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WR CeeDee Lamb, DAL (1 Viewer)
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eighsse2
Footballguy
Catching 2 of 11 for 29 and no TD's in week 1 was scary for a dynasty owner like myself. You knew if the targets kept coming he was going to be reeling them in though.
jm192
Footballguy
Sure. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little nervous after that.
I wasn't trying to throw shade at those that doubted him. People wanted him to prove it, he did.
Anyone can have those dud games. Davante Adams has had 3 stinkers and a 2 for 12 game that was saved by a TD. Granted, Adams is much more proven. But the crappy games happen to even the best.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
The people that I trust most were banging the drum hard for him during the rookie process. I was absolutely elated when the defending champ in our league was willing to trade him to me for Hunt and OBJ after the Akers offseason injury in Lamb's rookie year.
I was definitely starting to doubt that he would get to the upper echelon fantasy WR1 that I was hoping for. Obviously the QB situation was and is a big part of this. Thankfully I didn't do anything rash.
As far as young stud WR1 dynasty startups, it's starting to feel like Jefferson and Chase on a tier to themselves is turning into Jefferson up top with Lamb maybe starting to enter the conversation of being in the same tier as Chase behind that. Is that going too far?
I was definitely starting to doubt that he would get to the upper echelon fantasy WR1 that I was hoping for. Obviously the QB situation was and is a big part of this. Thankfully I didn't do anything rash.
As far as young stud WR1 dynasty startups, it's starting to feel like Jefferson and Chase on a tier to themselves is turning into Jefferson up top with Lamb maybe starting to enter the conversation of being in the same tier as Chase behind that. Is that going too far?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Lamb,for me, is a top 5 dynasty pick pretty easily. Heck this past offseason he was in my top 8.
I can see taking him at 3, after Jefferson and Chase.
I wouldn't fault anyone for taking Lamb at 1 or 2. I would not, but seen much sillier things in startups.
No RB for me in the top 3.
And he played 6 games with a back up QB. If Dak was all year, no telling what his numbers would be. CeeDee is a beast.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I was not much of a CDL fan prior to this season and only of late but he deserves some serious kudos for what he does within this offense.
He does not rip the cover off a defense and i still feel like he causes interceptions, maybe my "NFL opinion" of CDL is different than his FF production
102/1,307/8TDs but the real push IMHO
Money Weeks 15-17 PPR and 100+yd bonuses
7/126
10/120/2TDs
11/100
22+37+24= Almost a 28 pt average, doing the work of two skill players
This guy has helped MoP Jr go from a wildcard last seed to the Championship this week
Off to the races after last night with Higgins sliding into the No 2 WR slot this week
Nobody at WR seems strong enough to steal his targets, in fact Schultz is really their 2nd best option, especially with Pollard out last night
He does not rip the cover off a defense and i still feel like he causes interceptions, maybe my "NFL opinion" of CDL is different than his FF production
102/1,307/8TDs but the real push IMHO
Money Weeks 15-17 PPR and 100+yd bonuses
7/126
10/120/2TDs
11/100
22+37+24= Almost a 28 pt average, doing the work of two skill players
This guy has helped MoP Jr go from a wildcard last seed to the Championship this week
Off to the races after last night with Higgins sliding into the No 2 WR slot this week
Nobody at WR seems strong enough to steal his targets, in fact Schultz is really their 2nd best option, especially with Pollard out last night
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
This guy has been top class this season.
Great to see him finally establishing himself as an alpha.
Great to see him finally establishing himself as an alpha.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I like Cooks in the 8th Rd a lot more than CeeDee in the 2nd Rd
They might have similar numbers many weeks.
Cooks has reached 1,000+ yds in 6 seasons and most of them he has 5-6-7+ TDs
What is Lamb's upside in the early-mid 2nd?
They might have similar numbers many weeks.
Cooks has reached 1,000+ yds in 6 seasons and most of them he has 5-6-7+ TDs
What is Lamb's upside in the early-mid 2nd?
Weebs210
Footballguy
After owning cooks in multiple leagues last year. I will never draft that bum again. CD has week winning/top 3 wr upside.
Lamb's upside is he's 24 and could still be an ascendent player. He could also see a TD spike with Schultz gone. Cooks is now in his 30s and doesn't have 4 years of rapport with Dak.
