You know who else has a rapey past? (1 Viewer)

Baloney Sandwich said:

So the below article has a picture of Prince Andrew with his arm around a then 17 year old Virginia Roberts who is one of the women that has brought this civil suit to court. The third person in the picture is Ghislaine Maxwell, I believe she is the person mentioned but not named in the article previously linked about Clinton and the one that attended the Clinton wedding.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2894911/Andrew-age-sex-slave-Duke-denies-claim-court-papers-teen-picked-sleep-Robert-Maxwell-s-daughter.html

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Though the lawsuit may be bringing up sexual skeleton's from Clinton's past, he has added to the drama of late by posing for a photo with two known prostitutes at a fundraiser in Los Angeles last month.

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Baloney Sandwich said:

So the below article has a picture of Prince Andrew with his arm around a then 17 year old Virginia Roberts who is one of the women that has brought this civil suit to court. The third person in the picture is Ghislaine Maxwell, I believe she is the person mentioned but not named in the article previously linked about Clinton and the one that attended the Clinton wedding.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2894911/Andrew-age-sex-slave-Duke-denies-claim-court-papers-teen-picked-sleep-Robert-Maxwell-s-daughter.html

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In one of her first media appearances in nearly a decade, Juanita Broaddrick, the woman who famously accused Bill Clinton of rape, is now speaking out against Hillary Clinton’s candidacy for president.“Shame on you, Hillary, that’s disgusting,” Broaddrick said of Clinton’s attempt to run for high office in part on women’s issues. “Shame on you, Hillary. It’s time to be truthful,” she added.

Broaddrick was speaking in an interview set to air Sunday night on “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio,” the popular weekend talk radio program. An advanced copy of the audio interview was obtained exclusively by Breitbart.

During the exchange with Klein, the notoriously media-shy Broaddrick accused Clinton of complacency in covering up her husband’s alleged sexual crimes and indiscretions.

“I think she has always known everything about him. I think they have this evil compact between the two of them that they each know what the other does and overlook it. And go right on. And cover one for the other,” she said.

She recalled a personal meeting with Hillary in 1978, in which, Broaddrick believes, the future First Lady strongly implied the alleged rape victim must stay silent about her traumatic experience.

Broaddrick said she “almost died” two months ago when she saw a Clinton campaign ad in which Hillary insisted all women must be sided with if they accuse men of sexual assault.

“You have the right to be heard. You have the right to be believed. We’re with you,” Clinton said in the video, which she addressed to “every survivor of sexual assault.”

Broaddrick responded: “Aaron, the only thing that I would like to say is I hope that someday these two people, these people that I feel like are so evil, will be brought to justice.”

“You know, if I can help in that, I will. But these are not good people for America,” she said of Bill and Hillary.

Broaddrick said she was prompted to speak on Klein’s show after she saw Clinton’s Benghazi testimony last month. The show airs on New York’s AM 970 The Answer and Philadelphia’s NewsTalk 990 AM.

“The only thing that made me consider coming forward again at this time at my age is when I saw her on that Benghazi hearing. Which was really hard to look at. I always turn the channel when either one of them are on TV. But when I saw that look on her face. It was the very same look back in 1978. That lying look.”

Broaddrick said she fears for a Hillary presidency because “she lies. Just like she did in the Bengahzi hearing. She lies. She covers up. Just to imagine her in that position would not be good for America.”

Rape allegations. Bloody lip.

Broaddrick’s story begins when she was a nursing home administrator volunteering for then-Arkansas Attorney General Bill Clinton’s 1978 gubernatorial bid.

She said Clinton singled her out during a campaign stop at her nursing home. “He would just sort of insinuate, you know when you are in Little Rock let’s get together. Let’s talk about the industry. Let’s talk about the needs of the nursing homes and I was very excited about that.”

Broaddrick said she finally took Clinton up on that offer in the spring of 1978 when she traveled to Little Rock for an industry convention along with her friend and nursing employee Norma Rogers. The two shared a room at the city’s Camelot Hotel.

Broaddrick phoned Clinton’s campaign headquarters to inform her of her arrival and was told by a receptionist that Clinton had left instructions for her to reach him at his private apartment.

“I called his apartment and he answered,” she recounted. “And he said ‘Well, why don’t we meet in the Camelot Hotel coffee room and we can get together there and talk. And I said ‘That would be fine.’”

Clinton then changed the meeting location from the hotel coffee shop to Broaddrick’s room.

