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He probably had drugs and guns in the car.
You don't REALLY think it sounds that way, right? I mean I know you're MOP but still ...The irony that JB threw this up a few weeks ago, I never thought I'd see this even after reading the news feed on Scheffler this morning
- 2nd degree assault on officer
- 3rd degree criminal mischief
- Reckless driving
- Disregarding traffic signals from an officer direction traffic
Sounds like he simply didn't want to wait and tried to drive around the accident since he's the #1 golfer in the world and the police were hell bent on taking him away
I don't blame the police at all, I'm sure Scheffler drove like a maniac around the accident rather than take it slow and show some respect for the officers forced to be out there
-Don't think any officer was actually hurt or injured so the charges should mostly go away, he might have to do some community service
As others have pointed out, there's no reason why anybody should be sure that he was driving like a maniac. We weren't there, and that seems like a much less likely explanation than "honest miscommunication."The irony that JB threw this up a few weeks ago, I never thought I'd see this even after reading the news feed on Scheffler this morning
- 2nd degree assault on officer
- 3rd degree criminal mischief
- Reckless driving
- Disregarding traffic signals from an officer direction traffic
Sounds like he simply didn't want to wait and tried to drive around the accident since he's the #1 golfer in the world and the police were hell bent on taking him away
I don't blame the police at all, I'm sure Scheffler drove like a maniac around the accident rather than take it slow and show some respect for the officers forced to be out there
-Don't think any officer was actually hurt or injured so the charges should mostly go away, he might have to do some community service
there are plenty of videos of the incident on Twitter and he was most definitely driving about 2 miles an hour at the most. You can hear him saying the cops down the road directed him to do what he was doing. All the other players were able to get by, but not Scotty. Sounds like a cop forgot what was going on at the golf course this weekAs others have pointed out, there's no reason why anybody should be sure that he was driving like a maniac. We weren't there, and that seems like a much less likely explanation than "honest miscommunication."The irony that JB threw this up a few weeks ago, I never thought I'd see this even after reading the news feed on Scheffler this morning
- 2nd degree assault on officer
- 3rd degree criminal mischief
- Reckless driving
- Disregarding traffic signals from an officer direction traffic
Sounds like he simply didn't want to wait and tried to drive around the accident since he's the #1 golfer in the world and the police were hell bent on taking him away
I don't blame the police at all, I'm sure Scheffler drove like a maniac around the accident rather than take it slow and show some respect for the officers forced to be out there
-Don't think any officer was actually hurt or injured so the charges should mostly go away, he might have to do some community service
But more generally, there is never any downside to reserving judgement when stuff like this happens. Everybody on the planet is walking around with video cameras, and there may be body camera footage too. Why stake out a position and get invested in it when there's a good chance that that take will look foolish in the light of day?
It's all fun for a good laugh because it's Scheffler and since he's famous there's enough people watching it that everything will work out.
The crappy part is stuff like this happens every day to people that aren't Scottie Scheffler and it doesn't end up working out for them. I guess we'll see when more details come out but certainly seems at face value like a cop on a power trip wanting to be on a power trip, then doubling and tripling down when he realized he was in the wrong instead of just saying "whoops".
In the video of the guy with them taking away Scheffler in handcuffs you can see them being complete ****s to the guy with the camera, and then as soon as he says "I'm media" they get fake polite and pretend they're acting reasonably.
Shortly before his scheduled second round 10:08 a.m. ET tee time, Scheffler released a statement about the incident.
"This morning, I was proceeding as directed by police officers. It was a very chaotic situation, understandably so considering the tragic accident that had occurred earlier, and there was a big misunderstanding of what I thought I was being asked to do. I never intended to disregard any of the instructions. I'm hopeful to put this to the side and focus on golf today.
"Of course, all of us involved in the tournament express our deepest sympathies to the family of the man who passed away in the earlier accident this morning. It truly puts everything in perspective."
Scheffler began his round by hitting a birdie putt to move within four strokes of leader Xander Schauffele.
