***OFFICIAL*** Washington Redskins 2012 Off Season Thread (2 Viewers)

[fatness]

John Keim ‏

#redskins take Alfred Morris, RB from Florida Atlantic in the 6th round

 

[Steel Dillo]

John Keim ‏

#redskins take Alfred Morris, RB from Florida Atlantic in the 6th round

He's goin to be your starting RB by the n of he year.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

John Keim ‏

#redskins take Alfred Morris, RB from Florida Atlantic in the 6th round

He's goin to be your starting RB by the n of he year.

um no

 

[fatness]

Last 4 picks

Running back Alfred Morris (sixth round, 173) Florida Atlantic. He finished his career as Florida Atlantic’s all-time leading rusher (3,529 yards) and touchdowns (27) and rushing yards per game (75.1). One scout said of Morris, “He’s a real thick strong, tough runner like [utah State’s] Robert Turbin. You can rotate him in and out. Not a game-breaker speed guy, but he’ll run low and physical and strong.”

Morris said he’s expecting to play both running back and fullback. The Redskins need depth at both spots. “I’m a running back but I’m not too proud to put my hand in the dirt,” he said.But Morris had an issue with fumbles – 16 in 762 career carries.

Tackle Tom Compton (sixth round, 193), South Dakota. Compton started two years at left tackle and two years at right tackle and said he has worked at guard this offseason. So he offers the Redskins versatility. He’s also strong, having squatted 700 pounds a year ago.

Compton said South Dakota used some zone blocking, which is what the Redskins use. “The style of athlete that I’ve been described as kind of fits that scheme,” he said.

Cornerback Richard Crawford (seventh round, 213), SMU. The 5-foot-11, 189-pound Crawford exited a visit to Redskins Park two weeks ago feeling good about his chances of landing in Washington. “I thought I would end up here,” he said. Now he just needs to make the roster, which will be difficult even with a need for a corner who can cover in the slot. But Crawford has two things going for him: he said he’s comfortable covering in the slot and he can help as a return specialist. Crawford also said SMU ran a similar defense as Washington, but with much more complexities in the scheme it’ll still be a transition.

He’s the third SMU player drafted by Washington the past two years and the second this year. The Redskins picked Josh LeRibeus in the third round. LeRibeus lost 70 pounds a year ago. “We used to call him Xbox 360 because he was 360,” Crawford said.

Safety Jordan Bernstine (seventh round, 217), Iowa. He started one year at strong safety for the Hawkeyes, spending the rest of his time at corner. At 5-foot-11, 205 pounds he has decent size for strong safety. He said he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.42 seconds – that speed would be welcomed at safety.

 

[Sebowski]

Last 4 picks

Running back Alfred Morris (sixth round, 173) Florida Atlantic. He finished his career as Florida Atlantic’s all-time leading rusher (3,529 yards) and touchdowns (27) and rushing yards per game (75.1). One scout said of Morris, “He’s a real thick strong, tough runner like [utah State’s] Robert Turbin. You can rotate him in and out. Not a game-breaker speed guy, but he’ll run low and physical and strong.”

Morris said he’s expecting to play both running back and fullback. The Redskins need depth at both spots. “I’m a running back but I’m not too proud to put my hand in the dirt,” he said.But Morris had an issue with fumbles – 16 in 762 career carries.

Tackle Tom Compton (sixth round, 193), South Dakota. Compton started two years at left tackle and two years at right tackle and said he has worked at guard this offseason. So he offers the Redskins versatility. He’s also strong, having squatted 700 pounds a year ago.

Compton said South Dakota used some zone blocking, which is what the Redskins use. “The style of athlete that I’ve been described as kind of fits that scheme,” he said.

Cornerback Richard Crawford (seventh round, 213), SMU. The 5-foot-11, 189-pound Crawford exited a visit to Redskins Park two weeks ago feeling good about his chances of landing in Washington. “I thought I would end up here,” he said. Now he just needs to make the roster, which will be difficult even with a need for a corner who can cover in the slot. But Crawford has two things going for him: he said he’s comfortable covering in the slot and he can help as a return specialist. Crawford also said SMU ran a similar defense as Washington, but with much more complexities in the scheme it’ll still be a transition.

He’s the third SMU player drafted by Washington the past two years and the second this year. The Redskins picked Josh LeRibeus in the third round. LeRibeus lost 70 pounds a year ago. “We used to call him Xbox 360 because he was 360,” Crawford said.

Safety Jordan Bernstine (seventh round, 217), Iowa. He started one year at strong safety for the Hawkeyes, spending the rest of his time at corner. At 5-foot-11, 205 pounds he has decent size for strong safety. He said he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.42 seconds – that speed would be welcomed at safety.

Championship!

 

[Marvelous]

Once again, I don't know anything about any of these players outside of RG3. So we need to trust that Shanahan/Allen picked some good players.

I actually like the Cousins pick. I said before they needed to get two new QBs in the offseason and did not put drafting two QBs beyond them. The 4th round is higher than I would have thought, but if he is a good value, then I like the pick.

I like that they drafted 3 OL, with one in the 3rd round. It looks like they are serious about improving the OL play.

I think Shanahan drafts a RB in every draft. No surprise he took on in the 6th round.

I thought they may have spent more on the secondary than two 7th round draft picks. But you can't get everything in every draft.

Once again, the whole key is that they picked the right players, not that they necessarily picked players in the biggest position of need.

 

[fatness]

Championship!

It's going to be tough for other teams to break through the Jordan Bernstine/Richard Crawford wall. They'll probably just punt on first down.

 

[fatness]

Once again, I don't know anything about any of these players outside of RG3. So we need to trust that Shanahan/Allen picked some good players.

I like that they picked a good number of players at positions of need, and don't look like they reached for any of them (besides Griffin, but that was a reach worth making in my opinion). 3 offensive linemen, an ILB, starting and backup QB's, the perennial RB, and some DB's to look at. I'm glad they didn't waste picks drafting WR's. I saw a lot of teams draft WR's that I thought were reaches. There are only so many resources available to a team each year, and the Redskins had already addressed WR in free agency so to me it wasn't a draft priority. I think they'll still be looking for TE and OT help.

 

[fatness]

I like this guy.

The Washington Redskins said 19,880 people showed up. Some presidential conventions are smaller. And, to Washingtonians, maybe less important. At this meet-and-greet with his new best friends, the Redskins No. 1 draft pick, who is at ease with sick children, cameras, teammates, celebrities and virtually anybody he meets, finally looked just a tiny bit nervous and overwhelmed, as though the enormity and perhaps ridiculousness of the scene had finally hit home. “I think they are ready to win. I think that’s why they are here,” Griffin said to the throng. “You guys bring the excitement.”