“A time later and I’m not sure how long it was, he called my room, which he said he would do when he got to the coffee shop. And he said ‘There are too many people down here. It’s too crowded. There’s reporters and can we just meet in your room?’”

“And it sort of took me back a little bit, Aaron,” she said of Clinton’s request.

“But I did say okay, I’ll order coffee to the room, which I did and that’s when things sort of got out of hand. And it was very unexpected. It was, you might even say, brutal. With the biting of my lip.”

Broaddrick said she did not want to rehash the alleged rape scene, explaining those painful details are fully available in previous news reports.

She told NBC’s Dateline in 1999 that she resisted when Clinton suddenly kissed her:

Then he tries to kiss me again. And the second time he tries to kiss me he starts biting my lip … He starts to, um, bite on my top lip and I tried to pull away from him. And then he forces me down on the bed. And I just was very frightened, and I tried to get away from him and I told him ‘No,’ that I didn’t want this to happen but he wouldn’t listen to me. … It was a real panicky, panicky situation. I was even to the point where I was getting very noisy, you know, yelling to ‘Please stop.’ And that’s when he pressed down on my right shoulder and he would bite my lip. … When everything was over with, he got up and straightened himself, and I was crying at the moment and he walks to the door, and calmly puts on his sunglasses. And before he goes out the door he says ‘You better get some ice on that.’ And he turned and went out the door.”
In the interview with Klein, Broaddrick recounted the aftermath of the incident, when her friend Rogers came back to the room after Broaddrick failed to show up to the convention.

“I was in a state of shock afterwards,” an emotional Broaddrick said, clearly still impacted by the event. “And I know my nurse came back to the room to check on me because she hadn’t heard from me …She came up and it was devastating to her and to me to find me in the condition that I was in.”

“We really did not know what to do. We sat and talked and she got ice for my mouth. …It was four times the size that it should be. And she got ice for me and we decided then I just wanted to go home. I just wanted to get out of there, which we did.”

The detail about Clinton allegedly biting her lip is instructive. One woman who would later say she had a consensual affair with Clinton, former Miss America pageant winner Elizabeth Ward Gracen, would also reveal Clinton bit her lip when a tryst became rough.

Hillary encounter: ‘She knew!’

Broaddrick initially said that she shouldered the blame since she allowed Clinton up to her room.

Three weeks after the incident, Broaddrick says she was still in a state of shock and denial about what she said had transpired. She said she attended a private Clinton fundraiser at the home of a local dentist, where she had an encounter with the Clintons and was directly approached by Hillary.

Broaddrick said a friend of hers who had driven the Clintons to the fundraiser from a local airport informed her that “the whole conversation was about you coming from the airport. Mostly from Mrs. Clinton.”

She recalled: “And so then about that time, I see them coming through the kitchen area. And some people there are pointing to me. He goes one direction and she comes directly to me. Then panic sort of starting to set in with me. And I thought, ‘Oh my God, what do I do now?’”

Broaddrick told Klein that Hillary approached her “and said ‘It’s so nice to meet you’ and all of the niceties she was trying to say at the time.”

“And said, ‘I just want you to know how much Bill and I appreciate the things you do for him.’ And I just stood there, Aaron. I was sort of you might say shell-shocked.”

“And she said, ‘Do you understand. Everything you do.’’’

“She tried to take a hold of my hand and I left. I told the girls I can’t take this. I’m leaving. So I immediately left.”

Broaddrick said that “what really went through my mind at that time is ‘She knows. She knew. She’s covering it up and she expects me to do the very same thing.’”

‘I felt responsible until Bill came back’

Broaddrick said the climate of women’s issues in 1978 was such that “I felt responsible. I don’t know if you know the mentality of women and men at that time. But me letting him come to my room? I accepted full blame.”

“And I thought ‘This is your fault and you have to bear this. There’s nothing you can do. He’s the attorney general. And this is your fault.’””

She said all that changed in 1991, when she said she was at a meeting at the Riverfront Hotel in Little Rock and Clinton approached her there.

Clinton found out she was at the hotel “and they called me out of the meeting and pointed to an area to go down around the corner by an elevator area. And I walked around the corner and there he stands.”

“And he immediately comes over to me with this gushing apology. Like, ‘I’m so sorry for what happened. I hope you can forgive me. I’m a family man now. I have a daughter. I’m a changed man. I would never do anything like that again.’”

Broaddrick said she thought Clinton was sincere until he announced his run for president the following week.

“But still I have to thank him for that day because the blame then went off of me and on to him. And I knew that it wasn’t my fault. I knew that I didn’t use good judgement but I knew that the incident was no longer my fault.”

