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Ministry of Pain

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[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]Sometime after last Christmas/holiday season I realized my weight had gotten back up where I am not comfortable. Lot of terrible excuses but the 12-24 months prior were a roller coaster owning and selling a home in Miami and also my ventures into teaching. I thought I was doing the right thing and I cut sugars and carbs, ate a lot of proteins and walked a lot. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]I went from about 265 to around 215/220 but I wasn’t feeling as good as I should for a person who was losing weight and reaching weight levels I hadn’t seen in 20 years...yet I still felt like dogturd and was having terrible bouts with the throne/bathroom, some of this is going to be feces details eventually so if you haven’t eaten this morning, brace yourself.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]The constant constipation and then diarrhea, I went to the doctor for a physical and blood work which I hadn’t really done in a very long time. It rules out Crohns and a couple others but what was disturbing is I was loading up on whole wheat/high insoluble fiber veggies like broccoli and I was still cramping and the pain was almost forcing me bed ridden on certain days. The doctor was going to send me to a GI specialist but she was pretty sure I had what is called IBS or Irritable Bowel Syndrome and there is a definite path to feeling good again but a lot of men don’t like to do what is asked of them...and I wasn’t going to be any different except the pain was so heavy internally that I was open to anything. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]So about 2-3 weeks ago I started a new diet. The term diet has nothing to do with weight loss this time around. It’s a daily gameplan I have to abide by if I don’t want to feel icky in the bathroom the rest of my life. This digestive disorder is crippling in so many ways. It largely goes undiagnosed which causes a lot of frustration and mental anguish, I can’t stress that enough. A lot of folks think it is in your head, well I’m telling you that simply is false. Also many folks think a simple uptick in fiber will help, it can actually make it worse if it isn’t the right type of fiber. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]Once I accepted that this was what I suffered from...then looking at what I would need to do in order to avoid all this. I will share it with you in the hopes it will help some of you, I’m not alone I know that. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]-No red meat and that includes beef and pork...yes all beef and pork gone. MOP had shellshock on this 1st fly over. No dark meat/skin on poultry either.  Why you ask? Because the big trigger I am going to share with you...FAT!!! And MOP has had his brain trained for years to say “Fat doesn’t make you fat” and it really doesn’t however high fat content is an IBS trigger and I am going to share all the triggers I can with you. My diet in general is/was loaded with IBS triggers [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]General rule: High fat content, you will likely get sick. That will translate across the board all the way to the salad dressing in that “healthy” salad you are chowing down. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]-All dairy must go, especially fresh dairy like milk and cream. Ice cream is a trigger, butter, some cheeses especially the american/mozz/swiss types vs a very hard cheese where the dairy is sort of whisked out and leaves a protein of sorts. In general this will get you in all types of trouble if you suffer from IBS. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]-Whole wheat...I eat sourdough bread now, no issues. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]-Alcohol...I know[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]-Coffee...I KNOW!!! I was drinking in excess of 32-64 ounces a day. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]-Soda and carbonated beverages although I do sneak in a light beer or two once or twice a week. When you 86 all the other stuff you can kind of get away with a couple flubs but not much. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]Here is what I do now…[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]-In the morning I basically eat oatmeal with a banana. Bananas have the kind of fiber I need, soluble. This combo has close to 15g in a little bowl. Everything flows better with soluble fiber going into your system early and often. This allows for more insoluble type fibers to be digested after and later in the day. Any veggies with husks and veins and stuff, insoluble. