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What happened to you guys?
FTR, if he transitions well, y'all are gonna love Urschel...
FTR, if he transitions well, y'all are gonna love Urschel...
Be interesting to finally find out how much use we'll have of Ray Rice this year. Looking good in camp supposedly.Where are the holes? Backup QB, RB?, TE, unknown O-line piece, CB, "rangy" FS
QB:Joe Flaccohttp://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/player-all-info.php?id=FlacJo00, Tyrod Taylorhttp://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/player-all-info.php?id=TaylTy00, Keith Wenning, Nick Stephens
RB:Ray Ricehttp://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/player-all-info.php?id=RiceRa00, Bernard Pierce, Justin Forsett, Lorenzo Taliaferro, Cierre Wood, Fitzgerald Toussaint
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
WR:Torrey Smithhttp://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/player-all-info.php?id=SmitTo02, Steve Smith Sr., Marlon Brown, Jacoby Jones (KR/PR), Deonte Thompson, LaQuan Williams, Jeremy Butler, Michael Campanaro, Kamar Aiken
TE:Dennis Pittahttp://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/player-all-info.php?id=PittDe00, Owen Daniels, Crockett Gillmore, Nathan Overbay
LT:Eugene Monroe, James Hurst
LG:Kelechi Osemele, Jah Reid
C:Jeremy Zuttah Gino Gradkowski, AQ Shipley, Reggie Stephens
RG:Marshal Yanda, John Urschel
RT: Ricky Wagner, Ryan Jensen, David Mims
K:Justin Tuckerhttp://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/player-all-info.php?id=TuckJu44
P: Sam Koch
LS: Morgan Cox
DT:Haloti Ngata (NT)http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/player-all-info.php?id=NgatHa99, Terrance Cody (NT), Derrick Hopkins (NT), Brandon Williamshttp://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/player-all-info.php?id=WillBr94, Timmy Jernigan
DE:Chris Canty, DeAngelo Tyson, Kapron Lewis-Moore, Brent Urban
ILB:CJ Mosley, Daryl Smith (M), Arthur Brown, Josh Bynes (W), , Albert McClellan, Zack Orr
OLB:Terrell Suggshttp://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/player-all-info.php?id=SuggTe99, Elvis Dumervil (S), Courtney Upshaw, Pernell McPhee, John Simon, DJ Roberts
CB:Lardarius Webb, Jimmy Smithhttp://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/player-all-info.php?id=SmitJi99, Chykie Brown, Asa Jackson, Aaron Ross, Dominique Franks
S: Matt Elam (SS)http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/player-all-info.php?id=ElamMa99, Darian Stewart (FS), Anthony Levine (SS), Terrance Brooks (FS), Jeromy Miles, Omar Brown, Brynden Trawick (FS),
I like this prediction but its hard not seeing them losing a very winnable game (like bills last year). I could see us dropping one to Ten or TB just because we seem allergic to home field advanageSplit with Bengals and Steelers, 2 W's vs. Browns
W's - Panthers, Bucs, Falcons, Titans, Dolphins, Jags, Texans
L's - Colts, Saints, Chargers,
Agree with you, 11-5 looks likely. Worst case scenario is probably 9-7 unless CB depth is exposed with further injury early on or o-line falls apart. Hard to envision wins at Colts or NO, two tough, tough venues.
I know huh? I'm not sure what I enjoyed more, the epic meltdown in the Steelers thread or Big Ben's admitting it was the hardest he's been hit since that Scott hit.Just saw the play Upshaw got flagged on. Sweet baby jeebus, what else can he do?
It reminded me of the shot Bart Scott laid on Big Ben when Ben was a rookie.
It's got to be Ozzie. He attended the meeting with Rice and Goodell and has steadfastly maintained Rice never lied to Goodell. This link indicates to me that Ozzie filled in Bisciotti about what transpired which is why the Ravens stood behind Rice for as long as they did. I'll bet Bisciotti never knew about the full tape and is likely pissed at what he saw as opposed to what he was told happened by Ozzie. I am speculating like crazy but it makes unfortunate sense to me.Don't know the exact story, but lots and lots of innuendo in the Baltimore sports media that the Ravens/Ray Rice saga is about to get even way worse. I think that can only mean Ozzie or Harbaugh or someone saw the tape and still supported bringing Ray back. I have enjoyed this season for exactly 3 hours so far - from kickoff to the final gun of the Steelers game.