Then he waved his arm for more volume, but got a response he probably hadn’t expected. Instead of a Redskins yell, not the most productive use of lung capacity in recent years, the crowd instead bellowed, “RGIII” over and over. That's not who Griffin is. Calling his first FedEx audible, Griffin switched focus to the Redskins fight song.

“Hail to the Redskins, hail victory,” he sang. But he hadn’t learned the rest. You can bet he will, since it follows touchdowns. So he stuck his mic toward the crowd so they could belt it out, down to “fight for old D.C.".

“You can never walk up to a 30-year-old man when you are 22 and tell him what to do. I have to earn his respect,” said Griffin of his role as instant team leader. “I’m here to work. It’s not about show . . .

He’s memorizing facts about his new teammates and doesn’t mind if they know it. “I am lookin’ ’em up,” he says.

But Griffin’s suitability for the spotlight, his equilibrium with it, is now obvious. “Some call it a whirlwind,” said Griffin of the last few days. “I saw seven different variations of my name on shirts yesterday. I just go with the flow. It’s all part of the gig. You have to try to wrap your mind around it.

“But it can be difficult,” he conceded, before adding the perfect RGIII touch. “I hope it gets even worse, because that means we’ll be winning.”

 

[fatness]

Redskins draft picksWashington Redskins2012 Draft BoardRound	Pick #	Player	Pos.1	2	Robert. Griffin III	QB3	8	Josh. LeRibeus	         G4	7	Kirk. Cousins	        QB4	24	Keenan. Robinson	LB5	6	Adam. Gettis	         G6	3	Alfred. Morris	        RB6	24	Tom. Compton	         T7	6	Richard. Crawford	CB7	10	Jordan. Bernstine	CB

 

[TxBuckeye]

Can anyone explain the Cousins pick to me? So many needs, and this seems like a total throwaway of their third pick of the draft. Grossman isn't a starter, we know that. But he's definitely a suitable backup. What was the point of taking a developmental QB that may SOME DAY become an NFL quality QB? Was the QB coach afraid he wasn't going to be busy enough working with the man you traded half your draft for? He was afraid he needed a second QB to develop with all his spare time? This pick just seems like a complete and utter waste for a team that has a lot of holes to fill. I'm surprised to not see a lot more backlash on that pick.

 

[ExaltedOne]

Can anyone explain the Cousins pick to me? So many needs, and this seems like a total throwaway of their third pick of the draft. Grossman isn't a starter, we know that. But he's definitely a suitable backup. What was the point of taking a developmental QB that may SOME DAY become an NFL quality QB? Was the QB coach afraid he wasn't going to be busy enough working with the man you traded half your draft for? He was afraid he needed a second QB to develop with all his spare time? This pick just seems like a complete and utter waste for a team that has a lot of holes to fill. I'm surprised to not see a lot more backlash on that pick.

I thought Cousins was a good pick. He was a huge value in the 4th round, and quarterback is the most important position in football. I don't expect him to start for us, but having a backup you can count on in this league is very important. If he shows up well in a couple of games, we could trade him for a 2nd rounder + ala Cassel/Kolb. If management had Cousins at the top of the board and nobody else they liked, then they made the right decision. Having needs doesn't mean you should go away from BPA.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Some excellent draft analysis here

 

[BassNBrew]

Can anyone explain the Cousins pick to me? So many needs, and this seems like a total throwaway of their third pick of the draft. Grossman isn't a starter, we know that. But he's definitely a suitable backup. What was the point of taking a developmental QB that may SOME DAY become an NFL quality QB? Was the QB coach afraid he wasn't going to be busy enough working with the man you traded half your draft for? He was afraid he needed a second QB to develop with all his spare time? This pick just seems like a complete and utter waste for a team that has a lot of holes to fill. I'm surprised to not see a lot more backlash on that pick.

I thought Cousins was a good pick. He was a huge value in the 4th round, and quarterback is the most important position in football. I don't expect him to start for us, but having a backup you can count on in this league is very important. If he shows up well in a couple of games, we could trade him for a 2nd rounder + ala Cassel/Kolb. If management had Cousins at the top of the board and nobody else they liked, then they made the right decision. Having needs doesn't mean you should go away from BPA.

It was a total boned headed pick. Best case situation is that you trade him for a second in two years. If he doesn't play you haven;t even gotten the utility out of the pick to offset the declining time value. The only way he'll show up well is if you put developement time into him. Not real smart taking that time away from RG3 after you mortgaged the future for him.

 

[Hang 10]

For those that don't like the Cousins pick, they must not buy into the BPA draft philosophy. Otherwise, what's not to like at the pick? We're talking about the 4th round here, so more than likely you're not getting a starter for 2012 unless you're incredibly lucky or your team is terrible. So basically that means you're drafting for depth. What's wrong with drafting for depth at QB? You guys really want us to be one hit away from Grossman for the foreseeable future? I don't.

Let's face it. The Skins aren't super bowl contenders for 2012, so why do you expect them to fill EVERY need in this draft? You really think there was a starting safety sitting there and they passed on him? Please. They're trying to build a team here and unfortunately that takes time.

 

[BassNBrew]

For those that don't like the Cousins pick, they must not buy into the BPA draft philosophy. Otherwise, what's not to like at the pick? We're talking about the 4th round here, so more than likely you're not getting a starter for 2012 unless you're incredibly lucky or your team is terrible. So basically that means you're drafting for depth. What's wrong with drafting for depth at QB? You guys really want us to be one hit away from Grossman for the foreseeable future? I don't. Let's face it. The Skins aren't super bowl contenders for 2012, so why do you expect them to fill EVERY need in this draft? You really think there was a starting safety sitting there and they passed on him? Please. They're trying to build a team here and unfortunately that takes time.

1. Your team is terrible.2. In lieu of number one, there were starters available out there.The only way this pick makes sense is if you don't have faith in RG3.

 

[Hang 10]

For those that don't like the Cousins pick, they must not buy into the BPA draft philosophy. Otherwise, what's not to like at the pick? We're talking about the 4th round here, so more than likely you're not getting a starter for 2012 unless you're incredibly lucky or your team is terrible. So basically that means you're drafting for depth. What's wrong with drafting for depth at QB? You guys really want us to be one hit away from Grossman for the foreseeable future? I don't. Let's face it. The Skins aren't super bowl contenders for 2012, so why do you expect them to fill EVERY need in this draft? You really think there was a starting safety sitting there and they passed on him? Please. They're trying to build a team here and unfortunately that takes time.

