutely think there's a clear top 11 and that factored heavily in my decisions to accept offers to get me two top-11 picks.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I think Fuaga falls on the good side of that tier. Not familiar with the others though.
Zow
Footballguy
I had McCarthy there in the 11 and not Cooper, but I more so wanted to explain my thinking as if I were the GM and why I jumped on those trade offers if they were not obvious.
ZADO
Footballguy
Fantasy football college style
Chaos34
Footballguy
Round 1
1) Chicago Bears (from Carolina) - QB. Caleb Williams, USC2) Washington Commanders - QB Drake Maye, UNC
3) New England Patriots - QB Jayden Daniels, LSU
4) Arizona Cardinals - Marvin Harrison WR Ohio State
5) Minnesota Vikings (via Los Angeles Chargers) - JJ McCarthy, QB, Michigan
6) New York Giants - WR. Malik Nabers, LSU
7) Tennessee Titans - LT. Joe Alt, ND
8) Atlanta Falcons - Cooper DeJean, CB Iowa
9) Los Angeles Chargers (via Chicago Bears) - WR Rome Odunze
10) Las Vegas Raiders (via New York Jets) - Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon St
11) Los Angeles Chargers (via Minnesota Vikings)
12) Denver Broncos
13) New York Jets (via Las Vegas Raiders)
14) New Orleans Saints
15) Indianapolis Colts
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Not to be that guy, but I'd argue Daniels isn't a top-11 talent either. I feel like both Daniels and McCarthy have a lot of risk for top-5 picks. That said, QB desperation is a hell of a thing, and part of why I'd argue Arizona was always gonna stick with Kyler Murray. He's good, and sometimes really good, and even with a top-5 pick, that's hard to find. Same thing is likely happening in Miami with Tua.
I think the Chargers are winning the draft so far, assuming they do something I like at #11. Trading down and still getting Odunze is a heck of a start.
Zow
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm ready to fire at 1.11 should there be a pick in the next hour but looks like the east coast guy went to bed. I'm an early riser so I'll check first thing tomorrow.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
The Jets are evaluating a trade offer. Stay tuned.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
mphtrilogy
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LawFitz
Footballguy
With the 10th pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, the Las Vegas Raiders select
1.10 Taliese Fuaga, OT - Oregon State
I've read up on all of the top OL in a class that is clearly quite deep, and two guys in particular stand out to me as not just day-one plug-in quality starters, but also (given health), with great potential to become all-pro types at some point in their careers, even very early on, like by the end of their rookie seasons: Joe Alt and Taliese Fuaga.
There are others too, with perhaps similar upside, but none with corresponding super-high floors and/or well-rounded elite pass/run blocking of these two IMO. And others with decent floors, but not nearly the upside. To me, the only thing I would struggle with in placing Fuaga with the elite of the elite prospects would be if my team needed him to play LT, instead of RT. He hasn't done it on the left (yet), and while his pass pro was very solid in college, he may not be ready to protect the blindside on day 1; or ever even, if he has peaked already in terms of his pass-blocking development. Fortunately for the Raiders, they already have a stud LT, who is still early in the prime of his career.
Was it worth trading up three spots and sacrificing a 3rd rounder (getting back a 6th) to do it? Firstly, this guy is an absolute BEAST in terms of run-blocking and physicality - the clear and distant #1 of this OT class in terms of those two aspects. He is not only mean and nasty on the field, but is also a confident alpha leader personality. He is exactly the type of guy Harbaugh and Saleh, and most importantly, Pierce, covet as cornerstone, tone-setting players within the heart of their teams along the OL/DL. As I look at 3rd round vs. 6th round players in this draft, I'd gladly give up that delta in order to make sure the Raiders get Fuaga and perhaps almost as importantly, the Chargers do not.
1.10 Taliese Fuaga, OT - Oregon State
I've read up on all of the top OL in a class that is clearly quite deep, and two guys in particular stand out to me as not just day-one plug-in quality starters, but also (given health), with great potential to become all-pro types at some point in their careers, even very early on, like by the end of their rookie seasons: Joe Alt and Taliese Fuaga.
There are others too, with perhaps similar upside, but none with corresponding super-high floors and/or well-rounded elite pass/run blocking of these two IMO. And others with decent floors, but not nearly the upside. To me, the only thing I would struggle with in placing Fuaga with the elite of the elite prospects would be if my team needed him to play LT, instead of RT. He hasn't done it on the left (yet), and while his pass pro was very solid in college, he may not be ready to protect the blindside on day 1; or ever even, if he has peaked already in terms of his pass-blocking development. Fortunately for the Raiders, they already have a stud LT, who is still early in the prime of his career.
Was it worth trading up three spots and sacrificing a 3rd rounder (getting back a 6th) to do it? Firstly, this guy is an absolute BEAST in terms of run-blocking and physicality - the clear and distant #1 of this OT class in terms of those two aspects. He is not only mean and nasty on the field, but is also a confident alpha leader personality. He is exactly the type of guy Harbaugh and Saleh, and most importantly, Pierce, covet as cornerstone, tone-setting players within the heart of their teams along the OL/DL. As I look at 3rd round vs. 6th round players in this draft, I'd gladly give up that delta in order to make sure the Raiders get Fuaga and perhaps almost as importantly, the Chargers do not.