Maybe he beat Dwyer's kid too?Don't know the exact story, but lots and lots of innuendo in the Baltimore sports media that the Ravens/Ray Rice saga is about to get even way worse.
Sigh. Sad to say that Ozzie is a big piece of the story.It's got to be Ozzie. He attended the meeting with Rice and Goodell and has steadfastly maintained Rice never lied to Goodell. This link indicates to me that Ozzie filled in Bisciotti about what transpired which is why the Ravens stood behind Rice for as long as they did. I'll bet Bisciotti never knew about the full tape and is likely pissed at what he saw as opposed to what he was told happened by Ozzie. I am speculating like crazy but it makes unfortunate sense to me.Don't know the exact story, but lots and lots of innuendo in the Baltimore sports media that the Ravens/Ray Rice saga is about to get even way worse. I think that can only mean Ozzie or Harbaugh or someone saw the tape and still supported bringing Ray back. I have enjoyed this season for exactly 3 hours so far - from kickoff to the final gun of the Steelers game.
Harbaugh looks to be the most consistent and sane one of the story.... After the Feb. 15 incident in the casino elevator, Ravens executives -- in particular owner Steve Bisciotti, president **** Cass and general manager Ozzie Newsome -- began extensive public and private campaigns pushing for leniency for Rice on several fronts:
... The Ravens' head of security, Sanders, heard a detailed description of the inside-elevator scene within hours and shared it with Ravens officials in Baltimore.
Goodell has been steadfast that no one in the NFL had seen the inside-elevator video until Sept. 8, the same day the public did ...
... But within hours of the elevator attack, an employee of the Ravens was describing the inside-elevator video to friends in graphic detail, telling confidants that Rice knocked out his then-fiancée with a punch and that the video was "really bad,"
... The Super Bowl-winning coach urged his bosses to release Rice immediately, especially if the team had evidence Rice had thrown a punch. That opinion was shared by George Kokinis, the Baltimore director of player personnel, according to a fifth source outside the organization but familiar with the team's thinking.
But Harbaugh's recommendation to cut the six-year veteran running back was quickly rejected by Ravens management: owner Bisciotti, team president Cass and GM Newsome.
... The running back told his friend much of what we now know: Rice struck Janay in the face with his left fist and sent her careening into the elevator wall, where she struck her head and was knocked out instantly. "He motioned it to me," Jakobe said, making a closed fist and bringing it across his body. "He was like 'Hey, this is what happened.'"
Rice also leveled with his general manager, Newsome,
... after Ravens offensive lineman Jah Reid was arrested March 8 in Key West, Florida, and charged with two counts of battery for his role in a bar fight, Harbaugh, according to several sources, again went to Newsome and advocated that the three Ravens players arrested in the offseason -- Rice, Reid and wide receiver Deonte Thompson -- be released. Newsome, according to what Rice was told, bristled at the recommendation, saying he was the decision-maker in the matter, not Harbaugh, and he believed in second chances. Newsome believed if the team had weathered the controversy in 2000 when All-Pro linebacker Ray Lewis was charged in a double homicide after a Super Bowl party in Atlanta, and had endured the criticism after running back Jamal Lewis' guilty plea to cocaine trafficking in 2004, it could certainly weather the controversy surrounding this trio of arrests, too. The Ravens on Friday denied this: "John Harbaugh did not want to release Ray Rice until he saw the second video on September 8 for the first time. The video changed everything for all of us," the team said.
"Ozzie has always looked out for Ray," said John Minadakis, one of Rice's closest friends, "and Ray has always looked up to Ozzie as a father figure. He didn't want to see Ray crucified for this."
