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kutta
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The wife and I always head over to The Hotel and eat at Mix for our fancy dinner. At the Venetian, you must have breakfast at Bouchon. I highly recommend dinner there too.
cheese
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Tip at front to get moved up to terrace studio. Big jacuzzi tub with private balcony
BIG room... extremely nice decor/amentities.
I do love Cosmo... the GF does too so it works out. It's definitely not cheap but if you sign up for their identity card, you get tons of offers. I get free room offers all the damn time. Usually doesn't cover saturday though.
Identity there has a great program too (not advertised)... sign up, DECLINE the stupid wheel spin, go put $100 in a slot/vp/whatever. IF you lose the $100, go to the counter and tell them, they will put $100 in free play on your card.
cheese
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What are the best poker rooms this year? Seems to be a moving target. I heard Aria has picked up. MGM and Ballagio are usually solid. Wynn gets players but has always seemed like the hardest game of them all to me. Anybody got any updated info?17seconds said:
I'm especially interested in who gets a good game going early. I don't sleep much when I'm there and most rooms are dead 9a-noon.
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I'm sure that room is great, but I expected the standard room to be better. I tried to get a free upgrade with my Marriott status but no dice, which was disappointing, usually I do. They don't consider themselves a true Marriott property.Tip at front to get moved up to terrace studio. Big jacuzzi tub with private balcony
BIG room... extremely nice decor/amentities.
Woogie Lee
Footballguy
my boss just landed in Vegas. I'll pay someone $5,000 to kill her while she's out there.
Balco
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azgroover
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I think it's $100 per. Can't remember though, haven't been since last years wild card round.Do any books on the strip (worth going to) still give out drinks for free?
Balco
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cheese
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I think Ballagio was the last holdout and they switched this yr. End of an era
Mark Davis
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Amazing how much smaller the poker rooms are now. When I was at MGM in '08 or '09 that whole circular room area by the bar and sportsbook was filled with poker tables. Pretty much they stayed full at night and had waitlists. In '11, they were down to a little side area that maybe had a dozen or so tables that was just kind of freestanding to the side just down the casino a bit. The past couple trips I haven't even sat down in a poker room. If I focus I'm an ok player, but with the trendy part of it gone, the super bad tourist players are also gone. I usually come out better counting cards a bit and avoiding the grind.
azgroover
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That's worth noting. Back when I was in college and a few years after, my buddies and I would sit in Keno rooms placing $1, $2 bets for good drink service too. Haven't done it in years, so I'm not sure if that's changed as well.
Might be a game changer. ThxYou can use them at that bar right next to the book or wait for service, either one.
mquinnjr
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Got a question for you guys.
Might be going to Vegas for a bachelor party in a month or two. A buddy got me in contact with the head concierge at the MGM Grand, who's the head concierge for all the MGM properties. We'd have about 15 or so guys going, and I let him know this for rooms. Seems like a great contact, and said he'd help with anything we need while there if we use one of the MGM network properties. No real deals mentioned on the rooms or anything.
Was wondering, since a few of us will be betting quite a bit in the 1-3k range, if setting up a marker/depositing cash into the cage before you arrive helps with potential perks, or if its really down to actual money spent while there on the tables/sportsbook. I get the not wanting to get stiffed concept if we low-ball wager once there, but just wondering if this does anything to help the cause with a room discount, etc.
Thanks in advance, appreciate it.
Might be going to Vegas for a bachelor party in a month or two. A buddy got me in contact with the head concierge at the MGM Grand, who's the head concierge for all the MGM properties. We'd have about 15 or so guys going, and I let him know this for rooms. Seems like a great contact, and said he'd help with anything we need while there if we use one of the MGM network properties. No real deals mentioned on the rooms or anything.
Was wondering, since a few of us will be betting quite a bit in the 1-3k range, if setting up a marker/depositing cash into the cage before you arrive helps with potential perks, or if its really down to actual money spent while there on the tables/sportsbook. I get the not wanting to get stiffed concept if we low-ball wager once there, but just wondering if this does anything to help the cause with a room discount, etc.
Thanks in advance, appreciate it.
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Generally hosts are a per person thing not a group deal. You can ask him about a host but 1-3k at an MGM property over the course of a weekend isn't really going to get you much.
Generally at MGM properties you need to be a black chip player or up for pretty extended sessions to start looking at rooms and such (outside marketing offers).
That said, ask up front. Get a players card and track all play. At end of stay go to the host and see what they can knock off your bill.
Generally at MGM properties you need to be a black chip player or up for pretty extended sessions to start looking at rooms and such (outside marketing offers).
