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I agree with a commissioner not using veto powers under almost any circumstances - but in this situation some serious questions need to be asked at least. Team B would need to explain to me how he thinks this helps his team, because I can’t see it. “I got two picks and have holes to fill” isn’t going to cut it.
Like may other trades we have seen in here, tomorrow we will probably see the guy say that the owner accidentally accepted the trade.
Would be interesting to know which side offered it. I’m not sure which side offering would be worse.
Andrew74 said:
I missed one aspect - there was also $20 league currency involved. $ is used for waivers as well as RFA process, and it's a $50 annual reload so that's a moderate addition. It's probably about the 1.07 equivalent. AJG went for $35 in this league last year and $20 probably gets you a guy like Melvin Gordon or Ingram now. So now it becomes:
Interesting. We always know based on league discussion on the message board and amongst owners, especially for big ones like this.
One could probably sell 1.14 and 2.14 for more cash and have enough, or very close, to get Julio in RFA. So while I wouldn't be trading 1.01 for Julio, this doesn't end up quite in the egregious territory to me. Now that I see the cash (it was in the comments) I kind of wish I didn't post this one, and I usually avoid doing so when I know cash is involved, because it's a very league-specific nuance that really skews the perception a lot for those that don't play in them. I usually just stick to picks/players only trades when I post here.
I came back to this and the fact that if they sell off the other assets then they possibly, but not guarantee that you can land the best free agent, doesn’t really move the needle off “terrible” for me, and it absolutely belongs here. Maybe there are some other fa guys available that they could wrangle in and get 2-3 good players, but you have to be one savvy owner. Seems like he took the first offer available and didn’t shop the pick at all.
I don’t think it is representative of player values. At least not what I’m seeing Zekes going rate to be.
Yeah, this doesn't belong at all. It may not be his going rate, but first off it's not an offer and second its not that horrible.
I really don’t know if you don’t see the difference in the title of the thread:
A bad process occasionally will lead to a good result. That does not mean you should continue to follow a bad process after a good result.
Clearly I understand it since I have posted in this thread and on these boards for many more years than you. However, I was glomming on the recent post from another who posted what they believed to be a trade that is not representative of value and therefore they put it here rather than the trade thread rather than muddying up the accepted trade thread.
It’s too bad your “years” more experience on these boards couldn’t help you with the difference between an offer and an accepted trade.jeaton6 said:Clearly I understand it since I have posted in this thread and on these boards for many more years than you. However, I was glomming on the recent post from another who posted what they believed to be a trade that is not representative of value and therefore they put it here rather than the trade thread rather than muddying up the accepted trade thread.
Now, please respond to your wrong comment that this was “not an offer”, oh that’s right you cannot because it was.
Then, go away and focus on improving your teams. Your obsession with me is disturbing.
Not only is it not horrible, I'd take the non-Zeke side pretty easily (although I'd drop Joe Williams right away after accepting). I might be in the minority - I'm not high on either Agholor or Ebron and I'm a big fan of Cohen and Diggs, but I would have thought the value was on the Diggs side.
In my league, 3 or 4 years ago that would not end up on this post. However, today, yes LOL. Poor JJ
Only ask you to answer because you choose to not answer and just deflect which you have done again. If you cannot understand the fact that an accepted trade started with an offer then nothing can get through your thick skull.
Arguing semantics for 3 weeks now, time to move on guys. Yes any completed trade at one time starts out as an offer. If someone doesn’t think so, oh well. Back away from the computer.
Who is rostering Virgil green? What is this, 2014? I actually looked to make sure I was on the right page and didn’t somehow go back to page 4.
You can kind of understand the first offer in many leagues as TE are often devalued and some people still like KB. some even like Matthews. It might not even get much criticism if completed (though the vast majority prefer Henry by a lot).
Yeah phony comments annoy me too. There's a guy in one of my leagues, knowledgeable owner, has won his share, who like clockwork every year will spam me with offers of like 5 end of bench players who you know he's planning on cutting anyways, for a 3rd round rookie pick (or 4th etc.). Offers always include these ridiculous salesman pitches like "Oh this guy is currently 4th on the depth chart but they really like him and he could take over soon", or "with this guy you can lock up <insert team> RB situation by having 1st, 2nd, AND 3rd stringers".
