FarFromHome
Footballguy
Targets havent been the issue, but Thomas on IR means more targets I guess. Hasn't been great but has been solid.
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WR Chris Olave, NO (1 Viewer)
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crushedspirit
Footballguy
Damn, Carr is practicing
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Get well buddy.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
He was having a great day prior to injury. Finally getting the usage he deserves with MT out. Typical fantasy football that he got hurt, but encouraging.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Maybe he will beat the odds and clear protocol without missing the following week.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Still in protocol but was practising today which is a great sign. Didn’t cost me at weekend thankfully but he was on the way to a monster game against Atlanta. Could have been his defining moment tbh in levelling up fantasy wise
As a Lions fan I’m conflicted but I really really need him fit this weekend
As a Lions fan I’m conflicted but I really really need him fit this weekend
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Wow. Hadn't read that yet. I put it at 100% out this week. Past history says he for sure misses one game. Limited practice, so soon, gives me actual hope he might play. He was just about to have a 200 yard game.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Said he was limited to individual drills, which included reps with Carr. This is his third traumatic brain injury, had one a year ago and in college three years ago.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I think only one player cleared in a standard week all year. I could be wrong but with the above comment I doubt we see him. It is promising he’s out there on Wednesday. Tomorrow is important.
I’d be curious to know how many players clear in a playoff race later in the season versus not in years past.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Purdy cleared same week, correct?
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Technically KJ Osbourne cleared as well…. But the Vikings chose to sit him out,
A San Fran lineman also cleared.
It’s not out of the realm of possibility to clear in a week.
But…. As @BobbyLayne pointed out above… he does have a history of brain injuries dating back to college and last year so I would think that’s another mark against his possibility of playing.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Limited again on Thursday, no closer to clearing the protocol
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Read somewhere that he's practicing faster than anybody who's been in the protocol, with rumors that he may not suffered a concussion at all. Could that be right?
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I'll vote "I hope so."
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Opinion article but it lists out all concussions for the year and over 30 players have played the following week. That number surprised me. This isn't intended as a Olave will play narrative at all. All concussions are different. All players history is different. Just didn't think that many cleared protocol and played the following week
fantasyindex.com
Week 13 concussions - Chris Olave returns to practice on Wednesday - Fantasy Index
Chris Olave returns to practice on Wednesday
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Good info.Opinion article but it lists out all concussions for the year and over 30 players have played the following week. That number surprised me. This isn't intended as a Olave will play narrative at all. All concussions are different. All players history is different. Just didn't think that many cleared protocol and played the following week
Week 13 concussions - Chris Olave returns to practice on Wednesday - Fantasy Index
Chris Olave returns to practice on Wednesday
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Agree. It’s a longshot.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Good stuff. I knew someone smarter then me would gather more data on that. At the time of the game I knew I'd miss him for at least one game.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Ian Rapoport
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#Saints WR Chris Olave was a full participant today, a sign that he’s close to clearing the concussion protocol.
@RapSheet
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3m
#Saints WR Chris Olave was a full participant today, a sign that he’s close to clearing the concussion protocol.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
It's the final check off. Getting this full participation practice seems like the harder check off of the 5 steps. Why would the team put him in full practice if they didnt think he could clear it? They would look incompetent.
rockaction
Footballguy
Because Shaheed and Thomas are also hurt and they're down to the practice squad guys. That'll motivate teams to cut corners with health issues that can appear nebulous to the untrained eye.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Well they have to be getting guidance from trained medical staff. This isn’t about coaches calling the shots
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I respect you. I think your one of the better posters on this site, but i strongly disagree with this. The NFL lost a billion dollar concussion lawsuit. No way they would cut corners because they have a need at wr. Imo
Under todays NFL rules a team doing that can lose a draft pick.
That's why The NFL uses third party medical people to clear players with concussions.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
AT Perry week? Taysom Hill?
joey
Footballguy
Juwan Johnson FTW!
(file under “desperation start” and wishful thinking)
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rockaction
Footballguy
Fair enough. I was not aware they might lose a draft pick if they try and get somebody through an independent neurologist. Does that mean every time a guy goes full practice and they fail that a draft pick is up in the air?
It's an ever-evolving process and I'm afraid I haven't totally kept up with it.
If they've removed reasons for cynicism about the NFL and concussions, please enlighten me. I'd love it if that were the case.
rockaction
Footballguy
Thank you. That's very kind of you. Always room for disagreement when lodged with reason and evidence. I'll think more about it and try to learn the process better because of yours and Rubi's pleading to the contrary.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah I have him in a couple semis
Players can be in the concussion protocal and still practice.
It happens every week. The third party still makes the final determination.
There was a very good article posted in this thread about the number of players who were in the protocol and played the next week.
Statorama
gangster
If Olave and Shaheed are both out:
- Kamara will catch a gajillion passes
- Saints will dial up more plays for Taysom
- Juwan could see around 7 targets (and should be the big end zone beneficiary)
- Presents a perfect opportunity to see if AT can be a workhorse (but I'm not confident they'll go that way)
- Jimmy Graham might have to wear a helmet this week
grateful zed
Footballguy
benching olave for singletary until further notice.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Basically what I'm doing. After that 1st half last week it would be hard to sit if he is active. He was killing it until the injury.
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
I will be forced to start the Taytay JJ combo
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I know it's not Olave but it's concussion related and some serious stuff. Some may know, s ome may not. Troy Aikman after NFC championshio game hit. A conversation well after the game while Troy was in hospital.
Leigh Steinberg, his agent went to visit Troy in hospital.
Troy: “Leigh, where am I?”
Leigh: “Well, you’re in the hospital.”
Troy: “Well, why am I here?”
Leigh “You suffered a concussion today”
Troy: “Well, who did we play?”
Leigh: “The 49ers.”
Troy: “Did we win?”
Leigh “Yes, you won."
Troy: “Did I play well?”
Leigh “Yes, you played well.”
Tory “Did— what does that— and so what’s that mean?”
Leigh “It means you’re going to the Super Bowl.”
Five minutes later, they’re sitting there, they’re continuing to hang out, and Aikman suddenly turns to Steinberg and says, “What am I doing here?” And the next thing you know, they are reliving this conversation they’d had five minutes earlier.
Brutal
Leigh Steinberg, his agent went to visit Troy in hospital.
Troy: “Leigh, where am I?”
Leigh: “Well, you’re in the hospital.”
Troy: “Well, why am I here?”
Leigh “You suffered a concussion today”
Troy: “Well, who did we play?”
Leigh: “The 49ers.”
Troy: “Did we win?”
Leigh “Yes, you won."
Troy: “Did I play well?”
Leigh “Yes, you played well.”
Tory “Did— what does that— and so what’s that mean?”
Leigh “It means you’re going to the Super Bowl.”
Five minutes later, they’re sitting there, they’re continuing to hang out, and Aikman suddenly turns to Steinberg and says, “What am I doing here?” And the next thing you know, they are reliving this conversation they’d had five minutes earlier.
Brutal
finfansteve
Footballguy
I’ve had five documented concuss and I suspect another one or two that I never went to see a doctor for and now have constant ringing in my ears, some cognitive loss, attention deficit among other issues. All of which I believe are associated with these concussions as I never had any issues before they started piling up.
They are nothing to be taken lightly for sure
They are nothing to be taken lightly for sure
grateful zed
Footballguy
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Color me surprised, it appears he will play today. All rosters are different, but he will be in my starting lineup for a high scoring affair at home.
Now thinking of pivoting to D. Carr. Thought Olave would be out for sure.
doeseatplace
Footballguy
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Please be true
crushedspirit
Footballguy
He is active