Assault a cop with a deadly weapon is the direction the police are going here?Scottie Scheffler police report: Officer who tried to stop golfer 'transported to hospital'
Scheffler was back at Valhalla Golf Club in time for his second-round tee time.sports.yahoo.com
Police released a statement that said Scottie knocked him down with the car and dragged him.
I'd like to see the training curriculum for such a maneuver.I'd like to know what "attached himself" to the car really means. Did he throw himself on the hood or something?
I'd like to know what "attached himself" to the car really means. Did he throw himself on the hood or something?
I'd like to know what "attached himself" to the car really means. Did he throw himself on the hood or something?
My assumption is "clutched hard on a door handle, mirror, etc. and refuse to let go as the car was moving". The following is all speculation, but feasible:I'd like to know what "attached himself" to the car really means. Did he throw himself on the hood or something?
You must be new around here.Why stake out a position and get invested in it when there's a good chance that that take will look foolish in the light of day?
Do cops ever not double down?Seems like both sides are doubling down.
Scheffler lawyer statement on the incident
Meanwhile Louisville PD now reporting that the officer, who I think is the same one seen in Darlington's video marching Scheffler in cuffs without any sign of a hitch in his giddy-up, has been "transported to the hospital for treatment by emergency medical personnel, after being dragged by Scheffler's vehicle". Sadly, it also notes that his uniform pants, valued at $80, were damaged "beyond repair".
According to a Louisville Metro Police report obtained, Scheffler was trying to gain access to the golf course when he was stopped by an officer wearing a full police uniform and a yellow reflective rain jacket. The officer, identified as Det. Bryan Gillis, stopped Scheffler and attempted to give instructions.
Current reporting: https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/17/sport/scottie-scheffler-detained/index.html“Subject refused to comply and accelerated forward, dragging Detective Gillis to the ground,” the report states .
The detective suffered pain, swelling and abrasions to his left wrist and knee and was taken to the hospital for further treatment, the report states. His uniform pants, valued at about $80, “were damaged beyond repair,” the report adds.
Louisville police are expected to make a statement about the arrest on Friday after reviewing video of the incident, a senior law enforcement official said. Preliminary information indicates an officer tried to stop Scheffler from going around the detour, and Scheffler‘s car made contact with that officer.
LMPD in full PR mode. Need to make things look/sound as bad as they can. Oh, he was badly hurt. He had to go to the ER.Seems like both sides are doubling down.
Scheffler lawyer statement on the incident
Meanwhile Louisville PD now reporting that the officer, who I think is the same one seen in Darlington's video marching Scheffler in cuffs without any sign of a hitch in his giddy-up, has been "transported to the hospital for treatment by emergency medical personnel, after being dragged by Scheffler's vehicle". Sadly, it also notes that his uniform pants, valued at $80, were damaged "beyond repair".
Really hope they show the video. If it's as bad as they say it is, no reason not to.According to a Louisville Metro Police report obtained, Scheffler was trying to gain access to the golf course when he was stopped by an officer wearing a full police uniform and a yellow reflective rain jacket. The officer, identified as Det. Bryan Gillis, stopped Scheffler and attempted to give instructions.Current reporting: https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/17/sport/scottie-scheffler-detained/index.html“Subject refused to comply and accelerated forward, dragging Detective Gillis to the ground,” the report states .
The detective suffered pain, swelling and abrasions to his left wrist and knee and was taken to the hospital for further treatment, the report states. His uniform pants, valued at about $80, “were damaged beyond repair,” the report adds.
Louisville police are expected to make a statement about the arrest on Friday after reviewing video of the incident, a senior law enforcement official said. Preliminary information indicates an officer tried to stop Scheffler from going around the detour, and Scheffler‘s car made contact with that officer.
Seems like both sides are doubling down.
Scheffler lawyer statement on the incident
Meanwhile Louisville PD now reporting that the officer, who I think is the same one seen in Darlington's video marching Scheffler in cuffs without any sign of a hitch in his giddy-up, has been "transported to the hospital for treatment by emergency medical personnel, after being dragged by Scheffler's vehicle". Sadly, it also notes that his uniform pants, valued at $80, were damaged "beyond repair".