1. Your team is terrible.2. In lieu of number one, there were starters available out there.The only way this pick makes sense is if you don't have faith in RG3.

1. I'm sure you really know the Skins roster well. 2. What does faith have to do with it? Why have a backup QB at all if you have "faith" in your starter? Maybe they don't have faith in Rex Grossman. Y'know, sometimes these guys get hurt.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Sounds like having the redskins coaches at the senior bowl was really helpful. http://rosterwatch.com/?p=3129

Like he usually does, new Redskins franchise QB Robert Griffin III handled himself with class when asked about the unusual drafting of Michigan State QB Kirk Cousins by the Redskins. Griffin said he looks forward to “growing” with Cousins, not “competing”.We were at the Senior Bowl and to be honest, we kind of saw this coming. Shanahan is a plotting man, and he saw the competitive fire and spirit that Cousins played and practiced with in Mobile. If you were there in any capacity, Cousins’ presence was undeniable. He saw that Kirk Cousins handles himself like a presidential candidate and competes like one. We see this as a great move by Shanahan to make sure that RG3 does not grow a sense of complacency in the catbird’s seat at QB. I do stand by the fact that I believe Kirk Cousins is the 4th best QB in this draft, and I think Shanahan believes that as well after coaching Brandon Weeden on the South Squad. They get a valuable trade piece moving forward, and in the best case scenario can deal Cousins a la Matt Flynn or other recent backup signal-callers in an attempt to gain back some of the picks it took to get this year’s number two spot from the Rams.

 

[Buck Stop]

if BassNBrew doesn't like the Cousins pick, you know its the right pick.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/redskins-confidential/2012/04/shanahan-pleased-redskins-draft/548791



Shanahan pleased with Redskins draft

The final scorecard on the Redskins draft: Six offensive players; nine players total; two quarterbacks, two guards, one tackle, one running back, one corner, one safety and a linebacker.

And, of course, it was deemed a successful draft.

“I was pleased at the end result,” Redskins coach Mike Shanahan said.

But the story of the day involved the Redskins taking a second quarterback, Kirk Cousins, from Michigan State in the fourth round after taking Robert Griffin III in the first. Clearly Griffin is the quarterback of the future.

“Anytime you get a quarterback like Robert in the second pick of the draft… he’s your franchise quarterback,” Shanahan said. “He’ll be your quarterback for the next decade. I’ve always enjoyed an offense where you can move the quarterback around with the exceptional speed that he has. To be able to drop back as well as throw on the move, that just doesn’t happen very often.”

But he viewed Cousins as too tempting to pass up, despite holes at other positions. Shanahan said added depth allowed him the luxury of taking Cousins. He also pointed out how many times he’s lost players in games to injuries.

“In that fourth round you’re trying to find people that can make your team,” he said. “We have to have depth to win and you want quality. If you see quality in the fourth round…. Hopefully it doesn’t happen [an injury to Griffin] but you want to be prepared it if does. I thought it was a steal for us at that position.

“Kirk is a very smart guy. I said to him I couldn’t pass you up. I’m sure he knows he’s going to be a backup, but you’re one play away or two plays away from being a starter. I’m hoping Robert for the next 10 years never misses a game.”

Shanahan said he also spoke to Griffin early on Saturday about the possibility of the Redskins taking another quarterback.

“He knows he’s our franchise guy and he knows he’s our future,” Shanahan said. “He was pretty good about it. He understood. He does have a lot of confidence; he’s not afraid.”

Here’s what Shanahan had to say about the rest of the draft picks:

G/C Josh LaRiebus: “He has pretty good size. He does have quickness. He can play center or guard. He’s extremely bright. We’re very happy to get him.”

LB Keenan Robinson: “We liked his speed. One of the reasons why we drafted him is that we had him at the Senior Bowl. He’s a quality young man. I like the way he handles himself. I thought he could fit in well.”

G/C Adam Gettis: “He has the quickness we look for, kind of like Kory. He can play center or guard. He has speed. You never have enough depth on that offensive line. That’s why it was big for us to get three offensive linemen. We’re not sure when they would go. All three of the guys we got we targeted. We’re very happy with the depth on the line.”

OT Tom Compton: “He has great speed and quickness. That’s what we look for in our tackles. He did a great job in our agility drills as well as the 40-yard dash and he has the flexibility to play both sides.”

RB Alfred Morris: “I liked his running style. He has the ability to make people miss. He has great lateral quickness and he can cut on a dime. Now we’ll get a chance to see how he competes with the other backs. A lot of times you need four or five guys. … He’s a tailback.”

CB Richard Crawford and Jordan Bernstine: “Bernstine is a safety. Crawford has the possibility to play inside in a nickel and is also a punt returner. He has some value.”

 

[southeastjerome]

Can anyone explain the Cousins pick to me? So many needs, and this seems like a total throwaway of their third pick of the draft. Grossman isn't a starter, we know that. But he's definitely a suitable backup. What was the point of taking a developmental QB that may SOME DAY become an NFL quality QB? Was the QB coach afraid he wasn't going to be busy enough working with the man you traded half your draft for? He was afraid he needed a second QB to develop with all his spare time? This pick just seems like a complete and utter waste for a team that has a lot of holes to fill. I'm surprised to not see a lot more backlash on that pick.

I thought Cousins was a good pick. He was a huge value in the 4th round, and quarterback is the most important position in football. I don't expect him to start for us, but having a backup you can count on in this league is very important. If he shows up well in a couple of games, we could trade him for a 2nd rounder + ala Cassel/Kolb. If management had Cousins at the top of the board and nobody else they liked, then they made the right decision. Having needs doesn't mean you should go away from BPA.

It was a total boned headed pick. Best case situation is that you trade him for a second in two years. If he doesn't play you haven;t even gotten the utility out of the pick to offset the declining time value. The only way he'll show up well is if you put developement time into him. Not real smart taking that time away from RG3 after you mortgaged the future for him.

I'm sure they'll have plenty and time attention to develop both players. It's not like this is high school. What's being overlooked here is that Cousins is insurance should something happen to RG3 injury or otherwise. Obviously Grossman is not the answer at backup.