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Nugget said:

Bill is on campus today. Not sure if the students are protesting his visit or not.

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In one of her first media appearances in nearly a decade, Juanita Broaddrick, the woman who famously accused Bill Clinton of rape, is now speaking out against Hillary Clinton’s candidacy for president....Rape allegations. Bloody lip.

Broaddrick’s story begins when she was a nursing home administrator volunteering for then-Arkansas Attorney General Bill Clinton’s 1978 gubernatorial bid.

She said Clinton singled her out during a campaign stop at her nursing home. “He would just sort of insinuate, you know when you are in Little Rock let’s get together. Let’s talk about the industry. Let’s talk about the needs of the nursing homes and I was very excited about that.”

Broaddrick said she finally took Clinton up on that offer in the spring of 1978 when she traveled to Little Rock for an industry convention along with her friend and nursing employee Norma Rogers. The two shared a room at the city’s Camelot Hotel.

Broaddrick phoned Clinton’s campaign headquarters to inform her of her arrival and was told by a receptionist that Clinton had left instructions for her to reach him at his private apartment.

“I called his apartment and he answered,” she recounted. “And he said ‘Well, why don’t we meet in the Camelot Hotel coffee room and we can get together there and talk. And I said ‘That would be fine.’”

Clinton then changed the meeting location from the hotel coffee shop to Broaddrick’s room.

“A time later and I’m not sure how long it was, he called my room, which he said he would do when he got to the coffee shop. And he said ‘There are too many people down here. It’s too crowded. There’s reporters and can we just meet in your room?’”

“And it sort of took me back a little bit, Aaron,” she said of Clinton’s request.

“But I did say okay, I’ll order coffee to the room, which I did and that’s when things sort of got out of hand. And it was very unexpected. It was, you might even say, brutal. With the biting of my lip.”

Broaddrick said she did not want to rehash the alleged rape scene, explaining those painful details are fully available in previous news reports.

She told NBC’s Dateline in 1999 that she resisted when Clinton suddenly kissed her:

In the interview with Klein, Broaddrick recounted the aftermath of the incident, when her friend Rogers came back to the room after Broaddrick failed to show up to the convention.

Then he tries to kiss me again. And the second time he tries to kiss me he starts biting my lip … He starts to, um, bite on my top lip and I tried to pull away from him. And then he forces me down on the bed. And I just was very frightened, and I tried to get away from him and I told him ‘No,’ that I didn’t want this to happen but he wouldn’t listen to me. … It was a real panicky, panicky situation. I was even to the point where I was getting very noisy, you know, yelling to ‘Please stop.’ And that’s when he pressed down on my right shoulder and he would bite my lip. … When everything was over with, he got up and straightened himself, and I was crying at the moment and he walks to the door, and calmly puts on his sunglasses. And before he goes out the door he says ‘You better get some ice on that.’ And he turned and went out the door.”

“I was in a state of shock afterwards,” an emotional Broaddrick said, clearly still impacted by the event. “And I know my nurse came back to the room to check on me because she hadn’t heard from me …She came up and it was devastating to her and to me to find me in the condition that I was in.”

“We really did not know what to do. We sat and talked and she got ice for my mouth. …It was four times the size that it should be. And she got ice for me and we decided then I just wanted to go home. I just wanted to get out of there, which we did.”

The detail about Clinton allegedly biting her lip is instructive. One woman who would later say she had a consensual affair with Clinton, former Miss America pageant winner Elizabeth Ward Gracen, would also reveal Clinton bit her lip when a tryst became rough.

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The cost and benefit of Karen HintonWhen Mayor Bill de Blasio’s new press secretary was 28, she told a Washington Post reporter her mom was afraid she’d “bring home a black man.”

"I didn't have really progressive parents," Karen Hinton told the journalist in 1986, during an interview at a “a bleak but friendly tavern” in Greenville, Mississippi, Hinton’s home state.

She ended up bringing home a New York Jew instead: Howard Glaser, who, like Hinton, Bill de Blasio, and Andrew Cuomo, worked in President Bill Clinton’s housing department.

“Karen’s first husband was Catholic and so he kind of paved the way,” said Glaser. “It was kind of like Jew-lite.”

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Hinton’s role in all of this is not that of an innocent caught unwittingly in the klieg lights. Her husband was Cuomo's longtime state operations director, and her defection to de Blasio helped energize the drama.

"The governor, who prizes loyalty, was surprised by [Hinton's] appointment, and irritated that a person he had considered part of his inner circle was headed to work for a rival," according to the New York Times.