Really hope they show the video. If it's as bad as they say it is, no reason not to.
Seems like both sides are doubling down.
Scheffler lawyer statement on the incident
Meanwhile Louisville PD now reporting that the officer, who I think is the same one seen in Darlington's video marching Scheffler in cuffs without any sign of a hitch in his giddy-up, has been "transported to the hospital for treatment by emergency medical personnel, after being dragged by Scheffler's vehicle". Sadly, it also notes that his uniform pants, valued at $80, were damaged "beyond repair".
Oh no! The pants are beyond repair. Yikes!! Next we're gonna find out the shoes are scuffed.
Really hope they show the video. If it's as bad as they say it is, no reason not to.
Yup, hope we get to see this. If we don't, we know it's not bad at all.
Holy Crap Your pants, Batman!Seems like both sides are doubling down.
Scheffler lawyer statement on the incident
Meanwhile Louisville PD now reporting that the officer, who I think is the same one seen in Darlington's video marching Scheffler in cuffs without any sign of a hitch in his giddy-up, has been "transported to the hospital for treatment by emergency medical personnel, after being dragged by Scheffler's vehicle". Sadly, it also notes that his uniform pants, valued at $80, were damaged "beyond repair".
I've been pulled over about 5 times in my life. Every interaction was cordial.Just shows you how police treat so many people. They escalate everything. I'm a white old normal-as-can-be looking male and I've never had a cop be nice to me. Speeding 5 MPH over once...total asses and explained how I should slow down because I "clearly break the speed limit all time time"...only time I've gotten a speeding ticket. 5 MPH. Crossing the road at a crosswalk to a tennis event ... got put in handcuffs for 30 mins in fron tof my kids because apparently we were supposed to wait. 90% of them assume people are bad, and go from there. Rather than simply keeping the peace and being nice. Their instructions are often unclear in situations like this. I appreciate what they do, but most are HS educated and not the brightest. I may not be a Scheffler fan, but he's obviously not the type to ignore what he thinks a cop is trying to tell him. The officer yelling obscenities is pretty typical of a policeman with an inflated ego of his traffic control job. I hope this guy loses his job
Same. Well, I've been pulled over more than just 5 times, but it's been at least a decade since anybody actually wrote me a ticket. It's all warnings and "have a good day, sir" these days. Of course, I'm older now and I live in a very laid-back part of the country. I don't doubt Brunnell's account of his experiences.I've been pulled over about 5 times in my life. Every interaction was cordial.Just shows you how police treat so many people. They escalate everything. I'm a white old normal-as-can-be looking male and I've never had a cop be nice to me. Speeding 5 MPH over once...total asses and explained how I should slow down because I "clearly break the speed limit all time time"...only time I've gotten a speeding ticket. 5 MPH. Crossing the road at a crosswalk to a tennis event ... got put in handcuffs for 30 mins in fron tof my kids because apparently we were supposed to wait. 90% of them assume people are bad, and go from there. Rather than simply keeping the peace and being nice. Their instructions are often unclear in situations like this. I appreciate what they do, but most are HS educated and not the brightest. I may not be a Scheffler fan, but he's obviously not the type to ignore what he thinks a cop is trying to tell him. The officer yelling obscenities is pretty typical of a policeman with an inflated ego of his traffic control job. I hope this guy loses his job
I'll tell you why...for the exact reasons I cannot even believe I'm reading...I don't blame the police at all, I'm sure Scheffler drove like a maniac around the accident rather than take it slow and show some respect for the officers forced to be out there
Really? How could you possibly be SURE of that.
Obviously we dont know exactly what "the officer attached himself to the car" means. (and if he was holding on and Scottie kept driving and dragged him, that's obviously not ok) but 99.9999% chance this was just a misunderstanding compounded with it being dark and rainy and things just got out of hand. I seriously doubt Scottie just said "Oh well....gotta get to the putting green" and slalomed through a police barricade doing 30.