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]-Root based plants are very IBS friendly from the starchy potatos to carrots to turnips and the like, all good stuff. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]-Lunch is Boars Head low sodium turkey breast with mustard, NO MAYO...no egg yolks, they’re a trigger so my splurge of sausage and eggs is gone. Sourdough bread is what I usually put it on. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]Snacks: You won’t like it but rice in general is your best friend. So rice cakes and believe it or not Rice Chex are really easy to get down and so I keep that stuff around and munch on that. Corn Chex are similar, no wheat chex though, absolutely rip me apart. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]Dinner: I bought a rice cooker and so I have brown/white rice and usually a white fish/cod with lemon and herbs I wrap up in tin foil, shove it in oven for 5-10 min at 450/500 and its done. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]Fat free dressing you will actually like...1 part spicy mustard, 1-2 parts honey depending on how sweet you like, ½ part balsamic vinegar, mix up these 3 ingredients and voila, you got salad dressing you could drink it’s so good. I eat my salad at the end of meal after my rice is digested 1st.  [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]Angel food cake with berries for dessert sometimes. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]I don’t want anyone to feel bad for MOP. In a lot of ways it’s a forced healthy eating plan which isn’t the end of the world. It is a challenge to deal with eating a lot more carbs than I am used to but the cutting out of a lot of fats has actually decreased my waist line and pretty quick. People who haven’t seen me in months are asking me if I am sick...imagine that, no one said a word when I was busting out of my pants or clothes but now that I am teetering around 200 lbs(6’2) people are worried I have cancer suddenly, not sure why but I find that funny and a very telling snapshot of people in this country. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]I would guide you to Heathers IBS help or something like that, you google it and you will find it. She has a lot of information and also help that you won't find with a lot of doctors unfortunately. IBS actually is more common in women than men, but I am finding a lot more men suffer from this and go untreated or are afraid of what others will say when they have to announce they can’t be a man anymore and eat red meat. It’s psychological and not in a good way for anyone who used to play a lot of sports or grew up around a lifestyle where you ate burgers and hot dogs on a fairly regular basis. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]Some of you eat this way anyways, perhaps you do suffer from IBS but figured out the triggers at an earlier age. I knew what some of my triggers were but refused to do anything about it. I have not weighed myself(clothes loose) but I have a feeling I might free fall down to 175-185 and at 6-2 that’s gonna be pretty lean. I guess a low fat diet, you can drop weight although that isn’t what you hear in most news outlets I find, everything is low carb high protein/meats. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]There are a lot of other impacts this has. Because I am not in a constant upset bowel state now I typically am a little more calm. My wife has noticed a major change in my overall attitude. I drive us to Asian restaurants more because they have IBS friendly stuff like rice n fish, I guess most Asian based cuisines will work best although you need to be very careful of the sauces, I tend to avoid stir fry in heavy sauces, not gonna be good, stick with the sushi and sushimi. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]Fried foods are an IBS trigger, no wings, fries, any of that stuff. Again it might not sound like fun but this is really the diet many doctors recommend and have been for years but most folks don’t want to listen, yours truly included.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]Basic that won’t get you in trouble: Rice, pasta, oats/oatmeal, white meat turk/chix, fish. [/SIZE][SIZE=14.666666666666666px]I take a pretty good size serving of organic soluble fiber along with peppermint oil caps and also a daily probiotic, everyday.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.666666666666666px]I’m happy to try and answer any questions, feel free to rib me on it if you like but I wanted an entire thread devoted to this, please don't be afraid to ask questions or share anything you might be ailing from in the tummy/GI tract. [/SIZE]