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“Why doesn’t it matter that we have a president who walks into a room and sees an attractive woman and proceeds to hit on her without any concern how that woman might feel about it?” she asked Michael Isikoff for his book Uncovering Clinton.

Hinton spoke from experience.

In 1984, when she was 26 years old and working in Mississippi politics, she met the Arkansas governor at a restaurant following a Greenville fund-raiser.

“When he was introduced to Hinton, Clinton stared at her, eyed her from head to legs, and instantly made her uncomfortable,” Isikoff wrote.

Then Clinton invited Hinton and her colleagues to join them for dinner. He sat beside her and “dazzled” her with policy talk. Then he slipped her a napkin with his Holiday Inn room number on it.

“Here I’d been talking to him for all this time, thinking he was interested in what I had to say and all he’s thinking of is how could he get his hand up my dress,” she told Isikoff. She felt “a bit humiliated.”

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And then the second time was when he [state trooper Ferguson] come to hand me a note and tell me that the governor wanted to meet with me and on the note was a four-digit number. I remember looking at it. He said, "The governor" – I don't know if he used the word Bill or the governor – "wants to meet with you in this room number."

I said, "What for? What does he want to meet with me for?" And I was excited, though. You know, but I thought why would he want to meet with me? And I asked him that question as well as I voiced it to Pam.

And he said, "It's okay. We do this all the time."

And so then when – he left – I said, "Well, I'll think about it for a while."

Discussed it with Pam. She said, "Good, maybe we can find a job. You know, maybe we can get a better job." And I'm not stupid, yeah, I was going to go up there and see if I could maybe get another job or find a way to put applications to better myself and to get another job, a higher-paying job. And I thought maybe I could help my friend out and stuff. And I was excited to meet the governor. So Pam said, "Now you go up there, I'm going to watch the desk and everything, but don't stay too long." That's why I know I was not up there longer than maybe, you know, 10 minutes at the most, up in the room itself, because Pam didn't want me to be gone very long either because she didn't want to get in trouble and have to explain to somebody where I was.

That was the conversation that me and Ferguson had had. And then when he come back to see if I was going to go up there and then me and Pam had decided, yeah, I'll go up there and then me and Pam had decided, yeah, I'll go up there. So then he escorted me up and around the corner and up the elevator.

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Gracen said the encounter took place in 1983, the year after her reign as Miss America, in an apartment at the Quapaw Tower in Little Rock.

She was 22, married and studying acting in New York, but traveled to her home state to attend a benefit and film a public service announcement.

She said she ran into Clinton, whom she had previously met socially. He offered her a lift back to Little Rock in his limousine, along with at least five other people. Gracen said she and the married governor flirted during the ride. A few days later, she met him at the hotel for an evening rendezvous.

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In an exclusive interview, Gracen told the New York Daily News: In the aftermath of the Gennifer Flowers scandal, Clinton's campaign asked Gracen to issue a statement in May 1992 denying she had had sex with Clinton. Gracen, who complied, insisted she was not pressured or cajoled into making the statement.

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``I had sex with Bill Clinton, but the important part to me is that I was never pressured,'' she said. ``We had an intimate evening. Nothing was ever forced. It was completely consensual.''

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A former friend of Gracen's, Judy Stokes, has given a sworn deposition in the Jones case saying Gracen tearfully told her in the mid-1980s that Clinton forced her into sex in the back of a limousine in 1982.

``That never happened. It's completely false,'' Gracen said. ``I never told her that Bill Clinton pressured me or harassed me. I don't know why she said that. It baffles me.''

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johnnycakes said:

Sure... a year ago last November, the guy who raped my daughter was convicted and sentenced to 3 years. Only got 3 years because he was like 18 at the time and the judge had read some stuff that indicated the kid's brain may not have been fully developed by that age.

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The lovely lady sharing a crew jumpseat with Bill Clinton is Debra Schiff, who followed Bill Clinton off of the airplane and into the White House, where she is now the White House receptionist.

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SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok WTH - is that a real picture of Bill with his hand placed up-leg?

The lovely lady sharing a crew jumpseat with Bill Clinton is Debra Schiff, who followed Bill Clinton off of the airplane and into the White House, where she is now the White House receptionist.

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http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/milehigh.html

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All items from the National Enquirer

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squistion said:

SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok WTH - is that a real picture of Bill with his hand placed up-leg?