That said, ask up front. Get a players card and track all play. At end of stay go to the host and see what they can knock off your bill.
mquinnjr
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Disco Stu
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Next Thursday I'm headed to Vegas for a four night bachelor party (T&Ps needed). It will be my first Vegas trip since 2008. What do I need to know? What has changed?
I think there are 12 of us, and we got a decent group rate at the Flamingo. I know the bachelor wants to go to a stripclub (Spearmint Rhino IIRC), play beer pong (I guess O'Sheas reopened?), do this zipline thing, and get the full group at a craps table one night. Other than that, we're winging it.
I think there are 12 of us, and we got a decent group rate at the Flamingo. I know the bachelor wants to go to a stripclub (Spearmint Rhino IIRC), play beer pong (I guess O'Sheas reopened?), do this zipline thing, and get the full group at a craps table one night. Other than that, we're winging it.
Haven't been in a few years. Was planning to go out later this week for a few days but the wife shot me down. Admittedly, last time I was out there, seemed like prices on just about everything had skyrocketed. Just eating breakfast for two was a $50 ordeal at the hotel, which we thought was ludicrous. One thing I had always liked about Vegas was the value you could get when not gambling, food, drinks, etc. But it seems that all went away, which was shocking to me when all I read was about all the deals to be had with Vegas in such a bad way during the recession. Has anything changed in the last year or two, or is it still just an expensive place to go?
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The problem is with many cases you get what you pay for.
ON STRIP: Nicer food, nicer ambiance, nicer crowd around you.
OFF STRIP: Cheaper food, less exotic ambiance, degenerate crowd around you.
There are very big exceptions to this rule, and lots of awesome places to go that are off strip if you know where you're going (Firefly Tapas for example)... but generally speaking, you're leaving that bubble of "awesome" that they've created on the strip.
For me, personally, I can get to a casino with slovenly old degenerates grasping their last nickels every weekend down in Tunica. Generally speaking, when I'm on vacation, I am willing spend a little more for a nicer hotel, nicer restaurants, and to avoid that degen crowd. I know that may be elitist but I'm okay with that.. it's my vacation. I'm going on it to ESCAPE what I see at the local casinos.
THAT SAID, there are some pretty good happy hours and such on the strip if you know where to look. For breakfast/brunch, check out Mon Ami Gabi at paris. BEAUTIFUL patio overlooking the strip with excellent food/service/ambiance but very reasonable prices.... unless you're expecting denny's prices, in which case there is one of those center strip near Harrah's.
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ZIPLINE is dead.Next Thursday I'm headed to Vegas for a four night bachelor party (T&Ps needed). It will be my first Vegas trip since 2008. What do I need to know? What has changed?
I think there are 12 of us, and we got a decent group rate at the Flamingo. I know the bachelor wants to go to a stripclub (Spearmint Rhino IIRC), play beer pong (I guess O'Sheas reopened?), do this zipline thing, and get the full group at a craps table one night. Other than that, we're winging it.
EDIT: nevermind I thought that was the freemont zipline.
During the summer Rhino had a deal where if you showed up before 8 you could take advantage of a "pool party bottle special"... I think it was $100 bottles or something insane. We went and got 4 bottles for our group of 7 guys. If you're looking to treat the shake joint as a "pregame" for going out to chase real tail, it's a GREAT opportunity to roll like kings on the cheap. The "Night Shift (aka prime talent) rolls in at 8:30 IIRC and are on the floor by 9 so you get em while they're fresh and looking to flop down with your group and have a few drinks / socialize (vs just getting the hard sell on dances).
Of course, when we went, a huge storm rolled through about an hour later....Rhino lost power (forcing all the girls to be removed from the floor) and we sat there and drank in emergency lights for about 15 minutes before they snatched up our bottles putting our name on them saying we had to come back tomorrow to get them.
(which we never did).Have you nailed down any club plans?
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kutta
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I usually go that weekend but have to travel for work. So we are doing the following weekend instead. Probably not quite the same vibe, but hotels were way cheaper. We booked 2 rooms at the Wynn for $200 a night.
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Vegas now gains something like 50% of it's revenue from non gambling expenses (hotels, dining, etc). They saw the writing on the wall with the decline of gaming revenue and made it up in other areas. There are a lot of people who come to Vegas and gamble very little. I find with each successive trip less and less of my budget is allocated to gambling and more on dining, nightlife. I probably spent 6-7 hours total gambling on my last two trips (3 days, and 5 days long).
Basically, the strip has shifted into a resort destination in addition to a gambling destination.
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A little tip....
Cosmopolitan is SURPRISINGLY generous with their weeknight room comps for Identity Card members.