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Why Fuaga over Latham and Fashanu? Their rankings are close. Is he more day 1 ready than the others?
Zow
Footballguy
Los Angeles Chargers
1.11 TE Brock Bowers
In a good way, there was some disagreement within the organization as we continue to not believe our good fortune in this draft. After our last trade, I looked hard at team need and unfortunately the holes left by my predecessor became even more glaring. Edge, CB, and OL are all very serious needs (along with RB, but that's not a consideration here) and there are two other players very viable for us here to draft. Coach Jim really pushed for Fashanu and, with Bosa and Mack likely gone after this year, I gave a long look at Dallas Turner. At the end of the day though, and even though we signed Dissly and have Parham and Stone under contract, it just never seemed plausible to us that we might be able to get both a top tier WR and Bowers in this draft. We have Odunze and Bowers both in the top 6 of our big board so, in an effort to equip Herbert for years to come with elite pass catchers, I ultimately made the final call to take the most fun pick and best player available to demonstrate commitment to both Herbert and our fans that they'll have something to see and we'll ride out Bosa and Mack for one more year. Now, if we can just keep Herbert upright...
1.11 TE Brock Bowers
In a good way, there was some disagreement within the organization as we continue to not believe our good fortune in this draft. After our last trade, I looked hard at team need and unfortunately the holes left by my predecessor became even more glaring. Edge, CB, and OL are all very serious needs (along with RB, but that's not a consideration here) and there are two other players very viable for us here to draft. Coach Jim really pushed for Fashanu and, with Bosa and Mack likely gone after this year, I gave a long look at Dallas Turner. At the end of the day though, and even though we signed Dissly and have Parham and Stone under contract, it just never seemed plausible to us that we might be able to get both a top tier WR and Bowers in this draft. We have Odunze and Bowers both in the top 6 of our big board so, in an effort to equip Herbert for years to come with elite pass catchers, I ultimately made the final call to take the most fun pick and best player available to demonstrate commitment to both Herbert and our fans that they'll have something to see and we'll ride out Bosa and Mack for one more year. Now, if we can just keep Herbert upright...
TheWinz
Footballguy
There goes Bo Callahan!
TheWinz
Footballguy
Get ready, @smbkrypt24 I will pick very quickly after @mphtrilogy
RC94
Footballguy
@mphtrilogy is up
Zow
Footballguy
He knows, I was messaging with him. He's probably fielding more offers.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
With the extra 3rd rd pick now in hand, The NY Jets are selecting
1.13 - QB: Michael Penix Jr. Washington
Joe D has done a very nice job re-tooling this offensive line. There is a risk of injury for sure and grabbing an O-Lineman here would probably be the safest move, grabbing Bowers earlier at 10 would have also been a nice weapon to add. I do like the potential of 3rd year year TE Ruckert as he has flashed at times and TConklin was one of the few offensive bright spots and should continue to click with Rodgers. Depth at O-Line is a bit of a concern for sure, but the rookie Warren showed promise last year as a potential swing tackle and Max Mitchell is still decent depth. I also think there is a chance they sign Baktari as a backup up to Smith which will allow me to gamble a bit here. There is no position more important than than QB as we saw last year with this team, and allowing Penix to sit and learn for a year or two would set his franchise up for a succession plan they almost never have had.
Hat tip to @RC94 for opening up the QB conversation
1.13 - QB: Michael Penix Jr. Washington
Joe D has done a very nice job re-tooling this offensive line. There is a risk of injury for sure and grabbing an O-Lineman here would probably be the safest move, grabbing Bowers earlier at 10 would have also been a nice weapon to add. I do like the potential of 3rd year year TE Ruckert as he has flashed at times and TConklin was one of the few offensive bright spots and should continue to click with Rodgers. Depth at O-Line is a bit of a concern for sure, but the rookie Warren showed promise last year as a potential swing tackle and Max Mitchell is still decent depth. I also think there is a chance they sign Baktari as a backup up to Smith which will allow me to gamble a bit here. There is no position more important than than QB as we saw last year with this team, and allowing Penix to sit and learn for a year or two would set his franchise up for a succession plan they almost never have had.
Hat tip to @RC94 for opening up the QB conversation
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah holy crap they are winning the draft right here
Bowers can set right into the Allen spot and Rome into the Williams role. Beautiful
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TheWinz
Footballguy
New Orleans Saints select
1.14 - Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State
I didn't think he would make it to 14, but glad he fell. My other consideration was JC Latham. OL was really the only thing I considered, because we need to keep Derek Carr upright. Let's see what we can do with our next pick at 2.45.
1.14 - Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State
I didn't think he would make it to 14, but glad he fell. My other consideration was JC Latham. OL was really the only thing I considered, because we need to keep Derek Carr upright. Let's see what we can do with our next pick at 2.45.
TheWinz
Footballguy
@smbkrypt24 you are OTC
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
I will give it 10-15 minutes to see if there are any other offers and then I will select.