It's a little bit of both...on one hand I say the police were hell bent...nobody reads that part of courseYou don't REALLY think it sounds that way, right? I mean I know you're MOP but still ...The irony that JB threw this up a few weeks ago, I never thought I'd see this even after reading the news feed on Scheffler this morning
- 2nd degree assault on officer
- 3rd degree criminal mischief
- Reckless driving
- Disregarding traffic signals from an officer direction traffic
Sounds like he simply didn't want to wait and tried to drive around the accident since he's the #1 golfer in the world and the police were hell bent on taking him away
I don't blame the police at all, I'm sure Scheffler drove like a maniac around the accident rather than take it slow and show some respect for the officers forced to be out there
-Don't think any officer was actually hurt or injured so the charges should mostly go away, he might have to do some community service
The guy with everything to lose is going to willfully do something like that? Again, I totally doubt itIt's a little bit of both...on one hand I say the police were hell bent...nobody reads that part of courseYou don't REALLY think it sounds that way, right? I mean I know you're MOP but still ...The irony that JB threw this up a few weeks ago, I never thought I'd see this even after reading the news feed on Scheffler this morning
- 2nd degree assault on officer
- 3rd degree criminal mischief
- Reckless driving
- Disregarding traffic signals from an officer direction traffic
Sounds like he simply didn't want to wait and tried to drive around the accident since he's the #1 golfer in the world and the police were hell bent on taking him away
I don't blame the police at all, I'm sure Scheffler drove like a maniac around the accident rather than take it slow and show some respect for the officers forced to be out there
-Don't think any officer was actually hurt or injured so the charges should mostly go away, he might have to do some community service
Then I place the blame at the #1 golfer in the world with money to burn right now...
People seem to miss my ability to walk a fine line around here
Just par for the course when you're MoP
I did write "cops were hellbent"As others have pointed out, there's no reason why anybody should be sure that he was driving like a maniac. We weren't there, and that seems like a much less likely explanation than "honest miscommunication."The irony that JB threw this up a few weeks ago, I never thought I'd see this even after reading the news feed on Scheffler this morning
- 2nd degree assault on officer
- 3rd degree criminal mischief
- Reckless driving
- Disregarding traffic signals from an officer direction traffic
Sounds like he simply didn't want to wait and tried to drive around the accident since he's the #1 golfer in the world and the police were hell bent on taking him away
I don't blame the police at all, I'm sure Scheffler drove like a maniac around the accident rather than take it slow and show some respect for the officers forced to be out there
-Don't think any officer was actually hurt or injured so the charges should mostly go away, he might have to do some community service
But more generally, there is never any downside to reserving judgement when stuff like this happens. Everybody on the planet is walking around with video cameras, and there may be body camera footage too. Why stake out a position and get invested in it when there's a good chance that that take will look foolish in the light of day?
Come hang out in Palm Beach where people think the law and rules do not apply based on income or net worthThe guy with everything to lose is going to willfully do something like that? Again, I totally doubt itIt's a little bit of both...on one hand I say the police were hell bent...nobody reads that part of courseYou don't REALLY think it sounds that way, right? I mean I know you're MOP but still ...The irony that JB threw this up a few weeks ago, I never thought I'd see this even after reading the news feed on Scheffler this morning
- 2nd degree assault on officer
- 3rd degree criminal mischief
- Reckless driving
- Disregarding traffic signals from an officer direction traffic
Sounds like he simply didn't want to wait and tried to drive around the accident since he's the #1 golfer in the world and the police were hell bent on taking him away
I don't blame the police at all, I'm sure Scheffler drove like a maniac around the accident rather than take it slow and show some respect for the officers forced to be out there
-Don't think any officer was actually hurt or injured so the charges should mostly go away, he might have to do some community service
Then I place the blame at the #1 golfer in the world with money to burn right now...