Last July we were in town for a bachelor party and we dropped into Cosmo for their "Lose $100, get $100 Free" promo for new Identity card players... We all came out even or ahead. Played $1 machines (VP, WOF, etc) for maybe 1-2 hours. That was all we gambled there.
I began getting "2 nights free" emails every month. Used it for a tradeshow in October (went with the GF and a couple of her freinds) and got a great room. Gambled a little bit there but again, not very much at ALL... still get "Free weeknight room" emails periodically.
Disco Stu
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Nope, and that's a huge question mark with this group. The bachelor will feel very uncomfortable anywhere remotely nice. He's a country boy.It's four nights though, so I'm sure the full group won't be together every night. Might be a smaller group wanting to go to a club. Any recommendations for 30-somethings? We aren't high rollers but at least a few of us clean up alright.ZIPLINE is dead.Next Thursday I'm headed to Vegas for a four night bachelor party (T&Ps needed). It will be my first Vegas trip since 2008. What do I need to know? What has changed?
I think there are 12 of us, and we got a decent group rate at the Flamingo. I know the bachelor wants to go to a stripclub (Spearmint Rhino IIRC), play beer pong (I guess O'Sheas reopened?), do this zipline thing, and get the full group at a craps table one night. Other than that, we're winging it.
EDIT: nevermind I thought that was the freemont zipline.
During the summer Rhino had a deal where if you showed up before 8 you could take advantage of a "pool party bottle special"... I think it was $100 bottles or something insane. We went and got 4 bottles for our group of 7 guys. If you're looking to treat the shake joint as a "pregame" for going out to chase real tail, it's a GREAT opportunity to roll like kings on the cheap. The "Night Shift (aka prime talent) rolls in at 8:30 IIRC and are on the floor by 9 so you get em while they're fresh and looking to flop down with your group and have a few drinks / socialize (vs just getting the hard sell on dances).
Of course, when we went, a huge storm rolled through about an hour later....Rhino lost power (forcing all the girls to be removed from the floor) and we sat there and drank in emergency lights for about 15 minutes before they snatched up our bottles putting our name on them saying we had to come back tomorrow to get them.
Have you nailed down any club plans?
Good tip on the Rhino.
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There is a common misconception that going to a nice club in Vegas is an intimidating process. The key is working with a host and it takes ALL the issues/mystery out of it. I'm 37 (look/dress 30ish) and was a little nervous my first time hitting a vegas "Club" a few years back. Didn't want to be the "Old guy". Didn't want to stick out ..etc. That's not an issue at all if you own a nice button down shirt, nice pair of jeans/shoes...etc. You know what im talking about and will have zero issues... neither will your buddies if you coach em up.Nope, and that's a huge question mark with this group. The bachelor will feel very uncomfortable anywhere remotely nice. He's a country boy.
It's four nights though, so I'm sure the full group won't be together every night. Might be a smaller group wanting to go to a club. Any recommendations for 30-somethings? Weren't not high rollers but at least a few of us clean up alright.
Good tip on the Rhino.
If you're looking to hit one of the top clubs in Vegas to "do it right" you're looking at Light (MB), Hakkasan (MGM), or XS (encore) for the most part. I've been to the first two and here are my thoughts:
LIGHT: Went Solo Fri Night in July for Krewella at ~1am and texted Brian Sweet (Head VIP Host / Podium Guy). $100 handshake (included cover which was $60-70 I think?) and I was in with NO wait, he pointed me to a table with group of hot asian chicks from NYC and partied with them. Amazing main room. Cirque de Soleil dancers performing overhead on main floor, badass 3D video wall (HUGE) behind DJ. Great open vibe with 3 tiers looking down over dance floor. Great crowd. Upper mezz level has a long bar and GA area with some solid rail spots for view (to get away from crowd on floor). Very cool club. drinks ~$14ea.
HAKASSAN: Went in October with 3 girls who had gotten passes for Danny Avila Thursday Night. I had to work a tradeshow the next AM at 8am so I wanted to hit it at open (10:30) and be out of there by 1am or so. Tickets got us in guestlist line. In the club within 10 mins of open. MAin room is huge and very cool (SLIGHT step down from Light, IMO). Downstairs there is the intimate ling ling room with lots of tables and U-shaped booths that are first come first served (ie no bottle service required!). Very nice spot to hang while waiting for the main room to fill. GA space is somewhat limited to walkways but the dancefloor is spacious. IT DOES become a meat market on the floor for BIG name DJs (tiesto etc). Overall an amazing club though with cool walkways/corridors everywhere.
I'll say that I was dressed well but never felt even remotely uncomfortable in either of them.