 
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Not much to add MOP, but as someone who has suffered from Crohn's since I was 14 (37 now) I know the struggles.

As you mentioned, oats & rice quickly became my best friends. Along with changing my diet, I can't stress strongly enough how managing stress & getting in shape/exercising play a huge role in my state of remission.   Just wanted to say GL with your future diet and to stick with it!

 
Spanky24 said:
Not much to add MOP, but as someone who has suffered from Crohn's since I was 14 (37 now) I know the struggles.

As you mentioned, oats & rice quickly became my best friends. Along with changing my diet, I can't stress strongly enough how managing stress & getting in shape/exercising play a huge role in my state of remission.   Just wanted to say GL with your future diet and to stick with it!
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At first I stopped walking but I realize that it has just as big an impact if not more when you are getting like 75% of your food from carb based meals like rice n pasta. Half a box of pasta with a little sauce is close to 1,000 calories so you have to be careful on portion control. It;s tough because the fats in meat and the like give you a feeling of fullness. 

 
I'm still in shellshock from the no red meat or pork, I bent the rules a little yesterday, I had 1 slice of pizza from my old neighborhood with sausage and I am paying for it this morning...this is how you know you suffer from this. One thing out of the norm and your system just has fits.

On a side note: I hadn't been in there in some time, they didn't recognize me at first. 

 
JaxBill said:
No pork, no alcohol?

MOP better watch it or Trump might think he's turning Muslim.
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The alcohol is going to be a tough one. I knew Irish Whiskey was making me sick for a long time but since I stopped drinking you can tell when you have hard liquor, it just tears me up inside. I can sip a couple Heineken Lights, they only use 3 ingredients in the whole beer, water being the most noticeable  :D

 
The constipation/diarrhea combo very prominent in IBS creates another problem...hemorrhoids! So if you are using a lot of prep H or have some hard knots protruding out of your ######, you might want to see if that isn't related to some of this. 

 
Wait, you're a teacher?  Please tell me it's some subject like Movie Theatre Etiquette, or How To Overreact To Benign Slights.

 
bananafish said:
And people wonder how I know karma exists...
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Get on your high horse and go for it BF, like I said the other day when you challenged Higgs, your body of work here speaks for itself.  

And like it or not I'm living until I'm 80 now. So you're stuck with MOP a lot longer. 

 
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Thorn said:
well that makes it less funny  :mellow:
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No Thorn, it's still amusing. I'm just saying there is definitely a medical condition that impacts my psyche as it does millions of others who suffer or go untreated. 

I think you are into the Psychology so let me elaborate. As someone with a recent psyche degree I am finding a direct correlation between food and brain, that's probably been around for a good long time so I'm not breaking new ground but I don't see this avenue discussed enough in the media or anywhere frankly. 

I went to see a psyche doctor a couple years ago before I was diagnosed with IBS, I thought it was in my head. The doctor was very straight forward and said there are 2 approaches, one revolves around your diet which most elect to bypass for option 2 which was basically a personality drug of sorts. he said if I ate like a regular human being that a lot of my mood swings would go away...I'm trying to help folks in here, we got a lot of moody blues types, it's not just MOP. 

I don't understand why but the absence of several of these triggers is having an impact not just on my physical well being but also the emotion/psyche triggers. 

 
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I feel for ya man.  I suffered through this from my senior year in high school for about the next decade or so.  It really wrecked my college life.  Was really reluctant to party too much or eat like a college student because I knew I was going to have to pay for it much worse than the typical hangover or stomach ache.  What really sucked was that I was scared to travel because there's nothing like not knowing wtf your bowels are going to do when you don't have reliable access to a bathroom.

Doctors kept telling me it would heal in time and I thought they were BS'ing, but it really did.  Not totally, but it's a million times better now.  I'm sure part of that is that I got a lot healthier and exercise a LOT now, but I think that combined with it naturally fading over time made a big difference.  Don't get me wrong, there are still some trigger foods.  I know if I have a milkshake that I'm not going to #### for the next 3 days, but in general I can eat and live my life without having to worry about it any more so take heed that it will likely get better one day.

 
bananafish said:
I'll take the Pepsi challenge when it comes to comparing "bodies of work" here, Funky Winkerbean. In fact, I can't think of anybody who might lose to you. Lhucks maybe, and even that's a stretch. I don't recall if he was still around when the tournament started, but there's a reason you win. Every. Single. Year.

Think about it dude. You beat people like I'm The Scientist and Eminence running away. A real people's champ.

I wish no ill will in real life to anyone on this board, you included. Good luck with your latest hardship, seriously. Hopefully posting your diet will help some people.

But every time I start to doubt whether karma exists, and it does happen now and then, I'll think of MoP's bowels and rest easy in my convictions.
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Intelligent people discuss ideas

Ignorant and unintelligent folks discuss individuals and level personal attacks/insults. Your track record here is well documented, that's why you don't come in 1st, it has nothing to do with the other stuff you mentioned. 

And the real answer to your jealous "karma" is that I have an equal number of haters and fans so when my name comes up I get all the votes from both sides, it's not a mystery. Whether you love or hate MOP you will keep reading, it's science  ;)

When you're done breathing around in my bowels, do crawl out and get some air, thanks.  

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
No Thorn, it's still amusing. I'm just saying there is definitely a medical condition that impacts my psyche as it does millions of others who suffer or go untreated. 

