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What happened to Peyton Hillis today? (1 Viewer)
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Badgers Fan
Footballguy
Wait and see. Cause for concern, but let's see what happens when KC is competitive. I think week 2 vs buffalo should paint a clearer picture.
Fantasy Engineer
Footballguy
My take is that Charles is the game changer and will thus all see the larger percentage of carries. I think going forward Hillis will be used more but just enough to keep Charles fresh.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
This. The situation didn't call for a RB like Hillis to grind it out. One thing that was alarming with Charles though was that he was seemingly phased out of the passing game. Hillis and especially McCluster seem to have taken over that role. I feel like KC is finally figuring out how to utilize McCluster.
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
What happened is that a large segment of the fantasy football population failed to recognize that Jamaal Charles is a stud, plain and simple.
Hillis is a wasted draft pick this year. Cut bait while you can.
Hillis is a wasted draft pick this year. Cut bait while you can.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Classic overreaction to week 1.
Find this sucker in your league and buy low.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
I would argue that Hillis owners are still overreacting to his performances from 2 years ago.But you can argue about his talent all you want, but you can't deny the following facts: he's a BACKUP RB on a mediocre team. Those facts alone should have made him an afterthought on fantasy draft day, yet he somehow got an ADP of 26.Bottom line is that you're a fool if you expected more than 3 points out of a backup RB today.He. Is. A. Backup.
shadyridr
Footballguy
all reports out of preseason was 50-50 split and they were both named starter on depth chart. maybe semantics but i think its too early to say hes strictly a backup
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
FBG staff pimped Hillis and y'all followed like sheep. Typical and not surprised.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
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sportsphysio
Footballguy
This was the most concerning thing to me; a majority of his value depended on the GL opportunities. The GL vulture got vultured.
Mile High
Footballguy
Game was over by then. You are better off letting your younger players get some game time.
I DRAFTED JAAMAL CHARLES AND DAMNIT HE IS THE ONLY GUY WHO SHOULD CARRY THE BALL! Get a clue man, I own both in various leagues but clearly both have a real role here. Even in 2010 Charles only got around half the carries, its just his best role. In a closer game Hillis will get more carries, and if they get a goal line chance (they didn't really have any in this game) Hillis will get most of those also. Couple that with Hillis looking active in the passing game, and I certainly am not panicking. I mean you do realize JC only put up around 9 points in a ppr this week right? Thats not exactly huge production, and thankfully my team with him had Ryan going this week haha. Hillis to me is like a better version of Michael Bush, he will get the same goal line work only with more catches and carries.'Joe Summer said:
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Once again, it's not 2010 anymore and Charlie Weis is no longer running the KC offense. It's not going to be a 50/50 split and the best performers will get the most touches.
GreenNGold
Footballguy
I was expecting Hillis/Charles to be pretty much 50-50 going into the season... but Charles just looked awesome today. Unless Charles gets hurt I'd expect a lot more stat lines like today, or, if the Chiefs ever get a lead (which will not be very often) I would not expect Hillis to get more than 25% of the carries.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
He looked good on one run, averaging 2.7 YPC on every other carry and didn't catch a single pass even though KC was playing catch up for an entire half. No on on KC looked awesome today.
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
Hillis had one good run and averaged 1.5 YPC on every other carry. Oh, but at least he caught 3 passes for 0 points.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I'm sorry did I say he looked good? Did you think I was implying that or something?Hillis had one good run and averaged 1.5 YPC on every other carry. Oh, but at least he caught 3 passes for 0 points.
GreenNGold
Footballguy
Agreed, I think his ADP was low enough no one did that (he is my RB4 in the one league I have him). I'm disappointed with today but if I have to drop him in week 3 or 4 it is no big loss... he was basically a homerun or bust pick anyways.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Charles is a stud....Hillis is a back up
jurb26
Footballguy
From what I saw it was rather simple. Hillis looked like a slow, ploding FB when he touched the ball. Charles looked like an elite runner with burst and explosivness when he touched the ball.