If you've got a group of 3-4+ guys I would highly recommend arriving early and contacting a VIP host for a walk-in (handshake of $X) to avoid the line. IF You can make it there by 10:30/11pm then presale tickets will work fine too. A group of guys with no connections is going to have little or no chance getting in via GA on a weekend if you arrive after 12am...even with presale tickets. Unless you're vets and know how to play the game (who to chat up, who to tip, etc). Talking to a host streamlines that WHOLE process. If you need contacts I'll be happy to assist, Inbox me.
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Naw there are others on here with many more trips under their belt than I. I have managed to make a few good connections that have streamlined the strip experience a bit though. Honestly, spending a month reading up on the Jack Colton forums immensely improved my Vegas acumen.
Am now FB friends with one of the hosts who is a solid dude.. chat regularly and when friends are in town I throw them his cell and he is always great with advice, assistance. Last time I was in town (With 3 women didn't hurt) he texted me at noon or so and offered me a comped table/bottle at Haze that night to kick off the evening. Sadly the girls took too damn long to decide if they wanted to get out so he couldn't hold it (women :smh
but I appreciated the offer.Obviously he does this for a living, so don't expect miracles without taking care of him, but he's very good about chatting and offering tips/advice. He's with Haze (club) and LIquid (pool) normally but also hosts at Hakk and Light on occasion. If he doesn't work directly at a club/pool, he knows someone who does and hands you off and follows up. Good dude.
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Officer Pete Malloy
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T-minus 5 days until we hit town.
Joe T
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Officer Pete Malloy
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I know a couple that spent 5 nights in Vegas...but they don't drink or gamble.
I never really understood the point.
Balco
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I usually do 4 days, but I am heading out there in August for 8-9 days. It is not the drinking I am worried about, my heavy boozing days are long gone. It is resisting gambling too much.
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Get a car and get out of Vegas for 2-3 of those days like pizzatime said aboveI usually do 4 days, but I am heading out there in August for 8-9 days. It is not the drinking I am worried about, my heavy boozing days are long gone. It is resisting gambling too much.
I use the envelope system for gambling money on trips to Vegas:
EXAMPLE: $1500 gambling budget over 3 days:
• Place $500 in 3 different sealed envelopes. Bring 3 unsealed envelopes. Place all in room safe.
• Start of each day, open the envelope, that's your budget for the day.
• At end of each day, whatever is left (win or lose), cut in half and place half in "Go home" envelope for that day and seal it. Other half rolls forward to next day.
The sealed envelopes provide at least somewhat of a psychological barrier to using that cash "improperly". Rewards wins with added cash for balance of trip, while forcing you to take SOME of it home.
Balco
Footballguy
Not a bad idea. Luckily I am more of a sports gambler than table games. I can burn through money quick playing craps.Get a car and get out of Vegas for 2-3 of those days like pizzatime said aboveI usually do 4 days, but I am heading out there in August for 8-9 days. It is not the drinking I am worried about, my heavy boozing days are long gone. It is resisting gambling too much.
I use the envelope system for gambling money on trips to Vegas:
EXAMPLE: $1500 gambling budget over 3 days:
• Place $500 in 3 different sealed envelopes. Bring 3 unsealed envelopes. Place all in room safe.
• Start of each day, open the envelope, that's your budget for the day.
• At end of each day, whatever is left (win or lose), cut in half and place half in "Go home" envelope for that day and seal it. Other half rolls forward to next day.
The sealed envelopes provide at least somewhat of a psychological barrier to using that cash "improperly". Rewards wins with added cash for balance of trip, while forcing you to take SOME of it home.
pizzatyme
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Zion is 2 hours away with spectacular views. You drive past the Vegas Speedway and when you drive back in the evening get ready for an amazing view of Vegas when you come around one of the bends. It's worth stopping for a photo opp. Makes a nice day out of it.
Mt. Charleston is 40 minutes outside of Vegas and is just awesome to drive to the top. There is a great restaurant up there too. Makes for a nice day.
Any sightseeing you do will likely save you gambling money and make the trip more memorable.
I also highly recommend taking the sunset heli tour to the GC. You get to see the sun set twice over the canyon AND you get an awesome view of the strip lit up on the flight back. Maverick is great for this.
Enjoy!
Mt. Charleston is 40 minutes outside of Vegas and is just awesome to drive to the top. There is a great restaurant up there too. Makes for a nice day.
Any sightseeing you do will likely save you gambling money and make the trip more memorable.
I also highly recommend taking the sunset heli tour to the GC. You get to see the sun set twice over the canyon AND you get an awesome view of the strip lit up on the flight back. Maverick is great for this.
Enjoy!
