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Hey everyone has their own risk appetite so that's fine. I think if you are fully conscious of how many times he has screwed up and how easy it will be for him to do so again and get caught since he's now in the program for the rest of his career, and you would still give a 1st, more power to you.Obviously the kid is an idiot, but I don't think we can assume that the NFL's drug policy is going to stay static forever. It is possible that the NFLPA gives in on HGH testing and the thresholds for THC come up dramatically or pot suspensions get reduced dramatically.A mid-1st would've been too much before the atbitror ruling was announced IMO. Now I really think you'd have to be deluaional about what this guy prioritizes in life.I think there is the potential for a disconnect between his trade value and where most sites are going to rank him. What I mean is that I think it is probably going to be easier to get a 1st (or whatever the appropriate price is for that range) because he is more volatile. That increased volatility is going to allow people to more easily create the narrative where he could significantly help their team.Josh Gordon dynasty value now?
A 2015 1st?
On FBG and a couple of other dynasty rankings, I see him ranked around rookie WR3 or WR4. So that could be turned into around a mid-round first pick IMO.
Thoughts from anyone who rather talk value than legal mumbo jumbo?
Mid-1st sounds about right, would probably move a late 1st for him and would not give a projected early 1st.
Dude got popped for marijuana possession once at Baylor and the recent DUI where he was barely over the limit. Were there other run-ins with the law that weren't speeding? Idiot? Sure. Blackmon level? Not even close.
If you think fair market price is significantly south of a mid-1st I can definitely respect that, but it just takes 1 buyer willing to take the chance. And I might be suffering from some benchmark bias based on what OP threw out initially. But let's put it this way, I would jump at acquiring him for a 2nd in virtually any league setting,
If he had no drug/suspension history at all, what is his price? 3-4 random 1sts? so the 1 mid-1st already incorporates a significant discount over what his talent level is.
I understand all of the signs are pointing down right now, and there is a possibility that he never suits up in NFL again. But I am not willing to say that that is definitely the case or that I have a high degree of confidence in that statement.
The people that I think are crazy are the ones wh are like "Well when he gets back, he's still going to just be 24 years old. He'll be a stud for years!" I've seen it, I literally saw as remark like that when the guy bought Gordon for a future 1st a few weeks ago. That guy and others who would say the same are ignoring the fact that it's not a "when," and that there's nothing to suggest he's going to have a long career.
But yeah if you go in eyes wide open and would still give a 1st, god bless. I get it.