The lovely lady sharing a crew jumpseat with Bill Clinton is Debra Schiff, who followed Bill Clinton off of the airplane and into the White House, where she is now the White House receptionist.

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You sources are getting more credible:

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McGarnicle said:

Everyone knows Clinton was/is a whoremonger. This will have zero impact with anyone who would vote for Hillary.

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8. Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run.

9. Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault.

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SaintsInDome2006 said:

squistion said:

SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok WTH - is that a real picture of Bill with his hand placed up-leg?

The lovely lady sharing a crew jumpseat with Bill Clinton is Debra Schiff, who followed Bill Clinton off of the airplane and into the White House, where she is now the White House receptionist.

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http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/milehigh.html

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You sources are getting more credible:

All items from the National Enquirer

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That's why I asked if it was real. You think it's doctored, then, yes?

Some of the allegations in the OP are somewhat difficult to turn up in original source reports.

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Here is the affidavit of Dolly Kyle Browning:

DECLARATION OF DOLLY KYLE BROWNING

My name is Dolly Kyle Browning. I am over twenty-one years of age and I am fully competent to make this declaration.

1. I have known William Jefferson Clinton since I was eleven years old. I call him "Billy." We attended high school together. During the period from the mid-1970's until January 1992, we had a relationship that included sexual relations. The frequency of our contact with each other, and the frequency of our sexual encounters, varied over that time period, but we did have sexual relations many times during that time period.

2. Our relationship ended abruptly in January of 1992 when Billy would not return my telephone call. I told his secretary, Linda, that a tabloid had the story about me and Billy. I asked her to have him call me and he refused. Instead he had my brother, who was, at that time, working in the 1992 Clinton presidential campaign, call me from Billy's New Hampshire apartment or office. My brother said that Billy was afraid to talk to me because everyone thought that I might record the conversation as Gennifer Flowers had done. He said "we" think you should deny the story. He finally said: "if you cooperate with the media we will destroy you."

3. The next time I spoke with Billy was at our high school reunion in 1994. At that reunion he and I had a conversation that lasted approximately 45 minutes At the reunion, but prior to our conversation, I had avoided contact with Billy. He approached me sometime around midnight. He greeted me, saying "how are you?" I responded: "You are such an ###-hole, I can't believe you'd even bother to ask!" When I said "###-hole" a Secret Service Agent reached to grab me. Billy physically blocked the agent's arm and said "it's alright" or words to that effect. He said "we have to talk." During this conversation, we sat in two chairs in front of a large column in the ballroom where our reunion dance was being held. There were several hundred other people in the ballroom. Dance music was playing almost continuously during our conversation. During our conversation our faces were close together. We were speaking in a volume that was only just loud enough to hear each other over the background noise. The only people within at least six feet of us during our conversation were two male Secret Service agents. At one point a Caucasian woman whom I do not know interrupted us and told Billy that the party was over, they were closing the bar and that he needed to say good bye to some people. Billy said to tell them to keep the bar open. She asked: "who is going to pay for that?" He replied: "we will." The entire exchange with this unknown woman lasted less than one minute. She then left our presence. The Secret Service agents were standing one on each side of us so that we, Billy, the agents and I, were effectively in a row with an agent at either end. There was one agent approximately one foot from me and a second agent approximately one foot from Billy.

4. Our conversation began with my confronting him for not returning my call in early 1992. This lead to a discussion of many things, including his affair with Gennifer Flowers. I reminded him that he had threatened to destroy me and he said he was sorry. We discussed many other things. At the end of the conversation he asked me to come to Washington. He said "You can live on the hill. I can help you find a job."

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8. In the fall of 1994, through the intermediaries of Dorcy Kyle Corbin and Bruce Lindsey, Billy and I reached a "deal." The "deal" was that I agreed not to tell the true story about our relationship if he would not tell any lies about me. I agreed not to use, in public, the "A words" which were defined as "adultery" and "affair." I was allowed to say that we had a thirty-three year relationship that, from time to time, included sex. If I needed to contact Billy, I would call Dorcy and she would call Bruce Lindsey. I used this method of communication several times over the years.

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McGarnicle said:

Everyone knows Clinton was/is a whoremonger. This will have zero impact with anyone who would vote for Hillary.

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Zero? You sure about that? It took Bill Cosby's skeletons a while to catch up... And in today's climate, especially as Hillary is setting herself up as the champion of woman's issues this could come back to bite her.

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sublimeone said:

McGarnicle said:

Everyone knows Clinton was/is a whoremonger. This will have zero impact with anyone who would vote for Hillary.