 

[fatness]

1. Your team is terrible.

You guys have to forgive BassNBrew. He's a Panthers fan, and they suck, and he's feeling better if he can point out a shorter midget. Plus he's probably ticked that Tebow got more press than Newton last year, and that this year Luck and/or Griffin may get more. Hopefully there aren't any Skins fans immature enough to go over to the Colts and Browns and Vikings threads telling them their teams suck.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Can anyone explain the Cousins pick to me? So many needs, and this seems like a total throwaway of their third pick of the draft. Grossman isn't a starter, we know that. But he's definitely a suitable backup. What was the point of taking a developmental QB that may SOME DAY become an NFL quality QB? Was the QB coach afraid he wasn't going to be busy enough working with the man you traded half your draft for? He was afraid he needed a second QB to develop with all his spare time? This pick just seems like a complete and utter waste for a team that has a lot of holes to fill. I'm surprised to not see a lot more backlash on that pick.

I thought Cousins was a good pick. He was a huge value in the 4th round, and quarterback is the most important position in football. I don't expect him to start for us, but having a backup you can count on in this league is very important. If he shows up well in a couple of games, we could trade him for a 2nd rounder + ala Cassel/Kolb. If management had Cousins at the top of the board and nobody else they liked, then they made the right decision. Having needs doesn't mean you should go away from BPA.

It was a total boned headed pick. Best case situation is that you trade him for a second in two years. If he doesn't play you haven;t even gotten the utility out of the pick to offset the declining time value. The only way he'll show up well is if you put developement time into him. Not real smart taking that time away from RG3 after you mortgaged the future for him.

I'm sure they'll have plenty and time attention to develop both players. It's not like this is high school. What's being overlooked here is that Cousins is insurance should something happen to RG3 injury or otherwise. Obviously Grossman is not the answer at backup.

Cowboys fan here sooo....I like the pick. If you're going to be spending the amount of time and resources developing a rookie QB, why not bring another guy right along with him? They can help/study together and push each other in practice/meetings.It was good value and a smart move, something I haven't said about the Redskins (or Shanny) lately.

 

[Harjiran]

With RG3 and Cousins, the Skins are set at QB for a long time and that's a refreshing change. My only quibble is what they did with their second 4th rounder -- trading down with the Steelers, who took NT Alameda Ta'amu with our pick. That guy would have looked good in burgundy and gold.

 

[RGIII HTTR]

Granted it's not in the same year, but why are teams like NE, PHI, GB and such given great credit when they take a QB because you just can't pass up the value and with 'Skins is got to be something else?

NE takes Mallet, PHI took Kolb (2nd rnder at that) when McNabb was there, GB takes Rogers and then Flynn and Brohm.

Hey, I was not crazy about it because I know the holes on the team, but it's not the end of the world either. They basically released Beck as soon as the knew they had Cousins, which is major plus. My guess, they are putting up with RG3nOut/RGInt for only one more season. Hmmm...could that be the real reason?

Amazing how the when the 'Skins stock pile FA's they are trying to buy a Championship, but when the Iggles do it...that organization is on top of it and building themselves to be a force for years to come. Now, there has to be a faith issue with RG3, go sell crazy elsewhere...we're all stocked up here!

 

[MikeApf]

For those that don't like the Cousins pick, they must not buy into the BPA draft philosophy. Otherwise, what's not to like at the pick? We're talking about the 4th round here, so more than likely you're not getting a starter for 2012 unless you're incredibly lucky or your team is terrible. So basically that means you're drafting for depth. What's wrong with drafting for depth at QB? You guys really want us to be one hit away from Grossman for the foreseeable future? I don't. Let's face it. The Skins aren't super bowl contenders for 2012, so why do you expect them to fill EVERY need in this draft? You really think there was a starting safety sitting there and they passed on him? Please. They're trying to build a team here and unfortunately that takes time.

1. Your team is terrible.2. In lieu of number one, there were starters available out there.The only way this pick makes sense is if you don't have faith in RG3.

1. I'm sure you really know the Skins roster well. 2. What does faith have to do with it? Why have a backup QB at all if you have "faith" in your starter? Maybe they don't have faith in Rex Grossman. Y'know, sometimes these guys get hurt.

I can't believe there is even a debate around the Cousins pick. Having a solid backup QB is essential. Look at what happened to the Colts when Manning went down. Obviously the Redskins don't see Grossman as having an extensive shelf life as a backup and want to groom a new backup. That makes total sense, honestly. Redskins fans routinely talk of getting depth at Offensive Line and Secondary, and QB is even more crucial. I would kind of question the football smarts of any who doesn't understand why they would take Cousins..

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Granted it's not in the same year, but why are teams like NE, PHI, GB and such given great credit when they take a QB because you just can't pass up the value and with 'Skins is got to be something else?

NE takes Mallet, PHI took Kolb (2nd rnder at that) when McNabb was there, GB takes Rogers and then Flynn and Brohm.

Hey, I was not crazy about it because I know the holes on the team, but it's not the end of the world either. They basically released Beck as soon as the knew they had Cousins, which is major plus. My guess, they are putting up with RG3nOut/RGInt for only one more season. Hmmm...could that be the real reason?

Amazing how the when the 'Skins stock pile FA's they are trying to buy a Championship, but when the Iggles do it...that organization is on top of it and building themselves to be a force for years to come. Now, there has to be a faith issue with RG3, go sell crazy elsewhere...we're all stocked up here!

Didn't work for you all, didn't work for them last year, and it wont this year. They have the worst QB situation in our division. Two running QB's, one who will never survive a playoff run and another who is a complete disaster.

RGIII was picked second, he's from the Big 12, and he tends to run a lot(14 Car/game), so there are going to be some question marks until he gets on the field.

IMO, he might be the most polished rookie from a PR standpoint I've ever seen. He is taking the entire weight of this city on his shoulders, but that's a helluva tall order in this town and in this division.

 

[thayman]

Can anyone explain the Cousins pick to me? So many needs, and this seems like a total throwaway of their third pick of the draft. Grossman isn't a starter, we know that. But he's definitely a suitable backup. What was the point of taking a developmental QB that may SOME DAY become an NFL quality QB? Was the QB coach afraid he wasn't going to be busy enough working with the man you traded half your draft for? He was afraid he needed a second QB to develop with all his spare time? This pick just seems like a complete and utter waste for a team that has a lot of holes to fill. I'm surprised to not see a lot more backlash on that pick.

I thought Cousins was a good pick. He was a huge value in the 4th round, and quarterback is the most important position in football. I don't expect him to start for us, but having a backup you can count on in this league is very important. If he shows up well in a couple of games, we could trade him for a 2nd rounder + ala Cassel/Kolb. If management had Cousins at the top of the board and nobody else they liked, then they made the right decision. Having needs doesn't mean you should go away from BPA.

It was a total boned headed pick. Best case situation is that you trade him for a second in two years. If he doesn't play you haven;t even gotten the utility out of the pick to offset the declining time value. The only way he'll show up well is if you put developement time into him. Not real smart taking that time away from RG3 after you mortgaged the future for him.