I think Lamb in round 2 and Cooks in round 8 both seem about right to me.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'll put it another way
I'll take AJ Brown in the 2nd and I'll still take Cooks in the 8th as my WR4 or Flex, not saying that is the path to winning a championship, just that drafting Lamb in the 2nd means Cooks is off my board. I think BC still has some gas and got a bad rap in Houston, he's on a far better offense now, lot of knolwedge and I don't think that he's qite cooked yet, he also might fall a little further down the boards past the 8th.
But I respect your POV, nothing wrong with feeling optimistic about CDL
Cheers!
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I think you learned the wrong lesson here. I don't think Brandin Cooks, guy with six 1000 yard seasons, was the problem.
Weebs210
Footballguy
No the lesson I learned is I'm never taking floor players again. Ever. Last year was the first time I took more floor players then high upside players and it was not a good year for me.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That’s a fair lesson for sure. I don’t think it makes Cooks a bum though. It was the Texans without a single other legit offensive threat and a platoon of career backups at QB. Their offense was pretty much a losing play regardless.
While I mostly agree with this point, I think you are underselling Dameon Pierce. He was a better RB than, say, Ezekiel Elliott has been in years.
Brandin Cooks is the same guy he's always been in my opinion. A #2 WR who sometimes has had to fill a #1 WR role, that he never was really good enough to fit into, which is why he's on team #5 in 10 years. He's clearly not as good as CeeDee Lamb is, like I can't even see an argument otherwise, but he's better than Michael Gallup is.
I'd have no problem drafting both Lamb and Cooks. Lamb as a WR1, and Cooks as a WR4, who has upside as a handcuff of sorts as he can be a WR2 in the event of as Lamb injury.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I want to emphasize there is NOTHING wrong with this mind set, I like it...however,
You might be overlooking Cooks based on personal misery last season, just my opinion
But more folks need this mindset in redraft and i'm not going to stop you, I rather like your hot takes even when I might slightly disagree
Your board credit is good in the MoP Land
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Talk more Pierce, he seems like a 5th Rd dandy this year in redraft leagues
I like Pierce in round 5. He's my RB18. I think he's better than guys like Aaron Jones (Dillon>Singletary) or Miles Sanders (mediocre player) and right about on par with Mattison, who is probably my favorite 5th round RB, other than the time or 2 I've seen Walker fall that far, Walker-Sanders is my RB16-20.
Pierce is the last of the guys I think are the centerpiece of their offenses. Hell, Pierce in the 5th, might be a good RB2 target for teams who take Lamb in round 2.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
For anyone that is new here and enjoys an occasional MoP hot take, look no further than where I get a lot of my opinions, whether TD and I agree/disagree, it's like Siskel and Ebert, there's an understood mutual respect and I don't mind stepping out when i disagree with him. That said, we both like Pierce, I've been quiet about my enthusiasm but Pierce has a chance to solidify himself as a Top 10 RB in FF and a future star in the NFL.
Just my .02
Terpman22
Footballguy
I will agree he "should be better" as a WR this year. But, maybe I'm wrong, seems his target share might go down. They lost Schultz, but added Cooks and Gallup should be back. Add in the want of the new playcaller to "run the ball more" it could be very similar to last year.
I just can't see him going too much over 107/1350/9 which is what he had last year
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I wouldn't give any weight to the "want to run more" McCarthy has been saying that every offseason since Favre was his QB.
Having said that, a concern I have for the offense (and a reason I like the Chargers offense) is that Kellen Moore calls the most up-tempo game of any play caller in the NFL. He runs a higher number of plays, because they are constantly snapping the ball with 10-15 seconds left on the play clock. So, Dallas might essentially lose a game's worth of production across the board, just from calling fewer plays, and the reverse could apply to the Chargers.
As for Lamb, I've got him WR7. I agree the catches and yards probably aren't going to go up, and likely could decrease, but I could see his TDs spiking up to like 12-13. With Schultz gone, Lamb is likely the most trusted redzone option.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Sure looked that way this week. Thrilled with his production so far.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Seems extreme. Cowboys won’t play the 49ers every week.
No, but Dak sucks every week. Lamb had a good run the second half of last year, but that could be the exception. I want guys I can count on to be consistent.
Benching Lamb and Waddle for Kupp and Pickens.
Yes, I suffered a crappy loss this week and am overreacting to everything.
eighsse2
Footballguy
14 ppg is nothing to sneeze at, anyway. Obviously for a superstar-adjacent type guy, you'd like to see that up at 17 or 18, but he has been fine so far.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Ownerspeak.
Fezza
Footballguy
It was worth the wait