... Bisciotti, Newsome and Cass granted a lengthy interview to The Sun, explaining why the second video "changed everything" and led to Rice's immediate release. But when asked by the Sun whether the video matched what Rice had told them months earlier, Newsome conceded that it had. "You know, Ray had given a story to John [Harbaugh] and I," Newsome said. "And what we saw on the video was what Ray said. Ray didn't lie to me. He didn't lie to me."
Cass quickly followed up with a comment that seemed to contradict what Newsome had just said. "There's a big difference between reading a report that says he knocked her unconscious or being told that someone had slapped someone and that she had hit her head," Cass said. "That is one version of the facts. That's what we understood to be the case. When you see the video, it just looks very different than what we understood the facts to be."
Newsome's answer did not go unnoticed by Rice, friends of the running back say. Rice told Jakobe and Minadakis that Newsome is the only member of the Ravens organization he is willing to have any association with in the future. Ozzie Newsome is the only one, Rice believes, willing to tell the truth.
I think it's always been hypocritical. It's just that it used to be easier to turn a blind eye to things like this. I made my peace with my hypocrisy in rooting for sports teams long ago - mainly because I selfishly want to continue to enjoy watching sports and don't have the balls to take a real stand at the expense of that enjoyment.Yeah, this really, really sucks. Going to to Bstay t'more for my dad's 75th birthday, and honestly, don't want to stay to watch the team on Sunday. It's just gotten that bad. To watch and root almost seems hypocritical after today's news.
I doubt Harbaugh would do that.If the OTL report is accurate, Harbaugh's best move is probably to resign. Hold a press conference, tell people you advocated to release Rice from the beginning. Walk away. Wash your hands of this mess.
Next year Harbaugh will get picked up by another team.
Assuming the reports are 100% accurate of course.
This is a very good summary. Plus it seems like Kubiak's offense seems to suit Flacco and Kubiak is able to make adjustments during the game to exploit what's working or to go a different direction if necessary. I think the D will improve as the season goes on since most of the secondary is young. At least that's what I tell myself...Kubiak's offense and the O Line will dictate how this season turns out. The defense is deeply mediocre, though Jimmy Smith is playing some inspired football right now. I think Luck will slice and dice them next week.
But the Ravens looks like they can score with most anybody. I feel like the most overlooked thing in all of football is pass protection. During Flacco's 2012 post-season, nobody laid a finger on him and he shredded defenses. The same was true yesterday. Meanwhile Matt Ryan was getting pressure on every dropback yesterday and he looked terrible. Remember how mediocre Brady looked in the first Giants Super Bowl when he was constantly being harassed by a four-man rush?
Right now, the Ravens are protecting very well. The interior of the O line is excellent, and they can give the young Tackles enough help with TEs and RBs.
I saw Flacco sitting with Kubiak earlier in the year and I agree I've never seen Joe looking at pics before. I wonder if Joe has a new ceiling with Kubiak. Maybe he'll almost be worth his contract.Did you see Kubiak sitting with Flacco on the sideline, and laughing together as they were looking over photos of formations? I'm not exaggerating when I say that I have NEVER once seen Flacco interact with an offensive coordinator that way before. Also loved his emotion after that TD strike to Torry Smith.
Agreed. I just don't know why they are putting him in position to fail. He's the definition of "in the box" safety. He is a younger Bernard Pollard. I don't understand why Brooks isn't even active. Surely he's a better cover safety. You play your best players but if he starts to get eaten up, you have to swap him out.Man, Matt Elam can NOT cover one-on-one. He looks lost. Cotchery ate him alive.
Brooks was active yesterday for first time all year, playing half the snaps (35/69). Stewart lost 11 snaps, after only losing 2 the entire first 3 games. Hopefully he will get more coverage snaps, and they move Elam back up to his natural position.Agreed. I just don't know why they are putting him in position to fail. He's the definition of "in the box" safety. He is a younger Bernard Pollard. I don't understand why Brooks isn't even active. Surely he's a better cover safety. You play your best players but if he starts to get eaten up, you have to swap him out.Man, Matt Elam can NOT cover one-on-one. He looks lost. Cotchery ate him alive.