No the best case situation is that the Redskins get a competant backup, something that is not currently on the roster.

 

[dehaven123]

Can anyone explain the Cousins pick to me? So many needs, and this seems like a total throwaway of their third pick of the draft. Grossman isn't a starter, we know that. But he's definitely a suitable backup. What was the point of taking a developmental QB that may SOME DAY become an NFL quality QB? Was the QB coach afraid he wasn't going to be busy enough working with the man you traded half your draft for? He was afraid he needed a second QB to develop with all his spare time? This pick just seems like a complete and utter waste for a team that has a lot of holes to fill. I'm surprised to not see a lot more backlash on that pick.

I thought Cousins was a good pick. He was a huge value in the 4th round, and quarterback is the most important position in football. I don't expect him to start for us, but having a backup you can count on in this league is very important. If he shows up well in a couple of games, we could trade him for a 2nd rounder + ala Cassel/Kolb. If management had Cousins at the top of the board and nobody else they liked, then they made the right decision. Having needs doesn't mean you should go away from BPA.

It was a total boned headed pick. Best case situation is that you trade him for a second in two years. If he doesn't play you haven;t even gotten the utility out of the pick to offset the declining time value. The only way he'll show up well is if you put developement time into him. Not real smart taking that time away from RG3 after you mortgaged the future for him.

No the best case situation is that the Redskins get a competant backup, something that is not currently on the roster.

I like it.

Indications were cousins was a presence at senior bowl wk pratices. Natural leader, hard worker type.

Why cant he play a role for this team behind RG3? like maybe keep RG3 from being complacent possibly? why he cant he challenge to try to be the 1st QB in and last QB out of the bldg each day? these are all good things, imo.

RG3 is a big boy, he'll handle it like a pro and use it to his advantage.

Cousins was good value in the 4th.

Everyone knows in today's NFL, every team needs 2 startable qb's.

Besides, why not bring 2 QB's along, versus 1?

His skills appear to be contrasting to RG3's, which i think is a good thing too.

Shanny's system at it's worst does develop QB's.

Not sure what's not to like here?

Suspect the contrarians are just hatin'.

 

[Marvelous]

Can anyone explain the Cousins pick to me? So many needs, and this seems like a total throwaway of their third pick of the draft. Grossman isn't a starter, we know that. But he's definitely a suitable backup. What was the point of taking a developmental QB that may SOME DAY become an NFL quality QB? Was the QB coach afraid he wasn't going to be busy enough working with the man you traded half your draft for? He was afraid he needed a second QB to develop with all his spare time? This pick just seems like a complete and utter waste for a team that has a lot of holes to fill. I'm surprised to not see a lot more backlash on that pick.

I thought Cousins was a good pick. He was a huge value in the 4th round, and quarterback is the most important position in football. I don't expect him to start for us, but having a backup you can count on in this league is very important. If he shows up well in a couple of games, we could trade him for a 2nd rounder + ala Cassel/Kolb. If management had Cousins at the top of the board and nobody else they liked, then they made the right decision. Having needs doesn't mean you should go away from BPA.

It was a total boned headed pick. Best case situation is that you trade him for a second in two years. If he doesn't play you haven;t even gotten the utility out of the pick to offset the declining time value. The only way he'll show up well is if you put developement time into him. Not real smart taking that time away from RG3 after you mortgaged the future for him.

No the best case situation is that the Redskins get a competant backup, something that is not currently on the roster.

I like it.

Indications were cousins was a presence at senior bowl wk pratices. Natural leader, hard worker type.

Why cant he play a role for this team behind RG3? like maybe keep RG3 from being complacent possibly? why he cant he challenge to try to be the 1st QB in and last QB out of the bldg each day? these are all good things, imo.

RG3 is a big boy, he'll handle it like a pro and use it to his advantage.

Cousins was good value in the 4th.

Everyone knows in today's NFL, every team needs 2 startable qb's.

Besides, why not bring 2 QB's along, versus 1?

His skills appear to be contrasting to RG3's, which i think is a good thing too.

Shanny's system at it's worst does develop QB's.

Not sure what's not to like here?

Suspect the contrarians are just hatin'.

I said early on that the Redskins needed two new QBs this offseason and thought drafting two would be fine. If Shanahan believes in Cousins and he is a good value pick at the top of round 4, it would have been stupid not to draft him.Most of the reports I could find have Cousins as the 5th QB in the draft and an early 2nd to 3rd round pick.

Also, in a QB driven league, it's hard to claim that the Redskins are suddenly too deep at the position.

 

[Marvelous]

I don't know how accurate this is, but from sbnation.com, here is a list of UFA the Redskins have signed:

Kevin Bolden, WR, Southern Miss

Lennon Creer, RB, Louisiana Tech

Dwayne Frampton, WR, Arkansas State

Grant Garner, C, Oklahoma State

Darius Hanks, WR, Alabama

Lance Lewis, WR, East Carolina

Monte Lewis, DE, Jacksonville State

Kerby Long, WR, James Madison

Vaughn Meatoga, DT, Hawaii

Brian McNally, DE, New Hampshire

Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia

Josh Oglesby, OT, Wisconsin

Michael Shaw, RB, Michigan

Eain Smith, S, WVU

Here is the link.

 

[Marvelous]

And from bleacherreport.com:

Chase Minnifield, Cornerback, Signed with Washington RedskinsThe Redskins should be charged with first-degree theft after landing Minnifield as an undrafted free agent. They had a suspect secondary last year, and Minnifield has a good chance to earn a starting spot on their roster as long as his knee holds up.Minnifield was considered to be one of the top prospects at the cornerback position before the 2011 season. He struggled to perform up to the high standard he had previously set and then had minor knee surgery following the season.He then looked bad at his pro day and ran a 4.6-second 40-yard dash, dropping from a second-round grade all the way out of the draft.He has time to fully heal now from his knee surgery, and I expect him to become a solid starter for the Redskins either this year or next.

I saw Minnifield was a low 1st rounder in some early mock drafts. Being from UVa, I was hoping the Redskins would draft him at some point.

 

[BassNBrew]

1. Your team is terrible.

You guys have to forgive BassNBrew. He's a Panthers fan, and they suck, and he's feeling better if he can point out a shorter midget. Plus he's probably ticked that Tebow got more press than Newton last year, and that this year Luck and/or Griffin may get more. Hopefully there aren't any Skins fans immature enough to go over to the Colts and Browns and Vikings threads telling them their teams suck.