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Zero? You sure about that? It took Bill Cosby's skeletons a while to catch up... And in today's climate, especially as Hillary is setting herself up as the champion of woman's issues this could come back to bite her.

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Binky The Doormat said:

The Truth About Hillary book.

Probably more of a tabloid deal, but should be good entertainment.

I've been told by home grown Little Rock friends that Hillary had her own dalliances as well around here.

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Page 110: Klein writes that Hillary and her Deputy Chief of Staff Evelyn Lieberman allowed Bill to keep a number of mistresses on the White House staff. Klein repeats the characteristically sketchy claim of a "high-level White House staffer" who tells him that "the assumption among the women in the White House was that Bill took [one staffer] on political trips and that she stayed with him in his hotel room."

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Page 106: Klein reports that Monica and Bill were able to begin their affair during the 1995 federal government shutdown because a short-staffed Hillary couldn't keep an eye on him. "During this time," a White House source tells Klein, "Bill Clinton was wandering around the White House unchecked. ... Normally, when Hillary's people were there, the President wasn't allowed to wander."

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SaintsInDome2006 said:

It was all Newt's fault:

Page 106: Klein reports that Monica and Bill were able to begin their affair during the 1995 federal government shutdown because a short-staffed Hillary couldn't keep an eye on him. "During this time," a White House source tells Klein, "Bill Clinton was wandering around the White House unchecked. ... Normally, when Hillary's people were there, the President wasn't allowed to wander."

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McGarnicle said:

sublimeone said:

McGarnicle said:

Everyone knows Clinton was/is a whoremonger. This will have zero impact with anyone who would vote for Hillary.

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Zero? You sure about that? It took Bill Cosby's skeletons a while to catch up... And in today's climate, especially as Hillary is setting herself up as the champion of woman's issues this could come back to bite her.

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It certainly should be an enormous factor, but I'm not convinced it will be for three reasons.1. If the primaries are today, her opponent is Donald Trump. Think about that. Imagine you had to pick from two people and Trump is one and I won't tell you who the other one is. Your decision crowns the new POTUS. You sweat for a second and I say okay it's Hillary. Contemplate how you'd feel in that second. I still believe the majority of Americans aren't that stupid and will recognize Trump is a dangerous nutjob fascist and will reject him as such.

2. If this country makes him the GOP frontrunner for all these months, I'm not convinced they would make the rational decision on Hillary's husband being a rapist.

3. The liberal media. The rape culture bs is typically shoveled by them, and they control the narrative on such things. Trump has become a powerful force, so switching off of Hillary looks like a dangerous proposition when you consider Biden dropped out and next guy up is Sanders. Anyone after that has a lot of catching up to do.

I recognize 1 and 2 are slightly contradictory but 3 is very often the tiebreaker in these matters.

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sublimeone said:

McGarnicle said:

sublimeone said:

McGarnicle said:

Everyone knows Clinton was/is a whoremonger. This will have zero impact with anyone who would vote for Hillary.

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Zero? You sure about that? It took Bill Cosby's skeletons a while to catch up... And in today's climate, especially as Hillary is setting herself up as the champion of woman's issues this could come back to bite her.

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It certainly should be an enormous factor, but I'm not convinced it will be for three reasons.1. If the primaries are today, her opponent is Donald Trump. Think about that. Imagine you had to pick from two people and Trump is one and I won't tell you who the other one is. Your decision crowns the new POTUS. You sweat for a second and I say okay it's Hillary. Contemplate how you'd feel in that second. I still believe the majority of Americans aren't that stupid and will recognize Trump is a dangerous nutjob fascist and will reject him as such.

2. If this country makes him the GOP frontrunner for all these months, I'm not convinced they would make the rational decision on Hillary's husband being a rapist.

3. The liberal media. The rape culture bs is typically shoveled by them, and they control the narrative on such things. Trump has become a powerful force, so switching off of Hillary looks like a dangerous proposition when you consider Biden dropped out and next guy up is Sanders. Anyone after that has a lot of catching up to do.

I recognize 1 and 2 are slightly contradictory but 3 is very often the tiebreaker in these matters.

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Look, this is not going to sway Hillary supporters to vote for Trump. But it can have an effect on voter enthusiasm and voter turnout. Hillary is really going to be counting on the female vote turning out... just like Obama was catapulted by unprecedented black voter turnout.

With this stuff creeping in the background it makes it much harder for Hillary to attack Trump. Or Trump can use this to go on the offensive. "Hillary, you claim to be for women's issues but you sat by idly while your husband used his power to abuse women for years."