I think you are into the Psychology so let me elaborate. As someone with a recent psyche degree I am finding a direct correlation between food and brain, that's probably been around for a good long time so I'm not breaking new ground but I don't see this avenue discussed enough in the media or anywhere frankly. 

I went to see a psyche doctor a couple years ago before I was diagnosed with IBS, I thought it was in my head. The doctor was very straight forward and said there are 2 approaches, one revolves around your diet which most elect to bypass for option 2 which was basically a personality drug of sorts. he said if I ate like a regular human being that a lot of my mood swings would go away...I'm trying to help folks in here, we got a lot of moody blues types, it's not just MOP. 

I don't understand why but the absence of several of these triggers is having an impact not just on my physical well being but also the emotion/psyche triggers. 
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*psych

:mellow:  

 
FreeBaGeL said:
I feel for ya man.  I suffered through this from my senior year in high school for about the next decade or so.  It really wrecked my college life.  Was really reluctant to party too much or eat like a college student because I knew I was going to have to pay for it much worse than the typical hangover or stomach ache.  What really sucked was that I was scared to travel because there's nothing like not knowing wtf your bowels are going to do when you don't have reliable access to a bathroom.

Doctors kept telling me it would heal in time and I thought they were BS'ing, but it really did.  Not totally, but it's a million times better now.  I'm sure part of that is that I got a lot healthier and exercise a LOT now, but I think that combined with it naturally fading over time made a big difference.  Don't get me wrong, there are still some trigger foods.  I know if I have a milkshake that I'm not going to #### for the next 3 days, but in general I can eat and live my life without having to worry about it any more so take heed that it will likely get better one day.
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Bingo! This has been me over the last 4-5 years and it makes it impossible to be out fundraising with my wife at events not knowing when an issue is going to rise up. 

The good news is life gets better but you do go thru withdrawal and I can understand why folks on the outside or those even suffering from it refuse to seek help. I knew I had this years ago but thought I could balance it and I can't. 

 
went out with a girl for a few weeks that had IBS. she made it very clear from the outset that the "backdoor" was closed and locked. :sadbanana:

 
I can't live without Metamucil twice a day for my IBS.

 
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Oof.  Sorry to hear this MOP.  I had a bad bout with IBS when I was in college.  The worst incident occurred when I lived abroad in Europe and was visiting the Roman ruins.  One minute I was awestruck, looking at the most amazing thing I had ever laid eyes on, and the next I was keeling over in pain.  I tried to hobble my way to find a bathroom - good luck finding a public can in Rome.  Hated to do it but had no choice - dropped my drawers and made my own version of the Roman ruins - right there in broad daylight.

 
Had my blood drawn today for insurance purposes.

-I have eaten little to no red meat and pork for the last 60+ days. 

-Cholesterol went from 220 to 185 in about 60 days.

-All of the little good and bad cholesterol improves across the board and triglycerides and all that stuff was really good. 

I'm not going to lecture anyone, I should have done this when I was 30 and not waited until I was 42. I do miss my hamburgers but I don't crave steak the way I thought I would. Occasionally I have a slice of pizza with a couple pieces of pepp/saus on it and I usually pay for it a little the next day. 

I have eaten more sweets than I care to admit but my weight is hovering around 210-215 which is a solid 35-50 lbs under what I was carrying for many years...heck more like 75 lbs but whatever. 

My personality has changed a little. People that haven't seen me in a while say I'm a lot more calm. I find that hard to believe. 

Had I not succumb to the IBS I likely would still be way over 250 lbs and not eating right and my cholesterol would be on the rise. I encourage everyone to go get a physical and see your doctor especially if you are over 35-40 years old. I went a long long time other than emergency type visits for most of my adult life. I didn't go for annual physicals and such.  

And I want to thank everyone for their love and support, my issues are nothing compared to some of the hell of other posters here but I wanted to share some good news and also if anyone is having issues and wants to discuss out of the public eye, just hit my PM box. I had 2 different posters reach out to me after reading this thread so I hope I can help anyone who might be suffering. I promise life will get better and you don't have to suffer. The worst is the mental "NO" that you can no longer enjoy certain things but then again you haven't truly been enjoying them for a long time. 