Seriously people, are you going to argue this fact? If your team was drafting in the top half of the draft, especially the top ten, your team wasn;pt very good. This includes the Panthers, Rams, Jags, etc. Heck, even most Cowboy fans would admit they weren't very good last year.

 

[BassNBrew]

For those that don't like the Cousins pick, they must not buy into the BPA draft philosophy. Otherwise, what's not to like at the pick? We're talking about the 4th round here, so more than likely you're not getting a starter for 2012 unless you're incredibly lucky or your team is terrible. So basically that means you're drafting for depth. What's wrong with drafting for depth at QB? You guys really want us to be one hit away from Grossman for the foreseeable future? I don't. Let's face it. The Skins aren't super bowl contenders for 2012, so why do you expect them to fill EVERY need in this draft? You really think there was a starting safety sitting there and they passed on him? Please. They're trying to build a team here and unfortunately that takes time.

1. Your team is terrible.2. In lieu of number one, there were starters available out there.The only way this pick makes sense is if you don't have faith in RG3.

1. I'm sure you really know the Skins roster well. 2. What does faith have to do with it? Why have a backup QB at all if you have "faith" in your starter? Maybe they don't have faith in Rex Grossman. Y'know, sometimes these guys get hurt.

I can't believe there is even a debate around the Cousins pick. Having a solid backup QB is essential. Look at what happened to the Colts when Manning went down. Obviously the Redskins don't see Grossman as having an extensive shelf life as a backup and want to groom a new backup. That makes total sense, honestly. Redskins fans routinely talk of getting depth at Offensive Line and Secondary, and QB is even more crucial. I would kind of question the football smarts of any who doesn't understand why they would take Cousins..

While you're questioning the football smarts, I heard today that picking two QBs this early hasn't happened since the 50s. Maybe the Skins are onto something here, but I don't see it.

 

[BassNBrew]

Everyone knows in today's NFL, every team needs 2 startable qb's.

When was the last time 2 QBs were a key component in a Super Bowl title?

 

[BassNBrew]

Best case and most likely in my opinion is that RG3 is a huge hit and Cousins never sniffs the field. If Cousins does see significant playing time, I don't think that will be a good sign for the Skins.

 

[ExaltedOne]

And from bleacherreport.com:

Chase Minnifield, Cornerback, Signed with Washington RedskinsThe Redskins should be charged with first-degree theft after landing Minnifield as an undrafted free agent. They had a suspect secondary last year, and Minnifield has a good chance to earn a starting spot on their roster as long as his knee holds up.Minnifield was considered to be one of the top prospects at the cornerback position before the 2011 season. He struggled to perform up to the high standard he had previously set and then had minor knee surgery following the season.He then looked bad at his pro day and ran a 4.6-second 40-yard dash, dropping from a second-round grade all the way out of the draft.He has time to fully heal now from his knee surgery, and I expect him to become a solid starter for the Redskins either this year or next.

I saw Minnifield was a low 1st rounder in some early mock drafts. Being from UVa, I was hoping the Redskins would draft him at some point.

Awesome. Coming out of this draft with RG3, Cousins, Minnifield, and lots of offensive line depth makes me a happy camper.

 

[RGIII HTTR]

Granted it's not in the same year, but why are teams like NE, PHI, GB and such given great credit when they take a QB because you just can't pass up the value and with 'Skins is got to be something else?

NE takes Mallet, PHI took Kolb (2nd rnder at that) when McNabb was there, GB takes Rogers and then Flynn and Brohm.

Hey, I was not crazy about it because I know the holes on the team, but it's not the end of the world either. They basically released Beck as soon as the knew they had Cousins, which is major plus. My guess, they are putting up with RG3nOut/RGInt for only one more season. Hmmm...could that be the real reason?

Amazing how the when the 'Skins stock pile FA's they are trying to buy a Championship, but when the Iggles do it...that organization is on top of it and building themselves to be a force for years to come. Now, there has to be a faith issue with RG3, go sell crazy elsewhere...we're all stocked up here!

Didn't work for you all, didn't work for them last year, and it wont this year. They have the worst QB situation in our division. Two running QB's, one who will never survive a playoff run and another who is a complete disaster.

RGIII was picked second, he's from the Big 12, and he tends to run a lot(14 Car/game), so there are going to be some question marks until he gets on the field.

IMO, he might be the most polished rookie from a PR standpoint I've ever seen. He is taking the entire weight of this city on his shoulders, but that's a helluva tall order in this town and in this division.

My point is the media and everyone's perception. Of course it didn't work, but last year's love feast for the the Iggles FA moves was over the top, where the 'Skins are always blasted for trying to buy wins. Same as the Cousins pick, nobody screamed how the Pats wasted a mid round pick on Mallet, it was all about too much value to pass up and oh boy these Pats are smart. Just pointing out the double standards...To your point, nothing is full proof and that gets proven in so many ways every year. Taking the the top player is a gamble regardless and there are always a question or two. I will say that the less questions to start the better and RGIII appears to far less of them. Now we'll see what the pieces around him can do to help guide the team in the direction of becoming a true competitive team that can challenge anyone on any given Sunday. It's been awhile since we've been able to do that on a regular basis.

 

[BassNBrew]

While I'm here, any thoughts on Moss and Cooley?

 

[Marvelous]

For those that don't like the Cousins pick, they must not buy into the BPA draft philosophy. Otherwise, what's not to like at the pick? We're talking about the 4th round here, so more than likely you're not getting a starter for 2012 unless you're incredibly lucky or your team is terrible. So basically that means you're drafting for depth. What's wrong with drafting for depth at QB? You guys really want us to be one hit away from Grossman for the foreseeable future? I don't. Let's face it. The Skins aren't super bowl contenders for 2012, so why do you expect them to fill EVERY need in this draft? You really think there was a starting safety sitting there and they passed on him? Please. They're trying to build a team here and unfortunately that takes time.

1. Your team is terrible.2. In lieu of number one, there were starters available out there.The only way this pick makes sense is if you don't have faith in RG3.

1. I'm sure you really know the Skins roster well. 2. What does faith have to do with it? Why have a backup QB at all if you have "faith" in your starter? Maybe they don't have faith in Rex Grossman. Y'know, sometimes these guys get hurt.

I can't believe there is even a debate around the Cousins pick. Having a solid backup QB is essential. Look at what happened to the Colts when Manning went down. Obviously the Redskins don't see Grossman as having an extensive shelf life as a backup and want to groom a new backup. That makes total sense, honestly. Redskins fans routinely talk of getting depth at Offensive Line and Secondary, and QB is even more crucial. I would kind of question the football smarts of any who doesn't understand why they would take Cousins..