When we are talking about 2-3% being the difference in an election things like voter turnout are huge. If the republican nominee can effectively cast a narrative that Hillary is a phoney when it comes to women issues it could have en effect.

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SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok WTH - is that a real picture of Bill with his hand placed up-leg?

The lovely lady sharing a crew jumpseat with Bill Clinton is Debra Schiff, who followed Bill Clinton off of the airplane and into the White House, where she is now the White House receptionist.

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http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/milehigh.html

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You sources are getting more credible:

All items from the National Enquirer

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SaintsInDome2006 said:

It was all Newt's fault:

Page 106: Klein reports that Monica and Bill were able to begin their affair during the 1995 federal government shutdown because a short-staffed Hillary couldn't keep an eye on him. "During this time," a White House source tells Klein, "Bill Clinton was wandering around the White House unchecked. ... Normally, when Hillary's people were there, the President wasn't allowed to wander."

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Hang 10 said:

squistion said:

SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok WTH - is that a real picture of Bill with his hand placed up-leg?

The lovely lady sharing a crew jumpseat with Bill Clinton is Debra Schiff, who followed Bill Clinton off of the airplane and into the White House, where she is now the White House receptionist.

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http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/milehigh.html

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You sources are getting more credible:

All items from the National Enquirer

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Didn't the national enquirer break the John Edwards story?

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AnonymousBob said:

SaintsInDome2006 said:

It was all Newt's fault:

Page 106: Klein reports that Monica and Bill were able to begin their affair during the 1995 federal government shutdown because a short-staffed Hillary couldn't keep an eye on him. "During this time," a White House source tells Klein, "Bill Clinton was wandering around the White House unchecked. ... Normally, when Hillary's people were there, the President wasn't allowed to wander."

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I'll say everything seems rather damning against Bill and he looks like a scumbag if allegations are true, but this one story (as opposed to many of the others) makes Hillary look pretty good. If she can control the leader of the free world in his own house, she might me able to take on the world itself.

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squistion said:

Hang 10 said:

squistion said:

SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok WTH - is that a real picture of Bill with his hand placed up-leg?

The lovely lady sharing a crew jumpseat with Bill Clinton is Debra Schiff, who followed Bill Clinton off of the airplane and into the White House, where she is now the White House receptionist.

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http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/milehigh.html

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You sources are getting more credible:

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Didn't the national enquirer break the John Edwards story?

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Even a blind squirrel...

Yes, they broke the Edwards story but their track record was so horrible before that, that at the time they came out with this scoop, it wasn't really taken that seriously. It could be they were right again here, but one generally won't go broke betting against the accuracy of any NE story.

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Frank Sinatra Asked The Mob To Whack Woody Allen

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McGarnicle said:

Everyone knows Clinton was/is a whoremonger. This will have zero impact with anyone who would vote for Hillary.

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Zero? You sure about that? It took Bill Cosby's skeletons a while to catch up... And in today's climate, especially as Hillary is setting herself up as the champion of woman's issues this could come back to bite her.

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General Malaise said:

If Bill Clinton raped all these women, prosecute and lock him up for good. What are we waiting for? Darren Sharper sits in prison. What's the hold-up with Bill if we have all this slam dunk evidence? Press charges and let's go to trial.

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STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

Thats a whole lotta rape.

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Someone else will have to do that one.

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General Malaise said:

If Bill Clinton raped all these women, prosecute and lock him up for good. What are we waiting for? Darren Sharper sits in prison. What's the hold-up with Bill if we have all this slam dunk evidence? Press charges and let's go to trial.

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http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/12/28/in-their-own-words-why-bills-bimbos-fear-a-hillary-presidency/

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General Malaise said:

If Bill Clinton raped all these women, prosecute and lock him up for good. What are we waiting for? Darren Sharper sits in prison. What's the hold-up with Bill if we have all this slam dunk evidence? Press charges and let's go to trial.

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avoiding injuries said:

Interviews like this will continue to bring Trump support.

Being interviewed on NBC this morning the host referred to clinton's affair with lewinsky as "alleged".

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nbc-host-calls-bill-clintons-affair-with-lewinsky-alleged/article/2579210?custom_click=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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Trump is right: Bill Clinton’s sordid sexual history is fair gameDonald Trump is crude and vulgar. He’s every “-ist” in the book: racist, sexist, narcissist, for starters. His dis about Hillary Clinton getting “schlonged” in the 2008 campaign and the accompanying tirade about her “disgusting” bathroom break were weird and juvenile. But he has a point about Clinton playing the “woman’s card,” and about the male behavior that’s more concerning: her husband’s.