People seem to miss my ability to walk a fine line around here
Just par for the course when you're MoP
And which category do we think Scheffler falls in?Come hang out in Palm Beach where people think the law and rules do not apply based on income or net worthThe guy with everything to lose is going to willfully do something like that? Again, I totally doubt itIt's a little bit of both...on one hand I say the police were hell bent...nobody reads that part of courseYou don't REALLY think it sounds that way, right? I mean I know you're MOP but still ...The irony that JB threw this up a few weeks ago, I never thought I'd see this even after reading the news feed on Scheffler this morning
- 2nd degree assault on officer
- 3rd degree criminal mischief
- Reckless driving
- Disregarding traffic signals from an officer direction traffic
Sounds like he simply didn't want to wait and tried to drive around the accident since he's the #1 golfer in the world and the police were hell bent on taking him away
I don't blame the police at all, I'm sure Scheffler drove like a maniac around the accident rather than take it slow and show some respect for the officers forced to be out there
-Don't think any officer was actually hurt or injured so the charges should mostly go away, he might have to do some community service
Then I place the blame at the #1 golfer in the world with money to burn right now...
People seem to miss my ability to walk a fine line around here
Just par for the course when you're MoP
And BTW, it's been my experience going back to the 90s, back to the days in the early 2000s when I was rolling thru Cali, never changes
Money makes GOOD people BETTER and BAD people WORSE
Take it the bank Brohans
@SWC how am I doing?
Not sure which side of the river you are on, but Fairfax County cops are famous in the US for traffic stops. And being angry in general. It's an enormous revenue machine for the County. MD has speed cameras. VA uses their police to hand out tickets as often as possible. I live within 100 yards of a police station in the burbs. I watch them stop people every day within a minute of them pulling out of their back parking lot. Gotta hit the quota.I've been pulled over about 5 times in my life. Every interaction was cordial.Just shows you how police treat so many people. They escalate everything. I'm a white old normal-as-can-be looking male and I've never had a cop be nice to me. Speeding 5 MPH over once...total asses and explained how I should slow down because I "clearly break the speed limit all time time"...only time I've gotten a speeding ticket. 5 MPH. Crossing the road at a crosswalk to a tennis event ... got put in handcuffs for 30 mins in fron tof my kids because apparently we were supposed to wait. 90% of them assume people are bad, and go from there. Rather than simply keeping the peace and being nice. Their instructions are often unclear in situations like this. I appreciate what they do, but most are HS educated and not the brightest. I may not be a Scheffler fan, but he's obviously not the type to ignore what he thinks a cop is trying to tell him. The officer yelling obscenities is pretty typical of a policeman with an inflated ego of his traffic control job. I hope this guy loses his job
there are plenty of videos of the incident on Twitter and he was most definitely driving about 2 miles an hour at the most.
I got a speeding ticket (going 5 MPH over the speed limit on a highway in Santa Barbara, CA) on my college graduation day coming home from my graduation brunch w/ my family. The last thing the idiot cop said to me as he handed me my ticket was "here's your graduation gift". Oh, and the dolt wrote my driver's license number down wrong. I called the court to try to get out of it because of that and they just laughed and said that it would "eventually get corrected".Just shows you how police treat so many people. They escalate everything. I'm a white old normal-as-can-be looking male and I've never had a cop be nice to me. Speeding 5 MPH over once...total asses and explained how I should slow down because I "clearly break the speed limit all time time"...only time I've gotten a speeding ticket. 5 MPH. Crossing the road at a crosswalk to a tennis event ... got put in handcuffs for 30 mins in fron tof my kids because apparently we were supposed to wait. 90% of them assume people are bad, and go from there. Rather than simply keeping the peace and being nice. Their instructions are often unclear in situations like this. I appreciate what they do, but most are HS educated and not the brightest. I may not be a Scheffler fan, but he's obviously not the type to ignore what he thinks a cop is trying to tell him. The officer yelling obscenities is pretty typical of a policeman with an inflated ego of his traffic control job. I hope this guy loses his job