While you're questioning the football smarts, I heard today that picking two QBs this early hasn't happened since the 50s. Maybe the Skins are onto something here, but I don't see it.

It is not quite as high, but in the 1982 draft, the Baltimore Colts took Art Schlichter with the 4th pick of the first round and then took Mike Pagel with the 1st pick of the fourth round.Hopefully RGIII works out better than Art Schlicter.

 

[RGIII HTTR]

And from bleacherreport.com:

Chase Minnifield, Cornerback, Signed with Washington RedskinsThe Redskins should be charged with first-degree theft after landing Minnifield as an undrafted free agent. They had a suspect secondary last year, and Minnifield has a good chance to earn a starting spot on their roster as long as his knee holds up.Minnifield was considered to be one of the top prospects at the cornerback position before the 2011 season. He struggled to perform up to the high standard he had previously set and then had minor knee surgery following the season.He then looked bad at his pro day and ran a 4.6-second 40-yard dash, dropping from a second-round grade all the way out of the draft.He has time to fully heal now from his knee surgery, and I expect him to become a solid starter for the Redskins either this year or next.

I saw Minnifield was a low 1st rounder in some early mock drafts. Being from UVa, I was hoping the Redskins would draft him at some point.

It was unfortunate that he was hurt and it made his draft stock drop, but that is clearly going to be our gain. Can't be the steal of the draft if he was a UDFA, but he just might be...

 

[BassNBrew]

Granted it's not in the same year, but why are teams like NE, PHI, GB and such given great credit when they take a QB because you just can't pass up the value and with 'Skins is got to be something else?

NE takes Mallet, PHI took Kolb (2nd rnder at that) when McNabb was there, GB takes Rogers and then Flynn and Brohm.

Hey, I was not crazy about it because I know the holes on the team, but it's not the end of the world either. They basically released Beck as soon as the knew they had Cousins, which is major plus. My guess, they are putting up with RG3nOut/RGInt for only one more season. Hmmm...could that be the real reason?

Amazing how the when the 'Skins stock pile FA's they are trying to buy a Championship, but when the Iggles do it...that organization is on top of it and building themselves to be a force for years to come. Now, there has to be a faith issue with RG3, go sell crazy elsewhere...we're all stocked up here!

Didn't work for you all, didn't work for them last year, and it wont this year. They have the worst QB situation in our division. Two running QB's, one who will never survive a playoff run and another who is a complete disaster.

RGIII was picked second, he's from the Big 12, and he tends to run a lot(14 Car/game), so there are going to be some question marks until he gets on the field.

IMO, he might be the most polished rookie from a PR standpoint I've ever seen. He is taking the entire weight of this city on his shoulders, but that's a helluva tall order in this town and in this division.

My point is the media and everyone's perception. Of course it didn't work, but last year's love feast for the the Iggles FA moves was over the top, where the 'Skins are always blasted for trying to buy wins. Same as the Cousins pick, nobody screamed how the Pats wasted a mid round pick on Mallet, it was all about too much value to pass up and oh boy these Pats are smart. Just pointing out the double standards...To your point, nothing is full proof and that gets proven in so many ways every year. Taking the the top player is a gamble regardless and there are always a question or two. I will say that the less questions to start the better and RGIII appears to far less of them. Now we'll see what the pieces around him can do to help guide the team in the direction of becoming a true competitive team that can challenge anyone on any given Sunday. It's been awhile since we've been able to do that on a regular basis.

I think the reason people weren't screaming about the Mallet pick was that New England has consistantly been putting up big win numbers. I would have to assume that it would be harder to make the roster in NE than Wash at this point in time. Furthermore, NE has stockpiled picks while Wash had to give up picks to secure RG3. IMO picks are a little more valuable to Washington at the moment then NE.

 

[BassNBrew]

It is not quite as high, but in the 1982 draft, the Baltimore Colts took Art Schlichter with the 4th pick of the first round and then took Mike Pagel with the 1st pick of the fourth round.Hopefully RGIII works out better than Art Schlicter.

I think it already worked out better when about 5 to 6 minutes after RG3 was in town.

 

[thayman]

Best case and most likely in my opinion is that RG3 is a huge hit and Cousins never sniffs the field. If Cousins does see significant playing time, I don't think that will be a good sign for the Skins.

You could interchange the name Cousins with the QBs that were out there all last year.Marvelous was saying it during last year's season thread that we would be getting two QBs this offseason. If their plan was to go BPA then it was a fine pick.

 

[Hang 10]

Best case and most likely in my opinion is that RG3 is a huge hit and Cousins never sniffs the field. If Cousins does see significant playing time, I don't think that will be a good sign for the Skins.

What the hell does the best case scenario have to do with anything? In the NFL, it's probably safer to assume the worst case. I can see your logic in the bears front office. No we can't afford to draft a decent backup for Culter because we gave up too many draft picks to get him. Brilliant!

 

[Sylira21]

While I'm here, any thoughts on Moss and Cooley?

Moss' play declined quite noticably last year. If the UDFA list above is correct, there will be a SWARM of bodies here over the summer at the WR position.Hard to see how it will shake out. If you want to play a lottery ticket for the Skins primary receiver, Hankerson or maybe Armstrong might be a better bet than Moss, someone who dropped a lot of passe and couldn't stay healthy last year.I think Cooley's place depends entirely on health. If he can show he's 100% there will be a place for him. And if Davis continues to show he's got s--- for brains, Cooley could be gold.

 

[Sebowski]

I've turned around on the Cousins pick. I like it. Anyone picked there would be battling to be a backup. It is harder to get depth and a solid backup at QB then any other position. I'm much happier with Cousins then bringing in someone like Lienart or.... Who else is out there to compete with Grossman with year and take over at QB2 next year? Everything I see from Cousins tells me he will easily be a better backup than Grossman by next offseason or sooner. Cousins was a 3-time captain. The guy can lead, he can throw, he's smart, and he is pretty mobile. I'll take him on my team.



His Gruden Camp

 

[MikeApf]

For those that don't like the Cousins pick, they must not buy into the BPA draft philosophy. Otherwise, what's not to like at the pick? We're talking about the 4th round here, so more than likely you're not getting a starter for 2012 unless you're incredibly lucky or your team is terrible. So basically that means you're drafting for depth. What's wrong with drafting for depth at QB? You guys really want us to be one hit away from Grossman for the foreseeable future? I don't. Let's face it. The Skins aren't super bowl contenders for 2012, so why do you expect them to fill EVERY need in this draft? You really think there was a starting safety sitting there and they passed on him? Please. They're trying to build a team here and unfortunately that takes time.