Was there a sexist undertone to Trump’s “schlonged” comment? I guess, since we know which Democratic candidate does and doesn’t have one. Still, as sexism goes, this feels awfully mild.

“I think he has to answer for what he says, and I assume that others will make the larger point about his language,” Clinton told t he Des Moines Register. “It’s not the first time he’s demonstrated a penchant for sexism.”

True, but Clinton’s attempt at outsourced outrage has the air of a basketball player flopping on the floor for the benefit of the ref. Nothing would make the Clinton campaign happier than some good old-fashioned male chauvinist piggery directed her way — all the better to rile up female voters who seem surprisingly nonchalant about the prospect of electing the first female president.

We’ve seen this playbook before. During her first Senate race in 2000, when Clinton’s Republican opponent, Rick Lazio, invaded her personal space in a debate. During the 2008 presidential campaign, when Clinton surrogates complained that male opponents were “piling on” the then-front-runner, and the campaign posted a video on its website called “The Politics of Pile On.”

Sure, that campaign featured ugly incidents, proteste rs yelling “iron my shirt” at the female candidate and that notorious Hillary nutcracker. There were moments in which Clinton’s male opponents demonstrated their cluelessness about how to run against a woman; recall then-Sen. Barack Obama’s “likable enough” moment and John Edwards’s ham-handed comment on Clinton’s pink jacket. But it wasn’t misogyny that doomed Clinton back then.

And we’ve seen this tactic earlier this campaign, when Clinton allies tried to turn Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I-Vt.) observation about how “all the shouting in the world” would not solve the problem of gun violence into a sexist effort to quiet his opponent.

“Well, first of all, I’m not shouting,” Clinton responded. “It’s just when women talk, some people think we’re shouting.”

Into this gender minefield lumbers Trump, characteristically unbound and deploying a weapon that none of Clinton’s Democratic opponents, past or present, has dared to mention. He played the Bill Card.

“Hillary Clinton has announced that she is letting her husband out to campaign but HE’S DEMONSTRATED A PENCHANT FOR SEXISM, so inappropriate! ” Trump tweeted on Saturday.

He followed up the next day on “Fox and Friends Weekend,” accusing Clinton of playing the “woman’s card” and declaring her husband “fair game because his presidency was really considered to be very troubled, to put it mildly, because of all the things that she’s talking to me about.” Trump, typically delighted with himself, pointed out, “I turned her exact words against her.”

And again, Monday morning. “If Hillary thinks she can unleash her husband, with his terrible record of women abuse, while playing the women’s card on me, she’s wrong!”

Well, Bill Clinton has a penchant for something. He had a successful presidency — with an ugly blot. “Sexism” isn’t the precise word for his predatory behavior toward women or his inexcusable relationship with a 22-year-old intern. Yet in the larger scheme of things, Bill Clinton’s conduct toward women is far worse than any of the offensive things that Trump has said.

Trump has smeared women because of their looks. Clinton has preyed on them, and in a workplace setting where he was by far the superior. That is uncomfortable for Clinton supporters but it is unavoidably true.

Which leads to the next question: What is the relevance of Bill Clinton’s conduct for Hillary Clinton’s campaign? Ordinarily, I would argue that the sins of the husband should not be visited on the wife. What Bill Clinton did counts against him, not her, and I would include in that her decision to stick with him. What happens inside a marriage is the couple’s business, and no one else’s, even when both halves crave the presidency.

But Hillary Clinton has made two moves that lead me, gulp, to agree with Trump on the “fair game” front. She is (smartly) using her husband as a campaign surrogate, and simultaneously (correctly) calling Trump sexist.

These moves open a dangerous door. It should surprise no one that Trump has barged right through it.

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HellToupee said:

General Malaise said:

If Bill Clinton raped all these women, prosecute and lock him up for good. What are we waiting for? Darren Sharper sits in prison. What's the hold-up with Bill if we have all this slam dunk evidence? Press charges and let's go to trial.

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Bill Cosby down??

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General Malaise said:

HellToupee said:

General Malaise said:

If Bill Clinton raped all these women, prosecute and lock him up for good. What are we waiting for? Darren Sharper sits in prison. What's the hold-up with Bill if we have all this slam dunk evidence? Press charges and let's go to trial.

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Bill Cosby down??

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Oh, snap.

Let me repeat myself: If there is all this slam dunk evidence, why not charge him?

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