Perhaps there will be days this isn't the case but I doubt it. That doesn't mean Hillis can't produce some stats at some point. It just means Charles is clary better.... which we already knew, right?
Perhaps there will be days this isn't the case but I doubt it. That doesn't mean Hillis can't produce some stats at some point. It just means Charles is clary better.... which we already knew, right?
Banger
Footballguy
Hillis will have value if they are in contention for the division, winning games and he can salt away games...if they get blown out like yesterday he will have stat lines like yesterday. I think their teams is better than how they played yesterday and Hillis should have some decent value.
jurb26
Footballguy
I agree. Does anyone realize how many inactives that KC team had on D yesterday? Particularly the secondary. It's really no surprise they struggled so much vs. the Atl passing attack. KC will play better this season. When they do Hillis will get more opportunities. None the less, he is a far lesser RB to Charles. That much is clear.
Draughn has been on the radar since pre-season. The staff likes him. He will be worked in a bit and frustrate Charles/Hillis ppl sometimes, and other times he will disappear for a long while. If there's an injury to Charles/Hillis, Charles/Hillis' role isnt likely to change with him around.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Charles has the highest yards/carry in the history of the NFL. He's probably going to get the ball over a converted FB most of the time.
We Tigers
Footballguy
McCluster and Charles both looked great, with excellent speed and quick cuts every time they touched the ball. The Chiefs tried to keep pace with the Falcons but couldn't.
Hillis will have a role, especially in divisional games against the so-so offenses of the AFC West. But McCluster is getting a lot of the backfield/leak/wheel route passes, and Charles was getting run all over. Each of the KC RBs may be more niche players than originally expected.
Hillis will have a role, especially in divisional games against the so-so offenses of the AFC West. But McCluster is getting a lot of the backfield/leak/wheel route passes, and Charles was getting run all over. Each of the KC RBs may be more niche players than originally expected.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
A lot of over reaction to a blowout loss in this thread.
One guy drafted 25th scored ~9 points and probably started on most rosters.
The other guy was drafted 90th and scored ~6 points(ppr) on the bench for most people.
One guy drafted 25th scored ~9 points and probably started on most rosters.
The other guy was drafted 90th and scored ~6 points(ppr) on the bench for most people.
Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
Hillis is going to be a situational player. Fact of the matter is KC got blown out by a high powered offense yesterday and their was no need for a rb to grind out yds. They needed to score in a hurry and Charles was the far better fit for the situation...Simple as that.
Hillis be more involved in most games.
Hillis be more involved in most games.
Yes, I believe so, but it's worth it.
Okay genius.The rest of us saw:1) A high-ceiling back who is capable of 1600 yards as the feature back 2) He's in a run-heavy offense 3) In 2010 Thomas Jones had 240 carries in the same role in the same offense4) The guy ahead of him is a year removed from ACL surgeryWe're all 20/20 in hindsight but I still like the pick in the 7th+. That's where Tate is going and Hillis is going to get more touches than Tate this year.
VaTerp
Footballguy
I don't think there is ANY doubt Charles is the better RB, which is why he was drafted much higher and is a weekly starter. I liked both this year and got Hillis for $12 while Charles went for $43 in my auction. Hillis is my RB4 while Charles is the other guy's RB1.It's crystal clear and has been so that Charles is the much better RB and more valuable FF player. Some argued that Hillis was a better value in drafts because he can be had much cheaper. I don't necessarily agree with that but let's not overreact to week 1.
And I wouldnt characterize Hillis as slow and plodding based on the 7 carries he had yesterday. He will look much better in games that are more conducive to his style IMO.
Key point which is why I really wanted to take Hillis out of my lineup as my flex but had little choice with Mathews out. KC was also without their best pass rusher. It was an easily apparent recipe for disaster for KC 's defense.KC will get guys back and be better on defense, which will allow them to play the kind of games where Hillis will get his. Charles is clearly the better back, which we all have known. But there is still value in Hillis.
It's week 1 people.
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