1. Your team is terrible.2. In lieu of number one, there were starters available out there.The only way this pick makes sense is if you don't have faith in RG3.

1. I'm sure you really know the Skins roster well. 2. What does faith have to do with it? Why have a backup QB at all if you have "faith" in your starter? Maybe they don't have faith in Rex Grossman. Y'know, sometimes these guys get hurt.

I can't believe there is even a debate around the Cousins pick. Having a solid backup QB is essential. Look at what happened to the Colts when Manning went down. Obviously the Redskins don't see Grossman as having an extensive shelf life as a backup and want to groom a new backup. That makes total sense, honestly. Redskins fans routinely talk of getting depth at Offensive Line and Secondary, and QB is even more crucial. I would kind of question the football smarts of any who doesn't understand why they would take Cousins..

While you're questioning the football smarts, I heard today that picking two QBs this early hasn't happened since the 50s. Maybe the Skins are onto something here, but I don't see it.

I'm not going to argue "historical facts." I doubt many teams go back and check the "NFL Atlas" before making their picks. There is simply several obvious points you are missing:1. OBVIOUS POINT 1 Redskins are starting from ground up in the QB position. They will probably keep Rex this year but honestly with all the picks he throws, they need to move on from him as a backup. And Beck stinks. For this reason, they need to start grooming TWO QBs -- the future starter and the future backup (I think Rex is this year's backup).2. OBVIOUS POINT 2 In the NFL, with all the injuries, backup players are VERY important. You don't build your roster by saying, "Well, I have a rookie superstar, so I'll just fill in crap for backup behind him." Shannahan has talked extensively about the need for depth at every position, and it's a real need because the Redskins have had lots of injuries the past couple of years.X hasn't done Y since 19XX honestly means nothing to me. If you want to argue that it was a bad move based on the facts of it, that's cool. I've laid out my opinions and you can lay out yours. But the fact that something hasn't been done in a while doesn't proove anything really.

 

[crispus attucks]

For those that don't like the Cousins pick, they must not buy into the BPA draft philosophy. Otherwise, what's not to like at the pick? We're talking about the 4th round here, so more than likely you're not getting a starter for 2012 unless you're incredibly lucky or your team is terrible. So basically that means you're drafting for depth. What's wrong with drafting for depth at QB? You guys really want us to be one hit away from Grossman for the foreseeable future? I don't. Let's face it. The Skins aren't super bowl contenders for 2012, so why do you expect them to fill EVERY need in this draft? You really think there was a starting safety sitting there and they passed on him? Please. They're trying to build a team here and unfortunately that takes time.

1. Your team is terrible.2. In lieu of number one, there were starters available out there.The only way this pick makes sense is if you don't have faith in RG3.

1. I'm sure you really know the Skins roster well. 2. What does faith have to do with it? Why have a backup QB at all if you have "faith" in your starter? Maybe they don't have faith in Rex Grossman. Y'know, sometimes these guys get hurt.

I can't believe there is even a debate around the Cousins pick. Having a solid backup QB is essential. Look at what happened to the Colts when Manning went down. Obviously the Redskins don't see Grossman as having an extensive shelf life as a backup and want to groom a new backup. That makes total sense, honestly. Redskins fans routinely talk of getting depth at Offensive Line and Secondary, and QB is even more crucial. I would kind of question the football smarts of any who doesn't understand why they would take Cousins..

While you're questioning the football smarts, I heard today that picking two QBs this early hasn't happened since the 50s. Maybe the Skins are onto something here, but I don't see it.

It is not quite as high, but in the 1982 draft, the Baltimore Colts took Art Schlichter with the 4th pick of the first round and then took Mike Pagel with the 1st pick of the fourth round.Hopefully RGIII works out better than Art Schlicter.

1989 Cowgirls take Aikman #1 then Steve Walsh with the first overall pick in the supplemental draft. He started 11 games in 1990 for Dallas, going 6-5. Since RGIII is a greater injury risk due to his running, it makes sense to back him up adequately. To criticize that shows an ignorance to today's game. Not many QB's make it thru an entire 16-game schedule injury-free. Only Eli did it last year in the NFC East.

 

[Marvelous]

For those that don't like the Cousins pick, they must not buy into the BPA draft philosophy. Otherwise, what's not to like at the pick? We're talking about the 4th round here, so more than likely you're not getting a starter for 2012 unless you're incredibly lucky or your team is terrible. So basically that means you're drafting for depth. What's wrong with drafting for depth at QB? You guys really want us to be one hit away from Grossman for the foreseeable future? I don't. Let's face it. The Skins aren't super bowl contenders for 2012, so why do you expect them to fill EVERY need in this draft? You really think there was a starting safety sitting there and they passed on him? Please. They're trying to build a team here and unfortunately that takes time.

1. Your team is terrible.2. In lieu of number one, there were starters available out there.The only way this pick makes sense is if you don't have faith in RG3.

1. I'm sure you really know the Skins roster well. 2. What does faith have to do with it? Why have a backup QB at all if you have "faith" in your starter? Maybe they don't have faith in Rex Grossman. Y'know, sometimes these guys get hurt.

I can't believe there is even a debate around the Cousins pick. Having a solid backup QB is essential. Look at what happened to the Colts when Manning went down. Obviously the Redskins don't see Grossman as having an extensive shelf life as a backup and want to groom a new backup. That makes total sense, honestly. Redskins fans routinely talk of getting depth at Offensive Line and Secondary, and QB is even more crucial. I would kind of question the football smarts of any who doesn't understand why they would take Cousins..

While you're questioning the football smarts, I heard today that picking two QBs this early hasn't happened since the 50s. Maybe the Skins are onto something here, but I don't see it.

It is not quite as high, but in the 1982 draft, the Baltimore Colts took Art Schlichter with the 4th pick of the first round and then took Mike Pagel with the 1st pick of the fourth round.Hopefully RGIII works out better than Art Schlicter.

1989 Cowgirls take Aikman #1 then Steve Walsh with the first overall pick in the supplemental draft. He started 11 games in 1990 for Dallas, going 6-5. Since RGIII is a greater injury risk due to his running, it makes sense to back him up adequately. To criticize that shows an ignorance to today's game. Not many QB's make it thru an entire 16-game schedule injury-free. Only Eli did it last year in the NFC East.

The supplemental pick for Steve Walsh cost the Cowboys their first round pick of the 1990 draft. Since they had the worse record in football, it would have been the top pick in the draft. So the Cowboys actually spent the first pick of the draft in consecutive years on QBs.