It's not normal to have diarrhea and constipation as the 2 forms of daily output into the toilet. Take action and improve the quality of your life. 

 
I treat myself to a craft beer or two at least once or twice a week at the local craft breweries and I think the freshness of the beer helps. I have little to no side effects and because I am not eating any high fat meat and mostly fish and veggies, a couple beers doesn't do much to impact my waistline negatively. 

The t-shirt exchange and diving into craft beers again actually helped IMO

 
I'm team MoP.  I actually enjoy a lot of his posts on these forums (how else would I know what's going on with the Marlins?)

Good luck bud

 
coyote5 said:
have you tried the potato hack?  It's supposed to cure intestinal issues
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Being Irish, I have always loved my potatoes in just about all forms. I just don't know if eating them 24/7 is the best idea. I like the notion of cleaning your system out or down to just 1 basic food so you know exactly what is in your system. 

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

 
bananafish said:
I'll take the Pepsi challenge when it comes to comparing "bodies of work" here, Funky Winkerbean. In fact, I can't think of anybody who might lose to you. Lhucks maybe, and even that's a stretch. I don't recall if he was still around when the tournament started, but there's a reason you win. Every. Single. Year.

Think about it dude. You beat people like I'm The Scientist and Eminence running away. A real people's champ.

I wish no ill will in real life to anyone on this board, you included. Good luck with your latest hardship, seriously. Hopefully posting your diet will help some people.

But every time I start to doubt whether karma exists, and it does happen now and then, I'll think of MoP's bowels and rest easy in my convictions.
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holy #### a Funky Winkerbean reference

 
Ministry of Pain said:
I'm not going to lecture anyone, I should have done this when I was 30 and not waited until I was 42. I do miss my hamburgers but I don't crave steak the way I thought I would. Occasionally I have a slice of pizza with a couple pieces of pepp/saus on it and I usually pay for it a little the next day. 
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I was wondering about this, if you needed to go 100% or if you would be OK having a burger every once in a while or some pulled pork or something like that. Wonder if that is something that may get better over time. (Everything in moderation, including moderation! ;) )

Glad to hear you are feeling better.

 
Mr. Ected said:
I was wondering about this, if you needed to go 100% or if you would be OK having a burger every once in a while or some pulled pork or something like that. Wonder if that is something that may get better over time. (Everything in moderation, including moderation! ;) )

Glad to hear you are feeling better.
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I take a daily probiotic that runs me about $10-$15 a month, I get it at Wal Mart or Amazon has it. I take a capsule and not the live kind, it takes longer to get the gut working right but then it seems a lot more stable. I absolutely do not eat hamburgers and pulled pork sandwiches, both would likely make me bed ridden at this point. Red meat is going to remain a no no, I push it once every couple weeks with a taste of the pork on the pizza and that lets me know I can't have any more. 

You literally will go thru what you will feel like the next day and you can push the plate away pretty quick. Also can't stress enough about soluable fiber vs insoluable fiber. I have to take a certain amount of the 1st and then I can have some of the 2nd kind. Makes everything work a lot better. 

 
Hey MOP, have you seen the movie called Constipation?

Oh, you haven't?

That's because it hasn't come out yet.

:yawn:

 
Trader Joe's sells a garlic infused olive oil, works very well as a garlic replacement in recipes. Finally can eat pasta sauce again. There is onion or garlic in every can of everything you touch in the sauce section. I make one from scratch very good.

I had a filet mignon  and a cheeseburger this past week because I thought I wa hot #### and could get away with it...oof. Back to chix and fish. People that have not seen me in say 6 months seem a little shocked when they first see me. It's weird. 

 
Started eating a lot of sweet potatoes and I am making a butternut squash soup at least once a week with the already chopped up stuff at WF. Shove it into the Vitamix blender, actually heats it up ready to serve. 

Root veggies are about the best thing for me. Not exciting. But I would rather do this than say fight cancer in a few years which I hope some of the side effects from all this low fat healthier eating is some long term impact as well. 

 
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